Official CSAC statement regarding Chael Sonnen

LMFAO< lance armstrong

Chael has a great poker face in public he knew about the results for awhile and was still doing interviews, and mma live. He must of had the sick feeling in his stomach everytime someone praised him for the fight.

Oh, now I am dying to see what excuse they come off with, I mean a month later he was probably still taking steroids the night before the fight or something and if it was for a medical reason he should pull out of the fight, that cheating bastard...

He will be back!!

but who knows who will be fighting in a year!

Belfort , Nate , Silva , Okami



i only know that hes coming back stronger and more hungry than ever!

Wow! Dana's new golden boy ... what a let down.



Could you imagine if Silva had tested positive? He'd have been cut from the UFC forever that day!

Chael Sonnen is a liar and a CHEATER...Who's the real FRAUD now? Not even ROIDS could help you beat Anderson Silva....what does that say about Anderson Silva?

Really super smart theory p4p. He was trying to get away with cheating, but he just forgot to stop juicing to be clean for the test. No, really, not even being sarcastic. That theory is super, super smart.

@p4p



Why would they need to come up with an excuse? They could just search here and recycle the excuses some of the other idiots come up with.



ömg the only reason i did steroids is to get over my terrible cold i had before the fight!"

He did use it for a Medical Reason... Just look at his face ! lol :)

Yeah I guess it is smarter to think that he was on roids for medical reason and just forgot to mention it.

Actually....he didn't forget to mention it. He told the test official.

He did mention it p4p, try to keep up.

Does it make sense to you 222, that someone who is trying to juice, with Chael's Olympic connections, would blow his cycle so incredibly badly that he still tests positive more than a month after the fight? Did he just not know that he should end his cycle sooner? That doesn't seem weird to you? He f'd it up that badly?

Or the feeling of someone creeping on him saying "you will get caught idiot"

"Great poker face"- meaning he's a good liar. Not an admirable attribute, but not surprising (he is a politician after all; would-be politician that is).



Not so sure about that "sick feeling in his stomach" comment. Think you're giving him too much credit. I have a feeling he felt just fine.



I use to be a fan by the way.

Almost a month after the fight I should say. A few days short of a month. He really must have just started sticking needles in himself with no clue at all what he was doing?

@ston3pony

I agree that's why i believe he was ill before the fight and he decided to take it anyway believing he would win and have some glory however brief. i got a question doe where does it say he took a test after the event I think maybe they had they the sample retested after the event that's usually what happens with Olympic testing but only when people immediately deny it.

It doesn't make sense that they would re-test the first sample. He told them what would be there, they confirmed it. Nobody is claiming that the first test was not accurate. Chael told them it would be positive. Why test it again? And, why report the 2nd test of the same sample as if it were news?



I think he completely believed that he was going to win. You saw a lack of confidence somewhere? I don't know...

Exactly...was waiting for that confusion to get clarified or I would have done it. They VERY likely didn't have Sonnen give another sample to test - they simply ran the tests on the sample again that was already given.

To you guys who believe Chael wasn't trying to cheat, what is your belief? Why did he test positive? And to you guys who thought it was taken by accident, who cares because the guy should know the rules of his own sport. If he took a banned substance he deserves the punishment. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Not even a medical reason is going to be a excuse, people who are defending Chael is the kind of people who likes to be fool by politicians or celebrities.

i'm not defending what he did i'm just surprised at the how stupid he is. For 1 taking them and 2 not pulling out of the fight if he knew he would get caught. I hear he''l be on ESPN MMA LIVE can't wait for that

CSAC - is still failing to identify the drug.



What is the drug that they are saying he took? It's a simple question.



Surely, the drug has been identified, so why not just spit it out and say..."this is what he was taking...this is how much he took and this is how he ingested it." What is the problem, here? Why is CSAC failing to disclose?



Anton's Observation - ..."Sonnen tested positive even one month after his fight.."



The way I would read CSAC's chronology of this Anton - would be that the tests, done weeks apart, were from the same "original" sample(s) take from Sonnen @ the time of the fight (either pre or post). I do not believe CSAC is inferring that they retested Sonnen in September, weeks past the fight,



This entire incident has been handled poorly and unprofessionally by all parties - IMO.

Because they don't need to disclose, look back and history and there has never been a case in any sport where a specific substance was named from a commission because they can't, it violates privacy laws for them to name the substance without the consent of the offending party.

@ Chocolat



Privacy Laws - where is the privacy, here? We know he's been banned from the UFC / Fighting for 1 year and fined. The fine, in comparison to the time sidelined (I might add), are completely out of step and disproportional, to one another; the fine a joke; the suspension a serious financial and professional - hit. All this post does is re-confirming the “murky” story we already knew, yet, it proves nothing. Until they come right out and tell us what he’s taken and proven it demonstratively, then they established nothing. That is not an opinion. That is a fact.



The moment CSAC issued the finding, they turned it from a private matter to a public matter. I'd also add that the fight and the fighters are public persona's, fighting in a public event, for profit drawn from the public's purse, all as broadcast to the public, with all the fights having odds, wagers and payouts.



The Public has a dog in this fight - if a fight rigged or a fighter a cheat, the public has a right to know; regardless of whether or not the discovery was pre or post fight. Hiding behind the skirt of regulation or precedence, is not an acceptable reason, practice, nor excuse.



Here’s a question that needs to be addressed – “if” Sonnen cheated and it can be proven, why should he be allowed to keep his purse?



I’m a fan of Sonnen’s, but my defense of him is not a biased one; I just want the proof. And until that is presented and I know the “full” story, then I shall reserve my judgment of him and consider him an up-standing and ethical fighter.



I’d also add – I think Dana’s lack of leadership on this subject is pathetic.

@WingChun



Agree totally with the Dana comment. Where is this guy? This is one of the biggest controversies ever in the sport right now. Why isn't he talking?

@ Wing Chun (AKA Wing Tsun, AKA the 9th Generation) posits an interesting question. When does any of the Chael Affair become private versus public. How do we balance Sonnen's rights versus the right to know. I agree with what Wing Chun has said about the public right to know in the case of a public persona. Suppose, however, there is a medical issue involved. Does privacy become an issue then?



Excogitating with vigour (= U.S. vigor)



Michael

@ BruceLee (AKA "The Modified One")



Your fecundity, Mr. Lee, knows no bound.



Excogitating - Now, that is impressive Modified One. I've been trying to figure out how to use what word (online) for years and just couldn't pull it off (not without coming across as an odious ass, at least) and (yet) you just show up and drop it - boom. And with vigor, no less.



I stand in awe, Michael.



Cheers,



Wing Chun



...hey - Michael? You're not Michael "The Count" Bisping, are you?



BruceLee - (AKA "The Modified One" / AKA "Possibly Michael Bisping")

I don't understand the confusion here... They only extract the trace in the sample. Those compounds are what is used to identify the substance abused. In this case it is anabolic steroids... These guys do not urinate the exact substance they ingested. So, yea the guy was using roids. Thats that... There is nothing more to it. Only Chael can identify it, but what is there to "identify?" What else do people want? Are some really expecting him to come on the air and say "I shot steroids in my ass!" Because if thats what some are waiting for, then they will be waiting a very long time. As far as Dana White, how is his "leadership" pathetic? Because he chose to let the Commission and the athlete in question handle these issues? Why would he drag the entire company he stands for into this kind of situation? To stand behind one of his fighters who chose to cheat and deceive his fellow athletes and his new found fans? At least he has not been cut.... For now anyway.

No I mean they literally can not say what the substance was because they don't have Chael Sonnen's consent, anabolic steroids aren't a controlled substance, it's not a crime to take them, it is simply against the commissions rules, so they have the right to suspend but not to disclose, that is up to the offending party to decide.

wing chun indeed.

you have to get sonnen's balls outta your mouth long enough to see the light.

Second sample was ordered and he tested positive again but you still have his balls in your mouth and all you post is homo-drivel.

@ Smegma - (AKA "Penis Crud" / AKA "Cheese Build-up")



Where to begin with "you"?



First - for those that are unaware of what or who you are, let me apprise:



Smegma - a buildup of skin and other crud found between the foreskin and penis; also available in female form.



So let's get this right - you went out on the Internet and chose the handle (of) "SmegmaTosser" - LOL!!! Good for you. You probably have a "tramp stamp" (tattoo) just above the crack of your ass, which reads - "I give head for butts".



And Penis Curd - what's with all the homoerotic imagery? Balls in mouth...Homo drivel (two words, by the way)? What is going on in either your head or your life?



I can just imagine you - that scene from Silence of the Lambs on (a) loop, in your living room...the one where the guy stands in front of the mirror, tucks his genitals between his legs and then begins to state how much he'd like to **** himself; "yeah, I'd **** me." You draw comfort from it. Probably even went out and bought a 55 inch screen, to play it on.



Listen Cheese Build-up - no one cares what you think. My suggestion to you, would be that you spend more time on improving the quality of your life and your atrocious writing skills and less time worry about what I think. And it is obvious that you care what I think; I wish I could say that I was flattered, but alas I cannot. For me to say so, would imply that you have value - and I see none, there.



Concluding - you should immediately attach your trailer to the truck and move away from the nuclear plant, power lines, heavy metals recycling station and PCB diposal facility that you currently live by, for I fear for your health. I would also strongly suggest that you change your diet and stop eating so much canned Spam and Wonder bread. And you are too old for the Harry Potter underwear, you should really lose those.



Cheers to you Penis Curd,



Wing Chun

Damn it. Another one bites the dust.

@ Wing Chun (AKA Wing Tzun / AKA Yip Man)



bravo... bravo



I feel sorry for ol' Buffalo Bill tho ha ha

The second sample can also not necessarily be tested as positive but may have been used to see what his testosterone levels normally are, and if they were way down it would be conclusive evidence that something was used to boost his levels.

First half of your post = weak.



Second half of your post = sharp.

Would the fact that he told them he used something, be better evidence that he used something?

Agreed !!!!



Why is it so hard for them to come out and say what it was



I for one, am sick of all these stories about ' steroid substance' this 'over normal testesterone levels' that -WTF



Just say what it was, I doubt theyre waiting for Chael to give a statement....................

unless their being cautious about what they accuse Chael of taking and later find out that it was not the same substance.



they're a professional anti - doping agency



they are lacking the professionalism....... maybe not the dopey though



I just want this whole thing cleared up and over with once and for all......... im sure im not the only one

wrote this earlier *cough cough* (;

Haha everyone say thanks bluntsandbeers!

lmao k i see your point. i sound like a whiny baby (:

Nah nah we really appreciate the work homie. Lord knows I won't post anything. Call me lazy I know.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/c53d48a4a1/all-drug-olympics



:D

A politician fraud badass for mortgage scam,steroids ...maybe much more than that.imo

Too bad anabolic steroids don't strengthen you submission defense skills.

Thank-you for that comment!

The best part of this whole thing is that this might, perhaps, finally make him shut his stupid mouth and tone the trash talking down.



Next time he starts calling legitimate champions "fake" and "frauds" people are going to look at him like he is a total, utter moron. Then again, that didn't stop him before.

Wow, this had alot of respect from fans after his fight with silva, now gone thanks to his stupid dicisions

They aren't saying what drug he was taking because they don't know. All that they know is that his testosterone to estrogen ratio was too high for a normal person. Meaning he took something to boost the amount of testosterone in his body.



They can't say what he was taking to do it, but they can say, with reasonably certainty, that he did.

Smart guy!

Lol, thank you!! I was wondering why people are asking that question and blaming the Commission... They tested the hormone levels and/or any trace compounds in his urine. As I said above, the athlete doesn't urinate the same substance he ingests. Only Chael knows exactly what he used. So why are some people calling the CSAC unprofessional? They said very early on that Sonnen had not identified the substance. However, its anabolic steroids. Thats what causes the elevated levels of those hormones. Its pretty cut and dry at this point. The only thing that I can see a person waiting for now is the possibility that Chael might explain himself, which is not likely because again, its pretty straight forward. He used them for the same reason any athlete in any sport uses them... To gain an unfair advantage in one way or another.

Chael took STEROIDS enough said....Has anyone heard of Dana? I can't wait to see what Dana has to say about his golden boy being on ROIDS..Have a nice Vacation, Sonnen!

how ironic would it be if he got testicular cancer

too bad sonnen didnt win by decision, this woulda made the story all the more interesting

Oh please no. That would have been CRAZY!!!

What a douche! No respect at all for this guy!

hero to zero that quick lol. damn i was starting to become a big fan of his... quite disappointed! facts dont lie cant argue with that.

I think they tested the sample twice?? They diddnt actually bring him in again as the Writer claims on a "2nd test" or did they??

This leaves me wondering how the fight could have went.

Sonnen= DOUCHE BAG

Sonnen nut huggers= sonnen's used tampon

I never thought I would say those words but.... I agree with Stone3Pony's comments on this one!

Its amusing how even after hes been suspended by the UFC, and how they said he DID take an anabolic steroid (and as I understand he admitted to it himself), people refuse to believe it because they didn't say specifically what substance.

What a f-ing tool. The one guy that had it with Silva, the one that i thought might come back and stomp Silva and he is a roider... disgrace to ufc and mma. I just want to shit on Sonnens face while Silva is there punching his nuts in. What a tool... What a tool? Why haven't i seen this on ESPN or anywhere else?

STOP sucking FAIL Sonnens nuts you really looking gay in front of everybody

People...biology major here. I don't know exactly how the test is run, but obviously they found that high levels of testosterone were found in comparison to estrogen levels. That is what some steroids do. Some steroids are precursors to steroids - meaning, the body can convert them to either testosterone or estrogen or both. Some steroids are straight up testosterone. Likely, Chael was taking something that is either straight up testosterone or has a high conversion rate into testosterone.



For the people that want to know the exact name of the chemical introduced into his system, I am guessing you are waiting to hear names like 'trenbolone' or 'stanozolol', but you won't always. And as for Wingchun wanting to know things like how it was introduced and how much, those aren't necessarily able to be derived either. Hope that clears some things up for people.

For all the people that are bashing Sonnen fans. If anyone was his fan before this, and was a real fan, they are still a fan. And just very disappointed and let down at the moment. But everyone else doesn't just have to rub it in. Personally, I feel bad for Chael, considering so many of these guys do steroids and don't get caught. And we all knew how bad he just wanted to be champion for at least one day. So say whatever you want, he already lost the fight, the rematch. Maybe everything. I just feel bad for him, cuz he is one of the many that do it. And one of the few that get caught.

A good example of how republicans get things done.Foul mouth and foul play.

Guys, just let it go, defending Sonnen now, when he clearly took and still takes steroids, only makes you look like Sonnen fanboys that will defend him no matter what? What as he accomplished? Did he won something...? Hes he a respectful long time fighter...?



The only accomplishment that guy had was being funny, using sarcasm very well, being the king of trash talk, taking insults to another level... oh, and lasting longer or giving a better fight to Anderson Silva...



The subject is closed now, he isnt the first or the last that has benn caught using illegal substances. Now get over it, stop trying to defend him or find justifications or reasons for what he done. We will see him in a year... if he doesnt win a political position on a redneck land first...

We will get the other side ( dare I say the truth) of the story tonight.

STOP the GAYNESS at least your boy stone3pony knows when to give up instead of being gay and getting WEAKED like crippla

wtf? Someone is posting with my name and I dont' know how. I was sitting here one day and seen a murderous1 on my computer talking gay this and gay that, so I dont know how or why, but somebody's jacked my account.



So Crippla, sorry man. I dont know who this douche is on my account, but in all honesty, I'm pulling for Sonnen. I knwo he's already gone for a year, but I hope something comes out to where he didn't take the needle. I really liked him and thought he was going to bust Silva's ass in the rematch.