What Georges St. Pierre has to offer against Anderson Silva
Posted on February 6, 2011, 09:44 AM by Anton GurevichAnderson Silva improved his title defenses record to eight with an incredible first round victory over Vitor Belfort. “The Phenom” looked great in the first minutes of the fight, until getting caught with a never seen before front kick that sent him out cold down to the canvas.
That’s exactly what’s so irritating about Anderson Silva. Just when you think that at last he’s fighting against a worthy challenger, he pulls out a crazy move that immediately finishes the fight. But it’s also a sign of a pure fight genius. Anderson Silva proved last night he’s one of the all time greats, because only an all-time great could win a fight like that. Georges St. Pierre is next in line for Anderson Silva, of course if the French-Canadian will be able to beat Jake Shields at UFC 129 on April 30th.
No disrespect to Jake Shields, but let’s imagine we live in a perfect world and GSP defended his title for the sixth time at UFC 129. What “Rush” brings to the table against Anderson Silva? Quite a lot, actually.
What makes Georges St. Pierre such an amazing fighter is his intelligence. St. Pierre ahs an incredible ability to study opponents and to adapt his gameplan accordingly. Knowledge is power, and Georges St. Pierre proved it very well by the way he fought a complete mismatches in Jon Fitch, BJ Penn and Josh Koscheck.
Speaking about, Josh Koscheck. St. Pierre proved at UFC 125 how underrated his striking is, with a jab that some of the best boxers in the world would be jealous of. Many people mistakenly label GSP as a boring fighter, failing to see beauty in the way he fights. None of fighters in any weight class could win a fight like that. Like it or not, but GSP’s performance against Koscheck raised the striking bar in the world of Mixed Martial Arts. St. Pierre already fought some of the most dangerous strikers the Welterweight division has to offer, and made them look completely helpless.
Georges St. Pierre has a huge advantage being a shorter fighter, thanks to a better center of gravity. 5 foot 10 “Rush” will be carrying around 195 pounds on fight day, while the 6 foot 2 Anderson Silva will weight from 210 to 220 pounds. Anderson Silva’s main weakness is wrestlers and we all know how good St. Pierre’s wrestling is. It’s hard not to see GSP following the Chael Sonnen’s takedown-ground and pound pattern all the way to the victory against Anderson Silva.
It's a dream match-up. Both fighters are all-time greats, and will be each other’s toughest challenge yet. Anderson Silva vs. Georges St. Pierre is without a doubt the biggest fight in the history of the sport for ages to come. Silva, St. Pierre and Fedor are the best this sport has to offer. Watching two of them square off inside the cage would be the greatest moment of this sport so far.
MMA needs it, fans want it, and Jake Shields would do everything he can not to make it happen.
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The Phenom” looked great in the first minutes of the fight, until getting caught with a never seen before front kicked that sent him out cold down to the canvas.
First few minutes they just shuffled around and got the feel for each other. And then from that moment til about next week Vitor is going to be unconscious.
Wow, you really have to watch the fight again. Vitor won the exchanges and looked more aggressive all overall. Of course it's hard to tell from a few minutes - but I'm really sure he would give Silva some serious troubles throughout the fight.
From a promotion stand point I think that Anderson has nothing to gain by a fight with GSP.
If he loses it will be said that he was overrated all along, and if he wins he only beat a fighter that was much smaller than him.
I am a huge GSP fan and would love to see the fight, but I think Soares would be to smart to let it happen.
The first two minutes was circling and like one weak leg kick neither looked good Anderson got caught trying to throw a head kick quickly scrambled to his feet than more punches from Vitor but none really hit their mark more circling and cautiousness then bang front kick to the chin with a couple follow up punches. I would say Silva was more accurate having thrown only a few strikes then getting the KO
lol, that is what I thought happened too, but I'll watch the fight again to try and see what anton was talking about...
Im glad Silva won ! Cause everyone was cheering for Vitor ,even in the audience .
Silva didnt ask for respect ,he took it !
However , Im a little bit disapointed that silva didnt taunt Vitor during or after the fight. hahahaha
we all know anderson silva is a skilled smart guy! i knew 'if' silva was going too win ! it would be tko ko maybe! maybe a triangle ! so i was watching the fight no surprise vitor looks good still fast and powerful in all areas! silva always looked good from 220 185. seen vitor wanting to exchange seen silva getting out of vitors left. i think vitor took too long , should of just went after him like sonnen did. the first mistake was standing too long with silva. thats how silva plays mind games with people. 2nd for vitor was leaving his hands open in the middle of his body rite up too face and thoart ! silva seen it all that round and took it! really would like too see rematch with sonnen silva, than the champ face for belfort"s rematch dana will be making another match if silva if still champ!
As LowKick's recent article on this subject stated... It's all about Legacy.
Things like weight, reach, height, etc. They all have an influence on strategy and performance but they don't win fights.
Throughout the history of MMA, the best fighters in the world have been the ones who are the most tenacious, the most creative and the most aggressive.
Rashad Evans is much heavier than Anderson Silva on Fight day and training camp. GSP still dominates him with wrestling and technique in training.
When you're at that level... The better fighter is going to win. The 20-30 pound weight difference is miniscule and/or irrelevant. This will be a fight about who is the best fighter on the planet. Who is the smartest, most technical, most naturally gifted, in shape, heart filled, aggressive, tenacious, hungry fighter between the two of them.
THAT is what this fight will answer. No physical stats matter for this fight, only performance stats.
1000 percent agree with your point - but, it has to happen because we as fans want to know and see and to answer all those questions. I just hope that it does happen.
Great point.
Actually when your at that level i think its the first one to land a solid shot
Ok, I like GSP and i love to watch Silva fight, so here is how it think it will go down..
We could see a Cheal Sonnen repeat exept this time there will be a new champion! George has a very dominant wrestling style that is believed to be the best in MMA.
Next, if the anderson we saw against Thale or Cote shows up this could be a long night for GSP, and in this case it will all come down to the reach advantage of Silva or GSP's ability to get inside for a takedown.
Finaly we could see a flash knockout from Anderson, or a submission from GSP.
Hope yall like my comment and opinion!
IMO I think endurance may play a part in this as well. Silva seems to slow down and start to gas in later rounds although he manages to win anyway. Having said that, GSP regularly goes to 5 rounds and doesn't seem to slow down even in those later rounds.
Again, although I think GSP is extremely talented and exceptionally talented, I think alot of this fight depends on which Anderson we see. Do we see the timid "not wanting to be taken down" AS from Maia and Thales, or the aggressive AS from franklin, henderson and this recent fight with vitor.
thoughts?
impossible a submission from gsp. Silva's ground game is better then Gsp's.
Obviously he didn't give him any troubles. You need to watch the fight again. There were no exchanges that actually landed cleanly until a foot to the face. Vitor looked scared and hesitant got kicked in the face with a front kick. A front kick. Granted silva is amazing but that shows his timing was way off. I saw absolutely nothing that alluded to Vitor giving silva trouble.
I can imagine the lowkick staff members so angry and slamming their computers after Vitor got KO'ed....WAR VITOR....
It's just a JOKE, A.G, J.K, D.C ...Please don't ban me from Lowkick.
Vitor may have won the exchanges but not impressively. Most of his punches missed and the shots that connected didn't do damage because of the way that Silva was slipping.
after they shuffled feeling eachother out with fients to see how they'd react I knew Silva decided he had nothing to worry about when he went from a calm shuffle to the patented half dance shuffle and dropping his hands. Vitor caught him when he dropped his hands n Silva laughed it off. Silva saw something during their shuffle that gave him all the confidence in the world. Silva's ability to read fighters is epic!
@Anton
By early exchanges do you mean 1 left that glanced Silva and 1 takedown that Silva got up very quickly from before landing a knee ? Coz thats all all I remeber happening before your boy Vitor was layed out. And more agressive overall REALLY ? Silva always moves around like that even in the fights he looked impressive in and when he was doing that what did Vitor do ? NOTHING. Niether fighter seemed to want to exchange early on but Silva gets the flack for that beacuse of is previous antics.
I understand everyone has their own point of views, but I find that after ever Silva or GSP fight Anton writes a post about GSP. It's clear favortism.
Everyone is entitled to their favorites, but (in my opinion) the staff of the site should be a bit more neutral. Honestly it seems very unprofessional.
Reminds me of Fox news, lol.
@ UG lol man.
I think everyone knows by now im not a silva fan. but that was an awesome kick. not only that. but Vitor has never been KO'd.... i know he has tko losses but thats ref stoppages.but last night he was clearly out. cant say i was happy with the outcome.
Im still a Belfort fan. and still not a silva fan ;)
I dont get it... Why way to go to me?
I was just giving you props for being the only lowkick staff member who picked Silva to win.
Oic.. Thanks : )
@ Jamie
I think we probably had the same feeling when that kick happened - ugh.
I'm torn on this - obviously we have to give props to AS for it, but I was less that impressed with AS and how the fight started. I thought he was dancing and running away, again. I thought he only knows how to counter, he doesn't seem to be able to get on his own horse and hunt someone down. I thought Vitor won what exchanges they had; for whatever that's worth. And then...bam, it was over. I was underwhelmed to say the least. After waiting that long to see these two square off, hoping to see some epic battle, it came across more like a wet fart - sorry. I thought I was about to sit down to a great meal and I was served bread and water; just how I feel about it.
Concluding - I thought the fight was a major disappointment and not because my guy lost. My guy lost in the last fight with Silva, but it was one of the greatest MMA fights I've ever seen. Obviously, we cannot blame Anderson for winning quickly, but none-the-less I found the fight lacking; not a lot of meat on that bone.
To me as a AS fan and Vitor fan it was great. I am okay with a short fight if it is well ended and it was. I felt vitor was throwing more but only grazing the very quick AS. AS realized very early that this fight was pretty much in the bag at some point and when they went down and came back up it seemed AS was on fire and ready to finish it. Vitor seemed like many puzzled at the spiders escape speed and frustrated at his accuracy very quickly and although he was focused was caught by another surprising move by AS. great fight and great outcome.
@wing
wow Silva really has rubbed a lot fans up the wrong way for several of you to bring INSIGNIFICANT facts like the one left that Vitor landed, that was a glancing shot anyway. and what about the knee Silva landed when he got back to his feet. You say he can only counter strike, but the front kick wasn't a counter either.And when Silva was dancing around and running away what was Vitor doing ? NOTHING I picked Silva to win by TKO in the first because i trully believe this guy is the best P4P. As for Vitor a lot of people seem to think he was gonna do a sonnen and be very agressive WHY he didn't do that in his last fight in fact he was quite patient against Franklin. Maybe those OLD clips of him exploding on guys got to all the Silva haters.
I told you guys.... Pick against Silva and you will be let down. Everytime.
@ JPG
I'm still free to dream of the day when the exception proves the rule, though JPG.
@ mmaUK
In defense - if they come across as insignificant, it's simply because there isn't much fight video to pick apart. Subsequently, you go with what you got, which in this case, is to over analyze very little.
And I did expect VB to be very aggressive (Dana said so, as well) and why he wasn't, I have no idea. You can't go out there and dance and mess about with the guy; he's too good. The rounds he's lost (to Sonnen and Henderson) have been to aggressive wrestlers; period.
As to the GSP fight - GSP, if he doesn't go right out and bang go after the guy, he'll get laid out, too; just like every other idiot who thinks they can hang with him. AS is going to lose on the ground, if he's going to lose. I'm not convinced that GSP is going to be big enough and strong enough, to pull that off.
Cheers,
Wing Chun
he hunted franklin, leben, and cleverley with chael, AS finishes fights big when they are big, whats GSP done recently nowt really, 5 rounders UD with fitch, koscheck, thiago alves, hardy, even i could spark kos
If the fight were to happen (in a perfect world) I think Anderson has more ways to win. Now, having said that; IMO GSP will fight a smart fight as he always does. GSP's standup is not better than Silva's but I think it's good enough for GSP to be able to hang with him, then get inside Silva to set up his TakeDowns. from here GSP will likely dominate top control, and possibly get a submission or GnP for 5 rounds.
Silva could KO or submit from his back. But if the fight were to go to a decision most likely it will be St. Pierre winning. GSP will use the Chael Sonnen blueprint/gameplan. just my opinion.
"I think it's good enough for GSP to be able to hang with him"
If Vitor, Hendo, P.C, Forrest G, R, Franklin couldn't bang with Silva, what makes you think that GSP can?
I amokay with what you have said but I find it highly unlikely that AS would be submitted by GSP.
@ Jamie
Good opinion.
I agree with Jamie but if they fought I definitely see GSP wrestling and controlling AS for 25 minutes. That's the only way I can see that fight playing out.
"Anderson Silva improved his title defenses record to eight with an incredible first round victory over Vitor Belfort. “The Phenom” looked great in the first minutes of the fight, until getting caught with a never seen before front kicked that sent him out cold down to the canvas." GOD DAMMIT IT'S CALLED A WUSH KICK!! how come nobody ever have seen it?!
That front kick isnt really an offensive move its more of a defensive move to keep fighters at a distance and thats how people use it ...but saying that and the muay thai skills of Anderson all i have to say is DAM.......I think if that kick wouldnt have landed vitor would have giving anderson a run for his money... i would have loved to have seen Vitor pressure from the very beginning and being in his face...but props to anderson......
AND about GSP it think he would have a good chance of winning if the fight got to the ground lets not forget he has a great ground game training at Henzo gracie acadamy and recently with Eddie bravo adding some rubber gaurd stuff to his arsenal.....but a good fight over all i think it would be..
I don't think Gsp has a chance here I know it's an unpopular comment but I just don't. Silva is much bigger, much better reach, a lot taller, and a much better ground game. The only thing Gsp has is wrestling. If he can win by his normal dry humping fasion maybe but that's it. He will look tiny next to silva. Silva prob has faster twitch reflexes too so Gsp may find himself looking at the lights pretty quick.
I like Gsp I think he works incredibly hard and is a gentleman. A true martial artist and a gifted athlete. I just think the weight change in addition to silva being prob the best fighter in the world is a lot to overcome.
i cant wait to see wats next for Vitor, he is still a massive force at 185 or 205
I personally would like to see him fight more at 185. I think he should have taken a couple more fights at that weight before fighting AS but that's just me. Hopefully he can bounce back quick and not let this affect his head.
That was my opinion as well, but I kept it to myself because I didn't want to make any waves with those who believed Belfort would take him out. I was pretty confident that Silva would win via TKO/KO and thought that it was a bad move by Vitor and the UFC to put that fight together as his first match upon returning... I get it tho, there weren't to many contenders and I'm sure Vitor really wanted it. I just hate to think what it may have done to his marketability now. Guess we will have to wait and see how he bounces back.
I really feel bad for Vitor, but at the end of the day, he still has a gorgeous wife to go home to. Vitor is still the man in my book.
Anderson doesn't weigh more than 205 on fight night and probably less than that. He on;y weighs 220 when he is fat. It should be a good fight and GSP will hold his own if it happens but I see Silva getting a sub in the third.
I might believe this if I didn't see the Sonnen fight. I'm sure GSP is a minute and a half better than Chael.
All in all I think that GSP is better on the ground than Chael but Chael did something that GSP won't. Not only did Chael control Silva on the ground, he was also very busy with strikes on the ground. Because of this AS had to be more defensive and had a hard time throwing subs. GSP will be more methodical with his gnp and although that is the "correct" thing to do against a BJJ guy, in this case I think it will give AS the time he needs to work for the sub. This is why I see GSP getting subbed faster.
If Anderson needs a better challenge he should fight at 205. Winner of Jackson vs Thiago Silva would be a better matchup for him. Anderson has proved again that there is no competition for him in the middle weight division. GSP is a great fighter but I do not see him winning or giving any kind of trouble to Anderson Silva.
I do not want to see this fight - now. Later, Yes.
Come on, man. I am sick and tired of sitting around waiting on great fights, as we did last night, only to have it be (what was basically) a three second exchange and it's over.
If they are seriously talking about sidling the greatest fighter in 170 history and it's current champ, for the next year...all so he can prep for a "super" fight against Anderson Silva, then please don't. We just went through this with GSP and the nearly year lay off, for his fight with Koscheck and the filming of TUF.
Look man, I'm all for the fight...but not now. There are loads of fights for GSP to have at 170 over the next 2 years (Condit, Sanchez, Kampmann, Fitch/Penn), what is the rush (no pun intended)? Why does this fight have to happen, now? We just got him back, he's had one fight and now, it's...fight shields and take another year off? Come on, man. I'd rather see him fight the winner of Fitch/Penn and then Condit or Sanchez, then watch him "train" and get "updates" on how he's doing. I'm a fan, I want to see him fight. Let him truly clear out his division and then move up. And stay up, which is what he always said he would do.
And a question - why isn't anyone clamoring for AS to move up to 205 and take on John Jones or Shogun Rua? I know why, because he'd lose. Anderson prefers more certainty in his fights, where GSP truly enjoys a legitimate challenge.
i think the main reason anderson going to 205 makes no sense is because that division is still full of crazy good fights, and he champ is a long way from clearing it out....shoguns got bones, rampage, thiago silva, griffin and rashad to deal with before people should talk about fights against other divisions champs....anderson and gsp on the other hand have both cleared there divisions (or at least gsp will have if he beats shields, which i think he will) and the two of them are according to most #1 & 2 on th p4p list.....for me it makes all the sense in the world
also i take issue with your last paragraph. I know your a gsp fan but your basically insinuating that anderson is scared of a challenge whereas gsp is not....
Everyone is saying that AS should fight 205ers so I am a bitconfused by that comment. Most are saying shogun or jones. GSP is a cool idea too but I feel it is an easyish fight for AS because of GSP being a technical guy facing a guy who makes the rules of technique.
remember, AS offered to fight at 170 for GSP and GSP and Dana said no. GSP even went as far as to say that AS is his final goal and that when he is ready to retire that is when he wants to fight AS. That means he is the one who doesn't want the fight and AS was supposed to get that fight but when he made an ass outta himself and lost fan support Dana did not want GSP who is amoung the most loved in the UFC to lose to somebody who became amoung the most hated.
@ Corey
First - "Son"...if you've read anything of what I've written about GSP, here and on other posts (on this site) regarding his moving up to 185, you would "know" that I'm not a big fan of it. Why? Because he's too small. I believe that is your contention, is it not? For some of the people that you would list from Anderson's "victims" list and would many of them beat GSP - agreed. Again, Why? Because he's too small.
GSP can - exist and win @ 185 for "particular" opponents. It just so happens, that one of the guys on that list is The Champ, himself. GSP's superior wrestling and incredible cardio, pace, game-plan, focus and intelligence, "might" put him in a position to beat Silva on the ground. He has "no" chance with Anderson on the feet.
As to who Anderson has fought @ 205 - yawn. When he goes up and test the waters against the real big boys in that division, then lets see how he does; beating up Irvin and Griffin, doesn't and didn't impress me. I call Anderson in both those fights, handily. Those fights were a joke to him and he knew that long before the fight(s), ever took place. It's part of the reason why he's not worried about GSP. He's convinced in his head (and probably correctly) that he'll kick the crap out of GSP; and it's a great opportunity to grow the myth / legend that is Anderson Silva.
When he steps up to the plate to take on John Jones or Shogun Rua...Machida if they can make that happen...and beats them...then you'll have something to crow about. However, don't compare Silva "moving up" to fight Irvin and Griffin @ 205, as being on the same level as GSP "stepping up" to fight Anderson @ 185; not even close.
As to GSP & Koscheck / Hardy: Let's see...he broke Koscheck's orbital bone and JK won't be fighting for (from the date of the fight)...what 9 months, at least. If the doctor and the referee failed to stop the fight, as they should have and the fighter is stupid enough to continue on and risk his career for the sake of a shit kicking and it was a shit kicking, then you can't blame GSP. Go back and watch that end of 4th round, in the corner, when they tried to touch his eye. Go back and watch the last minutes of the 5th round and watch JK try and protect that eye - he was done, man. He was so bad, the hospital wouldn't let him fly home. He had to drive to Boston to seek medical attention. If that is not a failure of a doctor to stop a fight, for the benefit of a fighters health, then I don't know what is. He ####ed up Koscheck - period.
Dan Hardy - I might give you this one. It's not that he couldn't have finished Hardy, twice (particularly on the second attempt), but rather he didn't have the balls to break the guys arm. He wouldn't do it. Go watch the fight and watch GSP look up at the ref...are you really going to make me break this guy's arm? GSP needs more of a Frank Mir attitude on this subject - he should have just broken Hardy's arm.
It's part of the problem with refereeing in MMA, when it comes to "breaking". Many of them will stand there and basically say...okay, you have to break this guy's arm and potentially end his career, because he refuses to tap. Now, do you have the guts to snap the man's arm, elbow, shoulder etc.? That's the type of stuff that keeps MMA from being legalized everywhere and accepted, by a broader public. I personally, would rather see a ref stop a fight, because the position looks "dangerous" and "perceives" it as dangerous and then have a debate about whether or not it was the "right" call, than to force a fighter like GSP to have to snap a man's scapula, in order to win a piece of leather; but that's just me. It's a sport, not dog fighting. The fighter's opinion of the fight and his condition in the fight, is inconsequential. The referees should be empowered to make that call for the benefit of the fighter, the sport and it's reputation as a clean, honorable and even family friendly event. I personally would not watch it, if I thought I had to worry about seeing guys getting their limbs snapped off, on a regular basis. Just wouldn't be my thing.
Anyway - Hardy was the beneficiary of a gentlemen, that night. Had GSP had Frank Mir's attitude towards ground fighting, Hardy would have gotten his arm snapped; twice.
...and that, is reality.
Wing Chun
@WingChun
What is the rush? Haha oh pun intended sir! I agree with your point that I'm not chomping at the bit to see this fight. If it happens it happens but I would be more excited to see it when GSP himself is ready to move up in weight. I don't want to see him do it just because Dana wants it or we want it.
@ Partboy
You are free to take issue with my statement. However, I stand by it. GSP will go up and fight Anderson and that's a chunk-and-a-half to bite off. He's not going up to fight Chris Leben or Jorge Rivera, which "might" be the equivalent of Anderson's fights against Irvin and Griffin. No, GSP is going up to fight the boss of the division. For Anderson to accomplish the same thing, he would have to fight Rua, Jones or (maybe) Machida, he has shown no interest in doing so and I think he is reluctant to do so; all I'm saying. Anderson likes his "man of steel" image and I (personally) don't think that he's anxious to test it against someone "he" thinks might seriously have a shot at smoking him. There are some people at 205 that could well do that. GSP, coming up, IMO, is not a huge challenge to Anderson; or at least not Anderson's own opinon. I don't think for a second that he's concerned about GSP; where GSP will most certainly be concerned about Anderson.
Concluding - I think GSP looks forward to and is more willing to engage in the dangerous challenge. If Anderson moves up and takes on the Rua or Jones, I'll change my opinion.
And for the record - yes, I am a GSP fan, but I'm also an Anderson fan. I am a huge fan of the man "in" the ring, when he's fighting and engaging. When he does that he's not so much a fighter as he is an artist.
Cheers,
Wing Chun
@ JPG
Absolutely. And I'm kind of left with the impression that GSP has no choice in the matter; it's as if he's being told, simply because Dana wants to see the fight.
I'm for the fight, don't get me wrong, but I just wish it was being done on some kind of schedule and plan. One thing I'm unsure of...if GSP goes up, is that it for 170? Because as much as I like him and I give him a reasonable shot at beating Silva on the ground (only), I don't think he'd hold the belt long. The division is too big for him - IMO. If he steps up there, he's just another fish; one with a spotty record. Could you seriously imagine GSP squaring off again Okami, as an example. There are people he could beat at 185 yes, including, possibly The Champ, but there are other fighters up there, that he would not. If he goes up for one fight - fine. However to say, I believe, is a bad business move. Again, you don't hear anyone screaming at AS to move up to 205 and fight Jones or Rua.
Cheers,
Wing Chun
Silva did say he'd drop to 170 to fight GSP, he should try and hold him to that or at least catchweight. GSP does not need much more muscle on his frame,it won't benefit him much and if anything just impair his cardio in the later rounds. I hope his team are telling him this if he has not thought about it himself.
This would be one of the biggest mismatches in MMA history.
GSP has no chin. He wins fights (since losing/being KTFO by Serra) by playing it safe and following a strict and all to often, boring fight plan.
he wouldn't get away with any of that with Silva.
Besides, GSP would be at a HUGE disadvantage having to face a champion like Silva as his first fight in a heavier weight class. Not to mention GSP first has to get by Jake. Which apparently, Dana and most here see as walk in the park. the fight with jake will be NO walk in the park!
A fight between Shogun and Silva is the most logical and evenly matched fight out there for Silva. Silva walks around in the low 200s to begin with and he has already a couple of break in fight in the weight class.
vitor has no chin too, cause he got ko by a front kick.
Ur a f-ing hater and a AS nutthugger, so make some arguments that have senses.
lol, hate to break it to you but I am not a AS fan by any means. I had Belfort KOing AS in the first round.
With that said, take the marbles out of your mouth...errrmm...hand and write in English that makes sense.
GSP has NO chin! Many in the 185 division would hand GSP problems either standing or on the ground.
You are a dummy, is that english that make sense to you.
the size is the thing that i don't like in that fight. After gsp beat bj, people were complaining about the size. I think the size and height advantage is worst in this matchup.
Anderson's weakness is still takedown defense and wrestling. Even the Belfort fight showed that. Vitor took him down and could have had side control, but instead he immediately went for a punch without establishing position and Anderson was able to get back up. GSP would not make that kind of mistake.
The size advantage really will be a problem for GSP, though. GSP has never fought a guy as big and tall as Anderson, and definitely not someone with his striking skill. But I've seen GSP manhandle bigger guys in training vids, and if there's anything we learned from Royce Gracie it's that good ground control can neutralize bigger strikers.
Vitor gave Anderson too much time to think.
Chael was so successful because he went across they ring and said "Hey, ok, lets ****ing fight" and went after him.
yep, its that few seconds of hesitation which cost him the fight.
I really do not want this fight to happen. It's such a hard fight for GSP to win, its sort of useless. I think Anderson is the one who needs to go to 205 and have super fights there. He's already somewhat proven himself, and he definitely has the right body type and weight to enable him to smoothly transition to 205 and be very competitive. I can't even imagine GSP as a middleweight honestly. With those little chick legs and that skinny waist I mean come on lets get real here. I think he is PERFECT for 170/ This is how a fight with anderson would go, and I am assuming a GSP is at his absolute best...
Ok, so GSP is an extremely talented athlete and fighter, but the most impressive thing about him is his mental game, and how he puts his absolute trust in his coaching and game planning and goes into a fight and executes it to a tee. He also has a very long reach (close to andersons), and a beauty of a jab. Even though his standup is great, he would be a fool to throw anything besides a jab against Anderson. I think the way to beat Anderson is to not let him find his range by rushing him off the bat either with takedowns or punches (if Vitor did this, I think he very well could have won). GSP cannot do this because he doesn't have the power to finish him, but of course he could get a take down, but then what???? He won't be able to do anything on the ground to Anderson, that lanky legged sunuvagun would wrap his legs around GSP's little waist and he wouldn't be able to advance his position or posture up in the slightest. He would eventually get KO'ed, or maybe eek out aborign decision if hes lucky, but i doubt it.
Don't get me wrong, if GSP had Sonnens natural weight and frame, he would kill Anderson IMO. But as it stands now, I do not see GSP getting the W, and I think its a bad fight. I REALLY want to see Anderson vs Rashad personally, but ofcourse Shogun or Jones would do. But Anderson only has a few years left of fighting at his maximum ability, and I think if he doesn't want to move up, he should at least do some catch weights with bigger guys.
Also I would love to see him fight Jacare. He's a big strong athletic guy with insane BJJ. That would be awsome, but likely it will never happen.
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I also think AS should go to LHW. There are way more fights for him there than GSP at middleweight.
GSP has chicken legs?
He's got legs like tree trunks.
I can't believe Anderson Silva really just Sparta-kicked Vitor out cold. I seriously almost shet myself 0.0
WAR GSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great post, and anything can happen, ppl are saying that gsp would finish what chael started but he's not as aggressive as chael and i doubt he would be able to hold him down bc of silva's size advantage. but gsp is so much better and more experienced than chael and anything can happen.
i dont think GSP showed how underrated his striking is in the Koscheck fight he just showed how overrated Koschecks is.
GSP will get the same treatment im afraid guys, GSP did very well against koscheck, fitch, bj penn, and thiago alves, but lets face it AS is on a different level to the guys in WW, i been watching UFC MMA for 3 years and never miss i never seen GSP stop someone yet on the ground via KO nothing apart from bj and he was moving up in class for the fight and bit off more than he could chew
how the hell will GSP beat silva?
wrestling? he got to get him to the ground first and then beat him up?
i dont buy this i was looking at some old fights and GSP got wobbly legs with serra, anderson will pepper pot him with power shots and knock him out as easy as he did with vitor
What the F*ck u mean by: "“The Phenom looked great in the first minutes of the fight"...
What exactly did he do to look great??? Dance along with The Spider in circles til he got Kicked the f*ck out... That little takedown was nothing.. Silva bounced back on his feet in a second like a Slinky... Knee'd Vitor in the face... danced a couple more circles around him and nearly kicked his head off his chest....
There's more to fighting than just exchanging wild punches like Zombie-Garcia. Vitor was aggressive, closed distance very well... he was ready for this fight.
Errr... my brain is going to explode explaining this over and over again. Watch the fight.
If you watch the fight this is what you will see(that is significant). Vitor land a clean 1 to to Anderson, then Anderson go for a soft head kick with his lead leg, get taken down, Vitor takes 2 wild grazing swings, they get up, Anderson knees him (but from the angle its hard to tell how well it landed because Vitor's back blocks the camera angle). Some more feeling out, Vitor throws a few punches that Anderson evades, but there is not a great amount of commitment behind the punches. Then they are standing there and Andy lands the kick....
Now you can look at this two ways, Anderson took a few minutes to find his range, then once he did it was over, and he is just that insanely talented. And that is based on the fact he dodged Vitors second batch of punches and landed the kick. SO even if that kick didn't get thrown, he already had his range and it was just a matter of time.....
That could very well be true, I personally think it was just a genius move by Anderson, and Vitor never saw it coming. However, if Vitor was more aggereisve early with his punches, he would have put Andy in danger. Chael Sonnen did not let Anderson get comfortable at all, Vitor did, and that's why he lost. I GUARENTEE if GSP fights him, there will be no sizing up, unless he is supremely confident in his ability to keep distance ect. (which he is really good at).
All in all, pure genious by Andy, i was in shock, and watever way you look at it, he won and he won in devestating fashion, so there is nothing you can do but be amazed by him and his abilities.
It's funny how people keep bringing up that Chael Sonnen fight like Chael would be able to "repeat" what he did.. YES.. Chael had Silva's number in that fight.. til he made a mistake and Silva capitalized on it like a true champion... BUT... 2 things... 1. That experience gave Anderson the opportunity to grow, did y'all see how he bounced up after Vitor took him down... He worked on that and another big point is... Anderson's ribs were ****ed up when he went in with Chael.. ****ed up ribs mean... NO CORE STRENGTH !! Everything Silva does comes from his CORE... without your CORE you have NO takedown defense, NO wrestling, NO submissions off your back cause you you lack mobility especially with a heavy ass Sonnen on top of you, NO effective grappling and not even a decent stand up cause u can't turn your hips in and throw powerkicks... and can't really throw any powerpunches.. he had no BASE whatsoever going into that fight because of that injury my guess is Silva would demolish Sonnen in a rematch and he underestimated Chael when he went into that fight injured! That was pure ****iness on Silva's behalf...... GSP's stand up is not on SILVA's level and i seriously doubt that if he takes Silva down, that he can keep him there.. he'll be up on his feet in a second. Also GSP's BJJ is great... but its not as good as Silva's....
I think anderson should fight gsp cause that be an easy w for him. Anderson should fight the winner of jones n rua.
This is an incredibly tough fight to call, and for anyone to say it's going to be a walkover for either fighter is just plain stupid.
Props to Anderson for an incredible win against a very legitimate opponent in Belfort, but he was facing a striker, which is never a good game plan when fighting Silva. I don't think GSP will try and stand and bang with him, he wouldn't last much longer than Belfort. However, GSP has a great camp who will undoubtly give him an excellent game plan and GSP will do what he does best, go in there and excecute it against top level fighters.
However, GSP has not fought anyone of Silva's skill, except for a off form and untrained BJ Penn. This will truely be a test for both of these men, and it depends on a number of factors. How much weight will GSP be able to add on in the six to eight months he has asked for, and will it hinder his game at all?
Also, it depends on what Anderson will show up. If it's the same Anderson that showed up against Cote and Maia, it's going to be a short night for him, GSP will make quick work of him, but against Belfort, he proved that when faced with a legitimate challenger he really steps up to the plate. However, I feel the only chance Anderson has of stopping GSP is if GSP decides to stand and trade with him, which is unlikely, or if he manages to use his reach to his advantage, keeping GSP on the outside and picking him apart. If this does not happen, I can't help but think it will just be another Sonnen style match, but with GSP the victor.
Either way, if this fight is to happen I cannot wait for it to finally settle who is the pound for pound best fighter in the world.
Yeah, it is hard to call. In my opinion, it's going to be more of a mental match up than anything.
Both fighters are strong in the areas that their opponent is weak to. Silva has amazing striking which is GSPs primary weakness. GSP has amazing wrestling with is Silvas primary weakness.
It will all come down to winning the mental battle and gameplans.
I wouldn't say either are weak ground or standing but against each other that would be their comparitive weaknesses.
What are you talking about? Silva specifically said it was ONE OF the kicks he practiced.
Haters gona find anything to hate on I guess.
Actually he planned all that just to piss you off and it worked.
I really get a smile out of the wrangling that happens after a big fight. It's all part of being a rabid fan I suppose.
When GSP wins by a dominant decision, you know it was not luck and that if the same fighter fought him in the future, he would lose--barring a lucky shot. But even though fans get their money's worth and see a full five rounds of fighting, they claim it is boring.
When Anderson Silva wins (or others) by a quick KO, there is always the niggling feeling that it was a lucky shot, and under other circumstances, maybe the loser would have put up a better fight. The fight was exciting, but fans feel they somehow didn't get their money's worth.
Bottom line is that it seems for some fans, you can never satisfy them.
I remember watching Mike Tyson fights, after weeks of anticipation, and preparation of beer and chips, and with all your buddies over--when he would win in a few minutes by devastating KO--and it was exciting, but exciting like a premature ejaculation--fun while it lasted, but leaving one vaguely dissatistied and wondering what to do now its over. (so I hear ' ))
My take on the GSP vs. Silva fight is that GSP has been railroaded into a fight that he is not enthusiastic about. I don't believe he is afraid, but he is only justifiably wary. When asked about the possiblity of a fight in a higher weight class, he makes the polite responses, because no fighter wants to admit trepidation about fighting above his weight class with a MW legend who could easily be a LHW.
Dana White listens to fans and gives them what they want--because that is where the money is. For a while, there was more money in GSP staying in WW--but now that GSP must fight mostly rematches--Dana is worried about promoting such fights.
Bear in mind that Dana has been nagging Anderson Silva to move up to LHW permanently, but Silva, after his brief foray in LHW, wants no part of that plan. So Dana is working on getting GSP to move up to MW, using GSPs own pride against him, in order to respond to fan's obsession with this fight.
I don't think it is impossible that GSP could defeat Silva, but I think the odds are stacked against him. I subscribe to the belief that a good big fighter will usually defeat a good small fighter--if everything else is equal.
Dana White admits he has not cleared this with GSP, so what is going on? Dana White knows Anderson Silva will NOT move up to LHW, so he is using publicity and stoking fan demands to pressure GSP into a so-called superfight.
BTW: GSP's first name is spelled Georges
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Agreed - with your analysis of the pressure on GSP and the reluctance of Silva to move up.
Actually, a year ago when Belfort first had to pull out of the fight, Silva wanted to move up to LHW or even HW, but Dana would not let him.
Dana forced him in to the fight with Maia, which is why he made a statement in such a weird fashion.
I think AS is happy to move up as long as his friends aren't the ones he has to fight as proved by the Griffin and Cote fights. If Rashad gets up there or Jones then we may see him go up especially if his friends aren't in the immediate title shot spots. AS hasw fought in 3 different weight classes in his career and I doubt he is scared of any of them. He even challenged GSP at 170 which IMO would be a huge dissadvantage for him cutting that much weight and be more challenging than moving up to 205.
I am pretty sure AS's challenge to move down to 170 was merely posturing. Notice he dropped that idea pretty fast, and we haven't heard a peep about it since.
As for LHW, AS said he did not want to move up because of Machida being champ, and they were team mates. Shogun is not a team mate, and Shogun has said he would fight AS if that's what the UFC wanted--saying he is a professional fighter. (gotta love his attitude)
So why is AS not moving up to LHW now Machida is no longer champion?
I think if he seriously wanted to move up to LHW, he would be there now.
He may do it soon but the fact is that he had a friend in the mix for quite a while. Why do you think AS challenge was just posturing since the only reason he was not allowed the fight at 170 was because of Dana after 112. AS has fought there before and lighter so I feel he was sincere. Only Dana and GSP have given reasons for not doing it.
Wow, your typing is a pain to read. And anyone who claims Belfort just watched it come has to rewatch the kick again w/o the slow motion. By the time he was able to tell what was coming he barely had time to flinch. You can see the flinch in the replay, it was just so fast and unexpected.
Anthony "Showtime" Pettis high kick the way better ! But Anderson Silva kick is a perfect "timing" is the point and I gave him a lot of credit for that as well as Steve Segal helped him .imo
Yeah, Showtimes kick was flashier... but Silvas was crazy in a different way. It was so fast and unexpected that by the time Belfort realized what was coming he could not do a thing about it.
Still with the same tired old conspiracy theories that you had last year lol.
Doesnt even make sense, you say they wanted to get rid of BJ, yet BJ is still and has been around ever since then.
I find it crazy that you say UFC match making is corrupt with the fiascos that go on with SF matchmaking. You dont even have to have a single fight in the company to become #1 contender there, and they screwed their HW champ on fights for years. I would love it if they had actual rankings.
Besides, it's already been confirmed that if GSP wins vs Shields it is going to be GSP vs Silva. If conspiracy theories are going to be your thing at least come up with some that arent going to be disproved in 2 months! If your going to do something, at least do it right!
wouldn't it be great if shields spoiled all of this just by winning ? :)
I doubt he will, but it would be funny. And it wouldnt be the first time he spoiled a fight - look how things went with Hendo!
oh yeah, the hendo fight! lol!
Silva won that all you have to say!....
has for the GSP vs ASS (Anderson Spider Silva)
i dont see it being a good fight..but thats just me!
how ever it well say who is the best P4P king
This has been the most anticipated fight in recent history and will probably go down as the biggest mma fight ever if it happens. That said I am starting to want to see Silva Jones match up just as much, as it will be interesting to see if Silva can handle someone his own size and who has dominated everyone thus far and will probably dominate Rua.
Silva has little to gain against GSP as if he wins we all know he has huge size advantage and reach advantage, but there is a very good chance GSP dominates him like Sonnen did but without tiring and being wide open to submissions like Sonnen is and then Silva will go way down in some peoples regard. If he fights someone like Jones and wins he will have a valid claim on that p4p title and if he loses he will only go down a fraction in peoples regard of him as Jones seems like a new breed of fighter who has yet to be tested by anyone.
PS: I don't believe Silva is p4p #1 but if he was to beat GSP and Jones it would be hard to argue against it.
Silva needs better wrestling if he wants a shot at beating GSP. He will have a much harder time subbing George than he did Chael and even that was no picnic. The problem is the only good wrestler Black House has (to my knowledge) is Munoz, so how Silva plans on improving his wrestling is beyond me. Than again Silva could always knock GSP out, but George always seems to have great game-plans against strikers.
People are forgetting that chael is a better wrestler than gsp and weighs much more. Not saying gsp's wrestling is not fantastic, just stating a couple of things here and there.
I only see gsp winning if some how he could make AS fear his stand up. Then he can fake with strikes and go for a takedown instead.
GSP has like a 5% chance of beating Silva. He can't outstrike him, he isn't better than him on the ground, he is way smaller. The only chance he has is to LnP for 5 rounds and I don't think he could pull that off against Silva.