UFC still only tests their fights just before a fight, it doesn't take all that long for the stuff to go out of your system. So yes there is steroid use in the UFC, I've seen comments by fighters that have said that only an idiot would get caught taking steroids in the UFC, point being that its easily to avoid getting caught.
If Zuffa really wanted to do stop it they would have to do random drug tests all the time.
As for it being important to Zuffa to build the sport its not, its important for Zuffa to make money and if they started randomly drug testing people right now they would probably have to cut a lot of fighters, which would be very bad for the UFC.
I feel bad if you believe only a handfull of fighter/athletes take steroids. Just because they can pass a test usually on a known date the day before, and after a fight. Look back at all the positive test most of them tested positive when they get tested earlier evan as much as one day, or random test. The bottom line is alot of fighter juice just like any other althlete.
well you can rotate in and out of using to keep them out of your DTs. thats why GSP said he was up for random drug tests, because they dont do that right now and because of the drug rotation. its like the military people who want to smoke weed but get a DT once a month. its called 2 on 2 off (smoke for 2 weeks, work out and put on new fats for 2 weeks so you piss clean) its a similar principle
u can take roids and pass tests,by a trick called cycling
The primary reason why bodybuilders cycle steroids is to reduce the risk of side effects. It's well known that the risk of side effects greatly increases with the length of time the person is on the drugs. A short 6 to 8 week cycle will probably not produce any serious medical issues, but most bodybuilders don't limit themselves to such short cycles. They stay on for months, if not years at a time. It's not surprising that many of these individuals start suffering side effects
A second reason for anabolic steroids cycling is to beat drug tests. Bodybuilders and other athletes got a free rise for the first 15 to 20 years of drug use, as a test for steroids wasn't developed until the mid 1970's. The first tests were easy to beat but it wasn't long before the testers had closed the gap. By cycling the drugs between long acting and short acting, bodybuilders can often pass their drug test on contest day
A third reason for cycling steroids is to increase their effectiveness. Most users report that they made their best gains on their first cycle. This is because their systems were not used to the drugs. But with each additional cycle their steroid receptors become less responsive to the drugs. This is why heavy users stay heavy users - small amounts just don't produce significant results anymore. This "down regulation" of steroid receptors is one of the primary reasons why the first cycle of steroids is usually the most effective.
The problem with Cycling.
Even though most intelligent bodybuilders realize that cycling is the way to go, it's not foolproof. Some individuals are very sensitive to the effects of these drugs. Even by alternating periods of usage with non-usage they may still develop medical problems. No one knows exactly how a drug will affect a person's body until he starts using it. By then it may be too late.
Anabolic Steroids cycling is no longer a guaranteed method for passing a drug test. Tests are becoming more and more sophisticated and many steroids can be traced as far back as 18 months from their last usage. Even some of the short acting, fast clearing oral drugs are being picked up in drug tests. Even if an athlete cycled steroids to beat a drug test and reduce the risk of side effects, the bottom line is that as of 1991, steroid laws have made anabolic steroids illegal substances.
You know,some product stay in the system(body) for only 24 hours,if a fighters train for 3 months using steroid and stop using them a week or so before is fight,he is not gonna test "positive" and still have pretty much all the physical benefit that the steroid gave him.
The drug test before and after the fight is just to make sure that nobody is using steroid for the fight itself.
Let's face it,there are steroid in every professional sport,cycling,hockey,football,baseball ....if a quite relax sport like baseball have steroid user,it's very stupid to think that nobody using steroid in MMA cause that's probably one of the most demanding sport physicaly speaking.
I remember they asked a bunch of athletes if they could take a pill that would allow them to be the best in their sport for something like 10 years and that after that they would die, would they take it. As I remember around 70% said that they would.
Certainly have to wonder. I thought testing was better than it appears reading these posts. Maybe they do need olympic standard testing introduced. Mayweather has been calling for it in boxing, and it would be good to see in mma. I wouldn't mind seeing 2 leagues though, 1 where fighters can freely take steroids, as if it is legal there is a better chance of having usage regulated and reducing the risks to the fighters. having it illegal vastly increases the risk of substance abuse.
Steroid symptoms are detectable, look at GSP voice when he fought mayhem miller, and his voice now, am not sure it he uses it now but defiantly some time when he was growing as a fighter. Koscheck Was smart for asking to apply Olympic testing, someone learned a tip from Mayweather.
I doubt 50%. Most of these guys, like Conseco, are trying to justify and rationalize their own illegal drug use. There is money involved, so some people with cheat, that's always going to be the case. 50% seems high though. Sherk was the champion when he was stripped, and Diaz got kicked out for weed I believe. Obviously the UFC doesn't protect fighters from drug screening.
I know Lashley was not tested before his Strikeforce match though.
Projecting his own shortcomings on others..... He says he knows a lot of people in the industry.... So what? Its not as tho fighters are walking around bragging about it if they are using....
He's just saying that because HE got caught using it. He's trying to justify why he used it and why he was "unfairly" (in his opinion) treated.
If everybody was indeed using it, either a lot more people would get caught, or none of them would, because they would know exactly what to do to "flush it out" of their system. After all, don't they all get tested the same way? The fact the the test is finding some people on it means the test is working properly.
May just be some fighters dont flush it out, if it can be done and dont dodge the tests correctly. I agree though that the ufc does not protect fighters, but i do wonder how thorough their testing regime is.
Would be nice to have main event fighters especially have tests like every week for the last 3 months before the fight. Until that time we will have this problem.
Yea i remember saying this. There are over 700 different types of steroids, and that doesn't even include drugs that "enhance performance" but are not necessarily steroids. Ofcourse there are going to be alot of users that don't get caught, they only test for a handful.
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Is this guy serious?
I hope not, I mean if 50% of those fighters were taking steroids then why would they still be in the octigon.
OK over seas maybe...and damn for a combat sport you think you would
see more rage and some guys losing composure more often instead
of the sportsmanship and respect given besides all the testing and
places like Canada were they are very serious on how they will look
do extensive testing for UFC I would say none to very few, its just to important for them as in building the sport now as for others trying to
keep up,i dont know,a couple months ago dude got jump hoping to promote a fight and was in line for rematch...in the UFC its promoted
like that all the time.....but for the most part as in all MMA even smaller
shows yeah maybe but as UFC and WEC no......Zuffa has worked to hard to make the sport grow.....
UFC still only tests their fights just before a fight, it doesn't take all that long for the stuff to go out of your system. So yes there is steroid use in the UFC, I've seen comments by fighters that have said that only an idiot would get caught taking steroids in the UFC, point being that its easily to avoid getting caught.
If Zuffa really wanted to do stop it they would have to do random drug tests all the time.
As for it being important to Zuffa to build the sport its not, its important for Zuffa to make money and if they started randomly drug testing people right now they would probably have to cut a lot of fighters, which would be very bad for the UFC.
my grandma take steroids too.
only 50%? i wish all athletes took steroids. imagine that!
I feel bad if you believe only a handfull of fighter/athletes take steroids. Just because they can pass a test usually on a known date the day before, and after a fight. Look back at all the positive test most of them tested positive when they get tested earlier evan as much as one day, or random test. The bottom line is alot of fighter juice just like any other althlete.
Steroids make your willy shrink.
well you can rotate in and out of using to keep them out of your DTs. thats why GSP said he was up for random drug tests, because they dont do that right now and because of the drug rotation. its like the military people who want to smoke weed but get a DT once a month. its called 2 on 2 off (smoke for 2 weeks, work out and put on new fats for 2 weeks so you piss clean) its a similar principle
For real. and thats the one part of the male anatomy that we CANT make bigger.
oh, so its going to be one of those kinda threads hahaa
Sure thats why you hear sooo much of it... . Man these guys get tested before AND after their fights. So where is the sence?
u can take roids and pass tests,by a trick called cycling
The primary reason why bodybuilders cycle steroids is to reduce the risk of side effects. It's well known that the risk of side effects greatly increases with the length of time the person is on the drugs. A short 6 to 8 week cycle will probably not produce any serious medical issues, but most bodybuilders don't limit themselves to such short cycles. They stay on for months, if not years at a time. It's not surprising that many of these individuals start suffering side effects
A second reason for anabolic steroids cycling is to beat drug tests. Bodybuilders and other athletes got a free rise for the first 15 to 20 years of drug use, as a test for steroids wasn't developed until the mid 1970's. The first tests were easy to beat but it wasn't long before the testers had closed the gap. By cycling the drugs between long acting and short acting, bodybuilders can often pass their drug test on contest day
A third reason for cycling steroids is to increase their effectiveness. Most users report that they made their best gains on their first cycle. This is because their systems were not used to the drugs. But with each additional cycle their steroid receptors become less responsive to the drugs. This is why heavy users stay heavy users - small amounts just don't produce significant results anymore. This "down regulation" of steroid receptors is one of the primary reasons why the first cycle of steroids is usually the most effective.
The problem with Cycling.
Even though most intelligent bodybuilders realize that cycling is the way to go, it's not foolproof. Some individuals are very sensitive to the effects of these drugs. Even by alternating periods of usage with non-usage they may still develop medical problems. No one knows exactly how a drug will affect a person's body until he starts using it. By then it may be too late.
Anabolic Steroids cycling is no longer a guaranteed method for passing a drug test. Tests are becoming more and more sophisticated and many steroids can be traced as far back as 18 months from their last usage. Even some of the short acting, fast clearing oral drugs are being picked up in drug tests. Even if an athlete cycled steroids to beat a drug test and reduce the risk of side effects, the bottom line is that as of 1991, steroid laws have made anabolic steroids illegal substances.
biggest comment ever!!!!
I sharped that just for all the propper puncuation. Looking forward to tommorow nite tapout!
Haha, site ur source man.... That HAD to be a copy paste! To long and well punctuated! If I am wrong, dont take it personally or anything...
You know,some product stay in the system(body) for only 24 hours,if a fighters train for 3 months using steroid and stop using them a week or so before is fight,he is not gonna test "positive" and still have pretty much all the physical benefit that the steroid gave him.
The drug test before and after the fight is just to make sure that nobody is using steroid for the fight itself.
Let's face it,there are steroid in every professional sport,cycling,hockey,football,baseball ....if a quite relax sport like baseball have steroid user,it's very stupid to think that nobody using steroid in MMA cause that's probably one of the most demanding sport physicaly speaking.
But of course,nobody is gonna admit it.
I remember they asked a bunch of athletes if they could take a pill that would allow them to be the best in their sport for something like 10 years and that after that they would die, would they take it. As I remember around 70% said that they would.
Certainly have to wonder. I thought testing was better than it appears reading these posts. Maybe they do need olympic standard testing introduced. Mayweather has been calling for it in boxing, and it would be good to see in mma. I wouldn't mind seeing 2 leagues though, 1 where fighters can freely take steroids, as if it is legal there is a better chance of having usage regulated and reducing the risks to the fighters. having it illegal vastly increases the risk of substance abuse.
so is saying roy nelson is on steriod?
There ARE fighters using steriods. If you don't believe that, you are very nieve. Who knows how many? I would hope it's not a lot.
I simply don't believe it.
I believe it some of them involved with steriods
BJ commended should be some of the reason
Steroid symptoms are detectable, look at GSP voice when he fought mayhem miller, and his voice now, am not sure it he uses it now but defiantly some time when he was growing as a fighter. Koscheck Was smart for asking to apply Olympic testing, someone learned a tip from Mayweather.
you can't bad mouth GSP or you will get weaked, i gave you a sharp to make up for it.
I doubt 50%. Most of these guys, like Conseco, are trying to justify and rationalize their own illegal drug use. There is money involved, so some people with cheat, that's always going to be the case. 50% seems high though. Sherk was the champion when he was stripped, and Diaz got kicked out for weed I believe. Obviously the UFC doesn't protect fighters from drug screening.
I know Lashley was not tested before his Strikeforce match though.
Nate Diaz is definitely on roids.
is that a joke?
yes
This guy is a moron
Projecting his own shortcomings on others..... He says he knows a lot of people in the industry.... So what? Its not as tho fighters are walking around bragging about it if they are using....
He's just saying that because HE got caught using it. He's trying to justify why he used it and why he was "unfairly" (in his opinion) treated.
If everybody was indeed using it, either a lot more people would get caught, or none of them would, because they would know exactly what to do to "flush it out" of their system. After all, don't they all get tested the same way? The fact the the test is finding some people on it means the test is working properly.
May just be some fighters dont flush it out, if it can be done and dont dodge the tests correctly. I agree though that the ufc does not protect fighters, but i do wonder how thorough their testing regime is.
i tell u something... i think the incredible HULK was on steroids too...;-)
Would be nice to have main event fighters especially have tests like every week for the last 3 months before the fight. Until that time we will have this problem.
Yea i remember saying this. There are over 700 different types of steroids, and that doesn't even include drugs that "enhance performance" but are not necessarily steroids. Ofcourse there are going to be alot of users that don't get caught, they only test for a handful.