Trevor Wittman satisfied with Shane Carwin's moral victory at UFC 131
Posted on June 13, 2011, 05:25 PM by Joey Santosus
"He inspired me so much as a trainer. To be involved in the first round war where I thought the fight was almost gonna be stopped and could have been stopped because of the punishment he was taking on the ground (...) To me, that was like watching a Rocky Balboa movie. Movies are made about stuff like that. As a trainer, I felt we won. We didn't win the fight but we won as a person and as a team. He did not get beat mentally. He went out there like a warrior. it's hard to explain but it's very inspiring as a trainer and I'm still in awe and still amazed at the way he looked in the hospital afterwards. The way he went out there and said "screw it" and put on a fight for the fans and there was no quit in him at all. Even when he had that nasty cut in the third round, I thought the fight should have been stopped at that point. That was a very bad cut and he still asked to go on longer. The crowd really got into that. It was probably the most exciting corner I've ever been in and it was an experience I've never experienced before and I'm still feeling it. - For more from Trevor Wittman on Shane Carwin, visit MMAMania.com
Though Shane Carwin may not of walked away from UFC 131 as the new number one contender, it appears the crew at Grudge Training Center is still satisfied with Carwin's moral victory. After failing to secure a takedown in the opening-round, "The Engineer" had no choice but to stand with the quicker, more technical Junior dos Santos. As the round neared its conclusion, Carwin found himself in deep waters after being dropped by the Brazilian, who immediately followed-up with a series of vicious blows that threatened to end the fight early. Bruised and battered, but not beaten, Carwin answered the bell for the second stanza and stood toe to toe with dos Santos for the remaining ten minutes of the bout.
So what did you think of Carwin's performance LowKick'ers? And what should be next for the former Interim Heavyweight Champ?
Photo:UFC fighter Shane Carwin at the weigh ins for UFC 116 at the MGM Grand Arena on July 2, 2010, in Las Vegas, Nevada. Francis Specker
Comments
hes getting up there in age, 36, i say let him fight winner of schaub and minotauro
That would be a tricky fight to make if Schaub wins, as they train together over at Grudge. He's old, but I think he doesn't deserve a step down in competition. He took the fight on short notice, was coming off of serious surgery, and is at the age where he only has one more run left in him. I personally still consider him a huge threat for the title. He looked surprisingly hesitant against JDS, I don't know if it was because he's scared of gassing or scared of JDS's power, but he proved to himself that his cardio is much improved (still needs work) and his chin is rock solid. I expect an impressive performance next time out for The Engineer!
nah i say thatd be too much for him after two loses in a row and shaubs his teamate
but yeah i say he fights Travis browne or the winner of kongo and barry
or even beltran cuz he could knock him out for sure id just like to see that one actually
but yeah after two dissapointing performances it would he should step down a notch
Plus you gotta think of his injury he will be out for a while with a broken nose and a several stitches
Also his performance was pretty bad on saturday yeah his cardio was better but his striking was SLUGISH and hes not a very technical fighter yeah JDS is the man but carwin didnt put up much of a fight for a former contender
Rematch with Frank Mir, it'd be a big name and revenge for Mir, or would prove Carwin is still in the top.
Wittman claimed Carwin would destroy JDS.
Three rounds and a hospital visit later, he claims a 'moral' victory. And that it was more than enough for him as a trainer...
Can someone please slap the f**k out of him?
LOL ya FK Wittman someone needs to slap the shit out of him.
@ 32 years old your done in the sport of boxing some ppl get away with this if they train the right way . @ 36 First goes Strenght ,Speed and then Stamina. he will not compete again unless he trains to raise his stamina like Florian did for this last fight. He out Staminad a way younger guy .
Gotta agree- never like Trevor and he comes across as not too bright. Seems a little over his head both ringside and inside the cage in between rounds.
As someone whos been falling the sport fighters and trevor as a coach for a long time I dont think its fair to say he needs to get slapped. The guys a world champion boxer and what is he supposed to say about his fighter, that hes going to lose? That hes under par to his opponents striking? He did what any coach would have done and thats give his fighter and friend the moral boost by stating his confidence in Carwin. He's actually a phenominal coach and delivers so much more than any other coach and he is still there (clearly shown through this article) for his fighters keeping Carwins beliefs up. Stop ****ing hating you ignorant kids
Ah, he's a former World Boxing Champion who came in with a crappy game plan for his fighter (who before hand claimed that Carwin's boxing was superior in every way).
Then after the loss, he basically stated "Yea, Carwin got his ass kicked BUT he still won."
Yes, I am the ignorant one *sarcasm*
You do realize that the Greg Jackson approach has cost fighters their fights, right? Providing confidence on the level he did was delusional. In fact, it was irresponsible. Shane came in unprepared to deal with JDS's speed and combinations and suffered.
Wittman depended on Carwin's power to get him the win, and he got exposed. Really, really sh**y on his part.
If doing his job is a moral victory, then a moral victory it is for Carwin. Too bad moral victories don't count for sh*t in the UFC.
I have Carwin ranked 4th on my moral p4p list.
I think it is fair to say that Carwin is tough, and can take a punch. But so can Roy Nelson and Cabbage.
Unless Carwin wants to change his name from "The Engineer" to "Raw Hamburger Face", he needs to address major shortcomings in his fight game. Dos Santos had excellent footwork and avoided almost every attempt by Carwin to hit him. Carwin was smashed over and over by JDS's vicious jab--for which he had no answer or defense.
JDS even managed some clean takedowns just to rub it in.
If Carwin is serious about being a contender, he better get back to the drawing board.
I bet the house on Carwin winning that fight. My girlfriend left me as a result. I'm now at an internet cafe. I feel no regret as I've made a huge chunk of money off these fights.
I will say that Carwin looks too...heavy and awkward and that's his problem. He's a slow clunky tank in the world of quick agile fighter jets.
i would laugh at you for betting the house on a 36 year old fighter coming off a long lay off and major surgery(&& roids..allegedly) but sounds like you been trough enough.. @Wittman with ur cat from "alice in wonderland" shit eating grin COME ON SON!! if you truly love your fighter you wouldve stopped that fight after the first.. he had noooo chance f*ck his 1 punch knockout power he wasnt about to land it JDS is too good too fast too smart with too good of a chin.. now your 36 year old fighter just took 11 extra minutes of unnecessary punishment for what?? a moral victory???? come on son you're not the one in there getting your face smashed in f*ck your moral victory and i hope carwin is smart enough to find a new camp ASAP
Well, like many others, I was hoping he'd land one of those flush shots and end it. I know Carwin doesn't have much left, but he still possesses that ability to put you to sleep.
Trevor Wittman is the most annoying trainer around. He's such a tool.
i agree i hate wittman, you always see him standing behind his fighter during the official intros, with that huge smile on his face like "im glad its not me in there"... and he always makes rediculouse comments, saying carwin has the best standup in HW.... but saying that ur satisfied with ur fighter getting destroyed and his faced turned into bloody meat, because he didnt get knocked out.... now thats just wack!
After reading the comments up to this point, I've noticed that many are talking about what Carwin did wrong... While some of these points are valid, I think more focus should be on what JDS did correctly. Just two fights ago, Carwin was smashing people, winning fight after fight by exciting knockout and always looking to finish. The pounding he served up to Lesnar was something no other fighter had done at the time. He's given us some great fights, so respect to him. It just goes to show the type of threat JDS poses to Velasquez, and I for one cannot wait to see that one!
cool story bro
Oh god... Kendell has returned.
The last time I saw a smile as broad as that of Mr Witless was back in the Summer of Love 92, (Rave Party).
Let's put it like this, Mr Witless looked "Ecstatic", he then offers some jibberish about how losing means winning... Someone take this poor cretin to the Chill Out Tent and cool him down with his own urine...
Warheadchief makes an excellent point when he comments on Shane being like a tank in a war with Jets.... Brock and Shane presented a problem for fighters because of their size, power...
There does seem to be a solution for those fighters without the genetic advantages of these guys.
Speed, cardio, technical boxing, strong take down defence, brain.
The days of the Tank Abbots and Shane Carwins seem to be replaced by Cain, JDS...
Would you agree with the last comment?
Look forward to feedback,