Jason Miller vs. Ariel Helwani II: Lucky Patrick, Arrest, Life Outside MMA

please start posting something constructive once in a while ajichiban

A bag of mystery colored skittles a week, its not much but satisfies your taste buds

Hey, I'd be interested in that offer. Seriously. I write.

Can't you give him it to not write anything ever?

I'm glad he apologised but the fact he does it by admitting he was in character and then going on to seriously say he is good actor... just wow. Mayhem might not be insane but he is still not 100% right.



What I got from this interview was a showing of the real Mayhem - one who seems like a decent guy but is a major attention whore (the screaming and then jumping on benches).

Joke or not I'll never get over the MMA Hour stunt, 100% tasteless garbage.



Ahwell at least he isn't unstable or anything and seems to be doing okay in life that's what matters.

Have to disagree Keith, he didn't come off as an attention whore at all to me. Some of the stuff he said, about how tough the sport is on the body ect was refreshing to hear, most fighters are too caught up in the whole tough-guy shtick to ever admit to any sort of vulnerability. Also, the fact that the UFC acted shady about paying for his knee surgery is disappointing but not entirely surprising. Dana can be a really vindictive bitch at times.

Just wanted to ask, did anyone else get the feeling Mayhem was actually lying a couple of times?

When he said he did take a vacation and he could only remember one of the places he went? Surely you remember where you went on holiday a couple of months ago..



There was another instance too but if he was lying that;s pretty lame.

Anyone else feel it?

yeah, I had the same impression. even though he might not have been totally honest he seems like a good guy and I'm glad he actually didn't completely lose his mind.

makes u think on his Evan Tanner comments

Great interview. Ariel really annoys me sometimes but he is on to something with these going for a walk interviews. Makes people forget they are being interviewed.



Mayhem had some valid points but I think he is also full of $h1t. I think he made a lot of that interview up cos his gimmick was not well recieved. He didn't go travelling! He couldn't even say where he went.



He also said he didn't mean for Dana to die, just his persona. It's just bull$sh1t, weird bull$h1t.



It's true what he said about the sport being corporate-ised and losing it's soul, and also about mma fans being mean.......the d1ck!

This was a great interview. Mayhem talking about the things fighters go through, like the stuff about k-soz really gives pause for thought. A lot of these guys pay an incredibly heavy price for our entertainment.

This was a great interview. Mayhem talking about the things fighters go through, like the stuff about k-soz really gives pause for thought. A lot of these guys pay an incredibly heavy price for our entertainment.

Can anyone name a fight that took place in the last year that was more embarrassing than Bisping vs. Mayhem? I'd love to see what that looks like just for grins and giggles.

None of what he says seems plausible in the least bit.



I'm the first one at this site to champion fighter pay, and equal rights for fighters. However, the evidence does not coincide with anything Jason says. He tries to say Zuffa's UFC doctor didn't want to pay to fix him, yet just last month Dennis Hallman missed weight and couldn't fight, and was still paid his show and win money. He also talks about how he's a cog in the wheel of Zuffa's promotional machine yet disregards the fact that he called out every single top contender alive for years while he was outside the UFC. Then there's the whole situation in the church that makes zero sense using his explanation of just being there in a robe.



He's using seperate situations to try and gain support for his own odd exit from MMA. It's garbage, and it attempts to throw the blame on everybody but himself.



Lastly, anybody with half a brain knew the "act" Mayhem put on was exactly that. That wasn't the problem. The sad part about it was it wasn't funny or any good, and he threw a tantrum while still in character because it didn't go over in the slightest.

The way Zuffa treats you seems to have a whole lot to do with what your relationship is like with the bosses as well as your profile as a fighter etc. It is completely plausible that they would decide to screw over a fighter that they neither like nor see value in.



As for the church thing, whose version do you then believe then, TMZ's? Whatever happened there, he's being charged with misdemeanor vandalism, why on earth are we even wasting time dissecting a relatively minor incident?

Yea, they must hate him. He came in and got a spot coaching in their flagship franchise (when it actually still drew decent ratings) after basically being on the bench for a year. Not to mention this is after he was released from the company the first time 7 years ago after he was charged with domestic violence. For a guy with such a terrible relationship with Zuffa they sure gave him a big opportunity, and a sizable contract.



Wasting time dissecting the incident? The only reason its being "dissected" is because Mayhem keeps giving completely out of this realm explanations. He throws out BS like "that's between me and my preacher", and "all I did was knock over CDs". Really? If it was just him being caught naked (or with a robe on) inside a church then why were the cops called? What the hell was he even doing there in the first place? It might be a bit of a minor charge, but a story about a guy with the popularity of Miller being caught in a church in the middle of the night (naked or not) is going to bring in headlines.



"As for the church thing, whose version do you then believe then, TMZ's?"



Them, Huffington Post, Newsday, yahoo, and a few others. Is everybody else just "trying to get" Mayhem too?

When was he charged with domestic violence? The only incident I'm aware of is the thing with his sister and if I remember right, he was never formally charged with anything.



As for his relationship with Zuffa, are you suggesting it was or is good? Dana talked a ton of shit about him after the Bisping fight, most of which wasn't warranted. Yes, Mayhem didn't look good in that fight, but it's kinda unusual to talk about cutting someone after just one loss, especially when they've just given your shitty reality show a shot in the arm. If it wasn't for the reaction of fans, Miller would probably have been cut after the Bisping fight.



As for the church incident, once again, who cares? Even if Mayhem says UFOs were involved, what exactly is the big deal? It's not like he's being charged with anything serious, if the charge is misdemeanor vandalism to begin with, he'll probably plead out and do a few hours of community service or something. Not exactly the end of the world. As for people suggesting that the church incident indicates some major drug use or psychological issue (which seems to be the reason most people are discussing it), he seemed a lot more sane in this interview than a bunch of UFC fighters currently on the roster typically appear.

If sane is completely passing every life problem you have on something or somebody else then yes, that was sane.



No, I'm not suggesting that it was good. What I am suggesting is that fighters having a less than stellar relationship with Zuffa/Dana have been taken care of on the way out before. Dennis Hallman was the subject of Dana's Ire when he wore the speedos to the ring. He also missed weight in every attempt at 155 he made. However, not only did Zuffa pay him his show money this past month (which they weren't oblgated to do after him missing weight and not fighting), they gave him his win money also. Now all we have is Mayhem's word that Zuffa did him dirty when it comes to him getting his contract enforced healthcare (something he could sue for which any decent lawyer would have told him)? I don't buy it. It doesn't add up.



You're thinking of the time in 2011. In 2006 Miller was released from the UFC because he kicked in his GF's (at the time) door, and beat up a guy that was inside. He was charged with domestic violence, and the guy he beat up later dropped the charges so he was acquitted. Similar to the situation in 2011 with his sister except here it was much more than a head lock. And the UFC released him for it.



Now I'm not bringing this stuff up because I think he's a felon that deserves to be put away, nor am i trying to say that he got away with commiting crimes. What I'm trying to say is a guy that keeps getting in trouble with the law (not to mention the rumored incidents back stage at UFC and other MMA related events) is the last person I'm going to take at his word.

ajichiban: You're an idiot.



Evan: You are one vicious motha. I think Mayhem does indeed have some mental issues, he was trying hard to appear calm and likeable but that might not really the truth. About UFC's policies and Dana White's business, some of what Mayhem said could be true, we have certainly seen some of it already in other situations where sketchy and unfair deals are going down. About the church incident, he clearly does not want to come clean with what really happened, it may be truly embarrassing after all.

C'mon, vicious!? I'm not trying to be.



I completely agree about what you say about the UFC policies, and I have tried to call them out at length on them in the past. I just don't see any justification for it to be used as an excuse here.

ajichiban, I kinda like that you're calling out the keyboard commandos cause it's funny, but you're doing the same thing in the process.



Just sayin . . .

Anyone who gets arrested in a church is mentally ill.



If Mayhem got arrested fighting drunk in a club it would be a whole different story.



He has lost the plot with his conspiracy stories

Evan, I think you are missing the point a little.

Zuffa cut Hallman for missing weight.

The money was used as a sweetener because Hallman had family issues.

Dana did`nt want to look like a meanie.