Nick Diaz to GSP: Go ahead and take me down, then you have to deal with problems

Posted on March 5, 2013, 10:38 AM by Mike Drahota
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Outspoken UFC Welterweight title challenger Nick Diaz has been somewhat quiet leading up to his UFC 158 fight versus Georges St-Pierre, until now. In a pre-fight interview from UFC.com, Diaz states that he is fine with GSP taking him down, because then the champion will have problems on the ground.

He notes that he believes Georges St-Pierre is crazy for turning down a fight with Anderson Silva, because the only thing he's ever wanted as a fighter was to fight the number one guy.  

The title fight will be one rooted in bad blood, as we've never seen St-Pierre request an opponent, and that will certainly make this card a big draw. Still, most have GSP winning this bout on the strength of his takedowns. What do you think? Don't forget to come back here after the fight, to check out how it went down.


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  • Brasil
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    Complain what you want but the fact is GSP can not finish a slice of pizza so douchbag Diaz is correct when he says going to the ground with him is a bad idea.

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  • Akordas
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    do some sports plz. Im not sure you would be able to finish a girl, when you might consider talking about boys, when about men, and when about competitors, and only when about professionals.

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  • Brian Cox
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    @ Brasil

    As you say that as an ardent Anderson Silva fan, I'll say this as an ardent GSP fan....at least GSP eats high-quality Pizza and even though he may not always finish it, but he eats it frequently. Second time in four months, coming-up and that's after having been out of the restaurant for over a year, due to injury.

    Anderson, on-the-other-hand, gets a great deal of credit for finishing a lot of sub-par Pizza. I mean, some really bad, bad, Pizza, man and even then, he doesn't make it down to the restaurant that frequently to eat it, either...and he's healthy.

    And Nicks' a douche-bag? Man, had me fooled. I thought he was an accomplished fighter of great talent and merit. I should really complain to my cable company, because apparently there's something wrong with my reception on both my TV and Internet.

    Reply 1 year ago
  • dropkickmurphy
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    GSP will have no problems with Diaz's ground game.

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  • Baby Ads
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    i think diaz is a good fighter and has a good chin but i think george will wipp hi a ss smothly. Im sure of that.

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  • apocalypse123
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    Isn't this the same stuff people were saying when GSP fought Shields?

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  • David Saucier
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    Truth why do you always drag A.Silva into things and put him down. Is it because you want to make GSP better than he is.Silva finishes fights, GSP dosnt then he always apologizes after the fight. Also everyone that GSP takes to a decision those same guys get finished by less opponents after they fought GSP

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  • BjjFan
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    MMA Truth, your obsession with Silva is crazy. Let it go. Same **** day in, day out.

    Reply 1 year ago
  • David Saucier
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    Your complain about about his oppenents (I dont think they are better the GSP's opponents) you find a problem with Silva moving up to lhw and fighting bigger guys something GSP has yet to do. You say that his division is the weakest, You complain about how often he fights which is about every 6 months on average, GSP fought every 9 months before his injury, and regarding the super fight between Silva and and GSP you want the fight to be at 170 which would be a insane cut for Silva and he would be at his weakest.

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  • Brian Cox
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    I see much, if not all of that, in a different light. Respectfully, we will simply have to agree-to-disagree.

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  • UnderdogGreatness
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    Silva has been fighting twice a year since 2009, which is pretty good for a non-TRT/steroids user in his mid and late 30's. How often would you want to see him fight?

    Do you know how hard it is for a clean 38 year old fighter to cut weight?

    Why hasn't Georges fought anyone at MW yet? At least guys like Silva and BJP had the guts to challenge bigger guys.

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  • Brian Cox
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    @ UG

    Unfortunately, this is the fight game and very much a business of, what-have-you-done-lately and lately, particularly in his own division, he hasn't done much.

    As to why George hasn't fought larger guys, I have no idea, you should really ask him. I guess, it might be because his division has been rife with legitimate challengers and there was no need to chase fights in lesser divisions. However, I'll concede the point, he could have gone up to 185 and fought people who were either on steroids or average, journeyman fighters who were probably on steroids or a guys who have checked out of the game and are only cashing checks and like to run out of the ring whenever they lose.

    If, however, you are suggesting that he doesn't have the guts to go up to 185 and challenge for The Title, then wouldn't Anderson be guilty of the same gutlessness? For, I don't recall Anderson going up and fighting either Jones, Rua, Machida, Jackson or Liddell.

    And to the best of my knowledge, the only talk we hear of him fighting Jones is @ 197, not 205. So, to me, this whole "guts" argument and whether or not GSP has it, isn't much of an argument.

    GSP has "always" maintained the same case. That he was willing and happy to fight Silva and do so @ 185, but only when he was finished with his division and moving up permanently. As a GSP fan, I apologize to Silva fans everywhere, if they are upset with The 170 Champ's "Process".

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  • UnderdogGreatness
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    Well said, David. It may just be an obsession.

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  • Brian Cox
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    @ David and UG

    I'm not always dragging him in or up and let us be fair, with all the talk of super-fights and comparisons, P4P and all of that, it's fair to do so.

    In this particular instance I did it and as noted, because Brasil is an ardent Silva fan and he's always trashing GSP and all things not Spider. Okay, as a GSP fan i retorted.

    Maybe the two of you should ask Brasil why he always has to trash GSP.

    And to be honest, I'm not putting Silva down. I'm simply stating facts. He has record / win streak is peppered guys who are not and never were top ten or five, anything and he hasn't defended his belt and will not defend his belt, in anything short of a year. Taking into account camp time.

    Is there anything in that which is not true?

    In terms of GSP, I would direct you to the comment I posted below, regarding my expectations of him in this fight. And no David, I do not need to drag Anderson down, to build GSP up. That would be the act of a child. I am and was, simply defending my fighter. That is all and in doing so, I took a couple of shots at Brasil favorite fighter, which happens to be Anderson and I did so, respectfully. I didn't call him any names or anything. I certainly didn't call him a douche-bag, which is what Brasil called Nick Diaz.

    What I posted was fair-dinkum. The problem is, IMO, that Silva fans hate hearing "any" criticisms of Their Great Fighter and he is Great. You won't see me posting otherwise. However, am I not allowed to point out the flaws and particularly do so, in defense of My Great Fighter?

    Come on guys. Fair-dinkum.

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  • David Saucier
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    Thats just how it appears Truth, if we are going to be fair why dont you spend and words pointing out GSP's flaws. For the sake of fairness

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  • Brian Cox
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    @ David

    GSP lacks power. His finishing rate is not what it should be for a Champion, IMO. He's not aggressive enough, when creates an opportunity. He has to get over this crap in his head, that finishing a fight by way of cut (elbows) is not a good win or the way to win. He needs to grow a set of nuts when it comes to breaking peoples bones. His kicks are not devastating enough. He seems to be too nice and lacks a killer instinct. His G 'n P is not brutal enough. His ground game seems to have stagnated. His spinning back-kick is not that great.

    Does that suffice or would you like each point fleshed out in its own paragraph?

    And to be fair David, I'm always fair. Certainly fairer than most.

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  • David Saucier
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    Touche truth
    NIce assesment, I appreciate your honesty. I think GSP's biggest problem is mentally he was finishing fights and much more aggressive before Serra KO'd him. He neesd to get away from Jackson's game plays and fight to win, not fight to not lose.

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  • Brian Cox
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    @ David

    Does that mean that I can expect a similar inventory, regarding Silva's flaws or a reasonable criticism of (some) of the lesser talent he has faced or failed to engage, in The Octagon, because and lets be fair, The Boss has never walked up to GSP's corner post fight and said...."you, put it on him" nor has GSP ever been rebuked publicly by The Boss for a performance, which White has, regarding Silva.

    Fair-dinkum, David.

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  • David Saucier
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    I try to be fair with all fighters, I don't hate many guys nor do i hate GSP, I do hate the way he chooses to fight though simply because i know he can finish people. Regarding Silva's opponents I don't think they were noticeably weaker than GSP's opponents. So I dont have anything negative to say in that area. The only bad fight Silva had was Maia, and he was toying with him. The Leitis fight was all on Talas he kept flopping to his back.

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  • Brian Cox
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    @ David

    I never said you hated him, but and at the same time, how can you say you don't hate a fighter, when you say hate the way he chooses to fight? Other than fighting, what other criteria would we really be considering for liking or disliking a fighter, other than the way he fights. If you hate the way he fights, then do you not hate him as a fighter?

    In terms of your "negatives" list for Anderson, it doesn't amount to much of one. Can we not make note of his wrestling for example?

    In terms of his Maia or Leitis, those fights were bad because of Maia and Leitis? No blame on Anderson? Respectfully, if Anderson is the walking God that he's purported to be, then why didn't he engage Maia and Leites, as opposed to waiting on them to play his game?

    It just seems to be that there's a clear double-standard here, where GSP is safe and Anderson is daring and when I compare the actual challenges faced, maybe GSP is the better fighter, because to be honest, other than Henderson, Okami, Sonnen and Belfort, I don't think his other opponents were up to snuff.

    Either way, I'm sure it will all work itself out sometime this calendar year, when Anderson finally makes an appearance @ 185. That should only be another four or five months, away. Not long to wait, now.

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  • Akordas
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    Does Chael wrote a speech to him?
    He really sounds like very intellegent person.

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  • Michael Stephensen
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    Be careful what you wish for Nick.

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  • Evan Holober
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    I love you Nick.

    But no, GSP won't have any problems with you on the ground.

    He's damn right about GSP not training with anybody better in boxing though. If GSP plans to box with him, then he is ripe for the upset.

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  • KeithFarrell
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    I sort of agree with you but only if you replace "box with him" with "brawl with him". If Diaz gets in his face and starts unloading the body head combos then it could be his fight without a doubt and especially if it's along the fence but if it's on the outside I think GSP will use his athleticism to stick that stiff jab right in Diaz's face and use that superman jab combo.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Won't work.

    KJ Noons is/was ten times the straight boxer GSP is when they fought a second time, and Nick straight up out-boxed him (although in a close match). Nick's combination of reach, accuracy, chin, gas tank, and ability to understand range would make even a pot shotting match between the two a terrible night for Georges.

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  • azzkika
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    Condit outstruck Diaz by miles and GSP outsruck Condit. Of course we all know MMA math doesn't follow logically like that as styles often determine fights. GSP is going to trade with Diaz, mark my words and he's going to drop him and finish him with TKO or submission.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Condit outstruck Diaz by inches. If you think that outstriking him by single digits in every round but one is miles, well than your conspiracy speech garbage starts to make more sense.

    Besides, the lingo used was boxed. Not struck.

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  • KeithFarrell
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    People probably said the same going in to the Alves fight but the threat of the takedowns combined with GSP's striking ability made the stand up a one-sided affair in favour of the champ.

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  • Evan Holober
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    And what did GSP do to Alves multiple times before the striking game took over...

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  • KeithFarrell
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    GSP trains with Freddy Roach who is perhaps the best boxing coach in the world but Diaz for sure spars with higher level guys - Diaz spars with Andre Ward and there is probably only 3 or 4 human beings on the planet that could be classed as higher level training partners than Ward.
    Unfortunately for Diaz, this isn't a boxing match and GSP will not treat it like one.
    Something interesting is that most of Nick's recent wins have been against guys who are only interested in boxing with him (BJ, Daley, Noons) and the guys who kickbox seem to do very well against him - Condit beat him and Cyborg was doing good until he gassed, got rocked and subbed.

    What I'm trying to point out is if you go in there and simply trade punches with Diaz, you will likely lose.
    If you go in there and use technical punches with a lot of kicks your chances shoot up and then add in takedowns with excellent sub D and you are going to have a replay of Bendo vs. Nate Diaz.
    Funnily enough, GSP has a history of doing the things I listed above.

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  • BjjFan
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    ^^ what he said

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  • jdnextchamp
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    The problem is that not only does GSP train with boxing coaches like Freddie Roach, Howard Grant and Stephane Larouche, he also spars with some guy named LUCIAN BUTE!!! Bute is probably as good as Ward. So I would say GSP's sparring partners are as good as Diaz' and his trainers are even better. Boxing training advantage: GSP.

    But this sport isn't only about boxing. There's also Muay Thai. GSP trains 3/4 times a week with Lamsongkram and master Yod. He's also helped by Biga MT, Kru phil nurse and he brings so many better guys than him in his camp. Muay Thai/kickboxing training advantage: GSP.

    And that's just the standup...

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  • jdnextchamp
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    And btw Diaz was outstuck by Condit, dropped by Daley (twice I think?) and dropped once by Zaromskis. I agree GSP doesn't have the same power Daley possesses but he certainly be able to tag him with some good shots

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  • KeithFarrell
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    I'm not saying Lamsongkram isn't a brilliant striker but saying he is the Wayne Gretsky or kickboxing is ludicrous.
    I think the late Ramon Dekkers would be a much better candidate for that title.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Bute is no where near Carl Froch. Let alone Andre Ward.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Oh, and GSP has great training but Diaz has trained with Virgil Hunter routinely and Robert Garcia (two guys who Amir Khan and JLC jr. are currently leaving Freddie Roach for). Diaz has also been training with Ward, Henry (RIP), and other exceptional boxers for close to 5 years now. Boxing training advantage is overwhelmingly Diaz.

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  • jdnextchamp
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    I agree Bute isn't as good as Ward, but the difference isn't that enormous. Bute is arguably N°5, and IMO N°3.

    And sorry for my lack of knowledge about who left who to train with who, I didn't know about that. Anyways, at the end of the day, Muay Thai is much better than boxing in mma, nobody can argue on that. And GSP has the best MT.

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  • Evan Holober
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    I still think your off on the rankings, but that's no big deal.

    I was simply trying to state the positions strictly in terms of boxing. IMO, you're dead on about Muay Thai. That and takedowns being added in makes Diaz an incredibly large UD .

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  • KeithFarrell
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    Some great knowledge dropped on us there! I'm not a boxing nut so I wouldn't argue to the death about it but I haven't seen Bute on much P4P lists while Ward is pretty much universally ranked top 7 and regularly ranked top 4.

    Yea no doubt GSP has better kickboxing training with Tristar's new and seemingly good relationship with Lam and Yod.
    Kind of annoying though that Firas keeps saying Lam is like the greatest kickboxer ever, he's not even anywhere near the best Muay Thai fighter! At one point he was denied a license to fight because he had been KO'd so many times in row.

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  • GianGiacommo G
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    He said that he got right,when did this happened sir? not to long ago you were leaving the production&camera crews high&dry,it has always been your way,don't return Dana's calls,texts or emails(Dana says so) the pulled you out out of your last scheduled bout with GSP because you don't want to play the game,so once again when was it that you "got right Nick?

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  • PukeVomit
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    i think diaz has a really good chance on the ground. his bjj is high level!

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  • Hurricane2k
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    Gps wil win this fight .. he is going to tosss diaz in the air just like rory macdonald did to his brother : ) !

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    I believe this fight is tailor-made for GSP to get his first finish in quite some time. As a GSP fan, should he not get it, I will be, for the first time, disappointed. I think Rush needs more than just a win, here. I think he needs to make a statement by finishing Diaz. I believe he will.

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    I think he will finish Diaz also but how many times has Diaz been finished in the last few years? We can't detract from GSP if he fails to finish because he fights the highest level of opponents. It's like criticising Aldo because he didn't finish Edgar. Now if GSP started fighting chumps and still wasn't finishing then yes there'd be some questions but the fact he dominates consistently so many top grade fighters is testament to the man's skill and ability.

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  • UnderdogGreatness
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    I hope you're right, Diaz, because I'm about to take you to win that fight. Get Safety Plus (GSP) may just get submitted after all. If he stands with Diaz, he'll probably end up getting his face reconstructed.

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  • KeithFarrell
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    Get Safety Plus?....... that might be the worst troll attempt I've ever seen

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  • kungfurule
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    Both GSP and Anderson Silva fight safe, by that I mean the try to take the fight to were their strengths are. GSP fights more dangerous opponents and has a different style than Anderson hence all the decisons, yes he plays it safe but wouldn't you for 5 million dollars per fight? Anderson as we all know fights lesser skilled opponents (185 just isn't as stacked as 170) if Anderson fought the same level of opponents as GSP he would go to decision more. for ex if Anderson is just so good why couldn't he finish Damian Mia and his rudimentary striking, because on the ground Anderson is vulnerable and he played it safe, same with Leites. As well look at his Lee Murray fight arguable the only striker fast enough or good enough to hurt him what do you get? a decision. What I am saying is these guys balance the risk and rewards and adjust their style accordingly they play it safe as much as they can considering their own style and their opponents style and skill, when they are making millions at the top, or trying to get to the top, they are not going to gamble with the chance to make that income. This makes sense from a rational point of view which is often missing in our emotional reaction to sporting events.

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    @ Kung-Fu

    ... when they are making millions at the top, or trying to get to the top, they are not going to gamble with the chance to make that income."

    My argument as to why Hendricks should have sat and waited out the winner of GSP / Diaz.

    Big risk, with little reward.

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  • Evan Holober
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    Rec'd.

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  • silvaisking2321
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    Leites fall to guard everytime silva would engage him.....

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  • KeithFarrell
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    Anderson chooses safe fights?
    What would you say is a bad match up for Silva:

    BJJ expert? Thales Leites lost so...
    BJJ World Champion? Demian Maia lost so...
    One of the best BJJ players EVER? Travis Lutter was subbed by Anderson so...
    A great grappler who stiffles all his opponents? Okami was destroyed so...
    How about Olympic Wreslter? Chael Sonnen was finished twice so...
    A Olympic Wrestler with unbelievable knockout power? Hendo was owned so...
    Striker with super fast hands and crazy KO power? Belfort got embarassed so...
    One of the best MWs ever? Rich Franklin got ragdolled twice so...

    Hopefully you get the point.

    I think the only easy match-ups Silva has had is the LHW fights but apart from those nearly every Middleweight fight was supposedly a bad match-up for him or against someone he was ducking yet he eventually tok the fight and destroyed his opponent.
    Now he is probably going to fight Weidman who is supposedly a terrible match-up for Silva, he is even warming up to fighting Jon Jones.

    Give respect to the GOAT

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  • David Saucier
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    yes!

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  • Evan Holober
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    He never said Anderson chooses safe fights. He said Anderson fights safe (as in he keeps the fight where he feels most safe). He also said Anderson has fought lesser skilled opponents, which is definitely debatable.

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    @keith I agree I didnt say that anderson and GSP PICK safe fights I said they FIGHT safely in response the fact GSP rarely finishes theses days. The point is that the WW division is more stacked than 185, AS is amazing so is GSP but I am saying these two amzing fighters both exercise a certain caution when they can bc huge amounts of cash are on the line however GSP has to exercise more caution given that his division is more dangerous and his style lends itself more to decisions, which AS given his style takes advantage of when he can, i suppose what I am saying is that neither one throws caution to the wind like Nick Diaz or other fighters again because being at the Top means more income its pretty easier to understand, peace

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  • Def_tac
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    GSP wil fight his fight. Dana will not look for GSP's best interest he will look at his own. GSP is a smart fighter. Respect !!!

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  • Brasil
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    @MMA. I think GSP is one of the gratest talents to ever step in the cage.... For lack of a better word he is AWESOME but i deal with facts....after the Serra ko he is figthing not to lose....i want to see him take a chance, risk, fulfill his potential.... So the current reality is he cant finish a glass of water..... Also Nick is a douch imo, i guess you forgot what he did to all the fans that paid to see him figth Estima on that bjj tournament....i didnt.

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  • Brian Cox
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    @ Brasil

    I don't see how you can call him awesome and then comment about the Matt Serra fight and not being able to finish a glass of water.

    On the one hand, you wish to reference a dated fight from 2008, while on the other hand, you wish to give him for no credit for dated finishes. He's also had one finish since (Penn), as well as the absolute destruction of Josh Koscheck's face. Which, IMO, was a finish, for the ring doctor failed to do his job, by allowing JK to continue the fight.

    And lets be honest, if we wish to go through the record book, do you really want to stand here and defend some of Anderson's performances or some of the talent he's faced?

    And as far as Nick goes, if you're holding that (what you noted) as the reason to hate or dislike a fighter, then you really need to let that go. Learn a little forgiveness. Nick might be surly, difficult and a whole bunch of different things, but he's a great fighter and he's the type of personality that The UFC could use more of, not less. He sells. He gives the fans something to chew on. Most fighters, including GSP and Anderson Silva, are woeful in that department.

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  • codemaster
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    I remember great fighters like Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard going to decisions a lot--but there was rarely any doubt they won and dominated their fights.

    There is more than one kind of fighting style which is great. Anderson has his style, GSP has his, Cain, Aldo, Cruz, Johnson--they all have different but great styles which which consistently win fights against opponents of varying skillsets.

    One characteristic of GSP;s fights are consistent **********--standing, on the ground or against the cage. Ironically, those very same people who say GSP is boring are also saying in so many words that no opponent can even cause GSP enough distress to make the fight anything but one-sided. Their very complaints trumpet GSP's dominance of his weight class.

    Also, you can go to a decision and still be totally beaten up and soundly defeated. Look at the photos of GSP's opponents after his fights--like Fitch or Alves--those weren't pitter patter punches, and that G'nP was not lay n' pray.

    GSP is not Anderson Silva, and will never be--but he is a great fighter in his own right, and in his own very effective style.

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  • IChokePeople
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    Nick is dangerous enough standing and on the ground to finish Georges but I think the safe money is on GSP winning via decision... again.

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    GSP will take Nick down punch him a few times, let him up then punch him a few time then repeat the action. Win by decision and remain the champion and that's all that matters. Win boring is ALWAYS better than losing excitingly.

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    Was the Condit fight boring? No
    Was the Koscheck fight boring? No
    Was the Hardy fight boring? No
    Was the Alves fight boring? No
    Was the Penn fight boring? No
    Was the Fitch fight boring? No
    Was the Serra II fight boring? No
    Was the Hughes III fight boring? No

    The Shields fight wasn't really exciting I agree but I watched every GSP PPV since he regained the title (and the interim) and I really enjoyed watching it live. I also went to UFC 154 and I must say that it was the best fight I had seen in a long time.

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    @jds GSP could have done more in the Kos, Fitch and Alves fights to finish but I agree I found them all super fun to watch at the time.
    I can understand not everyone appreciating the skill he shows though, for me I enjoy watching the dominance but it's not everyone's cup of tea

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  • jdnextchamp
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    Finally an intelligent human being.

    But humm, how could he have done more against Fitch?

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  • jdnextchamp
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    GSP meant that his own sparring partners were better than Diaz.
    Diaz understood that GSP said he was better than his own (Diaz') partners.

    In french the meaning is different

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    War Diaz........

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