Jon Jones Calls Matt Mitrione A Scumbag Over Fallon Fox Comments

Posted on April 25, 2013, 12:58 PM by Rory Kernaghan
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The seemingly never ending Fallon Fox saga has taken yet another turn, the latest to get involved is none other than Light-Heavyweight boss Jon Jones. 'Bones' spoke to MMAJunkie.com about 'Meathead' and his recent tirade over transsexual fighter FF:

"I think he's terrible for that," Said the 205lb. kingpin. "It's ridiculous. I think Fallon Fox, that's a strong person. Despite what the person has been through in their life, that's a strong person. I'm a fan of that person because of what they've gone through and what they're willing to go through. People like Matt Mitrione are scumbags. He's a scumbag. I don't care if he's off suspension or doesn't fight again. He's a ridiculous person."

It is well documented that Mittrione recently served a suspension from the UFC due to an interview he gave calling Fox a 'Sociopathic freak'. Jones continued:

"He needs to shut his mouth, That's how I feel about that kid. He's scum."

Given the controversy surrounding the situation, do you think Jones should be getting involved? Isn't he just stooping to Mittrione's level by using an interview as a basis for name calling? Stay tuned to Lowkick!


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  • aaron-sisson1994
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    Notice Jon Jones refers to Fallon Fox as "That person"

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  • Mike Drahota
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    I noticed that too aaron, like he wasn't sure of how to address that in the interview. Probably best to just not say anything if that's the case.

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  • enjoylife321
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    Mike...when are these MMA turkeys going to realise that you don't talk about gender, politics, religion, or trash talk people outside your weight class when it only draws negative attention....Rhonda rousey also needs a opinion checker device before she speaks as well.

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  • Baby Ads
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    i think i would be more appropriate if he calls mittrione patrick star.

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  • FoetusFarm
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    jon jones calls matt a scumbag because he had an opinion, and is a fan of a man who had a *** change and now beats on women??
    matt never addressed his point in the most sensitivew way but people are mistaking him. he never called fallon fox a freak because of hes now a trans gender. he called him a freak because he had a *** change and is using it as a huge advantage to fight in a womans league.imo a mans frame in a womans league is about the same advantage as a woman abusing steroids to fight

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  • FoetusFarm
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    **cex change** damn censors

    Reply 12 months ago
  • KeithFarrell
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    He called Mitrione a scumbag because he is bullying someone for no reason other than he heard about the situation Fallon Fox is in, deciding he thinks its bad from the little information he knows and went on the air and publicly branded her a Freak and weirdo etc.

    I'm not saying Fox is right but for us outsiders, disagree if you want but verbally attacking that person is wrong.

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  • thealex
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    i hope chael beats his *** this weekend

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  • UnderdogGreatness
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    Haha - good luck with that.

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  • grandslam
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    I hope so too. IMO its a fight between two scumbags! hope both get beaten up.

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  • Rory Kernaghan
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    #could happen

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  • dropkickmurphy
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    Is Jones allowed to drive yet?

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  • Beaks
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    just what i was thinking. people confuse being a str8 shooter with willing giving unwanted comments. shut up Jon!!!

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  • Beaks
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    willingly...excuse my grammar.

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  • xcityofemberx
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    I think Jones would want to have a *** change....

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  • fightgame
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    I am very disappointed with Jones and his comment. Mitrione was the only one who had enough balls to speak out what everyone else was thinking: you cannot let a man fight women, it is both dangerous and heartless! And he got suspended and called all kinds of names for being brave and truthful.

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  • Michael Stephensen
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    Bullying / harrassment is never brave and truthful. He could have said "I don't think it would be fair for Fox to fight as a woman" - fair enough. The name calling was hurtful and unneccessary.

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  • Rory Kernaghan
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    @michael it certainly wasn't a good representation of the UFC

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  • Beaks
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    i agree that it was unneccessary to name call but I would choose to not include bullying and harrassment. Being on a radio and stating your opinion does not constitute as bullying and harrassment, those words are leading. if he was at FF's fights and saying it or following him/her around saying it i would be inclined to use such words.

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  • KeithFarrell
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    THANK YOU Michael, finally someone who can see bullying, even someone in a difficult and perhaps bad situation, is not the good and honest thing to do

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  • xcityofemberx
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    How about the statement of Jones?

    "People like Matt Mitrione are scumbags. He's a scumbag."

    Isn't that also a good representation of the UFC and he should be suspended too?

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  • KeithFarrell
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    No of course not, Matt was basically making hate speech

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  • Bryan Fontez
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    Regarding keeping quite, Jones should probably take his own advice. He has no idea how to appeal to media and fans, and that's why he has soo many haters to this day.

    He also obviously doesn't understand the situation or the science behind it otherwise he wouldn't be in agreeance with what's going on. Everyone knows that what Fox is trying to do is completely wrong both morally and ethically.

    Regardless of Mitrione's comments, Jones isn't coming off as someone who's very informed. And I agree with pretty much everything Mitrione said, but as Dana pointed out, the issue is solely with how he went about saying it.

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  • Michael Stephensen
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    Bryan, I think you are correct but I'd say he has been better in the last year, don't you think. Carefully spoken and less outspoken.

    I'm sure Greg told him to shut up to get some fans.

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  • KeithFarrell
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    @Bryan
    He has so many haters because people like you twist his words for something they are not.
    You say he agrees with the situation... uh can you quote where he says that?

    Or are you just taking the part where he calls someone who has been publicly bullied, probably all their life, strong for doing what they want to do and not caring what the bullies say?
    He is saying the Fallon's is strong because of her determination and want for the sport, not because of what she is doing.

    Stop twisting words, this isn't TMZ

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  • Bryan Fontez
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    He definitely has been better and I'm sure the less he talks the more fans he'll end up with.

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  • SatelliteMan
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    He's been 'acting' better. Every time I try to like the guy he does something to remind me he's a douche

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  • ChrisStrickland
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    I feel like Matt Mitrione would beat his *** like a child... I also feel like Mitrione knows this, and doesn't care how Jones feels about him.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Yes, he got beat up by Check Kongo and Roy Nelson but he'd beat Jones' ***. Sure.

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  • ChrisStrickland
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    Roy Nelson and Cheick Kongo would also beat his *** like a child... probably worse.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Oh, of course. Jones *****.

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  • ChrisStrickland
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    I think it's hilarious what they censor and don't censor on this site. Jones obviously doesn't ****, but he's not ready for heavyweight. He wouldn't have any of his ridiculous physical advantages. Cheick Kongo would pick him apart, and destroy his legs, and Roy Nelson would lay on him and crucifix him. Those long arms are perfect for crucifixing. I could be wrong though. I am a serious Jones hater.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Hahaha, at least you're admitting it!

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  • KeithFarrell
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    @ChrisStrickland you obvious have no idea what you are saying if you think Kongo would pick apart Jon Jones.... LOL.

    Kongo hasn't put on a good striking performance in a few years and he struggles against technical strikers (Hunt, Barry, Mir). Jon Jones would pick him apart even if they fought at what they weigh in tonight.

    Just because Nelson is heavier doesn't mean he would easily outgrapple Jones... I think years of wrestling and being a Greco national champ would be more important in Jones' case.

    Oh wait Nelson got Kimbo in the crucifix so obviously he will do it to that lame world champion Jon Jones...

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  • ChrisStrickland
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    Fallon Fox also definitely just gave Jon Jones some taboo lovin'.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Good for Jones. Nothing Matt said was valid. He didn't say what Cain said. He didn't say what Rogan said. He went off in a completely vulgar manner that was nothing but hurtful and cowardly.

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  • ChrisStrickland
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    I hate to be so sophomoric, but you're really fuckin lame dude.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Much appreciated.

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  • falcon4917
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    It may of been hurtful but not cowardly.

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  • Evan Holober
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    No, it was cowardly.

    It wasn't taking a stand. It wasn't showing a concern. It was berating of a person with no real way to defend themselves.

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  • Bryan Fontez
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    Evan, you're being biased in one direction only. You don't realize how Fox believing that what she's doing is right has offended regular people who follow the rules like Matt Mitrione.

    I don't ever condone the vulgarities or manner with which he went about sharing his thoughts, but you're opinion on it is way to strong to the point where you're coming off ignorant.

    The fact of the matter is that you're defending someone who is breaking the rules, and is lying in order to compete in a dangerous and violent sport with a serious advantage of their opponents.

    In many ways I can see where people are coming from when they call Fallon Fox disgusting, and in my opinion he is disgusting.

    Not because of anything having to do with who he is or has become in his personal life, but because he's trying to make it ok for a man to fight a woman, whicht truly is disgusting.

    If you know the science and have some common sense you know that everything about the Fallon Fox situation is all wrong. And if I'm incorrect, why are the most experienced and educated human beings in this sport in agreeance with me?

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  • Evan Holober
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    "Evan, you're being biased in one direction only. You don't realize how Fox believing that what she's doing is right has offended regular people who follow the rules like Matt Mitrione"

    Well considering you've spouted "know the science" multiple times in this thread, and the science is nothing more than inconclusive (for your opinion and mine alike) at the moment I wouldn't really accuse anybody else of bias. Because it makes you look incredibly hypocritical.

    Secondly, what Fox is trying to do is the same thing all regular people are trying to do (because whether you understand it or not Fox is "regular"). She's trying to be a part of a career in which she can excel (while also moving up as quick as possible because she's in her late 30's).

    "I don't ever condone the vulgarities or manner with which he went about sharing his thoughts, but you're opinion on it is way to strong to the point where you're coming off ignorant."

    Bullshit. If you condone what Matt said (which you've implied multiple times), you condone cutting down of a specific person for no other reason than her being a transexual. Again, there are examples of people completely disagreeing with her fighting other women that have done it in a respectful manner. matt is not one of those, and for you to not grasp that very simple manner is a testament to your ignorance level. Not mine.

    "The fact of the matter is that you're defending someone who is breaking the rules,"

    The fact of the matter is she is breaking no rules at the moment by her status being in the public. She broke the rules by not specifying it in a pre fight form twice, but has since been reprimanded.

    The main question to ask is why did she do that? Because there was no spot on the form to put that she was a transexual? Because she is legally a woman, and has the legitimate argument of not having to divulge it? Or because there is section of the public that would immediately crucify her for who she is?

    Then again she could also have been just transformed into a woman because she knew that six years down the line women's MMA would blow up to have 2 or 3 fighters making decent money at it. That is a possibility. Not very realistic (as she also had to live like a woman for a year prior to that and pretty much destroyed her family life a few years prior). But it is a possibility.

    "In many ways I can see where people are coming from when they call Fallon Fox disgusting, and in my opinion he is disgusting."

    You are obviously entitled to your opinion. As anybody else is. But then when you say this, it becomes transparent you don't know what you're talking about:
    "but because he's trying to make it ok for a man to fight a woman, whicht truly is disgusting."

    She's a woman. Not a man. She is legally a woman, with the hormone levels of a woman. The only thing to have a debate on now is if her skeletal structure, and years of muscle development are curved by the treatments she has undergone for the last 6+ years. Which do not have a valid answer yer, although you seem to think they do.

    "If you know the science and have some common sense you know that everything about the Fallon Fox situation is all wrong. "

    Have you actually looked at the science? It really doesn't look like you have. Here is a wonderful thread from Sherdog (I know Sherdog of all places!) that has multiple points of view from both sides: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f12/matt-mitrione-v-li-transgender-athlete-discussion-2438897/index21.html (especially check out 15-25. some really good scientific data).

    "And if I'm incorrect, why are the most experienced and educated human beings in this sport in agreeance with me?"

    Well actually big guy, you're not. I don't what you've seen or looked at, but I can tell you there are very few scientists (comparatively) that are in complete agreement that transgenders should never complete with women. There is a very vocal portion who think they need more testing. However, there's more of a portion that believes the side of the spectrum completely opposite of your opinion is accurate.


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  • Bryan Fontez
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    Some decent points Evan and thanks for the links.

    Aside from you undying and extreme desire to always be correct and have a superior and stronger opinion, the only thing I have a huge issue with is your last point, simply because it implies that you don't seem to respect or see any validity in the opinions of others who just may know more about the topic and it's morality than you do. Like Dana, Joe and many other experienced and highly intelligent fighters.

    It's impossible to say, but I would strongly disagree that the majority of the people are in support of what Fox is doing.

    I have nothing more to say on the matter other than I respect everyone and the way they live, but I will never support and respect a human being born with the DNA of a man fighting a human being born with the DNA of Woman, no matter how many artificial transformations he/she goes through.

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  • partyboy
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    god i hate when people do the 'paragraph by paragraph breakdown' to try and discredit someone, its got to be the most condescending thing people do on this site

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  • Bryan Fontez
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    I couldn't agree more it's completely condescending. But sometimes you just gotta ignore how obnoxious rude others are in order to make any progress.

    Evan knows he's a pain in the ***, but doesn't seem to care, so why should? Let him be aggravating and fuel his inner need and desire to be superior.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Rude, I'm responding to your opinion on a point by point basis? Is it my fault your opinion loses all credibility when broken down like that? I don't think so. However, you have been a bit of a child whenever anybody calls you out on here so I'm not exactly surprised you feel the need to look for a way out here. Can't really use your line of "I'm paid to write here" as a cop out against somebody else who is also.

    If you don't wanna converse with me, don't respond with bullshit treating it like its fact. It's simple.

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  • Evan Holober
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    "Aside from you undying and extreme desire to always be correct and have a superior and stronger opinion"

    Pretty much correct. I don't always have an opinion on something, but when I do I won't be quitting a debate just because somebody can type more. IMO, its a better way to go about debate than say just claiming I'm a contributor here and I don't have to converse with anybody because that's not what I'm paid for. However, to each his own.

    "simply because it implies that you don't seem to respect or see any validity in the opinions of others who just may know more about the topic and it's morality than you do. Like Dana, Joe and many other experienced and highly intelligent fighters."

    See, that's where you're getting off course again. I have no problem with the opinion that there isn't enough science available for her to compete against women yet (if ever). I've never implied that.

    What I have said is I have a problem with people passing off opinion as fact (or some type of proof). I also have a problem when bigotry is somehow given a pass because of the person its directed towards.

    "It's impossible to say, but I would strongly disagree that the majority of the people are in support of what Fox is doing."

    Completely correct. I would wager that most are on the side of Rosi Sexton (basically they don't really know if its fair or not).

    I'm not asking for a long response here or anything, but if proof does come out that Fallon has no physical edge over her opponents (in a massive sense not like say has she's as strong/quick as Sarah Kauffman), you still wouldn't be in support?



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  • enjoylife321
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    Between Bryan's and Evan's comments, so far I have a split decision and we are heading to championship rounds.

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  • Bryan Fontez
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    If evidence suggested he or she had no advantages then being a man of logic I'd obviously have to support her cause and would have no issue doing so.

    But that's extremely hypothetical, and I don't believe it to be the case, nor do I think it will ever be the case even after all the necessary research and testing is done.

    You are born with the chemical composition, DNA and chromosomes of the *** that you are. No amount of tweaking, surgery or artificial hormones are going to change that. Not fully.

    And that's the reason why it will never be an even playing field or remotely fair. I don't new evidence to know that you can't turn a goat into a cow. It's common sense and this situation is no different.

    You can't decrease the density of your joints and bones, I'd even argue that you can't decrease your natural muscle density, only your hormones can be manipulated.

    I love science and research is all fine and dandy. In fact it's welcomed. But you don't need a lick of evidence or research to know a man is a man, a woman is a woman, and you can't change one into another. Period.

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  • Bryan Fontez
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    That bleeped out word was supposed to be S.ex

    @Enjoy lol thanks for keeping score buddy!

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  • enjoylife321
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    But in all seriousness, a man can never truly become a woman because it defies science and logic. A man is identified as having different chromosomes X&Y. They will have a large adams apple, bigger hands, bigger jaw, and two christmas tree balls and a sword. Furthermore, they can never reproduce like a woman....They should be the criteria right there.

    Men can act as women but you can never truly become a woman so its stupid that governments would allow someone to be recognised overnight as a woman. Fox should be recognised as transgender but not have the right to become a woman.

    Furthermore, transgender people should be respected entirely, but they should have their own specific identity, not that of a woman. Because they are not women, they just dress like women, take hormones, get implants and cut off the sausage. That is not natural but artificial.

    But in summary, anyone who treats another human being the way meathead did was pretty low act.

    fallon Fox doesn't deserve to be treated like this and she has every right to dress, speak the way she wants. I just don't think we should allow individuals to one day wake up as women, because chromosomes will always identify the truth.

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  • Bryan Fontez
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    Now compete in a violent and dangerous sport against the opposite ***!

    I agree with you completely!

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  • Evan Holober
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    enjoy- I agree that from a scientific standpoint that a man will always be a man. However, I don't think its just about the government identifying transgenders as such as why we should refer to them at women. I also don't think a Dna test would prove anything about competitive level. So we disagree on a few things.

    However, I wanna say my main point to you is thank you. This is really the only thing I've been trying to push on this site (about Meathead's comments). You can disagree with Fallon being a woman respectfully. You can disagree with her fighting. You can disagree with the sexual reassignment process. I have no problem with those things, and will debate you with my point of view.

    Where I draw the line is disrespect, and I would hope most would do the same.

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  • Bryan Fontez
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    Nor*

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  • Evan Holober
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    Bryan- Some good points. Some points I disagree with (The goat and cow, the DNA being the telltale sight for competition, and somehow sexual reassignment surgery being common sense), but neither of our minds are gonna change on those so that's fine.

    What I would say is the main points are the bones/joints conversation, and the muscle density.

    The muscle fibers/density convo is incredibly complicated (and IMO what the final decision will end up coming down too in the future). A man is stronger than with the same amount of muscle mass, not a surprise. What is a point of contention is what makes that mass stronger/quicker? It has been thought that it is the fibers and just overall build of the man's muscle that makes it far more useful than the woman's, but there have been separate studies recently that have shown that testosterone levels are the key (which would mean taking it away would put the muscles at even keel). However, as the studies are combated by other studies on the opposite view point nothing is conclusive.

    On bones/joints most of the evidence right now points to a male's not changing much from the therapy, but there are some experts who do believe differently.

    Its just all so incredibly complicated.

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  • jeffriezel1
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    sounds like jones is just kissing *** or **** lol.. Maybe greg told him to win some fans back up fallon.. anyways just stick to fighting jon.

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    Let he-she fight Chris Cyborg Santos n see who is better

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  • dropkickmurphy
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    exactly what I was thinking.

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  • Akordas
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    So Jon Jones is libertarian. I gotta new promotion for you guys to attract more audience especaly from government it might help with New York. Libertarian vs Republican on UFC 159 on only on Pay per view!

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    I don't agree with what Fox is doing but I disagree even more with how Matt addressed the situation.

    It's funny all you haters said Jones was fake and was never real and when he speaks his mind you criticise everything he says.

    Imagine if Chael Sonnen said this, you would be bathing in his words.

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    Overall, I agree with The Champ. However, I think he should use a different word or words, to describe Meat. That said, I don't believe The Champ should tell him to shut-up. Matt is, after all, entitled to his opinion, regardless of how poorly stated.

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