Overeem vs. Werdum will determine the #1 MMA Heavyweight in the World

I don't agree with this article at all. Cain is 1#HW no doubt. And what the hell?

"as the June bout between Brock Lesnar and Junior dos Santos does very little to the Heavyweight landscape"

Thats not true at all. If JDS wins that fight he is easily 2#HW.

Also lesnar and carwin are on the mix so i would not be placing werdum or overeem to 1#HW spot just yet.

I dont think neither will be #1 but def Top 3. Cain is still #1 for me, the kid is so well rounded and is a problem for any1. How can Overeem be #1 wen the last few times hes fought in MMA he beat rogers and buenetllo? and werdum has lost to arlovski and JDS

I agree Overeem has did some great stuff this past year puts him

in the top 10 but hasnt had any challenges that any of the UFC top 10

the talent you have to fight to be No 1 in the UFC is unmatched would

be great if the UFC let there fighters fight in a tournamant or held

a tournament....

Lesnar was their baddest man on the planet yet is nowhere near the #1 HW. Cain is a great fighter no doubt and some talent exists in the UFC HW divison, but Overeems stand up has improved massively along with his strength and conditioning and fedor is fedor. Cain has never faced anyone on their level so you can't say he is #1 just for beating Lesnar.

And I know Fedor was and still hopefully the best. But look who he's fought in the last 3 years. Then look at who Werdums fought. Then Alistair and I'm talking MMA. I don't see at all that Alistair is up at the top. Alistair is cool but at once he had Frank Mir hair which just bugs me.

I dont think Overeem vs Werdum will crown the best HW in the world but I would consider the winner of the tourney number one HW in the world

i dont agree that werdum is top 3...i also dont agree that reem werdum will determine the top HW cos if werdum wins then i still dont consider him the best HW...id barely consider him top 3 if he did win

"In terms of achievements, Werdum and Overeem are currently two of the Top 3 Heavyweights in the World"



werdum i agree with.



Overeem is top 3, based on ACHIEVEMENT?! are you ****ing kidding me? he's an amazing fighter that could kick the shit through just about every hw out there, but he has achieved nothing at hw in mma to justify him being top 3. based on skills, yes. but i don't know what fantasy world you're living in where a victory over rogers, no matter how badass it was, makes you top 3. and if you mention the duffee fight i will laugh and laugh heartily.

you cannot have a no 1 heavyweight in mma when fighters are in different organizations. Its a simple as that. At this point it purely what people think or who they like cos some of these fighters will never face each other so you can never declare the best by fact

Does Cain hold 3 different titles!?!?!?!? Thank you. Overeem!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah so because overeem beat duffee and got a belt he is better than cain? logical

And because Cain beat lesnar and got a belt he is better?

you were right on Facebook, Haters gonna hate...



People saying stupid stuff like under what achivements should Overeem be consider a top 3 heavyweight, what about winning the K-1, being the Dream and the SF champion, Werdum just beat the most dominant HW in MMA history. Cain is great no doubt but he is out of the picture for a while, Fedor just lost so who else should be consder top 3, Lesnar? Carwin? I will put JDS up there but you could easily make a point about he is not either, Werdum vs Overeem will really determine the #1 HW right now at least until Cain is ready to defend his title...

just because reem got a title for beating todd duffee doesn't make it a great achievement. if mike russow had beat duffee for the dream hw title would he become top 3 as well?

First of all, Overeem totally kicked Dufee´s ass, Rusow got his ass whopped for almost 3 rounds until he land that punch, so not the same thing, and even without the Dream belt, he won the whole K-1 tournament, and he is the SF champion, get and opinnion for yourself quit listening to Dana

MMA resides outside of the UFC in case you hadn't noticed. How can you say the UFC has the 2 best HW's when they have so few fights between them? I have Cain as top 3 but JDS wouldn't live with either Fedor or Overeem. he may even struggle against Brock and we all know what major flaws he has now.

I think its fairly obvious that the winner of the heavyweight GP vs the winner of Cain vs JDS decides it.

Anton stirring it up here 65 weaks for you and 101 for the article!!



Never seen such a reaction, bet Rampage is glad the motorboat-gate is yesterdays news!!

you must be joking the very fact that werdum is even rated higher than JDS is a joke never mind the fact that overeem has not beating anybody in the top 10 in years let alone a totally 1 dimensional fighter like werdum

JDS has not beat anybody in top 10 either. He beat Werdum back when he started.

I still rank Fedor#1, the fact that he lost to Werdum is irrelevant in his case since he has enough margin to be #1.

2.Cain

3.Overeem

4.Werdum

5.JDS



What really funny is that DW says that Overeem has not beat anybody top 10. The same could be said about Shane Carwin (he beat Mir only in top 10), JDS (Werdum)- Cro Cop, Yvels, Nelson and Gonzaga are not in top 10. Cain beat Big Nog and Brock.

DW and the UFC fans ranking has double standards, they see what they what to see. The UFC top HW fought nobodies, except Cain and Brock. They should fight each other first before making any statements being top 5.

yea but Werdum beat Fedor and Silva?

@conan

you cannon have werdum ranked higher then jds, it just doenst make sence seeing how werdum got ktfoed inside the 1st round.....



as for the ufc heavyweights not fighting any of the top 10? and you think the strikeforce guys have? fedor has fought nobody in the top 10 (except a past his prime silvia) since hes pride day.... overeem has only defended his title once in three years and fought the likes of brett rogers, garry goodridge (who is that), james thompsons etc, none of those guys are top 10 so how do u have overeem #3....



back to werdum, losing to andrei arlovski and jds (two people who he is ranked higher then by your strange rankings).... werdum has beaten mike kyle big foot and fedor since then, only fedor is the worthy opponent there. yes he should be a top 7 heavyweight but not ranked higher then jds



and now onto fedor

for 4 years now, since pride was gone, fedor has gone and fought fighters past their prime. (arlovski, silvia) and was still seen as the top heavyweight in the world by everyone (including me).... and even after a loss to werdum you still have him as #1??? that doesnt make sence... yes fedor is still top 3 but no he is not #1.... you cant possibly leave him as #1 after a loss, it just doesnt make sence



(yes i do expect alot of weaks for this but i feel people should stop hating the ufc fighters just because you dont like dw....)

''JDS has not beat anybody in top 10 either. He beat Werdum''

contradicting yourself almost immediately..

when arlovski fought fedor he was the #2 heavyweight riding a 6 fight win streak. Im not sure about sylvia's ranking but he was in top 5. Dont downplay things because you listen to everything dana white burps out after a gassy dinner.

Silvia, Arlovski and Rogers were ranked in top 10 when Fedor fought them. It is very easy to check when you go to Sherdog archives. That's why this claim that he has not fought anybody since pride days has no grounds. The only claim that Fedor's haters say that those guys were not the UFC fighters.

I don't hate the UFC HW fighters, I like Cain, JDS and Carwin. Cain is probably next Fedor. But I want to be fair toward SF and the UFC fighters. I really want to see them fight Overeem and Fedor, but before they should fight each other and Shane Carwin.

I ranked Werdum higher than JSD because he beat Fedor and it takes him highter than 2-3 points.

"you cannon have werdum ranked higher then jds, it just doenst make sence seeing how werdum got ktfoed inside the 1st round....."



So according to your terrible logic Joaquim Ferreira should be ranked above JDS since he beat JDS in about 1 minute......the same year JDS beat Werum. Just because you beat someone doesn't mean you should be ranked over them, it's about total accomplishments, not 1 fight.

One interesting comparison that nobody has brought up with regard to Andrei Arlovski is that he had the skills and power to TKO Big Country Nelson and JDS was not able to do that in his fight with Big Country. Despite his losses, Andrei Arlovski is no joke.



As for who has fought who... just keep in mind that all of the guys in the SF tourney have, combined, at least 4 times as many MMA fights (experience) as the top 8 HW in the UFC.

rogers was in no way a top 10, all the ufc haters had him a top 10 but in reality he wasnt. yes you can be fair to both ufc and strikeforce guys but u cant overvalue the sf heavyweights. and still jds ktfoing werdum clearly should have him higher then werdum. it doesnt make sence otherwise.... yes you can move him up places but what would also cause fedor to move down, thats the point i have

Not the UFC haters ranked Rogers top 10, Sherdog did.

@steve_jackolantern

arlovski as #2 at that time? are you mad?? if he was he wouldnt have been let go by the ufc.... silvia was ranked higher at that point as well as couture (who was the ufc heavyweight champ)... arlovski was not number 2, not even close



and for me listning to everything dana says?? really do i? he says fedor isnt a top 10, i have fedor number 3.... he says overeem isnt a top 5, i have overeem as a top 5 so dude, get some facts before you accuse me of something like that

It is not fair toward SF fighters. Why Brock is still ranked# 2, he lost also just like Fedor and unlike Fedor he does not have deep resume to have that safe margin. He was ranked#1 because he was the UFC champion, Overeem is SF champion, he should be ranked#2 at least after Cain.

Arlovski was not let go by the UFC, he left of his own accord after his contract ran out after winning 2 or 3 in a row. He then demolished Big Country and Ben Rothwell before getting knocked out by Fedor.

According to Sherdog before fighting Fedor, Arlovski was ranked #3:



1. Fedor

2. Big Nog

3. Arlovski

4.Barnett

5.Silvia

6. Rothwell

7.Overeem

8.JDS

9. Werdum

10.Gonzaga



Silvia was ranked #4 before fighting Fedor.

So in 2008 and 2009 Fedor was fighting top 5. All that talk by DW that Fedor has not fought anybody top 10 since 2005 is just full of crap.

If you had been following MMA for more than 3 minutes you would have known the UFC did everything they could to keep Arlovski. Dana didn't want him to leave, they even kept Arlovski from fighting to ride out his contract, giving him his last fight on the contract at the very last minute. Arlovski had to wait over a year for a fight because of that. Arlovski was #2, that's just fact.

for overeem to be the #1 HW, he would have to win the whole tournament,not only beating werdum. thats ridiculous.

There is no doubt that the winner of this tournament will be ranked really Number 1 the HW rankings. This is a high level tourney with the best HW of the world. Its not just one fight.



Cain beat Lesnar but I'm waiting for him to defend and beat JDS and Carwin to rank him first. If cain gets beat by JDS and JDS y Carwin, where r u gonna rank Cain now?



The winner of this tourney wether its fedor or Overeem or werdum will be number one HW imo.



Maybe the ufc should settle a tourney at the same time as SF lol

I actually believe that if fedor beats silva and than overeem or./ werdumhe should be put back ranked to number one. BUt to answer you question it makes sense, cain is out for 8 months, so that leaves overeem/ werdum.. and yeah the winner should be #1 ranked hw, because overeem is in a 4 winning streak and werdum defeated t he best mma figher, so , an 7orqu3 , you don't know wat ur talking about overeem beat rogers and he is top ten.

if you think rogers is top 10 you my friend have mental issues. given hes top 10 in strikeforce but not in the world, come on dude. i would love to see overeem fight junior, that would be the craziest few minutes the world has ever seen!

I agree, this article seems alot like a persons opinion over fact. Its alot like the posts on here everyday rather an article. just my opinion, I know alot of people dont like mir (not saying hes top 3) but I dont see werdum getting by him, let alone a top 3 spot..I see werdum as a decent 6 spot maybe but definitely not a 3...and jds and brock are very much in the mix....I expect better from you Anton!

The only way to compare the UFC and Strikeforce HW's is using MMA math, which is a bullshit circular game.



All I can say with certainty is that the upcoming tournament will determine the best HW in Strikeforce.



BTW: Strikeforce needs elbows on the ground

us mma needs knees to the head and stomps. **** the elbows. pride rules!

Yeah overall I disagree, but it is anyone's opinion what the rankings are - they vary so much depending on the person and how they value a fighters' skills and wins/losses. Overeem has yet to prove himself in MMA - if you disagree with this than you are ignoring the fact that his last 9 fights have been victories over nobodies. He beat Rogers and...? Buentello? Oh and that Duffee kid. But no, because Overeem is a k-1 champ he should be ranked top 3 in HW in MMA. Give me a break.



I respect Overeem's skills a lot and am a big fan, I watch all his fights, but just because you think he 'might' beat some top guys doesn't mean he has. As of this moment he is not even top 10 in my opinion.



Then there is Werdum. How anyone can rank Werdum top 3 is asinine. He has a win over Fedor, Antonio Silva, and a light heavyweight (Mike Kyle). Before that he was KO by JDS and beat by Arlovski. He has a few more wins but really that sums it up.



I think there are a lot of UFC nut huggers, and there are a lot of UFC nut haters. The haters inflate the rankings of non-UFC fighters in an attempt to bash the UFC and legitimize non-UFC fighters. I am a realist - when someone beats a top guy, they move up the rankings. But just because they could potentially win in a fight doesn't mean that they have won that fight. Lets be realistic.

overeem is not top 3 but he is top 10. his win streak and beating rogers is enough to make him top 10.



now here's where i have major problems. ranking werdum top 3 is insane? cop the **** on man. he not only beat the number one heavyweight but a guy that many considered p4p number one, in just over a minute without throwing a single punch, and that doesn't justify him being top 3? you must be taking crazy pills.

Well if you are going to get technical, he did throw punches, and just because many people thought he was the #1 guy didn't make him the #1 guy in everyone else's eyes. I don't believe that his one win over Fedor leap-frogged him over everyone else that is more deserving in my opinion. People are going to disagree all the time on rankings, they are based on opinions. Potentially a lot of rankings will change throughout this tournament and we will know a lot more than we do now anyway.

Werdum is the only fighter who won against the number 1 HW the best fighter all time.Werdum culd be rank 1 witout argument.Cain beat Lesnar who is f amator in MMA who alwredy lost to Mir and got his ass wooped big time to Carwin.Fedor still never been beaten with punches i stil see him coming back and winning the turnament

I disagree that the winner of Werdum V Overeem is automatically #1 but the guy who makes it through to win this tourni is definitely the most accomplished HW fighter and #1 in the world.

i have to disagree werdum vs allistar cannot be the number 1 hw in the world k-1 isnt mma and shouldnt count for him other than that he hasnt fought anybody that is even a top 20 fighter. werdum could make a strong case after his victory over fedor but his recent loss to another top hw in dos santos throws a cloud over that. however with the cain injured and not likely to fight again for some time and brock and dos santos out for tuf. it only leaves carwin as a active top hw in the ufc who could improve his rank. so i think that the winner of the strikeforce tournament should be the number 1 hw in the world

If Alistair wins then I agree, but how could you put Werdum numero uno when he has a loss to JDS, who will most likely loose to Brock or Cain.

dunno about this anton. i'd have a hard time not putting fedor back at number one if he beats silva, especially if it's another first round KO.



but in the long term, such an article is kind've pointless, because really it is the semis that will decide the number one in the world.

so wrong. Werdum is far from beeing the number one HW. Since he beat fedor everybody wants to put him in the top ten which is totally insane. If alistair beats werdum, that would not make him number 1 either. I am a huge fan, but he needs to fight against Cain or Brock or JDS to become the number 1 HW.

to even compare the achievments of werdum and overeem is weird. Overeem holds 3 titles and werdums only acomplishment is a victory of fedor. This whole "fedor was the number one guy, and now, that werdum beat hin, werdum is the number one guy" is really getting annoying. Fedor was the number one guy a long time ago. And werdum is a great fighter but by far not on the top of the HW ranks. Please people. be realistic here. Werdum has to fight a few top people more to be considered the number one HW. And Overeem will destroy him. But even If,lets say Overeem will win the whole thing, he would not be the official number one HW because there are so many Top guys in the UFC that he didn't fight. Im not sittin on dana whites **** here but as long as you don`'t compete against the best guys in the world, you can not be considered the number one guy. But overeem ould be top 3 for sure, with the abilities to beat everybody in the UFC as well. I hope that someday he will prove it and fight in the UFC. If he wins the Tournament, he is really running out of competition. Than he will have beaten everybody outside the UFC.

WHo ever wins the tourney is the #1 ... not this fight....FEDOR IS STILL NUMBER 1.....

Look, I like Cain. I think he's an amazing fighter. But he didn't have to go through what the winner of the Strikeforce Grand Prix will have had to go through to win. IF Overeem wins it, I don't think there's a question that he's the best in the world. The man is the most accomplished combat sports athlete of the year, possibly the last several years. Its true he hasn't fought as regularly in MMA, but every time he does he wins in decisive fashion. If he comes out on top of the tourney I don't see how you couldn't put him above Cain. Cain gets a pass because he is a good fighter, but more importantly because he fights in the UFC, period.

What are they going through tho? They are going to fight 3 times over the next year... Thats what usually happens.

exactly, and the fights arent even remotely close to each other

velasquez fought twice in 2010 and will likely only fight once this year.

Yea... I'm not trying to bash the tourney, because its pretty exciting that we will finally get to see all these Heavyweights actively competing, but its really just Coker finally giving us notice of who will compete over the next year. Hopefully everything pans out.

I agree that the tourni format is a bit of a gimmick but the winner of this tourni will have gone through more than Cain in the calibre of their opponents. Every fight has at least one top ten combatant in it with the exception of Arlovski V Kharitonov neither of whom is an easy fight. So, with that exception, unless Barnett wins (see the bracket) whoever wins will have beaten three top ten guys. If Arlovski or Kharitonov wins then they will have beaten two top ten guys putting them at least on par with Cain. I say "at least" because Cain's second top ten opponent was Brock and I don't think he is nearly as good as Barnett or the finalist on the other side of the bracket and if Rogers beats Barnett I don't think he would have trouble with Brock. The only person in this tourni who is getting it "easy" is Barnett because he only has to beat one top ten guy to take the tourni.

Mike Kile, Antonio Silva, Fedor Emelianenko, check you facts buddy...

Mike who? Antonio who? Oh, he did beat Fedor though. But wait, he also got KTFO by JDS. Hmmm.

and JDS got submitted by Joaquim Ferreira. sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but i'm afraid mma doesn't work like that. ;)

Yeah you probably do not know much MMA outside the UFC,

If Werdum got it to the ground he would win. JDS got to fight in his zone. It is MMA, that one outcome does, especially the way it came, not dictate who is better. I wish they could fight again.

I'm not doing MMAth, what I'm saying is that recently he has a win over Fedor, a loss to JDS, and a win over Antonio Silva and thats about it. It doesn't put Werdum top 3.

Someone said that Werdum could not get 3 W in a row since 2005 that is why I listed his last 3 fights...

I dont anderstand wuy people stil talking about Lesnar and the UFC.For me Lesnar is not a real MMA fighter he is amator with no experience jus like Mariuz Pudzinovski dosen't like taking punches on his face and hiding and running like chicken Tim Silvia with good take down will KO him.Cain is n1 becose of UFC hype not becose he foght any one worthy

I agree 100% with this post, i think anyone that believe the UFC ranks are better then the Strikeforce ranks is just quite simply a UFC fanboy who's opinion doesn't matter.



Cain still has not faced a top 5 HW so its hard to say he is number 1 (I never ranked Lesnar in top 5 and he was out of my top 10 after the Carwin fight). So Cain still has a lot to prove, would be nice if he left the UFC to be able to test himself against the top 3 HW's in Fedor, Overeem and Werdum.

I agree with this article since Fabricio Werdum is the lineal HW champion.he beat the number so he is #1 on the ranking since you are as good as your last fight.and the winner of the Overeem-Werdum fight is the next #1.that said the true #1 will be the champion of this tournament from the left side of the bracket if no injuries occur.for you to be #1 you have to beat the #1. the UFC don't have the best guys in the world and Cain is very good and I like him as a fighter but he has to beat the true best guys in the world to claim he is no.1

Not by beating an amateur MMA pro-wrestling media product who was lied to that he was number one.All the guys in the tournament especially Fedor, Overeem, Josh Barnett, Werdum, and Kharitonov go to different parts of the world to fight the best from different parts of the world.they can claim to be the best in the world.UFC guys only fight within the UFC and claim they are the best.UFC is the Nike of MMA.its a designer fight promotion.more entertainment than fighting.damn!it even has its reality show for fighters now how manly is that.Good article

would be great to see a joint tournament



UFC Strikforce



Cain Overeem

JDS Fedor

Lesnar Werdum

Carwin Big foot



Yes it would never happen that would prove best HW in world

would be great to see a joint tournament



UFC Strikforce



Cain Overeem

JDS Fedor

Lesnar Werdum

Carwin Big foot



Yes it would never happen that would prove best HW in world

Hard to compare fighters hypothetically but fun ...

Its even harder when Strikeforce does not use standardized MMA rules (such as elbows on the ground being allowed).



As long as these greedy rat-face promoters run things we will probably never really know at any given time who is the real number one.



If they truly loved the fans like they say .. we would see some cross promotion fights to settle the issue. But neither league wants their champion beaten by the "other" league.

There's some for cain, some for fedor some for Overeem.



the truth is that unless Cain Overeem and fedor all fight each other we'll never truly know who is the #1 HW. If DW wasn't so tight when negotiating contracts Overeem and Fedor would have been in the UFC along time ago. There are arguements for all of these fighters to be ranked as #1 for different reasons, but the arguements against are equally as strong so rank whoever you do as highly as you do. I personally don't think Cain warrants being ranked #1 HW just because he is in the UFC. lesnar was their joke of a champ who got shown what decent strikers will do to him in his last 2 fights. Don't be so fast to jump on the cain bandwagon as the greatest HW out there. he is certainly top 3 or 4 at least but #1 will be determined by the winner of this tournament by many peoples reckoning and I will go along with that.

Overeem vs. Werdum will determine the #1 MMA fighter in the world"?



I don't think so. Rankings are nothing more than that, rankings. There are a lot of qualified fighters for the "number 1" position.

You can't rank Fedor as #1. Beating someone means you take their spot, maybe more. Regardless of what Fedor's rank was before, Werdum beat him, thus Werdum has to be ranked ahead of Fedor. Overeem has accomplished a lot and in very convincing fashion. Honestly, I don't think Werdum stands a chance. Strikeforce has some great heavy weights, and so does the UFC.



Where does Cain rank? Not #1, he's just not that good. Champ he may be, but great he is not. I think Dos Santos could take him. If you look at quality of opponent and manner of defeat, I think you have to rank them this way.



#1. Alistair Overeem. He has not been beaten in MMA in several years. He is the Strikeforce champion. He made Todd Duffee look like an amateur, and he beat Brett Rogers in a lot less time than it took Fedor. And let's not forget that Rogers almost knocked out Fedor, they were seconds away from a stoppage.



#2. Cain Velasquez. Not because he's really that good but because he is the UFC champ, he earned a top ranking. And he did beat Brock in convincing fashion even though many of his other performances were lackluster. The promotion champions have to be the top rankings by virtue of being the champs. They've earned it, I just think that Overeem is better.



#3. Brock Lesnar. Realistically, I think there are few that seriously believe Werdum could take Brock. Fedor, maybe. It's all about stylistic matchups. Brock, when he is on his game, dominates. That's how he became the champ.



#4. Fabricio Werdum. He beat Fedor, simple as that. Any poor performances before that don't matter. Right now is what matters, and right now he beat a legend in his last fight. He's earned to be ranked ahead of Fedor.



#5. Fedor Emelianenko. Has been fighting tomato cans for a while, but an unbeaten streak counts for something and he has beaten some great fighters.



#6. Junior Dos Santos. He put up a crappy performance against Roy Nelson, but otherwise he has looked good. Will he take Brock? Doubtful. Will he take Cain if given the chance? Maybe.



#7. Shane Carwin. Roids and all, Carwin has some power. He destroyed Frank Mir, and almost beat Brock. I wonder about his ground game though as Brock is the only one who's really tested it and he ran right through it, acidosis or not.

Your just an idiot.. lol i disagree with yr whole post. JDS should be higher, overeeem shouldnt be number 1. werdum shuoldnt be that high, he should deff be on it for beating who everyone thought was number one but #4...? thats just insane man..

if you're going by skills, then brock shouldn't be ahead of any heavyweight with good striking and decent td defense on this list until he proves he can take a punch

If Dana wans to have n 1 ranked fighters he shuld alow them to fight outside UFC or copromote let Cain or JDS to fight in SF turnament

Whatever! You'll know who's number 1 when they ALL fight each other and one person comes out on top. Without that happening, it's impossible to say. It's just that primitive mindset that cannot cognate not having a number 1. Neither Velasquez, nor Fedor, Overeem, or Werdum are No1. Any other conclusion is mere speculatuion shut up!

I think Werdum is better than Cain at BJJ, obviously.... I also feel that Overeem is a better striker than Cain, that's not really debatable. Now Cain is better at wrestling than both Werdum or Overeem, but I think each fighter has a skill that defines them as a fighter. All 3 of them are great, and if they fight each other it answers lots of questions, 1 being if Werdum can beat "todays" version of Overeem (UBEREEM). If he can there's no doubt, at least in my mind that he is number 1 in the world, especially since Cain is sitting on the side lines being in active.