Silva wants GSP, Win lose or draw at UFC 154: Condit is meaningless
Posted on August 29, 2012, 06:25 PM by Mike Searson
UFC President Dana White recently confirmed that Georges St. Pierre and UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson "Spider" Silva have expressed interest in a super fight. Win, lose or draw it has been speculated that St. Pierre's next opponent after Carlos Condit will be Anderson Silva in a Catchweight bout.
"Spider", recently volunteered on short notice to fight at Light Heavyweight at UFC 151 when Dan Henderson withdrew due to injury. However, the offer was left on the table and the event cancelled. He has, instead turned his sights to the Welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre. Silva does not even care if GSP successfully defends the Welterweight title against Carlos Condit at UFC 154 at the Bell Centre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada on November 17, 2012.
In an interview with Brazilian SportTV the Middleweight Champ said: "Regardless of who wins, even if St. Pierre loses, a fight with me can happen. A fight like this is above anything else. St. Pierre is one of the greatest of the UFC. Right now, a fight with Condit is meaningless."
It sounds like Silva almost wants to jump the gun and fight St. Pierre, before GSP faces Condit. While that bout could prove interesting, this writer is curious to see if an 18-month recovery has taken its toll on St. Pierre's game. If Condit emerges victorious, the stakes for a Silva vs. GSP superfight drop to more of an exhibition grade bout. A true superfight is when two champions from different divisions face each other. Although Silva says he will take the bout whether the outcome of GSP vs. Condit is "Win, lose or draw", a true superfight between the two requires an extra "1" in the win column for St. Pierre
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I wonder what is getting Silva so excited about these super-fight matchups, first Jones and now GSP. If anything it must be one of two things 1) Silva cleared out his division and just doesn't see the challenge in it anymore and/or 2) Silva wants a big payday by challenging someone outside the division because there are no big name opponents left for him at 185.
I don't see anywhere he says that he will fight Jon Jones. When have he said that he will fight Jones in a Super-fight.
I agree. Nowhere has Silva expressed publicly an interest in a mega-fight with Jones--a match-up that makes the more sense than one with a smaller GSP. After all, Silva has already fought in LHW and destroyed its former champ; so why not publicly challenge its current uncontested champ who has almost no credible contender? Silva believes he can beat GSP; I don't think he feels the same way about a fight with Jones...
@bore, Yes, silva fans who weak you won't admit it but Silva does not like the high risk of losing to Jones. However, the prestige and ppv money that comes in winning a fight against a smaller P4P fighter like GSP is interesting. Silva is probably right in thinking it will be easier to negate GSP's wrestling due to his smaller size than Giant Jones's.
Dana announced that Silvasaid he would fight JJ but not on 8days notice....
get in line........
he wont fight jones wen the media asked him he jokingly hid behind his belt and made scared face so that was his answer
I think that after he saw his check from UFC 148 he started to realized since his going to have to fight either way then why not just fight big fights that comes with a big check.... Same reason I think his not too exited to have to fight Weidman.
being champ is about being the best and beating the best not makin money thats bullshit
pretty damn sure he already cemented that. and ...this is also done for money. no matter what their name, they all want a bigger paycheck...do you flip burgers cuz you like it ? and want some customer to come back and tell you that was the best burger they ever had...i didnt think so
Shut up.
@ ak4742011542
Yes that, and also signaling that Silva won't fight for that much longer... I did wanna see Weidman go at it, though.
if anderson thought chael was tough fight he def dont want it with weidman and prob wont sign to fight
He said he would fight a LHW to save the event NOT Jones tho!
Oooooooo someone is pissed off about waiting around 4 years to fight GSP
first Jones and now ? when has EVER Silva said he wanted to fight Jones? he has always said he wants super fights yet he has never fight in one. in fact his biggest win in his entire life is/are Belfort/Hendo and they came for him. he said he would fight Roy Jones Jr in Box never happen , he said he would fight at HW vs Frank Mir NEVER happen.
Now he wants GSP oh sure does he wants Ben Henderson nextalso ? i mean they are great fighters and Champions!
Silva is a fake , if he really wanted a challenge he could have fought at 205 years ago with Evans,Rampage,Machida,Shogun, Jones
instead he goes after the smaller fighter GSP.
You're such an idiot. GSP can fight BJ penn two times and it's all good but silva calls out GSP after he claimed he wanted him for years and you're crying your eyes out.
And it's dana white that prevented roy jones from happening, and forced silva to choose between exclusive MW and LHW. But your dumbass is probably blaming jones for cancelling UFC events too
GSP is not much smaller. He has almost the same reach, is only slightly shorter and has more muscle. GSP is about the same size as the guys Silva has been fighting all along. When GSP and AS fight there will be much less of a size discrepancy than there was in Edgar V Maynard III when Frankie KOd Maynard.
3-4 inches isn't slightly shorter. Franklin, Sonnen, Lutter, Leben, Griffin, Irvin, Cote, and Leites are all clearly bigger than GSP. The only guys that can be accurately describes as near to GSP in size are Marquardt and Henderson and both of those guys have fought at higher weight classes their whole careers.
GSP is around 5'10 - 5'11 and rarely walks around above 200 lbs. In training he's around 185-190. That's the average size of any WW.
Opposed to that Silva in camp is around 195-205 depending who you believe. He's also around 220 outside of camp. He is naturally a weight class bigger than GSP.
However, GSP has been the one claiming he was going to move up eventually since 2008 at least. It's on him to make the move already.
Silva said along time ago he would go down to WW long before GSP ever said he would go up. it's on Silva to make the move working by your logic. Catch weight is what they should fight at if they ever do but why Silva is ducking Jones is beyond me. Most fans (not me) regard him as the best and if he did beat Jones even I would eat my words and declare him as the best. Beating GSP proves that he can beat up on someone much smaller and if GSP beats Silva it proves he is nowhere deserving of the accolades he currently enjoys.
If I were Silva I would be begging for Jones. Win lose or draw he'd be seen as a true warrior for taking the fight and a loss to a bigger younger and possibly superior talented Jones is no shame. A loss to GSP destroys his legacy.
The only super fights I want to see is Diaz vs GSP and Jones vs Silva, I am mot interested in watching Silva bullying GSP all over the cage with his size. As my granpa would've said pick someone your own size boy....
Yeah, Silva and Jones are clearly the same size. :p
AS 6'2 JJ 6'4, GSP 5'10, AS walks around 210-220, JJ around 220-230, GSP 185-195. Tell me which ones is a fair fight.
I think Silva and JJ are scared of each other they both think the other guy has what it takes to kick their asses, I want to see that fight and see who was right
Jones said a while back he would fight Silva but after beating Rua Silva invited him to a party and declared them as friends and since then Jones has gone cold on the issue of Silva.
I agree with your first reason but not the second... He's a rich man, especially living in Brazil and doesn't need a big payday... I doubt that concerns him...
I think he has one eye on retirement and wants to cement his legacy, leave no questions unanswered...
MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!
wanting to solidify his legacy before retiring probably!
Solidify his legacy, really? If he hasn't done that yet to you, I'm not sure he'll ever do it.
doesnt do much for me fight weidman or jones not a welterweight we all kno he can beat
you are way out of line there, silva had a hard time with sonnen's wrestling....i believe gsp is harder matchup cuz he's alot faster and willing to bet his wrestling is alot better than jones. Jones have gorilla reach but standing toe to toe with the spider will alway be 99.9% go in spiders favor. I think jones is too slow and therefore will get ko when trying a takedown. GSP's speed and his devastating jab( remember koscheck) will allow him to take silva down and ground and pound. wrestling wise, gsp is a faster sonnen with excellent striking.
it will solidify him as the best there has been a lot of fans seem to think GSP would win, so this fight would silence the haters!
this fight doesnt prove anything other than hed rather fight gsp than a real challenge at 205
He said "to solidify his legacy" which implies that he already cemented his name and secured his legacy............
Must be confident in his takedown defense after that last Chael fight haha. I want to see it go down for sure.
I don't agree Mr. Silva.
If he does beat him then most of the hype from that fight goes away, similar to the Pacman Mayweather situation.
Also if Condit can beat him him then damn.... Silva will kill him - Carlos and Anderson have similar styles (creative Muay Thai, dangerous off their backs, finishing machines and wrestling is their weakness) and while on paper they fight the same, Silva is a lot better at all of the things Carlos does best.
For me the hype has already gone away, but i just want people to stop talking about it. The fight was supposed to happen the day before Fedor fought in the UFC and the day after Jimmy hoffa was found drinking on the beach.
Not sure Silva is better all round than Condit. Never seen Condit get dominated in fights like Silva has.
this is a bad match up, huge size difference. look at this picture of Silva and George and tell me this is a fair fight. link below
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1138&bih=535&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsu&tbnid=odU9vx1yqtsqwM:&imgrefurl=http://georgesaintpierre.com/georges-st-pierre-anderson-silva-side-by-side-photo-eye-opener/&imgurl=http://georgesaintpierre.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/gsp_silva-side-by-side.jpg&w=350&h=656&ei=ob4-UPKRJqavygHojIGoBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=344&vpy=111&dur=294&hovh=309&hovw=165&tx=112&ty=121&sig=108501464971242691267&page=1&tbnh=171&tbnw=92&start=0&ndsp=9&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:79
anyone posting a link that long should be banned
I either click "funny" or "sharp" on all of your posts from now on based on that profile pic.
The important thing to look at in that photo isn't how high their heads are. Look at their reach and build. Reach is almost the same and Georges has the more powerful build. Remember, there are a lot of WWs that are over 6'. In fact, Carlos Condit is the exact same height as Anderson Silva
GSP is much leaner than Anderson. He's also 3-4 inches shorter.
Anderson you are the best!! I admirer your skills and sportsmanship! I believe you will fight GSP... What a match that would be!! You're both amazing, but my heart would be with you!! -Silva Forever-
sound like a ****in homo
This is one of the rare cases, when a homo button should exist.
maybe aaakim is a girl? kim?
y would he fight gsp if he losses that would make no sense at all i dont think he realizes ppl r over that super fight we all wana see him vs jones!!!!!!! step up anderson!!!
that exact thing can be said about why would Jones want to fight Anderson...
No it can't. Jones is a kid and despite being champ is really just starting his career. If he loses to Silva then he just lost to the GOAT and can come back from it. Silva is the only one with anything to lose fighting anyone in the world. I do agree with AK47... though. I would much rather watch Silva destroy Jones than Georges.
If Jones loses to a much older Silva then even if he goes undefeated for the next 15 years after he will still only reach #2 behind Silva.
I really have no problem not seeing that fight, its forcing one of them to lose which doesn't seem fair. The fact that Anderson can meet GSP at a catchweight under 185 and Jones is talking about a potential move to HW tells me they really are in different weights and it should be up to them if they wish to fight each other.
If Gsp was holding the WW belt and Silva the MW strap then the fight would be more marketable to the non mainstream fans. But to those that love MMA and have been following the sport I don't think it matters if Condit pulls the upset. We all have been wanting this super fight to happen and would buy the event either way.
weidman weidman come on anderson fight chris unless u scared bac bac bac bacccc ( chicken noiises)
Yep, the same way he was too afraid to fight Sonnen, Belfort, Henderson, Forrest Griffin etc...Anderson Silva is the only guy who can beat Jon Jones in the UFC. By the way, Chris Weidman, the flavor of the month, would just be another easy fight for A.S.
thats y he wont fight him lol weidman will beat all of those guys u named
Really?
Elaborate please.
@ak47...
"bac bac"... is that what your pet chicken sounds like when you both make love??
Wow! What would a person have to do to be as smart as you?
weidman weidman come on anderson fight chris unless u scared bac bac bac bacccc ( chicken noiises)
weidman weidman come on anderson fight chris unless u scared bac bac bac bacccc ( chicken noiises)
Are you a retard?
yes
to anderson dont b scared homie fight weidman
basicly it doesnt matter if gsp loses cause the ppv will still be the same $$$$ and thats obv wat anderson lookin4 with this fight cause if he wanted to prove he was the best hed keep fightin middleweights instead of ducking them
he not ducking no one.(never has)
whoever weaked this, is a moron
He offered to step in and fight someone but specified NOT Jones. I call that ducking.
Speculation is fine, but there are some people such as AK47... who are speaking as though they know the definitive truth and have the absolute answer.
JJ
GSP
AS
Have taken on the best in their divisions and won. Both GSP and AS have expressed an interest in a "super fight". There is speculation and intrigue about this... This is what a promotion relies on, "conversations, disputes and speculation helps sell tickets".
GSP is a smart guy, with a smart team, he/ they won't be looking past the next fight. Until he has fought CC he/ they won't be seriously considering the matter.
(I have also taken a speculative position - however, contrary to AK47... I'm basing my point on the approach used by GSP and team, as opposed to AK47... who I speculate dreams up his nonsense whilst sitting on the toilet in his caravan.
why dont anderson go up to face jon jones who would be a more fair matchup...
he wouldnt, because its a high risk matchup. gsp would be easy for silva.
jones is already facing MW fighters so why dont put him up against the best MW of all times...
but I dont think even jones would like that one....
would be A GREAT fight though...
why is anderson so into a superfight with gsp right now.... i would say, because he want to retire during the next year and will cement his legacy with a huge boom...a win over the current p4p ranked no 2 guy. and the chance to win this is much bigger then a fight against the other potentiality superfight contender jon jones.
I think we would all love for a superfight to happen such as:
Silva vs Jones
Silva vs Gsp
Edgar vs Aldo
Jones vs Jds
Sounds like Silva wants to fight GSP fresh off his knee injury, thats why he doesnt want carlos in there and let GSP get comfortable with that knee again....just my own conspiracy theory since Anderson has always seemed to vague to me with his mindset.
Eh.....I am nod impress with your perfomans
the only way i see st pierre winning against silva is if he takes him to the ground and lays on him for 25 mins if he can even last that long with him with out getting knocked out or submitted and he'll stll be in a lot of danger of getting submitted on the ground anyway both of them are great fighters but silva is better on the ground and everywhere else except for the wrestling and we all know that
Silva-GSP is a legacy locker for either of them win
a loss to GSP would do little to diminish Silva if he drops weight for it out o f class and all of that
same for GSP a win would be huge and an upclass loss wudn't hurt that much
Silva-Jones is almost a certain loss for Silva and could hurt his legacy unless Jones cleans out LH and then wins the HY
Re: Silva-Jones;
if anyone proposed Silva-dos Santos
or
silva-Velesquez
the boards would light up like a Christmas tree
but Jones is bigger than either of them
and fanboys are chomping to see that one
I woud rather see Jones with Junior or Cain any day than with Silva