Quick Quote: Mauricio "Shogun" Rua expects a rubber match with Lyoto Machida

I feel Shogun won both fights (2nd fight there's no question about it) so it doesnt need to be done at this time or near future.

Only if some how the stars aligned and their paths cross with no other alternates, then the fight may happen again.

I agree with you about Rua winning both fights. However, on paper, it says 1-1, so maybe that bothers Shogun. I dunno... But, as far as their paths crossing, it could make sense pretty soon. Machida just bounced back from defeat with a win over Couture and if Rua wins in Rio, then the same can be said about him. Obviously, there are other opponents that make just as much sense, but it could happen.

sho gun did win all fights ! ufc judges were drunk that night ! i still cant believe sho gun lost ! he never even tried too engage ! not the sho gun i am use too seeing !

Everybody wants to say the first fight was controversial because it was a bad decision, but I disagree.

No doubt Shogun took the last 2 rounds of that fight. It was significant. It was dominant. As far as the first three rounds, though, they were way more competitive. I thought Machida marginally took rounds 1, 2 and 3. Anyone can definitely make a case for that, and vice versa. So, if Machida took rounds 1-3, Shogun took 4 & 5, then Machida had it 3-2 in rounds, which in my opinion, justifies the decision. There should be no controversies. The only controversy there should be is the judges awarding the wrong rounds to the fighters.

not true mr . gnp ! sho gun out striked him ! and out classed him ! the first fight was much the same as the 2nd fight ! with sho gun finally dropping machida taken his title !

No, eez true Mr. Garry. Go back and watch fight, eh?

I say "you can make case" for 1, 2 and 3. oqay?

I agree on the last two rounds Machida being out-struck and out-classed.

All I say no controversy in outcome, oqay Mr. Garry?

lol bunch of uneducated kids here lol. no nohn about combat sports .

I think it has more to do with the fact that they are both unarguably in the top 5 in the UFC (I would argue that they are 2 and 3 right now - both slightly ahead of Rampage and Rashad). He never said he WANTED to fight Machida, he just said he believes it will happen eventually. It's very likely that it will.



I would love to see Shogun vs Rampage 2 though, assuming Rampage gets through Hamill.

I would like to see machida fight jon jones. i think it would be an interesting fight.

Don't really want to see the rubber match rite now....much rather see both Shogun and Machida fight Evans/Davis/Rampage/Thiago/Lil Nog before the rubber match

Not now but i think Machida learned from his previous fights. So, this rubber match is interesting and anything can happen.

Yeah its machida's turn to knock him out ! lol

As much as i like Machida, i think he will lose to shogun again because of Shogun's aggressive style matchs up against lyoto's counter striking. Shogun is very good at overwhelming people standing up and that how u beat Machida.

sorry man, but i disagree i think lyoto has learn the lesson to his loss to shogun,the second fight lyoto suffers injuries into his hands.and similar what happen to shogun fight against jones,he suffers injuries and undertake surgery into his knees.he might have cage rust.



in this kind of sports,the best conditioning is the key to win fight.we don't know,rashad can beat jones.



and also machida to shogun.



its hard to predict the fight,mma prove that many times.

most people said Lyoto learned his lesson the first time, but got knocked out the second time. From what i observed from both fights:



1st fight: he was to soft, stunned by shoguns pressure and chasing him effectivley



2nd fight: Too aggrssive, although he was doing well he threw a weak punch and it cost him the fight



Conclusion: he needs to find the spot inbetween those two fights, Not too agressive, but not too soft.

Yea I want to see Machida fight Shogun again beacuse I don't think Machida fought his best either time against him.

Pass. Shogun won both fights. I don't know why he's talking Machida other than to boost himself up since that was a great KO prior to losing the belt. He should move on.

I'm down for a part III to be honest if it were to go down.

Yea but he's gotta get past Forrest first and I don't see him beating forest.

Seriously?

I'm with you here Ryan. Although Forrest is a big and strong competitor, I see Rua getting past him in Rio. Shogun would rather die than to lose in his native homeland.

I hope they do fight again and i truly think Machida has wat it takes to beat shogun coz his biggist weakness is takedowns and someone with a real good ground game and machida has that..But i hope lyoto kos him..Paybacks a bitch!!!

No, Shogun got that phrase when the judges screwed him over...

Shogun is a bad match up for Machida (which is why he lost to him twice). His karate seems to be no match for Rua's powerful muay thai. If there were to be a rubber match [which I've predicted IF Shogun gets past Griffin], Lyoto will be seeking to take the fight to the ground.



I rather see Machida fight Jones first [IF, in return, Jon gets through Quinton or Rashad first]. I think Lyoto matches up with Jones alot better than Shogun does.

in the 2nd fight Machida did take Shogun down a couple of times, Shogun did awesome to get right back to his feet.



I would also like to see Machida against Jon Jones as we havent seen it yet and it's interesting to see how both styles match.

I agree, Machida I feel is the only legit threat to Jones title after that ass spanking he handed Rua

It's a very interesting match up. Machida is very accurate with his strikes, he's very elusive and he has outstanding takedown defense. That formula could be deadly to Jones.

Shogun is still a threat to Jones. It'd be foolish to say otherwise. Jon only has one outstanding attribute and that's his wrestling. Being 6'4 and having a 84 inch reach doesn't either.



The blue print to beat Jones is not that complex. Guzman and O'Brien outstruck, and at times bullied Jones. If Rua improves his TDD, Jon can be knocked out.

How is gonna take Rua to improve his tdd to the level of a pure wrestler like bader, hamill ? Rua will be retired before it happens.

how long?

Not exactly, it's still possible for Rua to improve his TDD. I get the idea that Mauricio didn't exactly put 110% into his wrestling. I mean before taking his training camp to KINGS MMA, Shogun had no-name wrestling sparring partners and a Brazilian wrestling coach (don't know about you but I can't seem to remember when Brazil had top tier wrestling).



Rua more than likely depended on his BJJ alot more than expected to get out of bad situations... it just couldn't work with a pure wrestler like Jones.



And it's not impossible. In Shogun-Griffin I, Rua actually took down Griffin on several occasions and defended a few takedowns himself.

i am not saying its impossible but its gonna take him long hours in the gym with top wrestlers. I personally want to see how machida can defend jones TD.

I definitely agree, it'll take alot of work to improve his TDD but I believe Shogun can accomplish it.



Me too, Machida is such an interesting match up for Jones. Keep in mind, Jones isn't a good striker but he lands unpredictable shots with great timing. It is yet to be seen how Jon will handle Lyoto's elusive style. We all know The Dragon can go five rounds, but can Jones? He's exhausted himself several times by two rounds. Lyoto will probably want to exploit that.

I am not gonna say Jones's striking is at top level yet but he's a good striker cause like you said "he lands unpredictable shots with great timing". As for the five rounds Jones is slowing down past the third round but he is so dominant that he can probably kill time for two rounds and get the des. I am not worried. Machida 's got great TDD, elusive, smart game planer, has five rounds experience. With his new found confidence i am sure he can be a problem for Jones.

We still dont know how Jones is gonna handle the pressure of being the champ and having to defend. Machida failed as a champ, we'll see how Jones deals with it.

This would be an interesting rematch. Two guys coming out of lulls (considering you'd only imagine this will happen if Rua beats Forrest)



It'd really show us which guy's picked themselves up and adapted best. Personally I think Lyoto would take the rematch - Rua looked like he'd lost a lot of sharpness against Jones and unless he shows signs of recovery against Forrest I think Lyoto's lines would pick him apart.



I hope I'm wrong though! I love Shogun