Frank Shamrock: The whole sport of MMA is ridiculous because of Dana White
Posted on September 14, 2012, 03:00 PM by Mike Drahota
Former UFC champion Frank Shamrock makes no bones about his beef with UFC President Dana White. Now that he has anew book coming out soon, it appears that he is becoming more outspoken than usual, which is quite substantial. Shamrock takes the stance of the lesser majority in that he sides completely with Jon Jones regarding the UFC debacle:
“I don’t know if Jones made the right decision or not, but I liked the decision,” said Shamrock. “I personally don’t like Dana so I like that he stood up to him. Dana is just a big bully and a blow hard. It’s sad to see someone of Jones’ stature brought down by the President of the company. He was basically laid out and destroyed because he didn’t take one for the team. I feel bad for the fans, but fighting is fighting.” - courtesy of BJPenn.com
Shamrock is pouring it on thick in his hatred for Dana White, who earlier this year stated Frank Shamrock would not yet have a spot in the UFC Hall of Fame. Although many consider the younger Shamrock brother to be a legendary figure in the world of MMA, others view him as a polarizing figure whom the game has passed by. Still, he has his spot in the annals of MMA lore, and like him or not, his accomplishments in the so-called “dark ages” of the sport are quite respectable. As the interview wore on, Shamrock became more and more adamant about the harm he believes Dana White is doing to his beloved sport:
“I definitely think it’ll be a negative factor in the long run. I mean these are our sports heroes, guys we want our children to emulate. You got a guy like Dana who doesn’t care about the talent or the fans. He puts himself, his ego and his desire to make money in front of everything. He’s destroying Jones’ brand in the process, it’s not Jon’s responsibility to save the card. Dana White has $100 million, why didn’t he pay the fans back or the fighter’s salaries? Jones made a decision that was right for his family; it has nothing to do with the billion dollars the Fertittas are sitting on. It’s ridiculous in my opinion, the whole sport is ridiculous.”
Shamrock may have a point to make here, as it would seem quite easy for White or the Fertittas to simply pay the fighters' salaries from UFC 151 instead of placing all of the blame on Jon Jones. Whose side do you take? Is Frank Shamrock just running his mouth, using off-base theories to promote his new book, or is Dana White truly bad for the progression of MMA?
Further Reading: Dana white - Frank Shamrock hasn't done anything for the new UFC
Former UFC champion Frank Shamrock makes no bones about his beef with UFC President Dana White. Now that he has anew book coming out soon, it appears that he is becoming more outspoken than usual, which is quite substantial. Shamrock takes the stance of the lesser majority in that he sides completely with Jon Jones regarding the UFC debacle:
“I don’t know if Jones made the right decision or not, but I liked the decision,” said Shamrock. “I personally don’t like Dana so I like that he stood up to him. Dana is just a big bully and a blow hard. It’s sad to see someone of Jones’ stature brought down by the President of the company. He was basically laid out and destroyed because he didn’t take one for the team. I feel bad for the fans, but fighting is fighting.” - courtesy of BJPenn.com
Shamrock is pouring it on thick in his hatred for Dana White, who earlier this year stated Frank Shamrock would not yet have a spot in the UFC Hall of Fame. Although many consider the younger Shamrock brother to be a legendary figure in the world of MMA, others view him as a polarizing figure whom the game has passed by. Still, he has his spot in the annals of MMA lore, and like him or not, his accomplishments in the so-called “dark ages” of the sport are quite respectable. As the interview wore on, Shamrock became more and more adamant about the harm he believes Dana White is doing to his beloved sport:
“I definitely think it’ll be a negative factor in the long run. I mean these are our sports heroes, guys we want our children to emulate. You got a guy like Dana who doesn’t care about the talent or the fans. He puts himself, his ego and his desire to make money in front of everything. He’s destroying Jones’ brand in the process, it’s not Jon’s responsibility to save the card. Dana White has $100 million, why didn’t he pay the fans back or the fighter’s salaries? Jones made a decision that was right for his family; it has nothing to do with the billion dollars the Fertittas are sitting on. It’s ridiculous in my opinion, the whole sport is ridiculous.”
Shamrock may have a point to make here, as it would seem quite easy for White or the Fertittas to simply pay the fighters' salaries from UFC 151 instead of placing all of the blame on Jon Jones. Whose side do you take? Is Frank Shamrock just running his mouth, using off-base theories to promote his new book, or is Dana White truly bad for the progression of MMA?
Comments
Frank who? :-)
Yea the sport would be better off without dana 100%.great you got it off the ground, now shutup and stop stealing the spotlight.
The fact is Jones is the Champ and arguably one of the best in the world. If Dana wanted him to fight a Rihnosaurous he shud ****in do it, to prove he is the best and no one can beat him, not oh I dont want to fight him cuz I might loose and I wud look bad that is bullshit your the champ you stay that way by beating anyone
Yes! Made it to 100 :-)
Yeah but you become the champ by beating the best not by a hop skip and a jump. Chael is not in his court and should never pretend to be there until he's had a game or two. A Rhino would be rediculous and only appeal to the illegit fan who can't see an order to things. So if peewee herman starts yelling on the news he wants jones and Dana says fight him , you think he should take the fight?
Agree 100%, Dana is at fault for putting together such a s hitty card in the first place. Jon Jones is a fighter , imagine how much his image and ranking would go down if he lost to Chael Sonnen who didn't even have a camp. On the other hand if he beats him everyone will just say big deal Sonnen was lighter and out of shape. Dana is a loudmouth who thinks he is big and bad talking down on people who could punch
in his fat tubby face because he has power over them
Their punches would just bounce off all the layers of fat. That's why Dana hates Roy, he's worried Roy has picked up his secret.
Dana is the promoter he is responsible for the card, the venue the advertising and the salaries for the fighters, the fighters are responsible to fight that's it. People don't like it when they don't get what they want are fighters responsible for you being a narcissistic cry baby no I blame your parents. Promoting any event is a gamble I have done it and if you lose money you suck it up, you don't blame the 'entertainment' because your promotion skills suck or unforeseen shit happens that's life grow up Dana.
You have no clue dude! here, read what you said: People don't like it when they don't get what they want.
For this and all sport, fans are the more important thing...ok? never forget that! and that was always like that!
Dana "****head" White is just a ASSHOLE!!! period!
Huh? That's one weirdly put together argument. Anyway, you look a lot like Fedor.
lol wtf?
well fyi, i dont look like fedor, i am fedor.
you're a fvcking idiot
am I? ask your mom if I am...am the only guy who can make her smile...go and ask her ;-)
Dana's not destroying Jones' brand, Jon is simply going from goody two-shoes to giant heel. All Jones needs to do now is flip off the crowd, insult his opponents corner and brag about how much money he's making; Jones as a mega heel will be great for business.
I guess I love the heels too much. I would go nuts if Jones and Dana joined forces to become the new "Corporation".
Lol, imagine Jones walking to the octagon escorted by Paul Bearer. Only to be attacked by his long-lost twin brother who now wears a mask. The brothers fight, then team up and take over the UFC from the Fertittas and Dana.
Hahahah then Jones reunites with Evans after he gets attacked and Steve Mazzagatti ends up getting knocked out.
Careful Evan, all the 'hardcore' MMA fans on here who spaz out at the very mention of pro wrestling (and who indignantly say that pro wrestling is fake and pro wrestlers are pussies whenever the subject comes up) are going to have a field day weaking these comments...
Haha, I appreciate it gods but I'm no stranger to getting weak'd.
Although you'd hope they would realize the similarities betwen the two. Not to mention the historical ties between ProW and MMA in Japan.
i couldnt help but laugh at the thought of mazzagati getting knocked out
Uhh, i guess back when it was WWF, it had some entertaining stories.
Nowadays though, if you watch it you might as well also admit to watching.....
Ok all TV is bad nowadays, lets read a book.
When I was a kid I wanted to be Tito Santana or Macho Man Randy Savage, I didn't know any MMA fighters. I always got a place in my heart for pro wrestling.
Ive never been a fan of the Shamrocks, but Frank could not have said it any better. Well said, Frank.
"Shamrock may have a point to make here, as it would seem quite easy for White or the Fertittas to simply pay the fighters' salaries from UFC 151 instead of placing all of the blame on Jon Jones."
This is something I'm not understanding. NSAC bylaws require the UFC to pay the fighters their "show" money. It shouldn't be a question of "if they want to pay them".
And you are just damn right mr. Shamrock!! I used to be a 100% fan of MMA and I am getting everytime less and less interest on this sport.
Excellent! Now all that is left is for you to stop leaving stupid comments on internet forums and world peace will have been restored.
MMA is ridiculous because of Dana White?
Sorry Frank but there might not be MMA anymore if it wasn't for Dana White or it might still be like the old UFC... where you fought can after can
MMA would be where it is without Dana. Lorenzo is the one that pushed TUF (the biggest boon in MMA US history), and Dana didn't want it.
Even without the Fertitta's its hard to fathom MMA not picking up here at somepoint given the history it already had before they became a part of it.
Could you back that up please Evan. Please show us a link to a single article or interview where Dana said he didn't want TUF.
I'm calling bulls**t on this one
Sorry no. That one is a toughie to find since it has been a thoroughly discussed topic for at least a couple years.
However, if you go check on one of the oldschool/big forums (sherdog, the UG, etc.) and type the topic in you'll find it soon enough.
*hasn't been
Mmm hmm. I thought as much. I don't think a forum on sherdog is really considered as good "proof", and as such I'll stick to my original assessment.
Or on the UG, , or on Weekly. You know, the sites that have been around since before the TUF even popped up. Wouldn't expect somebody who wants to believe one thing so much to change his mind though.
So no evidence then? Cool.
Yep, Dana is the king and brought MMA to the Nations attention. Carrying it on his back out of Boston like Santa Clause.
Sorry, articles and evidence from discussions that took place before your time are hard to come by (and not really worth me looking for). You are more than welcome to educate yourself though.
Yes Evan, those four extra years you have on me make you so wise.
For future reference, If you're going to make a point, u better be able to back it up.
If you can't it makes you look silly you see. Like you maybe make things up to support your point.
Peace xxx
I appreciate the advice, but it isn't needed.
I wasn't making a point to you. I was stating a fact from MMA history that you won't bother to look up because it ruins your opinion on the subject. You are the one who would like to discredit what I've said so how about be a big boy and do some of your own research.
PS: Before your time wasn't referring to your age. It was referring to the fact that if you haven't heard that little side bar of MMA history before, then you haven't been discussing the sport at length with other folks for too long.
Sure Evan. A "fact" that doesn't seem to be out there.
PS I have been a big fight fan for a long time. So I think it's a bit ignorant to be presumptious that I don't know a bit of fictitious history.
You've got a great imagination though. ;-)
Yep, not out there. It must be easy to stick your head under a rock and pretend it doesn't exist.
I never said you weren't a big fight fan. I called in to question your discussing the sport on a serious level considering this is the first you are hearing of a major part of Zuffa's back story.
You might be too busy correcting things like "siked" to actually figure it out.
Peace xoxo
AHA, Exactly what someone who can't spell "psyched" WOULD say!
Again, so funny that you pressed it yourself.
in alot of ways ufc carried mma on its back. especially when pride was widely unknown in the US. and then ended. Dana white gave alot of tender loving care to his company, and the ufc has helped make mma as mainstream as it is. dana is a compelling character and not many promoters can do what he can. u have to give him respect for what hes done. the fertitas just pay for stuff when their not making deals and stuff
He's a compelling character that's for sure, but if I were to pick more of an influential person in history it would have to be Fertitta.
-Used his contacts inside AC's to adopt rules for MMA.
-Reinvested a bunch of money when The UFC was bleeding cash
-Green lit The Ultimate Fighter over other ideas from Spike TV.
Dana will definitely have his spot in MMA's history, but if you look deeper Lorenzo was the far more important individual.
Don't get me wrong, i think you have strong and mostly sound opinions but you really did just throw something out there that in all honesty, you are unwilling to prove ... lets put it this way, anyone can write anything about any subject, but if called on it you kinda need to have the bibliography to back it up ... I don't think anyone is doubting that both Dana and Lorenzo have invested heavily here but lets be accountable here, I for one am happy to be wrong if you can show me any statement that shows Dana was against TUF but ... I've been a fan for a while and whilst my name might be Beerbaron, I'd more likely be on crack if I took everything I read on face value without at least a little proof
God forbid anyone make any money but you frank. "why didn’t he pay the fans back or the fighter’s salaries" He puts on twice as many free fights as they use to back in the UFC "dark ages" where it was only availabe on ppv. Dana gives out tickes to everyone he comes in contact with. Injured soldiers, fans fron twitter. Hell he even let a fan put the belt on GSP waist after he won. Saying he dosnt care about the fans is bull. He talks to everyone he meets. I even had the pleasure of meeting him in my city and i didnt have tickets and he asked me how many I wanted. I sat 8 rows back from the cage and had the time of my life. Frank is just jealous he is now an outsider and has alienated himself from the promotion that he once help build.
As an ESTP personality type dana has extroverted feeling as a tertiary function and that does not mean he is "friendly" it just means he appears friendly, and usually it's just to manipulate the opinions and emotions of people around him.
Would MMA have grown as much or more/less if someone else had Dana's position instead? I can't answer that question but I'm with Frank in supporting JJ's decision.
Bones is a douche but I respect his decision to not fight. Sure, fighting a new opponent with a few days of preparation would be awesome for the fans but would the gain be worth the risk? Jones didn't think so. But he had to take a bullet the president because he cared only for his career. Dana is a fking kid.
its always bad when one person/organisation dominates a sport...
especially a super ass rich motherfu**er like dana who still is all horney for the money...
to much money always ruins a sport..
and seeing a lot of the fighters licking danas balls in interwies saying how good this guy is is just disgusting!! like he was their pimp or something...
hopefully with years to come the sport will grow even more and give place for other big promotions if Dana doesnt buy them up of course...
i said it milon times they destroing MMA with Casino power not becose UFC is a good organisation,That wuy best fighter all time Fedor never foght tere becose UFC is a MMA prison.Dana payed Fedor 5 milon dolars per fight and Fedor didn,t wana be his slave
respeckt to Frank Sharmrock real legend of the sport
Frank aren't you over 40 and wearing braces? nuf said! ;D