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Five Reasons Demetrious Johnson Still Isn’t The GOAT

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4. Georges St-Pierre

When the conversation of GOAT begins to float about, one name that never fails to be mentioned is that of former welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre.

St-Pierre ruled the 170-pound division in dominant fashion, earning wins over the likes of Matt Hughes, BJ Penn (twice), Matt Serra, Thiago Alves, Jake Shields, Carlos Condit, Nick Diaz, and Johny Hendricks. That is certainly a track record worthy of being considered one of the greatest of all time.

‘Rush’ was able to rack up a 12-fight win streak that included nine successful consecutive title defenses, and could have earned more had he not decided to retire from MMA competition following his razor-thin win over Hendricks in 2013. Now St-Pierre has the itch to get back into the ultimate proving ground and fight once more, but this time he’s attempting to do it in the 185-pound weight division.

If ‘GSP’ is able to become one of the few men to have ever held titles in two difference weight classes, he’ll silence the conversation for GOAT.

  • Murdock

    I agree with number 5.

  • aFriendlyAgenda

    “Level Of Competition”

    He seems dominant enough
    But its hard to put that in perspective when I’ve never heard of any of the dudes who he’s fought other then Cruz

    And kind of like anderson silva still beating up on a thin 185 division years after he cleared it out, DJ has nothing left to prove at 125

    If he’s skilled enough it should offset any size disadvantage by moving up and fighting some more familiar faces

    • JamesC

      i slightly disagree. He would not be going in fighting the number 5 ranked guy at BW. He would be fighting one of the top 3 guys, all who held the strap. Those guys are VERY skilled and have few holes. So although DJ might have a slight skill advantage (and it would be slight…Cruz and Dillashaw have sooo many tools) that the size advantage might win out. That is how it played out in the Cruz fight…which was not all that close. Dillishaw would be the most interesting fight because I think he is not that much bigger than DJ and is almost as fast. Cruz is too big. I dont mention Cody…because tbh…I dont see him getting past TJ. I think he beat an older slower Cruz.

      • Alexandr Solzhenitsyn

        TJ will dominate Cody from start to finish.

        I agree with every word of your post. I too would be interested to see TJ v the mouse. Both brilliantly skilled and not much size difference.

  • Jess Fenchley

    He may best the best of the little men, and that is all. Don’t even try to compare him to guys in higher weight classes, he would get killed.

  • JamesC

    Its tough because little guys can do things big guys cannot. The level of competition argument is weak because he is beating the best guys at the weight easily (McCall, Benzvides, Dodson, Cejudo). The reason those guys arent big names is beause of DJ’s success and the lighter weight class. Plus nobody in that division including DJ is a talker. Jones, Silva, and GSP ran into talkers who helped build their fights.

    DJ is so damn dominant that it doesnt make sense to talk. From a technical stand point. DJ is great everywhere and can do everything. I dare you to find a hole in his game. I dare you to find an aspect of his game that he is not above average in. GSP and Bones lack KO power. Silva lacks the wrestling. They have holes and their is a blue print of possibly how to beat them.

    Anderson has not fought high level comp nor has Jones at another weight (sorry James Irvin and old Forrest). In truth Jones success has been in part to his size advantage. GSP beating Bisping…makes it a bit of a conversation. DJ had a good fight with Cruz and beat Torres and Kid Yamamoto towards their end at BW. So he can be successful at multiple weights.

    For my money…their are guys who dont get mentioned in the GOAT talk that are as good or better than Jones, Silva, and GSP (Cain Velasquez, Jose Aldo, Dominick Cruz, Daniel Cormier). I think if DC beats Jones, Cain wins the title again, Aldo beats McGregor or Cruz regains the strap…those guys are all in the conversation.

    All that being said…from a technical standpoint. If every fighters was the same size. DJ has more skills than ANYONE!!! If this is a popularity contest…well then Conor is the GOAT!!!!

  • synyster

    DJ has faced way better comp then Jon lol… Jons comp was good in 2010 most of them are over the hill legends

    • Murdock

      DJ’s opponents aren’t even high level competition other than McCall, Dodson and Benavidez. The rest fought tomato cans prior to fighting Johnson and dropped out of the top 10 or the UFC post title fight.

      The majority of Jones’ opponents were legit top 10 light heavyweights at the time minus Sonnen.