Greg Jackson: I will not say a bad thing about Dana White, I respect him

Completely agree with Jackson here. It is insane to demand that a champion defend his belt against a new opponent on the extreme minimum preparation time of 3 days, against a guy who doesn't deserve the shot at all! It is HUGE risk and extremely little reward.



It isn't a matter of being selfish. The UFC messed up when they made this card so incredibly weak that the loss of the main event meant it was completely irrelevant.

Exactly, people have to understand this NOW SPORT is evolving and more professionalism, more money, sponsors are involved. When you're a huge champ like Jones you wanna do things seriously in order to keep winning. Winning thanks to your preparation. Physical, strategic and mental preparation. These bloody tough gladiator days who would fight instantly for 10 dollars are over. I advised the fans who feel nostalgic to play those old VHS tapes again and cry.



Like most fighters would say "it is what it is"

I got some of those old tapes with a couple ufc's on them per tape like ufc 22 road to Tito, just sounds weird saying lol

Lowkick dodger,



You are not a fighter, yet you know what most fighters would say. Do you work with many fighters? Are you a sports psychologist?



Thanks for the clarification.

Odesa

lol I got some of these tapes just not the tito one, you know my love for tito...



We, fans, got to keep in mind that MMA became an almost legitimate sport thanks to softening the aspect of it inside and outside the cage. Dana white should make up his mind. Insulting his favorite fighter cause he doesn't want to take a fight against a WWE Character who talks his way into a title fight by talking shit is NOT gonna help this sport to be taken seriously.

I never thought about Chael helping Dan train and being in shape from it as well as knowing the footage and game plan on Jones already. Chael did have more going for him in this fight then what I thought

There's a pretty big difference between sparring with a teammate to help that teammate get ready for a fight vs preparing for a fight yourself. For Jackson to suggest that Chael was in fight shape because he was training with Dan is more than a wee bit disingenuous.



This kind of stuff is not that uncommon from Greg however; in his interview with Mauro yesterday he talked about how he has no idea about the promotional side of the game etc and is just focused on the technical aspects of the fight game. This from the same guy who was instructing Jones to 'go get some fans'. Further Greg claimed ignorance about the fact that the even was getting cancelled, however Dana made it pretty clear that Jones was informed that failing to take the Sonnen fight would result in cancellation of UFC 151. One would presume that while discussing the merits of taking the Sonnen fight with his camp, Jones would have passed on this rather important piece of information to his coaches.

Well, David, thats right but also (this is hard for me to give to the Chael haters) who's to say that Chael and Hendo didn't know about the injury a week or two ago and kept it quiet to give Chael a little head start before the offer?



Don't think Chael's sneaky enough to pull that off?

Yeah, also think about the fact that Chael probably knew about Dans injury before anyone else did.



Think its a coincidence that he jus stepped up the trash talk with Jones for the last week or 2?

Thats true,,that explains why Chael called up Dana asking that he would step in to fight Jon.....



all pretty we calculated......

Knowing Chael he probably hurt Dan for his own potential benefit ;)

according to Dana himself didnt say specifically to Jones that the event would be canceled he just said Jon knew the options

yeah that is pretty chicken s&^t to even tell Jon if you dont take this fight, we are going to cancel the whole card...



THat is weak in the part of Dana...

I agree with you and Jackson as well but unless your hating on Jones you will get weaked for making sense :)

ya dana blaming it on jones he out his mind he mad cause chael wouldv made him good money and he dont care bout the fighters

Dana is only blaming it on Jones because he's a genius marketer - tell millions of people the event was canceled because of Jones and you got millions of people who want to see Jones get his ass kicked next fight.



Negative promotion sells more than positive. Just like negative news in the media.

Maybe so Moots, I won't disagree with your point but the last sentence in that story smacks of damage control and false "taking-the-high-road) for purposes of PR repair.

As far as the headline goes I have a feeling Greg is lying considering a photo from his gym was tweeted yesterday, which showed a picture of chael sonnen in the urinal in the bathroom

Jones is a bytch if you talk chit pretty much call a guy out... tell him he fights like a kid ,.. has no skill .. worthless ..plus been training to fight a guy with similar styles... the guy u talked shiyt about just moved up in weight very lil training and is fighting for free cause you (Jones) ran ur mouth he said Ok lets do it and now it to early but take a fight like two weeks later against a guy u already beat ... ...ohhh and money wise was headlining the fight and now you wont be tons of money lost along with alll the other fighter that lose money cause had to cancel the card..........if thats not bithc made not sure what is...true champ is like GSP who says bring it on im the Champ and can beat anyone so lets do it

i understand your opinion, but i think a true champion should never decline a fight.

In the good ol' days, the PRIDE days. There where tournaments. Fighters didn't get the chance to make up a strategy, scout their opponent or work on his/her weakpoints. That's what makes a great martialartist in my opinion. You'l fight any one at any time. If you are good, you don't need to know what your oponent is weak at you still whoop azz.



In Finland they had Finn fight, the inofficial scandinavian championships. I had to go 4 fights in one night, and I didn't know who 'd I'd fight next if I one a fight. Sure you knew who was in your weight class, but you could only guess who would win the fights and continue in the tournament.



You just stepped in the ring no matter who was in the other corner and gave it your all. You had to relay on your skills not the weakness of the other guy.

COMPLETELY AGREE!!!

All the hater have weaked you who dont care or know about professionalism.

Dana doesnt have his facts straight...Chael has been training with Hendo and helping him prepare for Jon. So the way Dana says Cahel hasnt been training is complete crap. Even considering the option to gove Chael the chance for the title is joke. All the sensible fans have probably lost all respect for Dana and his finger pointing. Dana has to look in the miror when he is pointing the finger to Jon that with the same hand he has 3fingers pointing at himself for failing to put together a good card and ultimately canceling the card.

quick make fun of my "your" grammer mistake

Like the decision or not, I think Greg Jackson is showing a lot of class here unlike Dana White.

Dana and class are just like water and oil, they just don't mix.

Is that the way you see it?



Sure seems like every time Jackson gets put on the spot he plays his political correct persona.

He's not going to start firing shots back and forth with Dana - remember Dana can make Jackson Disappear - Dana is the prez and ya Jackson has got a lot of good guys on his team but he doesn't want to be on Dana's hit list.



Dana and Jackson are both just arguing over their money.



Jackson doesn't want his gift horse to lose and hence lose his pay and Dana doesn't care about fighters he just wants exciting fights that grows his business.

Who knows maybe Jackson wants another training camp - probably gets paid for each one.

In the end Jones made the right decision for himself - even though he will most likely be considered puss from here on out no matter how many fights he wins.

If Belfort falls short I hope he exposes Jones and Machida runs through him .

Well, if you shake them really hard they kinda mix for a little while but technically it's just an emulsion of Dana and Class

Dana does not even know how to spell class... He is effin rich mofo doesn't need class hes the Baldfather

he has class but on respect... well that's a one way street regarding Jackson

Actually, he spelled it properly in that "Class" action suit he started against his mother.

bullshit!! he is a great trainer, but he's making mma boring. first he had condit run from nick diaz in the cage and steal the title unipressively. then we had the clay guida incident. and now after iv'e told everybody how badass jon jones is and how nobody in the world may not be able to beat him, he pusses out to chael sonnen. i remember when vanderlei silva and mark hunt had there fights cancelled due to injuries of their opponents in pride. so they decided to fight each other with a 40plus pound differnce. that show a lot of ball on both sides since silva was the scariest man in the world at the time and mark hunt was not an easy knockout for anybody. with that said, if dana didn't put on such shitty shows, they would sell ppv even when your pussy ass primadona champion doesn't want to break his nails.

You forgot how borning he turned guida as well!

I remember Dana saying "How can people say a card sucks before the fights even happen?" Well Dana, you certainly have contridicted yourself there, if you can only judge a fight card after the fights, why cancel the event before you know if the fights would of delivered or not? He obviously knew the fight card sucked. (Sorry if this doesn't make sense it was hard to put it in writing!)

boooom! In your face Dana.



I agree man its not Jons fault the card was so bad his fight was the only thing selling it.

A trainer should be the last guy to doubt your fighter's skills. Jon Jones has been in training camp getting ready to fight in 8 days - he should already be in shape and ready for anything and Greg Jackson should be the first guy to show confidence in his what Bones can do to Chael. Isn't the point of having a training camp is to get your fighter ready for anything? They don't really know what Hendo will bring come fight night so he should be preparing his fighter for anything possible. So what if Chael knows the gameplan or whatever. He is just helping Hendo and should be nowhere close in shape as to Bones is. What a joke!

Gregs playing the nice guy card. He has a lot more to lose with Dana than Dana has with him.

He hoping by doing this Dana will feel bad later or apologize. WONT happen. Dana never liked Greg and still hates his ass. Me included. I bet at least 20 percent of the non engaging, running away fights come directly from his camp.

So now Chael IS a risk!?!?!? You Bones nut-nuggers can't tell your elbow from your as*hole...

Yes, because the whole argument was based on Chael not being "risky" or not.

At least you're a self-confessed one, Even.

*a*

Careful he'll pull his "logic: "facts" card on you.

Apparently, those are foreign things to you.

Far from it. I just look at logic, and don't jump to conclusions.

I agree with Dave. Best comment so far.

Evan, I searched the entire thread to find "Dave" and couldn't find it. Where is the Dave comment?

Main wall earlier today.

Thats illogical.

No its not.

I think Jon should have taken the fight just out of respect to the fans he was trained and ready to fight cheal wasn't but he wanted to step up for free that takes balls that's something a real fighter would do that what this sport is supposed to be about to guys who aren't afraid of one and other who go out and fight and it's not like cheal is a completely different fighter than Hendo still the same strengths good right hand and good wrestling it shouldn't have been too much of a change but Jackson just got scared cause they werent gonna be able to come up with some elaborate game plan which to me almost makes it alittle boring to make a plan where you go out and dance around and do just enough to win its a fight you should be able to just fight and win not have to stratagis so much

Seriously, Gregg Jackson looks exactly like That Yellow Bastard from Sin City.

Yes....play it safe and dont say anything bad about your boss.....sorry....forgot you always play it safe....

hahahaa Brazil, you nailed it.

You're both on today boys.

What's in those muffins anyways? Did you get 'em from Nick?

lmao, Think I know how this went down maybe. Muffin typed, said oops, then fell a sleep while correcting, then woke up and forgot what he was saying in the first place! 8P

I disagree with Greg on one point. Jones did not have three or eight days to prepare. He had an entire training camp. The only differences between Henderson and Sonnen are that Sonnen will be more aggressive in looking for the take down and doesn't have Henderson's KO power. Both of these things work in Jones' favor as he would have a huge edge on the ground and could strike with abandon because of it. The only guy who can claim any kind of short notice in this is Chael. I agree that this was not a good fight to take but the short notice thing is a blatant excuse.

That's not exactly accurate though. Chael fights from the southpaw stance, and has much better wrestling at this point of their careers (between him and Henderson). He also has much better top control when you compare the two recently (which would let Jones strike about as much as fighting a guy with big power)..



That said I don't believe much of what Jackson is saying. I don't believe he sees Sonnen as that big of a threat, and I don't believe the show of not holding ill will towards Dana. I think Greg holds a lot of animosity towards White as well as Zuffa (and anybody else who has publicly chided him), and I think he cares little about Zuffa's promotional plans/problems. I think he was more than happy to tell Jones to say "**** it".

Well said.

First of all, it was not a good idea fighting Chael Sonnen on short notice. It is also true that Dan Henderson backing out of the bout due to injury is not Jon Jones fault. It is also very clear that a card which relies upon only one bout for its appeal is an accident waiting to happen.



In the past, the UFC has scheduled contender bouts on the same card--a very wise insurance policy. Why didn't they do it this time? Perhaps the sheer number of cards has watered down the depth of the product, not mention that Jones has demolished a who's who of LHW challengers this past year or so.



Is the UFC a sports promotion or an entertainment promotion? Probably it is both.



Yes it is true, that the replacement bouts sucked for Jon Jones and were great for replacement challengers who had nothing to lose, and a fat purse to gain.



Even so, Jon Jones should have held his nose, and saved the card. Floyd Mayweather would have done as Jones did, but this is not boxing.



This decision was bad for Jones in many ways.



1. The UFC and Dana are pissed with him.

2. The fans are pissed with Jones.

3. Jones does not fight, and therefore does not make money.

4. PPV's revenues could drop--and they are already not that high for a touted and decorated LHW champion.

5. Jones may think that being champ brings job security--but he better think again. Outside the UFC, there is not any big money to be made in MMA.

6. Jones has been training for Hendo, so he is in shape--the opponent may have changed on short notice, but it is not as if Jones had to fight with a short training camp. So Jones' reason for not fighting is weak.

7. It may not be selfishly 'smart' and high risk/ low reward from a career POV for Jones to avoid the fight--but life is not always a perfectly prepared feast--everyone else in the world has to 'make do' with the cards they are dealt. Fight fans admire the 'fighting spirit' and Jones' refusal smacks of calculation and greed being more important than fighting spirit.



The only good I can see out of JJ's backdown is that he will become such a heel to fans that he will score enormous PPVs as fans pay in a futile hope that they will see anyone smack the smug look off of his face.

PS.



That Nike deal may not have been a good thing for MMA if Jones does not rely upon fight purses for his bloated income.

PPS:



Didn't Shogun have to take a short notice change in contenders when he was champ?

A month short notice. Not 8 days.

codemaster: you don't post often, but DAMN you are good!!

Easily, one of the best here.

agreed i always read codemasters post when i see them mindkontrolle.



i remeber watchnig the 1st ufcs 1 and 2 where you had about a hour or soemthnig to know who you fight next and that is your 3rd fight of the night lol.



jones really should have sucked it up and koed or subed sonon he would have eanred so many fans from that would have been crazy



insted he lost the few people who still liked the guy a very big missed opportunity very bad advice from Greg Jackson hes over thinking stuff as of fighting and not being able to see whats really best for jones such a shame and missed opportunity for jones to redeem him self in the fans eyes..

If Bones takes a L next month.. (which i think he will).. his career goes down the drain.. All his confidence will be GONE and the UFC will make him WORK his way back up.. he'll probably have to win 3 fights to fight for the belt again. The UFC will punish him for his Bitchassness when they get the chance... he better train HARD!

Really? Is that how you see things happening?

This is the UFC's fault for putting such a shit card together. Why is it Jon Jones fault that Henderson got injured and they expected him to fight some shit talking jerkoff who hasnt faught at light heavyweight in years. This is clearly all on Dana White and UFC is using Jones as a scapegoat. You just posted on this site that Dana White said Sonnen is no where near a title shot at light heavyweight; now he expects Jones to fight him? Get the **** outta here. Sonnen is only considered because no one else is ready to go? White just needs a fight he can promote, but in all honesty Sonnen is not deserving of a title fight by any means and expecting Jones to fight him is disrespectful. It;s a joke that UFC put such a weak card together that without its main event it cant make any bit of money by simply still existing.

fuk up code marster utalk alot of shit no one can judge jj coz no one is doing what jjs is doing the ufc is up the fuk and needs a new prez that is all

And another JJ nuthugger to the rescue. Do any of you guys know the english language? Or just didn't pay any attention in school