Debating Cain Velasquez & Junior Dos Santos III

Debating Cain Velasquez & Junior Dos Santos III


October is finally here and with it, a match that fans have been waiting on for ten months; Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos III.

In the world of MMA there is no greater bout that can be had than that of a UFC heavyweight world title fight, for no division carries more gravitas or cachet, then does the heavyweight division. It is the home of giants and men who dwarf and tower over less substantial men.   

To put it in context and as Frank Mir once humorously mused at a press conference (paraphrasing), there are no fans sitting in the audience looking at the heavyweights fight and thinking, I could beat those guys.

However, as bad and as scary as the division is collectively, it’s even more so when we consider the man that currently holds the belt and those that have been able to climb the ladder far enough, to challenge him for it; truly, the cream of the cream, of the division.

If there is a fight that proves that statement true, then most assuredly it has to be Velasquez / Dos Santos III, on the 19th of this month.

In preface to tomorrow night’s UFC Prime Time on FOX Sports 1 (8:30 pm EST), lets debate the question of which fighter will exit the cage with the belt.

Cain Velasquez is a machine. The champion is 10 & 1 in the UFC and carries and an astonishing 80% finishing rate, with only four opponents making it past the first round. He has, for all intents and purposes, owned every opponent he’s ever faced and although he has suffered a KO loss, he’s never been spanked or dominated in a round. Other than a few seconds of a single fight, the champ has looked indomitable and as if there’s not a man on the planet that could stop him.

Velasquez’s work ethic, wrestling and cardio are beyond reproach and his 80% finishing rate, all of which are by KO or TKO, speaks volumes as to his boxing and power. As previously stated, Velasquez is a machine and the machine seems to be a tank. He appears, for the most part, to be all but impervious to his opponent’s stand-up weapons and a black hole regarding their ground games. In a nutshell, the champ is neither easy to knock down or get down, and he’s not a fighter to be pushed around in the cage or winded out of a fight. If he were to be cast as a Hollywood character, he’d probably be an updated version of James Cameron’s Terminator; T-4.

If we were pushed to find a criticism, weakness or something to be debated about his game, the only thing that could be noted is that he has no submission finishes to his credit. However, that would be digging, to say the least.

Beyond that, the only thing a fan would be able to point to would be his one loss, the manner of it and more importantly, who delivered it. However, even in looking at that, one has to appreciate that any fighter that is caught cleanly and particularly by a guy like Junior Dos Santos, is going to get KO’d. Further, the loss was subsequently avenged and where JDS caught Velasquez quickly and early, Cain in return, beat the living tar out of Junior for five rounds, in their rematch.

Regarding Junior and in comparing him to Velasquez, the similarities are almost eerie.

Like the champ, JDS also burgeons a 10 & 1 record, and with an identical finishing rate of 80%. Stepping back and looking at it, it really is amazing how similar they are. They both have the same record, the same finishing rate and their only (UFC) losses come at the hands and expense, of one another.

Beyond that Dos Santos, too, is a phenomenal boxer and like Cain, one that’s more apt to use his hands than any other stand-up tool in his arsenal. Further still and again like Velasquez, JDS is not known for being a submissions artist and as such, has only one such victory to his name. Moreover, JDS, as is the case with the champ, is notoriously tough to get down and has never been submitted in the UFC.     

In considering all of it, the two fighters are more similar than dissimilar and as such, the fight could well be a tossup, as to who wins the rubber match.

However, there are a few things that we could point to as being issues of difference.

Cain would get the cardio nod going into the fight, but of the two, appears to be the fighter with the weaker chin. Where Velasquez was able to use his cardio and stamina to beat Junior from pillar to post in their second fight, in turn, JDS was able to reach out and shut Cain down with a single swat of his paw in their first.  

Another issue that could be considered would be the caliber of opponents that they’ve faced. Of the two, it could be argued that Junior has squared off against a slightly better crew than has Velasquez. Other than that, there’s not much difference to discuss between these two fighters.

In synopsis, this is either’s fight to win and as fans, all we can do is hope that the match lands somewhere between a mix of their first two bouts; that it’s neither quick nor decisive, nor is it five rounds of drubbing.

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  • enjoylife321

    Jnr will win this rematch IMO. First of all he withstood everything that Cain did, he didn't let his hands go and he was having a lot of family problems during that time. Jnr has always had great TDD but this time it will be even more refined. Jnr will be throwing like a mad man in this fight and will catch Cain.

    • akieyugames

      so was he like just at…70% or 85% during the 2nd fight? Fcuking Jones starting the trend.

      •Ă©Amorim AndrĂ© Amorim

        It is true JDS broke up with his wife a week before the fight, and he had overtrainnig, he said urinated black because of overtrainnig! Day 19 he will win this fight!

        WAR JDS!!

        • x murderer


    • x murderer

      he COULDN'T let his hands go in the 2nd fight.

  • Zip

    Beautiful comparison Brian, actually made me reconsider the outcome. Nonetheless, I still think JDS will take it via ko. Soo looking forward to this one.

    • Brian Cox

      Yeah Zip, it "should" be a great fight, so long as it doesn't turn out as the first two, which is to say, we need a hybrid fight of the first two.

      I think maybe if there is an "X" factor in this fight, it's that Cain beat JDS for 5 rounds, but couldn't finish him. I think that say a lot about Junior's toughness and heart. He was a mess…after that bout.

      On the other hand, he clipped Cain once and it was over.

      Where I wasn't so sure that I was pumped for this fight, I now am. Particularly, given JDS's last performance against Hunt and that spinning kick. For a guy as big as JDS is and he's huge, that was a very quick, subtle, explosive and athletic move. In a word, it was impressive. If he's got that type of trick for Cain, wow.

      Really don't know how to call this one. The logical side says, Cain goes out and beats on him again. However, I think JDS learned a lot for the loss and I do think there might have been some issues that caused a lesser performance, so…you tell me.

      All I hope is it's at least 3 rounds and that it's good back and forth. A Henderson / Rua or Jones / Gustafsson type of fight would be mind numbingly brilliant for the fans to see.

      If it did…JDS / Velasquez IIII? Personally, I could care less if I saw the same two guys fight ten times, if all the fights were as good as the two named.

      That said, I don't want to see a replay of either JDS / Velasquez one or two.

      • Zip

        Sheesh, a mountain of more things to ponder on. Think I'll just sit back and watch this one. Cain's a beast, but I'll still give JDS the edge, maybe…

  • GoldenBibi

    Cain will win big again…Only this time he finishes JDS in less then 2 rounds… Hope is by submissions.. Last time Cain had many opportunities to choke JDS out…

  • jmedno5891

    I'll be rooting for Cain as I did in the first 2 fights, I see/hope it goes the same way as it did in the 2nd fight, as long as he can avoid JDS' big shots for the first 2 rounds he should be able to either dominate him for 5 rounds, or finish him. I don't see JDS outworking Cain, but possibly just knocking him the F out in the 1st or 2nd. That picture of JDS on the main wall makes it seem like he put on a bit more muscle as well? he looked huge.

  • thexperience1

    I got Cain.. I think Cain showcased in the second fight that he's just the overall better fighter period. He literally beat Dos Santos up for 5 rounds, it's just hard to look past that. The first fight he got caught… any heavyweight at any given time can get caught but to put a 5 round whooping on someone, is more of a statement in my opinion. It just shows superiority. Sure Cain didn't finish Dos Santos, Dos Santos is tough but after round 2 Cain clearly took a more control & beat him up approach rather than a dangerous "Overeem" approach with too much output for 2 min and then gas out. Cain has crazy cardio but even so, in a 5 round fight you wanna keep some fuel in the tank, so he fought a perfect fight and came out on top.

  • ds-bailey1

    Junior has faster hands, and has one hit knock out power. Not just a flash knock out, i'm talking put you to sleep. Dos santos was coming off of some probs with his wife post the second fight, so his mind wasn't in the right place. I mean lets be real, how would his mind be in the right place? Fighting is your life, but woman problems are a whole other ball park… I think every guy can 'Amen' to that one. If his head is on straight this 3rd fight, Cain will be dreaming in the octagon in know time. Count on it.

    • thexperience1

      I don't buy that whole.. "just broke up" nonsense… it's a load of s-c-r-a-p! That happened pretty much after his whole camp, so it did not take focus off his training and that does not take away any power or skill… if anything he should've been more fueled and aggressive in the octagon. When you're in a fight and someone is throwing heavy leather at you and basically trying to f*cking kill you! You don't have time to think about your relationship with your wife or anything like that, trust me! if that's what you think, you've never been in a fight. If