Where does Jose Aldo belong on the P4P list?
Posted on January 15, 2012, 02:24 PM by Daniel Cassidy
A few days prior to last night's UFC 142 in Rio de Janero, UFC president Dana White had stated how he hoped to see a return of the "old, WEC style" Jose Aldo "Junior". Judging by his comments at the post fight presser, White could not have seemed happier with last night's fights, and his reigning Featherweight Champion.
Facing the toughest challenge of his career, Aldo stood opposite Team Alpha Male standout out Chad "Money" Mendes in his homeland last night and emerged victorious, in devestating fashion. It was clear from the offset that Aldo's wrestling game had improved. Aldo stopped 3 of the NCAA standout's initial takedown attempts, and proved his training with Gray Maynard was paying off. With a minute left in the round, Mendes seemed in control, pinning Aldo to the cage, while controlling his back. Mendes delivered several powerful knees, and was close to stealing the round until Aldo turned things around with the clock running out. With less than ten seconds, Aldo broke his opponents grip, turning and delivering a highlight reel KO knee direct to the temple of Mendes. Three follow up punches in the dying seconds of the round saw Aldo leap from the cage and into the adoring crowd, retaining his Featherweight title in the process.
Currently ranked on Lowkick's Pound for Pound list at number 5, the first ever UFC Featherweight Champ looked very near unbeatable last night, frustrating his opponent by stuffing his shots, all the while delivering punishing leg kick after leg kick, clearly hurting Mendes. Finishing the fight so suddenly and vicious, Aldo will surely have silenced so many of those who doubted him following two lack lustre decision wins. Extending his winning streak to 14 consecutive fights, Aldo is undeafeated under the Zuffa banner. With current Pound for Pound top two Anderson Silva and Georges St. Pierre currently on the shelf for the forseeable future, it is hard to argue against putting Aldo into the top three following last nights win.
With an impressive striking and speed, coupled with his BJJ skills and takedown defence, many have long since been sold on Aldo's position in the top fve, myself included. With GSP on the decision streak to end all decision streaks, as the French Canadian seems less likely with each passing fight to put his opponent away, fans will look towards someone like Aldo (flashy striking, power, highlight reel Knockouts) to replace him as number two or three. With Jon Jones arguably having the best year of any Lightheavy weight to grace The Octagon, it is impossible to deny Jones the top spot or indeed second behind Anderson Silva. In my eyes at least, Jose Aldo sits firmly at number Three, with GSP in fourth and Frankie Edgar 5th.
At just 25 years old, "Junior" has the world at his feet. Currently the poster boy in a very stacked division, how far Aldo can go is anyones guess at this stage. With a near perfect 21-1 record, Aldo looks likely to dominate the 145 pound Feathweight division until he decides to make the move to 155, and then really cements his legacy as one of the greatest of all time.
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Further Reading: UFC 142 Wrap-Up: Barboza gets $130k, Palhares & Etim take home $65k
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1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Georges St. Pierre
4. Frankie Edgar
5. Jose Aldo
My opinion
1. Silva
2. Jones
3. Aldo
4. GSP
5 Cruz
1 - Anderson Silva
2 - Georges St-Pierre
3 - Jose Aldo
4 - Jon Jones
5 - Frankie Edgar
6 - Dominick Cruz
7 - Junior Dos Santos
8 - Cain Velasquez
9 - Urijah Faber
10 - Gray Maynard
I was tempted to but Aldo 3rd but I think GSP has faced much tougher competition through his title defenses.
1.me
2.myself
3.and irene
My opinion
You have to consider
- Level of competition
- Dominance
- Duration of dominance
1) Silva
2) GSP
3) Aldo
4) Jones
5) Edgar
You simply can't put anyone ahead of GSP and Silva at 1) and 2). They've been so dominant for so long. Aldo and Jones are close for third, and although Jones has been so dominant against such high level competition, Also has been dominant for longer, and beaten some very tough fighters. Frankie gets 5th mostly because he hasn't been as dominant as the guys above him. He had a close first fight with Penn and a close first title fight with Gray. The fact he is undersized for the weight class keeps him above Dos Santos and Cruz, who have been slightly more dominant against they're competition.
I agree with everything except Silva should not be in the top or 2nd to the top....Silva ranking dropped alot when he took an ass whipping by Sonnen. Dominance!!! Lebvel of Competition.
GSP has not lost and has dominated most all his opponents
Aldo had not lost and has dominated most all his opponents
Jones has dominated ALL his opponents (even his DQ to Hamil)
Edgar has not dominated all his oppnents....
JDS should rise to the top3 if he beats Allister.....
Silva has not lost to anyone in the UFC and GSP has. Silva has stepped up a weight class too, and won against guys at their strengths and only had 1 close call when he was injured and the competitor at a cheating advantage. GSP has dominated but never by the same degree as Anderson can.
Jones has only fought guys smaller than him.
it will be a year and a half between GSP's title defense, if he isnt fighting, he is moving down on my list.
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Jon Jones
3. Frankie Edgar
4. Jose Aldo
5. Dominick Cruz
1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Jose Aldo
4. Georges St. Pierre
5. Junior Dos Santos
1. Silva
2. Jones
3. Aldo
4. Georges Safe-Pierre
5. Frankie Edgar
6. JDS
7. Cruz
Love him or hate him you can't have a Top 5 P4P without Anderson Silva, sorry bud.
1. Butter Bean
2. Kimbo Slice
3. Mariusz Pudzianowski
4. Bob Sapp
5. Hong Man Choi
1. Anderson
2. GSP
3. Aldo
4. Cruz
5. Jones
6. Edgar
7. dos Santos
8. Benavidez
9. Diaz
10. Maynard
I would have Evans on their instead of Maynard.
No Tank Abbott?
He's number four for me just above Frankie but if he keeps this form like he did in WEC he'll be right up there with the greatest him vs Frankie is the best realistic P4P fight that could happen
Would love to see Edgar vs Aldo at 145 or 155,would make the list easier to make also
Hard to say who is No. 1,2,3.Aldo is top 3...Who did Aldo what Maynard did to Frankie in the fights? And GSP...he is my favourite fighter but must to say that Aldo is more impressive, especially after this victory.
How quick fans forget Mendes was smashing him with knees and would have probably slammed him and won the first round but for Aldo cheating with a blatant fence grab and the ref done nothing. Awesome finish, no question and he is a brilliant fighter but I think people are jumping the gun with Aldo putting him in the same bracket as GSP and others. Maybe in a couple of years.
1.Anderson Silva
2.GSP
3.Frankie Edgar
4.Jose Aldo
5.Jon Jones
There is no such thing as "pound for pound" fighter it is ridiculous. There is always someone better than you out there and there is no "best fighter" on the planet.
Tell that to Chuck Norris.
1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Jose Aldo
4. Georges St. Pierre
5. Frankie Edgar
Jose is def. above GSP... he never got knocked out (unlike GSP)... 13 KO victories.. 14 win streak.. Only reason he is not ranked 2 is cause Jones is unbeaten and has been in the UFC a lil longer...
Perfect list. Great job, man.
1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Jose Aldo
4. Georges St. Pierre
5. Frankie Edgar
Jose is def. above GSP... he never got knocked out (unlike GSP)... 13 KO victories.. 14 win streak.. Only reason he is not ranked 2 is cause Jones is unbeaten and has been in the UFC a lil longer...
1 - AS
2 - GSP
3 - Aldo
4 - Cruz
5 - Jones
p4p isn't a real thing so he belongs within the top 10 mixed martial artists alive today list.
1. Steven Seagal
2. Anderson Silva
3. Jon Jones
4. Georges St. Pierre
5. Frankie Edgar
6. Jose Aldo
Silva - Dominates in 2 weight classes
Jones - Dominates AND finishes
GSP - Doesn't finish but he doesn't lose rounds either.
Aldo - Above Edgar cause Aldo isn't in trouble as often.
Edgar - Always the underdog due to size but he delivers.
I think the claim that Silva dominates in 2 weight classes has lost some merit though, due to Forrest being lackluster since his Rampage fight. ..And Silva hasn't even attempted to take a crack at LHW's current top 5. Rest is spot on though, and Anderson does deserve that top spot due to the incredible precision to his finishes.
Fedor
Jesus
Chuck Norris
Seagal
Seal team six
In my opinion, it will be:
1 - Anderson Silva
2 - Jon Jones
3 - St. Pierre
4 - Jose Aldo
5 - Frankie Edgar
IMHO
1. Anderson Silva
2. George St. Pierre
3. Jon Jones
4. Jose Aldo
5. Dominic Cruz
1.Anderson Silva
2.GSP
3.Aldo
4.Jones
5.Cruz
6.Edgar
7.Dos Santos
8.Diaz
9.?
10.?
What this thread shows is how we rate fighters differently. Like it has been said p4p is a ficiticious ranking with no meaning other than symbolism, but personally I'm just glad MMA has come this far we have these debates.
I agree with you mostly but i wouldn't say it's ficticious as factually someone is the best but we cannot be certain so we have a ranking system based on votes for the best as we can yet distinguish who now is Anderson Silva as a majority by far. So yes there could be someone better but as of now he is the best concievable holder of that crown and it may be true as well as far as we know. Certainly in competitive and recorded fighting he has sold himself as number 1. Jon Jones is definetly making himself heard but he has yet to face anyone actually bigger than himself as he usually has a foot or so of reach advantages and is bigger in every way but his bambi legs he has a bit to catch Anderson. GSP is amazing but more on a sport related side than the fighting side of which he also is great at but just not on the same level as a very few others. Georges doen't have enough male parts to step in when he is next to sure to get a finish anymore like he used to have and other top fighters can score that finish when it is presented. Georges has had them presented on a silver platter and still hesitates enduringly until the bell. Doesn't put him out of contention but definetly sets him behind Anderson. Jose Aldo when in great shape is blasting his opponents out of the way. Anderson has brought a different and excelling level of creativity, skill and accuracy in his fighting that in my opinion will be the set bar for future p4p kings for a while. He wins fights in ways that should be reserved for movies and has always shocked with his wins. His only trouble seemed to be when he was not at his usual level. People all over want him to move up a division and for good reason but I haven't heard any fighters trying to move to 185 either to take the crown from him. P4p is a real thing just the accuracy of it's holder is harder to justify and therefore we rank based on common knowledge and proven ability to crown a king who will have to be proven not worthy by action and the sway of common knowledge and perception.
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P4P is ficticious as we all have different lists. It is often more a list of favourites than anything else. Fair play you have some objective reasoning to yours but it still boils down to favouritism at the end of the day. For me GSP has fewer weaknesses than Silva and is more well rounded so I put him ahead of him but that's just an opinion. these lists cannot be taken seriously.
Fair enough on your point. I feel it's real but that it cannot be legitimately judged until every person in the world weighs in and fights with no rounds at least 10 times against every other person. So for now I will take the chance that the current fighters fighting professionaly, who have the best records and dispatch methods will have the higher ranks amoung p4p contenders.