Rashad Evans sets up camp at Imperial Athletics, says Jon Jones can take Greg Jackson

Rashad is being such a little bitch. . . I mean, dear God, Greg Jackson runs a f'n business, and Rashad is acting like a prima-donna bitch, just because he isn't the big dog in the yard anymore. . . Swear to God, I hope he gets mercked by Jones and then Rashad pisses off with his tail tucked firmly between his legs.



I mean, seriously? Who's name is on the sign? Rashad Evan's camp or Greg Jackson's camp?

If Greg wants to bring in ANYONE to be a part of the camp, that's his prerogative, just like it's Rashad's prerogative to go to any other camp.



It's not a ****ing family.

It's not RASHAD's ****ing house.

Rashad doesn't make the ****ing rules.

And I think Jackson will be better of in the long run with this whiny bitch gone and Jon Jones setup to be champ for a while.



I used to love Rashad, but he is being such a nasty little bastard about all of this with someone who has done his best for him (Jackson) that I can't stand him.



Hope. Jones. Mercks. Him.

Well after you spend most of your day around the same people, training with them. Bonding with them, they become like family. I like when fighters within the same camp fight each other. And probably all of this is just so Rashad psyches himself up to hold nothing back against Jones. The more he convinces himself that his enemy is against him the more prepared he will be. Oh and feel free to dry those tears and chill out. You sound like a girlfriend (Rashad in this case) just broke your heart

I agree. I think this is a combination of Rashad preparing mentally, marketing the match, and attempting to get in to Jones's head a bit. We all know Jones does not like to humanize his opponents, and that will be hard against Rashad, since it's someone he knows, and someone who knows how to get to him.

Wow, you need to relax a bit. Greg jackson himself promotes the whole touchy feely "we are family" BS so you shouldn't be surprised when Rashad acts this way about "family". Jackson is full of sh*t IMO. I never like Rashad but I see where he's coming from.

what on ignorant comment. do you fight have you trained 6 years with same camp same guys and than suddenly you have to change camp.Its like a family you spend almost as much time with your trainer and training partners as your family you stupid ass keyboard warrior who has no idea of real fight life

Hahahaha... yeah you got all the "Weaks" from his family and friends. Rashad isn't wait he use to be after getting KOed by Machida. Jone's is going to KO his ass even worse... I just hope it's an elbow.

*what he use to be...

No, I haven't had a team for 6 years, but I have trained a bit and I understand the dynamics of the culture. I didn't say it doesn't become LIKE a family, but I DID say it's a business. . . and at the end of the day, that's what it is.

Business.



Separate your business and your personal lives, or else the nature of those two things being what they are will do it for you.



Rashad's being a bitch, just like you.



So why don't you go **** yourself.

seperate business and personal life when the business is your personal life

Rashad looks like he shared a womb with cuba gooding jnr.

I still don't understand what the big deal between Jones and Evans is about but the last time Rashad was talking major shit before the fight, he ended up lay and gaying...and he did win...

You will notice I have used Rashads accusations and simply changed the names - it's a good example of how people project their faults on to others.



That's like (Rashad) spilling a glass of milk and then walking away and saying that you don't want to have anything to do with it. You f**kn spilled the milk...so you're at least going to help clean it up right?"



- So Rashad has not spilled any milk in this situation. A team of scientists would agree that Rashad is completely in the right here, he spilt no milk???



"Greg Jackson was disrespected on many levels and the worst part is that it comes from people who he felt were like family. Greg would have done anything for Rashad Evans, and he would still do anything for Rashad but he feels disrespected beyond belief.



Jon feels disrespected by Rashad because when he thinks about when they trained or when chilling, was the s**t even real? Or was he (Rashad) just trying to be a master manipulator and try to manipulate the situation so he could get what he wanted out of it?



- Rashad is saying that "the shit" wasn't real because Rashad never got what he wanted.



- The reality of the gym, training, chilling were all conceptions of Rashad Evans. He became attached to a reality which doesn't/ didn't exist. He led people skillfully through conversations to ensure agreements which he felt protected him/ chances of success.

- Rashad was banking on the pyschological law of consistency - once a person says something they must follow it up always to remain a good/ worthy person in the world of Rashad.



- Who was being the manipulator? Rashad was expecting Jon Jones to act in strict accordance with his views. If Jon Jones had followed Rashads Law of Righteousness to the letter, then Jon Jones would have been manipulated not to fight until Rashad retired. What would that make Rashad?



Perhaps Rashad should be a Promoter. Perhaps prior to doing business with Rashad, people should sign a life long contract saying that despite changes in reality they will always stick to their word - making a promise to Rashad is like swearing on a bible - to veer off the path of Righteous Rashad is to be damned by Mr Righteous Rashad himself.



For instance, one of my students signed a contract with me to run for an hour Monday - Friday. When he was ran over one morning, I sympathized with him being hospitalized... but don't you think that the fact he had his left leg amputated is no excuse to change our future plan? Don't you think I am right to say that Jon Jones has no right to fulfill his dream because of a conversation he had whilst chilling (with the person some people call, Master Manipulator or Righteous Rashad?



I really grew to like Rashad during TUF.

- What I see in his commentary is obviously huge denial, Rashad has manipulated situations to suit his own world view.

- His world view is not shared by many of those around him.

- Rashads world view is dominated by his picture in the middle and the little people revolving around him.

- These people can no longer be called little, in fact, these people are now bigger than him.

- To maintain his preferred self conception, he must move away, he has no choice.

- I predict that although he professes wants of well being for Mr Greg Jackson et al. He will become increasingly viscious prior to the fight.

- Rashad will make the fight between him and Jon Jones a fight between him and Greg/ Jon Jones/ former trainers and team mates.

- If Rashad were beaten, it would be their fault for hurting him - (keeping his self image intact)

- If he wins, he was the man all along and he just proved it.



I no longer like Rashad Evans, I have lost respect for a man who projects his issues and problems on to the people who were supporting him as best as they could. Rashad Evans is not and never will be the centre of the Universe. His expectations and self image will inevitably change, in what way remains to be seen.



/ Odesa

All good points, but we are not aware of what happens for real. I take vows very seriously so I expect vows to be upheld or else don't make vows. People these days have no honour and their words mean nothing now and thats half the reason we have 70% of marriage vows disanuled within 2 years. It's a joke to make such sincere vows and then find another reason to break those vows. Just don't make the vows and keep the value of your words.

@ Odesahitman



Write a book why don't you!

yo how is rashad manipulating or mad because he didn't get what he wanted he earned the number 1 contender shot last year..jones only received the shot because rashad was hurt. and either way rashad is still getting the shot next so yeh rashad is still getting what he wants

I would like to thank you for your post. My thoughts EXACTLY.



Wow

Thanks.



ps, I am about to start doing dirty boxing training with Rodney King (not the guy from LA, the trainer from South Africa) - on your profile you rate yourself as a fan, have you tried out dirty boxing at all, it's pretty cool :)



/ Odesa

:)

Thanks for your feedback and making such an excellent counter point.



- I agree wholeheartedly that making a vow and sticking to it is of the utmost importance. Sometimes I fail, I eat chocolate more than my vow of once per week when injured.

- Making a vow to a friend is the type which I keep, (that's my value too).



An interesting issue here Falcon... is that communication is spoken and heard on different levels. EG, If a person you consider insane tells you that they love you, I am sure that a person you love using the same voice, mannerisms will appear/ sound completely different.



Can Rashad Evans say with specificity that himself and Jon Jones made an explicit agreement never to fight, even if it were for the title?



They may have agreed to never fight one another, but if they had not considered a title shot as a scenario, then psycholgically the agreement was never made. Which is exactly why we have lawyers, to cover the fine detail, because the devil of disagreement is in the detail.



Should the entire world agree with Rashad that Jon Jones should relinquish the title and not fight for it again until Rashad Evans retires?



My problem with Rashads position is that he is obviously a thinker and an intelligent man. To take this position, he must be able to state unequivally that he has never broken a promise and that every agreement he ever made was so specific that no misunderstanding could occur.



There was a King in ancient Britain called King Canute, in his belief that he was ordained by God and could command miracles, he sat on his throne in front of the sea and ordered the sea back, he basically forebade it from touching his feet. The sea moved to his feet, then his knees, eventually he had to leave his chair and get out of the sea.



Like King Canute, no one bestowed such authority on Rashad to go around making deals with people as to whether they could fight him. Rashad is not a promoter for anyone other than himself.



Lastly - Quid Pro Quo



Under the common law, a binding contract must involve consideration: that is, the exchange of something of value for something else of economic value. If the exchange appears excessively one sided, courts in some jurisdictions may question whether a quid pro quo did actually exist and the contract may be void by law....



The point; The nature of the agreement, may not hold in law due to the excessive suffering of Jon Jones in, A.) Relinquishing his belt B.) Loss of earnings C.) Other unknowable effects...



The fact that Rashad expects this from someone who is not his real brother, who he has not signed a contract of this nature with, the fact that he is prepared to relinquish his own part of the deal to fight Jones etc etc... shows that this guy is the guy breaking the agreement. Rashad Evans is the deal breaker. He is the person who has agreed to fight Jon Jones. Jon Jones beat Bader, Rashad agreed with the UFC to fight Jon Jones... Could this be true? What specific truth do we have in this situation? According to whom, what specific sources???



/ Odesa

Again very thoughtout points and I agree. Where you say Rashad would have to be able to say ''I have never broken a vow'' is logical but not reasonable since we are human so how can he stack up to words of sincerity now? Simple you build up that trust in the vows you yet are holding and it's always better to continue to try and keep those vows than give up because you have ruined some already, otherwise you just get worseon your word value.

I do like where you are going with this.

I have just read phacemons post, suggesting that Rashads objection was made on the basis that a telephone call could have been made first.

- Our discussion has supported me in finding out the truth, instead of what I presupposed the truth to be.



I need to do some homework here.



Thanks for the feedback



/ Odesa

You're right about Rashad breaking the agreement publicly but maybe there was something breaking down within the GYM already and maybe Greg fancies Jones more than him due to his status or something? I have never been a Rashad fan and was banking on Rampage to take him out. My side in all this is what a vow should be like and for the most part it would seem you agree.

It sounds to me that there was a miscommunication somewhere in the mix for these 2 individuals(Rashad, Jon). Rashad was upset that Jon made the announcement of openness to fight him on national TV vs. talk to him about it beforehand. That, in my opinion, is not a loyal move from a close friend. I can see where he would question how close they really were. I'm sure he had his phone number and I'm sure they knew these questions would come about. The mature thing to do would have been to talk about it before going public with it. Now this is all according to Rashad's story. I haven't heard Jon's side of it so that's all I'm basing it on. I'm sure they would have been fighting regardless(thank goodness because I want to see that fight), but there's a way to go about things as "friends."

Good post.

/ Odesa

I can't wait for this fight. I understand how Rashad feels but at the sometimes he's taking it to far. It's neither Jacksons nor Jones fault that this fight has to take place. Why would Jackson chose a side? Why would Jackson have Jones leave the camp after he's become champion? Why would Jones wanna leave the camp, Jackson basically has been with Jones every step of the way. It's funny how Rashad is talking this Shit, saying he knows Jones's weaknesses and he feels totally disrespectful. But would still do anything for them. Rashad is so ****y I doubt he was evening paying attention to Bones like that while at practice, aside from when they spared. Rashad has always been this way. Always thinking he's above people or as if he deserves more attention. I use to like Rashad but he's beginning to annoy me. If he keeps this talk up he's gonna begin to annoy Jones which is going to lead to a no holding back ass whipping. And at the end of the day that's probably what he needs so he can stop talking so much and focus on the prize. He's to emotional which isn't a good way to come into a fight. Especially when your fighting a person like Jones who is always cool, calm , and collected. I got Jones winning this fight the same way he destroyed Shogun, tap out due to strikes, cause Shogun did tap, he gave up. Rashad doesn't have as much heart, talent, or a chin like Shogun so I see it happening much quicker.2nd round TKO. Mark my words, Rashad won't win and Jones again will not be hurt or probably even hit during this match. Watch

I'm no longer a fan of Rashad, but If you watched TUF 2, you'd know that he has a lot of heart.

Nice points.

/ Odesa

I still can't understand what Rashad's beef with Jon Jones is all about because to me it seems like he forgot that him and Jon Jones share the same exact goals as fighters, which is to become the UFC LHW champ.

My question is: did he expect Jones to turn down the opportunity of becoming a champ when he was offered a title shot just for him?

Now, his beef with Greg Jackson on the other hand seems to make a lot of more sense since he was there way before Jones joined the Jackson's camp, however he needs to get over the fact that Greg Jackson made a business decision. At the end of day, there is no loyalty in business and hopefully he'll learn from what happened.

I'm fairly confident that Rashad will again be friends with Jones and Jackson after the fight.



But until then it's time for business. Expect things to be said that arent really meant. Expect Rashad (and Jones) the convince themselves the other man is "the enemy". Expect things to get personal. Expect exaggerations of situations as there is no way to get in the other persons head than making a situation they can not resist to address.

Rashad is just saying this because he need to fight Jones to win and not a friend/teamate anymore. In top of that it s a good way to hype the fight. Dana is really happy for sure

jones is the champ it should only be fitting that rashad should leave, and he should understand it. i agree with the above rashad need to feel dissed so he can get fired up. prediction... jones first round.

no of this matters cuz rashads gonna get smashed either way. this is a horrible match up for him, some one with huge reach with decent striking, great takedown defence and wrestling overall, and much better bjj since rashad has zero jui jitsu. also rashad is one of the shortest lhw's and hes fighting the tallest lwh.

Sounds like a cry for help.

Q. When is nobody caring?

Q. Caring is an action, how can nobody be doing it?

..... Anyway, you must care for yourself, you gave yourself the cool name of (((BAM))).

rashad gonna **** judas jones up

If anyone is to blame for this debacle, it's Greg Jackson. He should of prepared these guys for this eventuality.

Evans is going to lose. Just ask his kids. Rashad, "Who going to win the fight little man." Son, "Daddy your going to get your ass kicked." Rashad, "He finally said daddy."

Rashad should go down to MW after this. Jon Jones will make him wish he was fighting Machida

Forget the critics and media, Greg Jackson is a traitor.

Are you not being a traitor to your own intelligence and logic by discounting rational deduction?

- Perhaps you are so far ahead of people like myself that you are giving some great advice. I am interested in what your advice on this specific matter can offer.

Q. On what basis of reason should I accept that Greg Jackson is a traitor?

Q. According to whom is this true?

Q. What other evidence should I also consider in order to achieve a well rounded opinion?



Thanks

Odesa

rashad please whoop his ass

rashad gona get the same treatment shogun got.lol.. good luck evans coz your gona need it and keep your chin tucked in coz bones jones is gona find it and ko your ass..