Who's the right "Ace" to defeat "The Joker" Jon Jones?
Posted on March 21, 2011, 06:13 AM by Anton GurevichAfter just three years of MMA competition, Jon "Bones" Jones became the youngest Champion in UFC's history. Jones defeated the PRIDE legend Mauricio "Shogun" Rua in an impressive fashion to become the new UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, proving everyone once again that "the hype is real".
The Greg Jackson product is currently 7-1 in his Ultimate Fighting Championship campaign, defeating Andre Gusmao, Stephan Bonnar, Jake O'Brien, Brandon Vera, Vladimir Matyushenko and Ryan Bader on his way to the triumph against Shogun Rua at the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey. His only defeat comes via DQ (Straight Elbows) against Matt Hamill, in a fight that took place at the TUF 10 Finale event on Dec. 5th, 2009.
And since the majority of Jacks, Queens and Kings of the UFC Light Heavyweight division are behind him, here's the list of four aces who may be on their way to challenging "The Joker" Jon Jones for his belt. As always, use the comments section to share your thoughts.
Ace of Spades: "Suga" Rashad Evans
Age: 31
Record: 15-1
Last Fight: Victory over Rampage Jackson at UFC 114
Next Fight: Jon Jones (date unknown)
Rashad Evans is officially next in line for Jon Jones. As Jon Jones' former Greg Jackson teammate, Rashad Evans will know a lot about his opponent, and will surely try to find an unorthodox approach for Jon Jones. Evans has a high level wrestling to his advantage and the required physical strength to deal with someone like Jones. "Suga" has also four TKO victories in the UFC, one of them against the former Champion Forrest Griffin at UFC 92.
Ace of Hearts: Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
Age: 32
Record: 31-8
Last Victory: Victory over Lyoto Machida at UFC 123
Next Fight: Matt Hamill at UFC 130
Rampage was originally offered a title shot against Shogun Rua ahead of Jones, but was unable to cut weight in time and had to decline the offer. Jackson is one of the most physically strong fighters in the UFC 205 division, walking around at the "regular" weight of around 245 pounds. Rampage also has a ferocious knockout power that sent dozens of fighters out cold down to the canvas. In his next fight against Matt Hamill, Rampage will look to prove the quality of his takedown defense abilities, which cost him a victory against Rashad Evans at UFC 114.
Ace of Diamonds: Phil "Mr. Wonderful" Davis
Age: 26
Record: 8-0
Last Fight: Victory over Tim Boetsch at UFC 123
Next Fight: Rogerio Nogueira at Fight Night Seattle
Phil Davis is one of the most decorated wrestlers in the UFC, with no less than four NCAA Div. 1 All-American titles. Davis also has tremendous athletic capabilities, with sheer dominance in fights against Alexander Gustafsson, Brian Stann, Rodney Wallace and Tim Boetsch serving as a proof. Just like Jon Jones at the start of his UFC run, Phil Davis shows signs of pure MMA excellence, but is yet to be tested against the top tier UFC Light Heavyweights. This weekend's Fight Night bout against Minotoro Nogueira will serve as a proving ground for Mr. Wonderful.
Ace of Clubs: Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida
Age: 32
Record: 16-2
Last Fight: Defeat against Rampage Jackson at UFC 123
Next Fight: Randy Couture at UFC 129
Next to Jones, Machida is the most unorthodox fighter in the UFC Light Heavyweight division. Machida's movement and perfectly timed striking are a nightmare for any 205'er in the World, including someone like Jon Jones. "The Dragon" also proved he has a vicious knockout power, with brutal victories over Rashad Evans and Thiago Silva. And last but definitely not the least, Machida has a very strong camp in Black House, where fighters such as Anderson Silva and the Nogueira Brothers can prepare him for anything against Jon Jones.

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In my humble opinion, Phil Davis is two fights away from being in the mix.
Rampage, please. Jones will destroy that chub.
I don't think Phil Davis is as good as Ryan Bader, Rampage Jackson isn't serious most of the time and Rashad Evans knows he lost already. I really believe that Machida is going to give Jon Jones a truer test than Rua.
i think jones aggression would kinda play into machidas style he is the only one i see coming close to a victory
Machida would have some issues with the physicality of Jon Jones, but he has much better takedown defense than Rua. I don't know if he'd be able to knock Jones out, but I could see him keeping it standing for most of the fight to take a close decision.
Machida having "vicious knockout power" though? He knocked out Silva with a gravity assisted Superman Punch, and he had to hit Rashad about 50 times to knock him out. How exactly is that vicious?
anderson the spider silva
How come nobody mention Tito Ortiz ? How come he's not on the List ??? :))
he may not have knockout power. but his flurries kicks and knees are very frustrating and might cause jones to fatal mistake.
I dunno man, he fights Nog who Bader beat than fights Bader? I don't really like when a guy like David who is to be touted as a threat to Jones belt faces common oppenents that people then use as gages for their potential matchup. Like if David doesn't beat Nog worse then Bader did, people are going to think Davis has no shot against Jones which is not always how it works.
Spot on. In any competitive sport, styles are a huge factor in winning or losing. There will always be a counter to anything no matter how powerful.
None of this cats can defeat Jones if Jones fights the way he fought his last two fights. UNLESS Jones makes a MISTAKE.
rampage always stands a chance...bones chin hasnt been tested and he's never been hurt neither...rampage needs to touch him somehow and hurt him with that touch then follow through very quickly before bones regains his composure...and not like he did when he rocked rashad he missed 2 lala land punches point blank still cant get over that...tho bones...i dunno...this is another animal...he just seems to dwarf opponents a few inches shorter than him i mean shogun looked like a kid getting bullied in the playground. it's his damn go go gadget limbs its always gonna be a major problem for anyone he was anatomically designed for fighting.
evans may even pull off a upset i can see him trash talking jones into a stupor...then come fight time he does a fake shot and instead reaches for the ko ...similar to how he fooled rampage in the opening seconds of their fight...evans has ko power he's just not been utilising it of late.
I would love to see rampage vs jones. Rampage is just a badass mother ****er and when hes in shape its hard seeing it being a one sided fight
Because he's a freak athlete and it will take one to beat another freak athlete in Jones.
the best one as to be machida coz he's the only one fast enough to get jones and frustrate him, rash he's to small. rampage he's to slow but only needs to conect once then it could be k.o but as i said to slow for jones and he's oveweight so to lose all that fat and pretend to be 100 % ummm i doubt it. i don't understand shogun saying all that shit about jone's got chicken legs and he did'nt deliver a leg kick no even once. OBIOUSLY THE ONLY REAL MAN TO BEAT HIM IS ANDERSON... IT WOULD BE A DREAM FIGHT TO WATCH!!! DANA PLEASE I TELL MY SISTER TO SUCK YOUR DICK MAN!!!
Rite now I'm gonna go with Evans....hes quick and has great wrestling and good stand up, but mainly cause hes been training with Jones and knows how he fights were his strengths and weaknesses r....still gonna b picking Jones over Evans but out of those 4 I got Rashad
none of the above
jackson wud definatly loose evans has a good chance of beating him
but machida definatley doesnt
Technically Jon Jones looks like Phil Davis. Davis is 3 years older, but still your comment is stupid.
lol... i think davis is a better wrestler than jones ! and i do think jones vs davis should be a good fight !
you don't know what the hell you are talking about, Phil Davis is a savage. I agree with these four guys, Davis will be in the mix real quick. Do some research before you start talking crap
I would throw Bader into the mix too but Jones already beat the hell out of em
Completely agree, athletically davis is right up there,
he just has to be proven now, and he could possibly beat little nog
next fight,
and just he needs better striking now,
good article
i said pretty much the same i seen closer to two years tho but we'll see but i want to see all those fights!
Hey, nice article but wouldn't "King" be a more appropriate card for Jones?
Man.. I'm not that big in cards. Is there even an option in ANY CARD GAME where Ace beats The Joker? :)
I have no idea. I just thought King made more sense than Joker for the champ.
@ Anton
Phil Davis is going through exactly what Jones went through at the beginning of his career.
How come Chuck Liddel is not on the List ? :)
Phil Davis is the only maybe, after some more fights, and really working on his stand up. Rampage is a shell of what he used to be, and is one dimensional, Evans I believe already know he will lose, and i dont think Rashad is more affective in any area in mma than Jones, Machida wont be able to overcome the reach to counter strike
Anderson Silva that's who!!!!
Very nice article!
i think those 4 are the guys that can be consider next to Jones
if Phil Davis beats Noguiera then theres no doubt hes close to the title contention , he does have the Jon Jones potential.
Rampage has a chance with the power he has in his hands.
its just matter of his takedown defense.
Karlos Vemola is a guy to look out for aswell.
Davis could soon be the only man who can hold a candle to Jones, providing that he makes leaps and bounds of improvement in his striking over the course of his next few fights. He could take Jones down imo, he just needs to work on the standup and he too could be the future of the lhw division.
Rampage is great fighter with very good stand up&brutal; KO power, IMO only thing he lacks is movement speed needed to hunt Jones down. But if he could use unpredictable movement and little speed, he could put Jones into some big trouble.
In your dreams. Rampage has about half the speed of Jones. Dream on.
Same thing was said against machida but rampage was able to get the decision. If rampage can hunt him down like he did machida and keep the pressure on...take a few punches on the way in to deliver the ko...he could stand a good chance. his problem imo will be with jones wrestling and gnp...then again...i thought the same with shogun yet bones nailed him in stand up. best bet 4 rampage wud be standing but he could be beaten there as well just don't know with jones no more...he's chin hasn't been tested thats 4 sure so rampage needs to go for the ko thats his only chance
Talent and physical gifts aren't the only marks of a great fighter. At this level most of it has to do with style match ups and preparations/gameplans. I bet you thought Brock was unbeatable also.
Jackson would be a much better fighter if he took training more seriously. He puts on ssooo much fat when he's noty training for a fight and then leaves himself having to cut loads of weight leading up to a fight. If he constantly stayed fit he'd be much faster and have better cardio rather than eating poorly and doing movies.
Yeah it's a shame that he doesn't take this sport as seriously as other top competitors, even though he is in the same kettle of fish.
Perfect time to offer A silva a fight against him in LHD? ...I defiantly can't see Lyoto surviving very long against Bones, he would attempt to jump in and outside to attack and get caught by that massive reach of Bones. I reckon Rampage would be a good match up against him but I really think the key to beating him is taking out his legs without getting hit by his mantis arms!
If you were Dana White.....would you put your top star (and top P4Per in the world) against your biggest rising star? What would be the BUSINESS benefit? None. Someone will either lose decisively, which will diminish that fighters credibility or it will go to a decision because neither fighter will engage and tries to remain elusive.
A true Lose-Lose if there ever was one. Sure it's what the fans want (me as much as anyone), but Dana knows this isn't Pride OW GP days, and having Superfights with regularity (ASvGSP, ASvJJ, etc...) makes little business sense.
AS will fight GSP pretty soon, so I don't see what is wrong with superfights. They do make business sense. It is what the fans want to see.
The business benefit would be getting the most out of these two stars while he can. You never know what will happen in the fight business so you have to do what you can when you can.
Good points there, but still Jones is so young he would have time to build back up if he lost, and then AS's last fights would be HUGE because he stole all of Jones thunder. If Jones oen than holy shit that kid is a cash cow now and Silva is sorta old anyways.
I actually thought of Davis this morning. He hasn't proved himself against anyone really, but he has dominated his opponents so far. His stand up is average though
I don't see any of these guys touching Jones. Shogun manhandled Rampage and Machida. Maybe Rashad, although his chin is very questionable and still has great reach disadvantage. Thiago Silva loss to split decision against Rashad due to his wrestling but was able to get on his feet on several occasions and press him to the cage. Thiago its got a solid takedown defense and great power. If he can keep improving his wrestling, I think he could give Jones a lot of trouble.
You can't go by who has beaten who to figure out who will beat who. It is all about styles and who makes less mistakes on fight night. There are countless examples of guy A getting trounced by guy B and then destroying guy C who manhandled guy B.
Phil Davis is the only one physically gifted enough to even challenge Jones. Where do all the Shogun fanboys chime in on this one? Probably jumping on the Rampage bandwagon now.
Is this all you do all day,sift through lowkick sucking JJ ****?
Talent and physical gifts aren't the only marks of a great fighter. At this level most of it has to do with style match ups and preparations/gameplans. I bet you thought Brock was unbeatable also.
Seriously...You don't have any right to call other people fanboys..Listen to yourself rant about how great Jones is,and thats all you ever talk about.Take his Dick out of your mouth,people like you are just gonna make other fans hate Jon Jones.
I think if machida goes back to his elusive style (no one was able to hit em) he could pull it off.
I think machida wanted to fight more apealing to the fans and it costed him 2 losses.
I know its not great to watch but he was hard to get a hold of or even to hit.
In my opinion I don't think that Jones will be trouble anytime soon. He has all the natural gifts plus with his skills makes him near unbeatable. Evans should not trouble Jones too much, since they are both in the same camp Jones would have seen most of Rashads moves if not all his moves BUT unlike anyone else Jones really comes up with some weird unpredictable striking and apparently Jones is a quick learner I'm sure he would have looked at Rashad training.
Rampage in the other hand has a punchers chance to beat Jones. Can't discount his power BUT he has to work out Jones first, maybe pin him against the fence and just unload on him the problem with that is he needs to pin Jones against the fence first.
Phil Davis actually when i first looked at his picture I though he was Jones (LOL). I think Davis still need to beat one more (if he beats Nogueira) to have the shot at Jones preferably one of the other men considered in this article.
Lyoto is in a little slump at the moment after the Rua and Rampage lost but by beating Randy he could be a good match against Jones actually come to think of it if Jones waits for Lyoto to attack and Lyoto just do what he does best and counter then it could end up in a very boring fight (LOL).
It will not be Evans. I think Jones will stuff his take downs and do what ever he wants to him.
Rampage could potentially get the KO. He only needs one really good punch. He won't have to stuff too many shots because Jones is a Greaco Roman wrestler but it he gets in the clinch Jones will toss him like a sack. I think Rampage will be too slow for Jones in the end.
Phil Davis is basically in the same position that Jones was in before his title shot. He has walked through some solid middle tier LHWs and is ready for a step up. It is also an interesting match because they are both superlative wrestlers but from different styles. Davis doesn't need to worry about Jones shot and Jones would have no fear of Davis in the clinch. I see them avoiding those ranges and standing. Jones destroys Davis on the feet.
IF anyone is going to beat Jones at LHW in the near future I see it being Lyoto Machida. His Sumo might be a good answer to Jones' Greaco Roman wrestling and his ability to dart in and out, causing but not taking damage is a challenge for anyone. The only question is whether or not he can do that against someone with such a huge reach advantage. Fighting from the outside in those conditions can be very frustrating. If the Dragon can't beat him I see him being the LHW champ for a while.
Thiago Silva or Lyoto can beat him I think.
I totally disagree about Thiago but I am kind of intrigued. What makes you think so?
machidas or davis are the only ones that have a good chance against jones, rampage is good, but ya all know his horrible on his back, and he even said it himself on a video, his not willing to train nothing else but what got em to this point in his career,meaning stand up, he doest want to evolved, so fighting jones thinking like that its going to end bad for him, and i like rampage just wished he would want to be better and not stay as a one dimensional fighter , but yea, machidas style is his key to beating jones, but also jones style can beat machida, i think it would be a good match....O and rashad is gonna get whoop unless it makes up for a dumb fight where neither want to punch and hurt the other guy cause they "friends"
Rampage started out as a wrestler.
Looks like the friendship is out the window though :-O
I don't see any of these guys beating Jones. Right now I think he would destroy all 4 of them. He has too many tools for all of them and I don't think they would have answer for those just like Shogun.
Only person I could see being a potential threat to him at LHW would be Anderson if he were to move up.
jon jones is only getting better, i don't think that any of these guys can beat him. only guy that i see beating jon jones is cain velasquez (if jones moves to hw division in the future).
How come Chuck Liddel is not on the List ? :)
rampage
I also can't chose who I think can best him. What I wanna see is Jones clean out this division and go on a A.Silva run. So I say one by one with Phil being the last cause he needs to prove himself. Feed all four of these guys to Bones. Evans, Rampage, Machida, then Phil. I wanna see all four fights!!!
I'd say there is less then a 5% chance that any of those guys could beat Jones, in all honesty (and I am not even joking) I am not 100% sure any two of those guys could take Jones together.
I'm going to go ahead and say it right now, just like I told everyone from the get go that Jones would destroy Shogun, and got weaked for it over and over again by all the fanboys.....
IF Jones and A. Silva fought NEXT, Jones would DESTROY Silva too, period.
Above you sayed that "Where do all the Shogun fanboys chime in on this one? Probably jumping on the Rampage bandwagon now."
Are you idiot or something? Cant you read? JJ TKO´d Shogun, and this article is not about "how Shogun is going to beat JJ. This article is about Rampage, Davis, Evans and Machida, and who has best chance on beating JJ.
@ Cage
I agree.
Jones is a beast, but I still think Silva is more accurate, faster, and most importantly maybe the best counter striker out there, I'd take Silva in that one.
I would actually take Machida to put up the best challenge vs Jones, for his unorthodox timing defence and counter striking. Love Rampage but I just cant see him dealing with Jones reach in striking.
I don't like too much Evans, but like he said he has been training with Jones, so i think he knows few tricks.
"Ace" to have a chance to defeat Jon Jones that kid ! no ones as i could see for now sorry and Anderson .Silva may have a chance .imo
im not sure who could beat him. i think in all honesty, with rivalries aside, Evans could be the one. People didnt expect him to stand and trade with Chuck, and everyone knows how that ended. his wrestling is also top notch
to be honest though, i think once rashad and Jones happens (should jones win) Rampage vs Hamill winner will be next in line, with hamil being Jones' only official loss, i could see this being a big draw for the UFC, and well, any fight featuring rampage is an easy sell
Hamil vs. Jones is not a big draw :-D .. That was one of the most one-sided fights ever! It's unfortunate that it would be called a loss. The fight was pretty much over before the north south elbow. Jones vs. Rampage on the otherhand is exactly what you said it is and I agree with all the other stuff you said.
...Jones isn't playing cards and he's not a joker.
Jones is playing Chess and he's (apparently) a master of it. The question is, who in the 205 will realize he's playing a different game and adjust their game to it, in an effort to beat Jones.
In cards their is a randomness to shuffling the deck, the deal and who is at the table. There is no randomness, nor have we seen any demonstrated in any of his fights. He doesn't have to worry about the shuffle, the deal or who is at the table; he doesn't care. He'll beat them all; or so his is demonstrating.
As much as JJ wants to.....awww, shucks his way from avoiding the question or point - there is a "new era". An old school fighter is not going to beat this guy. He has raised the bar and the standard for what is both possible and needed in an MMA fight, in The Octagon; at least in the 205 division; sucks to be them.
Jones is playing chess, not cards and that's a higher level game and anyone who wants to compete against him, better start learning the game.
As good as he has looked, I'm not ready to put him on that level just yet. Beating Rashad and Machida would definitely do it for me, as they are tough match-ups IMO.
@ Dray
I don't get it, Dray. Shogun killed Machida and would beat Rashad (IMO), so what's not to be impressed with JJ beating SR?
Dray, if you're not prepared to put him on another level now, then you might not ever. I don't know what other proof anyone would need, other than the beating and dominance he has laid on his last two opponents, in the last 6 weeks.
Come on Dray - that band wagon is beginning to pick up steam; don't want to miss it; hope on board the JJ train. :-)
If he can dispose of Rashad then take out winner of Machida/Couture (assuming winner gets the next shot), i don't see anyone beating this kid for awhile...
Well (and forgive me if i sound biased (even though I am)), besides the fact he just beat my favorite fighter, who many people have now completely written off (along with the rest of the LHW division), I have good reason not to jump on the bandwagon so soon.
Right now JJ is in a very similar spot to Machida when he became champion. Machida decimated Bonnar, Franklin, Nakumura, Sokoudjou, Tito, Thiago Silva and finally Rashad Evans to capture the belt. In all of those fights, it was never even close. The only difference between the positions Machida and JJ are in right now, is that JJ is much younger and has been in the game for a much shorter period of time.
If you look at the two fighters, its clear Jon Jones is the guy who has more "physical gifts". Ending the Machida Era may be credited to simply figuring out a unique style, but will the JJ era end by virtue of that same reason? Only time will tell, but he definitely has the unorthodox style AND the physical gifts + rate of improvement factor in his favor.
I think I have explained in detail on other posts why I think Rashad and Machida are the tests that will elevate JJ to that untouchable level, but as of now, and considering the intricacies of the sport of MMA + the approach/philosophy I have on it, it's simply to early for me to tell.
i think jones is gona hold on to the tittle for a while.. cant see any1 beating jones anytime soon and evans wont either.. jones could be the man to hold on to the belt as long as anderson and gsp.. but if i had to pick someone to give him a good run it wud hav to be machida coz he trains with anderson and hes an unpriediable striker like jones....
I think his next fight with Evans will determine his fate. Evans obviously knows what is needed to beat Jones(since he's the only one in this deck that has trained with him). He may be able to exploit whatever is needed in that fight to make it possible for others to succeed(not to mention if he succeeds). Not to make excuses for anybody, but he beat down a Shogun that was out for a year with a restructured leg, a scared Bader, and others who are not at that top level(not saying he wouldn't have beaten them anyways, but saying to take that into consideration). He demonstrated his abilities and now we'll see how it goes against his most game opponent. Rashad has the wrestling, the speed, and knockout power to truly test Jones and we'll get to see how good Jones really is. Yes, he is great, but that fight will decide fi this will be a Mike Tyson type of run or a typical 205 run (average of 0 to 1 successful title defenses in the division). This is almost like when people thought Lesnar was invincible after he survived Carwin. He fought a well prepared(and equipped) fighter and got exposed. I think Jon Jones is great(always have thought that), but he still has to go through different challenges before we jump to conclusions. I predict that if he runs through Evans the way he ran through Shogun then he'll be champion for awhile. However, I think that fight might be a war and probably fight of the year if Rashad is 100%. Then again, maybe Jones is a superhero :-D ..We shall see .. I'm pumped for that fight and it hasn't even been scheduled.
Machida can beat Jones. He trains with Anderson Silva, who Jones steals a lot his stand up techniques from. He also has great takedown defense and good takedowns as well. He won't be in range for Jones' spinning elbows and all of that. Rampage who hits harder than Jones couldn't hurt Machida with punches, Jones sure won't.
Silva had been nowhere near as impressive as Jones is as a rookie. Silva did evolve his stand up to be among the best in MMA, but Jones as a rookie is far from the finished product, but a more rounded fighter than Silva is already. Many people were saying Rua would beat Jones and some will say Machida can, or Ramps or Davis or others.
Personally I think Jones is fully deserving of the hype and I think only an improving fighter has any chance against him. Machida and Evans could cause Jones problems if he makes a mistake and he does take some risks in the way he fights, but I will be very surprised if Jones loses to any of the old guard. He is the most exciting prospect and more importantly most dominating prospect the sport has ever seen.
I think he may be like GSP and may need a loss before we ever see him polish up his act, but even his raw skill is more than enough to have dominated everyone so far. That loss is hard to see coming though if he remains as hungry, focused and injury free.
If you watch Jones fights back he does seem to vary his style and variation of strikes depending on his opponent, and it could well be that along with his amazing talent he has the wisdom of studying and formulating a gameplan per opponent which is very bad news for every other LHW if that is the case.
He is beatable, there is no such thing as aan unbeatable fighter, but he is hungry and improving beyond anything we have seen before at LHW. I think for him to be challenged he needs to fight at LHW where he does not enjoy reach advantage as he does at LHW. Perhaps someone like Davis who is promising can improve to a competitive level for Jones but that day could be a long time coming.
We have been here before with Machida in similar circumstances, a dominant conundrum of a fighter who no one had worked out and Rua soon proved what folly it is to hype a fighter to such a level, but a will risk such folly again and say Jones will become the greatest LHW of all time if he stays in the sport long enough, even if he loses one or two along the way as his scope for improvement and natural talent so far is as good as any 23 year old there's ever been in MMA.
Talking of Silva, I would certainly like to see Silva face off someone he did not enjoy height and reach advantage and see if he is worth the hype as I personally think he is overrated in terms of p4p king, not hating - just honest opinion. I think Jones would destroy Silva just as he has every other opponent so far, though I would give Silva a slim chance as he is one of the better finishers when he gets the chance.
At EXACTLY 2:23-2:24 He taps. you can see it through Herb Deans legs and it happens RIGHT when the clock disappears between 2:23 - 2:24. He taps 3-4 times. Herb was already stopping it, but he is clearly tapping. This happens WAY more than people discuss. GSP was tapping from strikes at the exact time ref was stopping Matt Serra from striking him even more.
Yeah, Shogun tapped out. I actually wrote about it in one of my articles... this moment just showed how helpless and mentally broken he was in this fight.
It's sad, coz Shogun is a humble Champion, and a great Mixed Martial Artist.
I saw the tap that night too. Tapped from strikes. Lol I'm shaking my head right now. Shogun gave up.
The black one
You make the most sense out of anybody who posted so far...And the thing is you couldn't be more right than you already are....good post!
I don't really think Jones has had a through test yet. Yes fighting Shogun was a what many people would thought would be a great test, but watching the fight I thought it was completely lopsided. Shogun looked slow, was out powered and Jones took him outside the ring whenever he wanted. I believe it would be a hugh difference with him fighting a power house fighter like Rampage, or just someone with a little more strength in his hands like Machida, or even Mr.Wonderful. His next title defense will be the real test.
3 aging stars and one up-and-comer? I pick 'non-of-the-above'.
Rashad - 31, Rampage and Lyoto are 32 and though some fighters keep winning well past that age, lots drop off the table too.
Stylistically, I think the Dragon has the best chance. His style poses the biggest challenge, because I think only Davis has a chance of matching his physical ability.
The UFC won't rush Davis. He's still at least two a-list wins away from a title shot and they'll want to build the hype. I like the idea of the Davis-Bader match up.
I believe The Dragon has what it takes to do it. Other than him... Mousasi, he needs to get in the UFC. I know he lost his belt to a wrestler but Mousasi with good takedown defense is a serious threat to Bones.
sorry but i think all of them would beat shogun at this time...
i think rambage would ko shougun and evens and davis would winn by points
shogun didn't look well (slow) even he was afraid i guess..
ufc or us mma scoreing sucks didn't see guys like gsp davis evens hamilton wrestlers be that good in pride or dream rules were takedowns don't score that much.
this lay and pray starts to piss me of i like fighters like chuck jackson shogun silver penn they are real fighters they come to fight they life and day by the sword. davis can easy be the next champ vor a long time by lay and pray. thats not what the real mma fans whana see. bj penn trys to take down fitch first course he nows otherwise there is no chance he can win this shit. zuffa do something stop this lay and pray shit.
start givin points for takedown dif. or for getin up.
Why don't you try to learn how to spell before even attempting sentences, let alone a whole paragraph.
Like I said in my previous post. I believe Jones is going to lose because of the curse. With all joking around aside. It is so hard to decide with the lhw division being so stacked, but every time I pick the current champion I am always wrong >:O
Of them all, I would pick Machida. Rampage was lucky not to get knocked out cold.
Machida is a fast and accurate counter-puncher with a superb takedown defense. Think of how many times and for how long have you seen Machida on his back?
Of the four fighters, Machida could catch Jones coming in--or keep him at a distance. I am not saying he would do it, but of the four fighters, I give him the best chance of taking Jones with Rashad a close second.
Since Rashad trained with Jones, and is a wrestler too--which is Jones' strength--Rashad is my second choice to beat Jones.
Third is Phil Davis, who if I had seen him fight top level fighters and win, I would have more confidence in him. Davis must improve his striking game--and his next fight will tell the tale whether he has made progress in that department.
Last is Rampage, who these days only seems to have the inexorable flat-footed robot approach to fighting--rarely throwing kicks, rarely trying for takedowns--not performing his trade-marked suplexes or slams--though he did make Machida give up his submission hold pretty fast when he realized he was going to be slammed--but Rampage against Jones would be the lowest chance of dethroning Jones, resting only upon a power shot connecting against a dancing, long limbed opponent.
I am with those who say an Anderson Silva vs. Jon Jones would be the best matchup I could think of.
Co-sign. Don't forget about Machida's sumo background!!!! But really, machida is deceptively strong and Jones will have a hard time ragdolling him. He will have a hard time shooting in for TD's as thats not his style, and Machidas knee strikes are well timed and dangerous. My bet would be he would put Machida against the cage, knee his legs, and try and drop down for single or double and drop him on his back.
I honestly don't believe any of those fighters can beat Jon Jones.
I think Machida has the tools to give Jones a much tougher test than any of the others can, and this is the one fight Im most interested in after Saturday night.
I, like a few others here, am still unconvinced by Jones. Offensively he looks fantastic, and has great physical assets. However, we haven't seen any fighter put him on the back foot yet. I think Machida is the one to do it. Unlike many of the other top contenders, Machida has the means and capability to force Jones to stand and strike him him, and I feel in this zone, Machida can seriously put Jones under pressure, and test his chin, durability and heart.
Unfortunately Machida's stock has fallen because of his recent fights, but technically I still see him as the premium LHW fighter at present. Hopefully we will see Machida pass the Couture test with flying colours and set up an intriguing contest with Jones.
Mr. Wonderful without a doubt. I think people fail to see the future of this kid!
jon jones vs forrest griffin could be fight of the year
jon jones vs anderson silva is the new superfight
Eveyrone forget about 'The Natural' or what!? Ya he's 45 but he's proved that doesn't mean a damn thing. At his old age he killed Silvia and Ko'd Gonzaga (Who appearently is now referred to as a legend LOL) to defend the heavyweight belt. Honestly if the legend can take down Machida, i see him as one of the only threats. If Machida wins this upcoming fight, i think he would have a very good shot as well.