White Keeps Hammering Away At GSP / MacDonald

White Keeps Hammering Away At GSP / MacDonald


“I don’t want to keep going against what the kid says publicly, but anybody who really believes and I’m not going to say what he and I talk about privately, but do you really believe that this kid doesn’t want a shot at the title? Of course, he does. Where he trains and where he lives, he’s in GSP’s house, okay. He’s not going to beat his chest and talk about, that he wants a shot at GSP and GSP would be insane to think that Rory wouldn’t want a shot at him. Ya know, the kid is not here working his way up the ladder to get there and not get a shot at the title, it’s ridiculous, but he’s not going to beat his chest and scream, ya know, from the roof-tops when he’s living in GSP’s house and I mean training in his gym, living in Montreal and the list goes on and on.”

Those are the words of UFC President Dana White to “FOX Sports” and his thoughts on Rory MacDonald fighting team-mate, good friend and welterweight champion, Georges St. Pierre.

For a couple of years now, a fight between the two has been a topic of conversation and in answering questions on the matter, both fighters have repeatedly stated that they will not fight one another. To further the point, both have just recently and again, affirmed their assertations.  

However and of course, the question hasn’t gone away and has only become more pronounced with the continued success of both fighters and should the pair win their next respective bouts, one can only assume, at least to Dana White, that the question will no longer be asked, but rather, will be banging on the door and loudly.

White and for good reason, is being like a dog with a bone on this question. If the two continue to be successful, a match between the fighters would be a big draw and sell for the UFC and particularly in Canada.

However, if we pick through the bones of Dana’s remarks what do they really tell us?

First, when he speaks of the difference between Rory’s public and private words and that Rory wants a shot at the title, this is not news nor is it in conflict with MacDonald’s on-record statements in regards to (not) fighting GSP.  

Second, as White is not bosom-buddies with MacDonald and obviously doesn’t spend much time around him or talking to him, I find it difficult to believe that the two have had full-throated and serious discussions on the subject. It’s even less likely when we stop to consider the fact, that until Rory climbs the ladder fully, there would be no sense in wasting time on the matter. This also goes without mentioning that GSP must survive Johny Hendricks, this coming November. Resultantly, until both tasks are accomplished the point is moot in terms of serious discussions.

Third, White raises the issue of MacDonald not wanting to “beat his chest”, while in GSP’s house. On this point, there are two points. First, “Tri-Star” is as much Rory’s house (now) as it is Rush’s. Second, he’s not beating his chest about a fight with Georges, because he’s been calmly, matter-of-factly and always speaking about the fact, that he won’t fight his friend and team-mate. On this point, I take both MacDonald and St. Pierre at their words.

Fourth, GSP is not under any delusions that Rory doesn’t want to be champion. Rush has said many times and for years, that he sees MacDonald as a better version of himself, the future of the welterweight division and its “someday” champion. However, none of that is predicated on MacDonald having to fight GSP for the belt.

Fifth, as to the question of  whether or not Rush “would be insane to think that Rory wouldn’t want a shot at him”, I would have to point out to White that wanting a shot at the title and wanting a shot at his friend and team-mate, are two different things. Where MacDonald has made it plain that he wants to be champion, he’s (also) made it equally clear that he’s not interested in fighting GSP. Again, I take him at face-value on both points.

Regarding the question of MacDonald’s ascendancy to the 170 throne and exactly what the plan is over at Tri-Star, I have no idea. My guess is, that the only two people who really know are GSP and MacDonald and even then, it might only be Rush who truly knows.

That said, as Silva and Machida will never square-off, so too, do I believe that St. Pierre and MacDonald will never face one another in the Octagon.

On this issue, it could well prove that White is the one who is insane and his insanity could well hit a fever-pitch tonight, should MacDonald defeat Ellenberger; particularly if it’s a solid and decisive victory. 

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  • http://lowkickmma.com/author/azzkika azzkika

    fact is if Rory wants WW belt anytime soon GSP is most likely going to be wearing and it is not easy to remove.

    • http://lowkickmma.com/author/OperationCWAL OperationCWAL

      Do you mean, Rory vs WW champion Johny Hendricks??! That would be exciting to watch!

      • http://lowkickmma.com/author/BrianCox Brian Cox

        I'd agree, MacDonald / Hendricks would be a good fight, WW title or otherwise.

        However, I'm confident of this, should he beat Georges, he's going to have to do it again immediately and win again, to remain Champ. I think Hendricks beating GSP twice is a a tall order.

        Beyond that, as good as Johny is at what he does, it's too limited for him to remain champion, long. He will not / would not reign as GSP has. I just don't see that happening for Bigg Rigg.

        I think he can take the belt, but I don't think he can hold it. At least not for long.

        • http://lowkickmma.com/author/akieyugames akieyugames

          Same assesment on Weidman,

  • http://lowkickmma.com/author/Entity Entity

    Its ok, it only makes Rory look like a moron. I think hes counting on Hendricks dethroning him. Who knows Rory might step away and try to take down GSP. He kind of seems like a guy that would do that.

    • http://lowkickmma.com/author/BrianCox Brian Cox

      Entity, I'm going to go out on a limb, here and say, that you don't like Rory. :-(

      • http://lowkickmma.com/author/Entity Entity

        Many guys I respect their abilities, but some come off wrong to me, it will take a while before he lives past his disrespect to BJ Penn with his "Silva showboating"

  • http://lowkickmma.com/author/N.C. N.C.

    I've seen GSP in real life. I've also seen guys like Diego Sanchez and Gray in real life.

    If those two can make 155, GSP can make 155!

    Call this crazy (you will), but GSP hinted that he could make 155 easier then 185. I expect the next super fight to be Aldo vs GSP. At 155.

    Both Aldo and GSP are 5'9" and 5'10" respectively. If aldo wins, which i expect him too. He already got it in writing he'd go for the 155 belt. If he takes that too. I honestly expect his stock would finally go through the roof for Aldo.

    A GSP vs 2 div champion would be a super fight in Canada or Brazil UFC could fill a monster stadium in. You'd be looking at the Olympic stadium in Vancouver or one of those monster soccer fields in Brazil.

    Then Macd's would get a clear lane to the title.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/author/BrianCox Brian Cox

    Well NC, that's a theory and not a bad one. I think something is up and that's why neither fighter is particularly worried about it.

    That said, my bet is that no matter what GSP and MacDonald will never fight.

    Enjoy the fights tonight.

    • http://lowkickmma.com/author/BruceLee Bruce Lee

      I liked MacDonald until I saw his personality. With that personality I can't see his loyalty to GSP being more important to him than his aspirations and goals. I don't like the way he spoke about Condit. Needlessly unrespectful – not in a hyping kind of way. He's cold and friendship with George won't last.

      They will have a falling out and then they will fight.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/author/JTalbain JTalbain

    I really just don't get how some people get hung up on a couple of publicized statements, particularly when they're filtered through the lens of sensationalist media editing, and use it to judge a person's entire personality. Bisping was thought to be a total a-hole before be really did anything that called for that opinion (Bisping was right to be pissed, but spitting on Rivera's corner was totally uncalled for), as virtually every comment which garnered him scorn was on either a) a fight hype video, or b) a reality tv show. Similarly, Rory makes a few disparaging comments about BJ Penn's abilities and says he's going to be champion someday, and all of a sudden people think they know what he's "really" like?

    I'm kind of reminded of Frank Mir's conversation with Nog when they were both hosting TUF. Nog said they needed to get rid of the alcohol in the house so their fighters would behave themselves. Frank responded with something like, "Who do you think put it there in the first place? This is a reality tv show. It's their job to manufacture drama."

    Wake up people. If all you've seen of someone is coming through a medium which is more or less advertising for the sport, you probably have almost no idea what any of these fighters are actually like.

    • http://lowkickmma.com/author/BrianCox Brian Cox

      I think that's a reasonable assessment, JT.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/author/watermelonfresh watermelon fresh

    Dana only cares about ppv sales, not the fighters or their wishes. He has never really trained mma or bjj in a gym with a school, I don't think. It's really a team atmosphere and a bond these guys develop, but more than anything they function as a team and don't want to face off against each other. Until Dana can pay these guys enough where they can have an entire camp built around them mma is going to remain a team/camp setting.

    Dana only cares about Dana, not the fighters,their wishes.

    the fretitats strike me as more extreme.