This was hilarious. However, I think that women's mma is too big a risk for the UFC to pick up right now. The main thing keeping the UFC out of certain countries and states is the belief that the sport is too savage or brutal. If the UFC has a women's division the people who already oppose it will no longer even consider it.
I think that women should start and organization in a place where mma is already very accepted like Brazil. Maybe in a few years it will have developed and the rest of the world will be ready for it.
The women are good and that is not the issue. It is much less safe for the to do so as they have breast and wombs. Not a nice thought when you are watching...
Dont like it. Idk man but I just dont see myself getting excited for any female fights. Plus, I just dont like seeing girls getting smacked around. UFC is mans organization, it's done well like that. I mean **** IT! Always some female uprising for some reason or another. Let the boys fight!!! I just dont see this working! Hope Dana dont cave in cuzz of some UFC is sexist claims. Cant wait till this whole thing is over with
I dont know lowkickers but 2 warriors getting in a cage to beat the living shit out of eachother to see whose the baddest mother****er around seems more like a male thing. Female soccer, basketball, etc... fine...but leave fighting to the boys.
is that ur response to everyone who doesnt approve of girls beating the shit out of eachother? alot of guys simple dont like it bro. btw ur ignorance burns...
If you see MMA as a fight then no. But if you see MMA as a sport then defiantly yes. Maybe not the UFC at the moment, but keep SF women's division, they have been doing a good job same with Bellator.
hey am i the only one who doesn't wanna tell women what they can n cant do ? like women fights are better then most men fights like look at marloes that last fight was epic idk what u guys say but theres a womens hockey there's women out there fighting in a iraq but your going to tell them hey you cant step inside the cage because some dudes dont like it ? if your a fan of the sport not gender or fighters u will accept this addition to the ufc
see u dont care because ur one of those people who jus like to see people punch eachother in the face. a true mma fan likes to see high level technique. that fight u mentioned with marloes conan was a discrase imo. the fact that this random girl almost beat the champ shows how low their skill level really is, the girl could barly throw a punch. right now womans mma has no place in the major league of mma. maybe 10 years from now
lawl how can u say im not a real mma fan because i like the competition i just like 2 people going in there and competing if im not a fan becuase i like watching fights n seeing good come backs i love mma because u can losem4 rounds n still win if its 10-1 in hockey theres no chance for losing team to come back in win im a huge mma fan i dont believe any 1 has the rights to tell women what they can and cant do i will say most female fights trun out way better then male fights i dont care what the person looks like where there from i just wanna see 2 people who trained for month to beat each fight n see who wins i don't care if some one wins by laying on top of some one for 2 rounds its the guy on bottom who couldn't get the person on top off they has over 3 month to get ready so be ready pffft im not a fan i just like to see people get punched in the face unlike all u zuffa zombies i watch jujitsu matches i watch all forms of martial arts idc what dana does but im hoping hes doesn't take away a bunch of people careers because he doesn't like women fighting he would rather see men fights but me my self im not picky
i thought that a true MMA fan wud want to watch..........MMA. just a crazy thought. We dont always see the best performances from Male fighters so that happening to Females shouldnt be that big of a shocker. I hate that women try to always be equal to men but always have those chnages to the rules or tweeked standards but if it means i get to see more fights I seriously wont mind.
i proudly wear my pink Equal Fights! wristbands in support of womens right to fight
but the only argument that matters for dana is there arn't enough good female fighters to create a division that doesn't stagnate in a year.. plus businesswise they arn't a big draw (even strikeforce used to put womens title bouts on the undercard..)
I love watching MArloes and Cyborg but womans MMA should stay outside the UFC. You cant put something so controversial like womans MMA onto a stage as big as the UFC, it would cause to many problems. Also there arent many big names you could promote and not that many female fighters in general
I know there's good arguements for women to fight if men do and I also know there is not really an arguement against women fighting. But personally I hope the UFC does not start putting on womens fights as I really don't like seeing women fight. Maybe its sexist or patronising but can't help it, just don't wanna see it.
I'm sure things are still a bit hectic from the merging with the WEC and Zuffa already has the ball rolling for more and more shows and events. They have a pretty full plate in their hands and I just don't see room for women's MMA in the immediate future. But they now own SF which does host an abundant and talent rich pool of women fighters that have definitely impacted the sport and left a major impression in the world of Mixed Martial Arts. And to be honest, if Zuffa didn't own SF, I don't think they would be able to compete with the SF women's division. Real Talk.
although there are some very good female fighters there is not enough, unless they all fight each other and either have one weight class or just make it a catchweight division but even then there would be some fighters who would only want to fight at the same weight
Why not? Dana brought in a boxer to get the boxing fans, a wwe star to get their fans so why not have female fights to get the female fans. It's all about the cash ain't it??? ;)
he brought in brock because he had his own name already.. a boxer because he follwed him around talking smack about the ufc.. where are u gunna find a weight class of women??
If the only reason he brought in a boxer was that he was talking smack Dana wouldn't have payed him more than Randy, a legend in MMA, now would he? Dana knew that paying Toney big bucks was a wise investment, and if you watched the fight you know that Toney wasn't in it to prove he was the better fighter, he did it for the cash.
The smack talk was just PR. I bet the payment that Toney got included that too. A smart way of getting boxing fans to watch MMA.
The same with Brock, he is the perfect for bringing in the wwe fans, you either love him or hate him. His out of the octagon antics was just the drama wwe fans missed from MMA, and Brock brought it. Why do you think he got a shot at the title after two fights, one loss and one win? It's business.
Female fights is a different, Dana knows he probably would get some new fans, but he also probably would loose some. It's not necessarily good business.
But if you wan't MMA to be considered a real sport it would be wise. Women do bjj, boxing, muay thai everything that you find in MMA so why not? I coach 4 women and I don't get why they shouldn't get to compete in the sport that they train.
I'm also all for junior MMA, different rules, but still MMA.
If MMA want's to be considered a real sport, not just mindless fighting, it should be open to everyone. I know Dana want's it to be the gladiator games of today, but I don't care for that. I would love to see MMA in the olympics some day.
It's not a sexist thing not having a womens division in the UFC. I look at the UFC as the NBA. It's great to have womens Basketball but they don't have the NBA and Womens basketball joined at the hip do they?
I feel like a complete sexist, but I like women's mma.
If I wasn't such a sexist, I would say that gender didn't matter--let the best man or woman win. If a woman can rise to the top in a traditionally male sport--then let her fight men.
If wasn't such a sexist, I woud judge women's MMA as vastly inferior compared to the MMA I see in the UFC.
But I am a sexist, and I believe the sport needs to be divided by gender, otherwise, realistically, women would never be able to compete. So I am in favor of women in the UFC.
what i can see at the moment is ZUFFA using Strikeforce to analyse and have a better hands on experience on these things like Women's fights, Co-promotions etc without actually involving the UFC. After some time they can figure out what is and isnt viable to adopt into the UFC.
Females can do w/e they want. If they want to fight then I say allow them to and give them the opportunity instead of having double standards.
Just make a open weight women's division and there we go. Eventually it will become too stacked and your going to have to split it again. Then again and again...
This is Kristin, the chick from the video. I really appreciate yall putting my work out there. I started this video series not to request a UFC women's division, but to support a women's MMA reality show funded by Zuffa that would feed into Strikeforce. I'm trying to get the word to Dana though this post: http://wmmaroundup.com/blog/2011/04/dear-dana/
If you're in to this idea, I would love for you to tweet or FB status or email or whatever you can do to get the word out. Thanks!
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This was hilarious. However, I think that women's mma is too big a risk for the UFC to pick up right now. The main thing keeping the UFC out of certain countries and states is the belief that the sport is too savage or brutal. If the UFC has a women's division the people who already oppose it will no longer even consider it.
I think that women should start and organization in a place where mma is already very accepted like Brazil. Maybe in a few years it will have developed and the rest of the world will be ready for it.
you have a good point there man
I agree with you. I wish there was a third option, "Not Yet".
The women are good and that is not the issue. It is much less safe for the to do so as they have breast and wombs. Not a nice thought when you are watching...
i believe they already have, ive seen lots of women mma fights on youporn :D
LMFA off at bull dike lesbians
Dont like it. Idk man but I just dont see myself getting excited for any female fights. Plus, I just dont like seeing girls getting smacked around. UFC is mans organization, it's done well like that. I mean **** IT! Always some female uprising for some reason or another. Let the boys fight!!! I just dont see this working! Hope Dana dont cave in cuzz of some UFC is sexist claims. Cant wait till this whole thing is over with
yeah man i agree with you. personally i dont like seeing women going in for a fight, have never been a fan of girls fighting i just dont like it :/
I didn't like the idea of it, but I was sold after the first women's fight I saw.
Round 1, I was a little uncomfortable.
Round 2 I was intrigued.
Round 3 I was hooked.
I dont know lowkickers but 2 warriors getting in a cage to beat the living shit out of eachother to see whose the baddest mother****er around seems more like a male thing. Female soccer, basketball, etc... fine...but leave fighting to the boys.
leave it to the males? I bet you half the girls on the Strikeforce womens roster would smack you around your computer 10 times each
is that ur response to everyone who doesnt approve of girls beating the shit out of eachother? alot of guys simple dont like it bro. btw ur ignorance burns...
If you see MMA as a fight then no. But if you see MMA as a sport then defiantly yes. Maybe not the UFC at the moment, but keep SF women's division, they have been doing a good job same with Bellator.
It will happen, we are not in the stone ages anymore.
At first i did not like it but im kinda used to it now and noticed there some very good female fighters out there that are fun to watch.
Get used to it:)
hey am i the only one who doesn't wanna tell women what they can n cant do ? like women fights are better then most men fights like look at marloes that last fight was epic idk what u guys say but theres a womens hockey there's women out there fighting in a iraq but your going to tell them hey you cant step inside the cage because some dudes dont like it ? if your a fan of the sport not gender or fighters u will accept this addition to the ufc
see u dont care because ur one of those people who jus like to see people punch eachother in the face. a true mma fan likes to see high level technique. that fight u mentioned with marloes conan was a discrase imo. the fact that this random girl almost beat the champ shows how low their skill level really is, the girl could barly throw a punch. right now womans mma has no place in the major league of mma. maybe 10 years from now
lawl how can u say im not a real mma fan because i like the competition i just like 2 people going in there and competing if im not a fan becuase i like watching fights n seeing good come backs i love mma because u can losem4 rounds n still win if its 10-1 in hockey theres no chance for losing team to come back in win im a huge mma fan i dont believe any 1 has the rights to tell women what they can and cant do i will say most female fights trun out way better then male fights i dont care what the person looks like where there from i just wanna see 2 people who trained for month to beat each fight n see who wins i don't care if some one wins by laying on top of some one for 2 rounds its the guy on bottom who couldn't get the person on top off they has over 3 month to get ready so be ready pffft im not a fan i just like to see people get punched in the face unlike all u zuffa zombies i watch jujitsu matches i watch all forms of martial arts idc what dana does but im hoping hes doesn't take away a bunch of people careers because he doesn't like women fighting he would rather see men fights but me my self im not picky
i thought that a true MMA fan wud want to watch..........MMA. just a crazy thought. We dont always see the best performances from Male fighters so that happening to Females shouldnt be that big of a shocker. I hate that women try to always be equal to men but always have those chnages to the rules or tweeked standards but if it means i get to see more fights I seriously wont mind.
i proudly wear my pink Equal Fights! wristbands in support of womens right to fight
but the only argument that matters for dana is there arn't enough good female fighters to create a division that doesn't stagnate in a year.. plus businesswise they arn't a big draw (even strikeforce used to put womens title bouts on the undercard..)
give it a few years
Not my thing. Also, won't ever be a money maker. Look at women's basketball.
Difference is Women's MMA is more exciting than the WNBA.
At first, I wasn't a fan of it, but it has grown on me significantly.
My friend it gets a lot of ratings, if it didn't Gina vs. Cyborg wouldn't have been a main event.
all i know is that i would never pay to see a girl mma fight, and if they made their way on ppv ufc events it would ruin them for me.
I love watching MArloes and Cyborg but womans MMA should stay outside the UFC. You cant put something so controversial like womans MMA onto a stage as big as the UFC, it would cause to many problems. Also there arent many big names you could promote and not that many female fighters in general
I know there's good arguements for women to fight if men do and I also know there is not really an arguement against women fighting. But personally I hope the UFC does not start putting on womens fights as I really don't like seeing women fight. Maybe its sexist or patronising but can't help it, just don't wanna see it.
I personally prefer to watch men fight than women.But ,if they don't mind
they asked for as a professional fighter level for competition and i don't have a problem with that.imo
I believe this poll was already made :)
elsewhere, maybe :)
females were made for making babies, men were made for making war!!
theres no need to i heard a fact that 40% of the ufc audiences are female. plus nobody wants a korean zombiess Tshirt do they...
I'm sure things are still a bit hectic from the merging with the WEC and Zuffa already has the ball rolling for more and more shows and events. They have a pretty full plate in their hands and I just don't see room for women's MMA in the immediate future. But they now own SF which does host an abundant and talent rich pool of women fighters that have definitely impacted the sport and left a major impression in the world of Mixed Martial Arts. And to be honest, if Zuffa didn't own SF, I don't think they would be able to compete with the SF women's division. Real Talk.
although there are some very good female fighters there is not enough, unless they all fight each other and either have one weight class or just make it a catchweight division but even then there would be some fighters who would only want to fight at the same weight
naw i wouldnt pay to watch chicks fight leave them to strikeforce..
if i wanted to see women fight, i'd go to a trailer park/hs party
Why not? Dana brought in a boxer to get the boxing fans, a wwe star to get their fans so why not have female fights to get the female fans. It's all about the cash ain't it??? ;)
he brought in brock because he had his own name already.. a boxer because he follwed him around talking smack about the ufc.. where are u gunna find a weight class of women??
If the only reason he brought in a boxer was that he was talking smack Dana wouldn't have payed him more than Randy, a legend in MMA, now would he? Dana knew that paying Toney big bucks was a wise investment, and if you watched the fight you know that Toney wasn't in it to prove he was the better fighter, he did it for the cash.
The smack talk was just PR. I bet the payment that Toney got included that too. A smart way of getting boxing fans to watch MMA.
The same with Brock, he is the perfect for bringing in the wwe fans, you either love him or hate him. His out of the octagon antics was just the drama wwe fans missed from MMA, and Brock brought it. Why do you think he got a shot at the title after two fights, one loss and one win? It's business.
Female fights is a different, Dana knows he probably would get some new fans, but he also probably would loose some. It's not necessarily good business.
But if you wan't MMA to be considered a real sport it would be wise. Women do bjj, boxing, muay thai everything that you find in MMA so why not? I coach 4 women and I don't get why they shouldn't get to compete in the sport that they train.
I'm also all for junior MMA, different rules, but still MMA.
If MMA want's to be considered a real sport, not just mindless fighting, it should be open to everyone. I know Dana want's it to be the gladiator games of today, but I don't care for that. I would love to see MMA in the olympics some day.
I want to see TUF women. Only sexy ladies, and instead of fighting, bikini competitions.
It's not a sexist thing not having a womens division in the UFC. I look at the UFC as the NBA. It's great to have womens Basketball but they don't have the NBA and Womens basketball joined at the hip do they?
I feel like a complete sexist, but I like women's mma.
If I wasn't such a sexist, I would say that gender didn't matter--let the best man or woman win. If a woman can rise to the top in a traditionally male sport--then let her fight men.
If wasn't such a sexist, I woud judge women's MMA as vastly inferior compared to the MMA I see in the UFC.
But I am a sexist, and I believe the sport needs to be divided by gender, otherwise, realistically, women would never be able to compete. So I am in favor of women in the UFC.
Gina Carano vs. Matt Hughes
Gina in the 1st by triangle.
what i can see at the moment is ZUFFA using Strikeforce to analyse and have a better hands on experience on these things like Women's fights, Co-promotions etc without actually involving the UFC. After some time they can figure out what is and isnt viable to adopt into the UFC.
Females can do w/e they want. If they want to fight then I say allow them to and give them the opportunity instead of having double standards.
Just make a open weight women's division and there we go. Eventually it will become too stacked and your going to have to split it again. Then again and again...
It's all MMA to me, no gender required. If you can fight you can fight. That's all I care about, bring em in.
This is Kristin, the chick from the video. I really appreciate yall putting my work out there. I started this video series not to request a UFC women's division, but to support a women's MMA reality show funded by Zuffa that would feed into Strikeforce. I'm trying to get the word to Dana though this post: http://wmmaroundup.com/blog/2011/04/dear-dana/
If you're in to this idea, I would love for you to tweet or FB status or email or whatever you can do to get the word out. Thanks!
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