i with tito. yes he hasnt won in a long time but that really got nothing to do with koscheck running his mouth. I dont see kos taking on and beating tito, a large 205 who specializes in the same area as kos, wrestling. Some will say that kos has more cos he is a decent striker now but I dont care what people say kos is not a striker. He just relies on the big right hand, thats his only tool and as seen against gsp, his boxing skills are very limited.
he is right but damn its been so long for Tito I understand ur Injuries
and stuff he has been a champ wayyyyyyyyy back when but cant talk to much last fight he won a washed up Shamrock in 06...last time he won
for real besides old ass Shamrock............against Elvis in like 02 he had
TKO stoppage by cut against who else Shamrock but Ken was pretty bad back then.....any other win was a split decision is a win though
but like Forrest personally thought Forrest won the last 2 round, thought he dominated same with Belfort.....but he is right his loses were against top5 ranked guys and hope to see if he turned a page
cause he has great wrestling, insane GnP,.and fast hands....he has been around the block a couple times compared to Kos but hope
they fight cause all the chit talk will be great ....Tito...lol...he bleached his hair cause I did,.begging for photos....going to get good
haha, I'd have to go with tito since I can't stand kos' crappy remarks that he thinks are sly. Honestly, Tito does have SOME kind of a point about his record though when looking at his losing streak...
1. Chuck Liddell (TKO)
2. Rashad Evans (draw): since Tito was deducted a point, he could have technically won but I don't remember the fight and wasn't sure if him holding the fence made a big difference
3. Lyoto Machida: almost caught lyoto in a triangle, but still a pretty understandable loss
4. Forrest Griffin (split)
5. Matt Hamill: honestly, not sure what to make of this loss
I am by no means a fan of either but just looking at facts
Funny that Koscheck is sideshow bob. When Tito beat up his coked up wife. And Tito talking about winning a world title. He won a world title like 7 years ago. Half of the people watching MMA have probably never seen Tito win a fight. I would like to see him win a title, but he can't even beat Helen Keller.
Tito having a " world title" dosent mean anything! i mean he was champion when? at UFC 30's? was there even fighters in the division besides him?
there was just 1 fighter coming at the time fighting for the title back then , the only reason he won is because there was no good fighters and he was the few cutting weight back then.
after losing his title he lost again vs chuck then his famous 5 win streak was vs a middleweight,a split D over Belfort, split D over Forrest and 2 wins over Old Shamrock.
Koscheck is an ass but he has some wins. But Koscheck is the biggest prick , Tito is just hype and excuses.
i dont even think is possible a fight between then i mean at what weight? Tito barely makes 205 and koscheck cannot weight over 190.
Wow today i was just talking about t'hese 2 guys putting on bad TUF's against guys they really have no business being in the ring with, all talk no substance.
Now they wanna fight each other? Hey whatever. If the sport is going the way or the talker, might as well have them fight each other rather than have them waste anyone elses time
tito ortiz is probably the biggest overpayed looser douchbag in the sport!!!! whay they let him still talk in front of a camera... shut up idiot!! at least till you win a fight agian after 4 -5 years.... -.-
In the end, Tito earned everything he got today. he joined mma at the right time with the skill set needed to beat those fighters at the time. If you take a look, 90% of Tito''s fights are against well known fighters of his prime and now. He gets his camera time because of all the fights/rivalries that he has had over the years.
neither of these guys have the right to talk trash. one of them is on a losing streak that shoulda got him cut by now and the other just dominated by gsp for the second time, even worse than the first.
Split decision loses? I dont think so. Tito will finaly be cut ones he gets tko'd by lil nog. Then it's bye bye and enter the hall of fame.(even though he doesnt deserve it)
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...This is getting good.
Lol, I know... Its funny because you really don't know who to side with!
Tito had a point right there, what about you achieve something like a world title and then you can come and talk all the shit you want...
i with tito. yes he hasnt won in a long time but that really got nothing to do with koscheck running his mouth. I dont see kos taking on and beating tito, a large 205 who specializes in the same area as kos, wrestling. Some will say that kos has more cos he is a decent striker now but I dont care what people say kos is not a striker. He just relies on the big right hand, thats his only tool and as seen against gsp, his boxing skills are very limited.
You could say the same thing about the Shamrock brothers or the Gracies, but Kos would destroy all of them. None of them are relevant any longer.
Im with koscheck because at least he has HAIR!!!!!! hahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahaha
I STILL pick Koscheck, thats how irrelevant the Tit really is.
How about Tito simply win against anyone
Damn I guess Tito is right though. He has held the belt....
he is right but damn its been so long for Tito I understand ur Injuries
and stuff he has been a champ wayyyyyyyyy back when but cant talk to much last fight he won a washed up Shamrock in 06...last time he won
for real besides old ass Shamrock............against Elvis in like 02 he had
TKO stoppage by cut against who else Shamrock but Ken was pretty bad back then.....any other win was a split decision is a win though
but like Forrest personally thought Forrest won the last 2 round, thought he dominated same with Belfort.....but he is right his loses were against top5 ranked guys and hope to see if he turned a page
cause he has great wrestling, insane GnP,.and fast hands....he has been around the block a couple times compared to Kos but hope
they fight cause all the chit talk will be great ....Tito...lol...he bleached his hair cause I did,.begging for photos....going to get good
i got a headache reading that
haha, I'd have to go with tito since I can't stand kos' crappy remarks that he thinks are sly. Honestly, Tito does have SOME kind of a point about his record though when looking at his losing streak...
1. Chuck Liddell (TKO)
2. Rashad Evans (draw): since Tito was deducted a point, he could have technically won but I don't remember the fight and wasn't sure if him holding the fence made a big difference
3. Lyoto Machida: almost caught lyoto in a triangle, but still a pretty understandable loss
4. Forrest Griffin (split)
5. Matt Hamill: honestly, not sure what to make of this loss
I am by no means a fan of either but just looking at facts
Funny that Koscheck is sideshow bob. When Tito beat up his coked up wife. And Tito talking about winning a world title. He won a world title like 7 years ago. Half of the people watching MMA have probably never seen Tito win a fight. I would like to see him win a title, but he can't even beat Helen Keller.
Im sure he can beat Helen Keller..
Im sure we can get strikeforce to do a catch weight if tito gets released,
Strike force Ortiz vs keller!
Tito having a " world title" dosent mean anything! i mean he was champion when? at UFC 30's? was there even fighters in the division besides him?
there was just 1 fighter coming at the time fighting for the title back then , the only reason he won is because there was no good fighters and he was the few cutting weight back then.
after losing his title he lost again vs chuck then his famous 5 win streak was vs a middleweight,a split D over Belfort, split D over Forrest and 2 wins over Old Shamrock.
Koscheck is an ass but he has some wins. But Koscheck is the biggest prick , Tito is just hype and excuses.
i dont even think is possible a fight between then i mean at what weight? Tito barely makes 205 and koscheck cannot weight over 190.
2 ****s don't make a right.
Hahaha! Now that's hilarious.
They do male it fun to watch though :)
You're right. I enjoyed watching Kos get beat down by GSP.
Wow today i was just talking about t'hese 2 guys putting on bad TUF's against guys they really have no business being in the ring with, all talk no substance.
Now they wanna fight each other? Hey whatever. If the sport is going the way or the talker, might as well have them fight each other rather than have them waste anyone elses time
Tito saying 'Go win some fights' , hilarious lol
I think Kos would actually beat Tito idk why but i just have a feeling he would
tito ortiz is probably the biggest overpayed looser douchbag in the sport!!!! whay they let him still talk in front of a camera... shut up idiot!! at least till you win a fight agian after 4 -5 years.... -.-
I agree ..
He is totally irrelevant to the division.
Why people keep interviewing him as if he is some star is beyond me.
He probably has 3 fans in the world and is going nowhere - and he is a wife-beater to boot..
When Tito made his name he was young, un-injured, and surrounded by people not as talented as he was. All 3 of those things have changed.
i mean im not a tito ortiz hater... not at all!!!
he is a "legend" in some ways...
but at some point in your life you need to realize
that you have to shut the **** up.. im so sick of it!!!!
remember the dana vs ortiz sparring match thing???
(4 -5 years ago) he talked bull shit the whole time
and pulled out the last day... -.-
TUF same thing... he annoyed me the whole show
talking trash about chuck... finaly pulled out cause he was
scared being brutalized again... let chuck lose his fight
against a much better fighter and now he says he
wont fight chuck cause he is an old man bla bla???
come on... and he is still payed like he is a big thing...
In the end, Tito earned everything he got today. he joined mma at the right time with the skill set needed to beat those fighters at the time. If you take a look, 90% of Tito''s fights are against well known fighters of his prime and now. He gets his camera time because of all the fights/rivalries that he has had over the years.
Fck tito what a whiner! koscheck would beat tito EASY! btw tito is the who should stop talking smack!
neither of these guys have the right to talk trash. one of them is on a losing streak that shoulda got him cut by now and the other just dominated by gsp for the second time, even worse than the first.
Tito's so washed up he forgot how to talk trash right. I'm selling my Team Punishment shirt.
Nothing like two D bags crying it out together.
That's good, Ortiz, because Kos would probably kick your ass.
"I bleach my hair because you bleach your hair" LOL!
Koscheck wants to motorboat Tito's ass, but Tito's already got Jenna to do that for him.
Koscheck wants to motorboat Tito's ass, but Tito's already got Jenna to do that for him.
"Why would I wanna give this guy any attention?"
I have no idea, but you just did.
Kos is a lot of things, but an ass-kisser, I don't think so.
"Win some fights?"
How about you try that Tito. Kos faces the same level of competition you do, if not higher. And he actually wins most of the time.
There are at least 15-20 guys in the UFC now that would kick the shit out of the best Tito that ever lived. All he ever excelled at was wrestling.
Bottom line: Kos just fought for a world title. Tito is one beatdown, courtesy of Lil Nog, from getting cut.
Split decision loses? I dont think so. Tito will finaly be cut ones he gets tko'd by lil nog. Then it's bye bye and enter the hall of fame.(even though he doesnt deserve it)
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