Nick Diaz will not "accept" loss to Carlos Condit, says retirement is possible

well thats because he didnt lose the fight

No that's because he's a cry baby he should gtfoh!!everyone in mma knows the diaz brother's have great chins.The only thing he did was constantly move forward and that last submission attempt.What else did he do that Carlos didn't do better?he impressed me but I got pissed at his comment at the end, ****ing sore loser!he's mad because Carlos was able to avoid his traps and stick to his game plan, something "cowboy" Cerone failed to do against nick.Carlos landed more and threw a variety of attacks.that's the only way win the diaz brothers.Shout out to Greg Jackson!! Even though I liked Carlos win, I would have preferred to see Nick vs Gsp tho' just saying

It's a damn shame how fighters can use the loop holes in the scoring cards to win. Carlos didn't come to win at all. The sport is getting so dumb anymore. Why can't Pride just come back.

Condit was outstriking Diaz.....man I hate when fighters that outstrike their opponents lose!!



Why cant Leonard Garcia just win all his decisions like hes supposed....



*huff puff*

lol look at condits face and look at diaz that says it all. .of course condit didn't stand toe to toe with diaz. he's not a dumbass. he took landed shots and avoided diaz... condit won fair and square nick is just a sore loser.

Wow, evading = loophole? Taking advantage of your opponent's unwillingness to wrestle you and hold you in place = loophole? Backing up because you have a very kick oriented gameplan and your opponent is constantly trying to close to punch range = loophole? Landing more strikes than your opponent in every round but one while evading = loophole? I suppose if Diaz had gone for a takedown then stuffing that would have been a loophole too, huh?



Nick had a gameplan, the exact same one he brings to every fight, and this time someone was ready for it. He was out maneuvered, out struck, out damaged, out worked, and he lost. Had this been a Pride match, he would have lost just as badly there.

I don't think thats a fair assessment. Condit hit hard and hit often. He didn't want to stand toe to toe for 5 rounds and so he countered. Silva beat Griffin (and every body else) that way.

Oh wait a minute, Diaz didnt outstrike Condit.... :l

who cares about that, there are more parts to a fight then strikes you moron

I guess grappling would be the other important part to a fight.... aggression would be a small-medium part

But there was no grappling...except in the 5th at the last minute(literally)



Condit won 49-46 in my book. Maybe 48-47 Condit...but thats really pushing it(I would score it like that if I was a Diaz fan)

Not in that fight there wasn't. Now who's the moron? (hint: its you)

wow, we were watching different fight diaz esily won 47-46

Yeah you must have thought Carlos was Diaz for the exchanges and then Diaz was Diaz for pushing forward. So then came to the conclusion that no matter what Diaz wins.

It was closer than 49-46 but Diaz clearly lost.

diaz should have just ran away too and then there would have been two guys going in the opposite direction, i thought this was mma not mexican bullfight

No Daiz should of thru real puches and kicks when he went at him not that stockton slap chit should of went to kick his ass

cant really do that when somebody is running away

If you are a marathon runner than just catch up. You're all cluckin like a bunch of hens at the fact that Diaz lost. Even when he was cornered Condit scored great shots and then simply got outta there and came back to face him again.

@biggermmafan- They have a tool in MMA that's used to stop your opponent from running around. It's called wrestling. People have been saying for years that Nick's wrestling is weak, and he just proved it to them.

@ JTalbain. You are correct. Also, Diaz was trying to trap Condit against the fence and in the corners but he failed.

no he never faced him, he would throw a few weak shots and run away

@biggermmafan - if he "throw a few weak shots" then how come Diaz's face is beat up and Condi'ts isn't?

Or Diaz could take a page from Rick Story's book and accept that not every fighter will blithely stand on the cage while he beats the crap out of them, then use some wrestling to position them for the beatdown. Yes, Carlos ducked away and trotted back to the center every time his back hit the cage, but Diaz just stood there and watched him do it. Nick was advancing the whole time, but he honestly didn't control the octagon at all. He could have used the clinch, he could have tried to take him down, he could have tried to knee Condit in the face when he predictably ducked away for the 50th time, but he didn't do any of that. As you said, this is MMA, not a boxing match.

god damn, i've been waiting for diaz vs gsp for YEARS. now this bullshit. And i'm a canadian too, but man, who didn't want to see that fight? so sick of this american scoring system bullshit. beat up a fighter by doing no damage? wtf kind of age do we live in? soon basketball teams will be winning games without landing any hoops

GSP fight by exploiting the "American Scoring System" so what is your point?

lol, that will make him back pedal a little bit.

How did GSP score the fight? It looked to me like he was shaking his head in disagreemant after the dec was announced

Actually, those leg kicks were starting to buckle Diaz's right leg by the fifth round. When Carlos saw that, he briefly went in for the kill, then thought better of it. Although if you're comparing damage, just look at Diaz's face compared to Condit's.

sorry but heisthebiggest cry baby from Stockton was close fight but both didnt look good Daiz could of shot and just let his hand fly more would of one neither went to finish and im sorry but if he could just go for it and this fight and the BJ fight went all round Nick just isnt the mann he use to be

Dana and them did great on the prime time for his image and then he said what he said he was able to do more and didnt im sorry i was a fan but now sucks to have a great fight fight like that he did push the fight but was countered the whole time then his takedown was crap he sould of been able to finish that fight but already thought he was special who is he to be special like all the crap he has done from the get go...mannn

im pissed on how he has been and the chances he has had took for granted...

I hate Diaz, but he did win 3 rounds. The striking exchanges were pretty even, but I could see where Condit edged Diaz out in that area. Scoring the "octagon control" factor is where discrepancies occur. Overall, Diaz won. Joe Rogan is good, but don't be swayed by his opinion. Watch the fight on mute and say that Diaz didn't win.

GSP is going to teach Condit a proper lesson in point fighting.

@biggermmafan I disagree. Diaz did a great job of pressing the action and was close to winning at the end but Condit out struck him and did more damage. It was a very close fight but I have to agree with the judges here. I think that the first two rounds could have gone either way but were probably Nick's while rounds three through five were clearly Carlos' rounds.

i understand that he outstufc him and that he did more damage, i just felt his performance was disgraceful to mma, he was running away, kimbo, lesnar and now condit, there is a special class for fighters like these

Is that how you train people to fight? Go against what got them there and avoid confrontation at all cost when faced with an opponant as dangerous as themselves? Carlos fought a smart fight, but I think he wonders if he could have beat Nick in war; which is what I paid to see.

Condit was saying that he had the tools to take Nick Diaz out. But I guess his trainers made him leave those tools at home.

@Mike - if Condit "avoided confrontation at all cost" as you say, how did Diaz's face get beat up? They were both running but Diaz couldn't catch him. Diaz's problem.

....Diaz didn't run...wtf. Diaz also let himself get hit to prove condit couldn't hurt him.



Too bad refs don't score that way....except in the machida fight.Oh wait, machida actually looked like he could take rampage out at some point

The difference being that Kimbo and Lesnar were running away from fights they couldn't deal with. Condit was repositioning in order to keep himself out of danger. He fought smart, stayed evasive, and kept active. Lesnar turned, ran, and curled into the fetal position to try to escape.

What Condit did was more similar to what Machida does than what Lesner has done. I didn't see any cartwheels ;)

i dont see how you can be a fight fan and still think condit won :S like superbowl weekend the ufc puts on a great match up and one guy runs away the whole time....

supid gameplans at greg jacksons ****in boring ! i wanna watch a fight not a grown man pussy footing around for 25 mins come onnnn

Diaz didn't control the octagon, he pushed forward, but Condit controlled where the fight took place. Nick tried to back Condit up to the cage, then looked confused when Carlos danced away, but more importantly, he didn't really try to stop him. Diaz was more aggressive, but aggression does not equal octagon control.

Watched the fight on mute...saw Condit landing more strikes and the better ones.



Diaz didnt win.





...wtf were you trying to prove again?....

I watched the fight at a crowded sports bar, and the commentators could not be heard over the noise in the place. But I did hear Rogan say at the last bell that he hoped the Diaz Sub attempt was enough to get the dec. I didn't know what to think of that at the time. Then the dec was announced and Condit was getting the belt wrapped round his waist; and the whole bar started to boo! The place cleared out in about 3 minutes after the dec. There were a few cheering, but most of the patrons seemed to feel the same as me......robbed.

cndit stalled the whole fight, like when fabric wedum was laying on the ground vs overeem, and werdum did outstrike overeem but overeem did win the fight, same things here

*nate

he won three of the five rounds, or were we watching a different fight

I think you were watching a replay of Diaz V Daley.

59-56 condit is just ridiculous

it's f*cking ABSURD

So was 30-27 by all three judges for Sonnen.



Don't see why everyone is crying foul play, i was @ Hooters surrounded by Stockton drunks & they knew Diaz lost.



Like i said before, he shouldn't of been so worried about Rush.....remember when i said that & got weaked over 30 times, then dumptruck ass Entity tried to clown me. How it taste now punk?

If you think Diaz won that fight you can go put your belt around his waist and suck his ****!..Then STFU!!weak me if u want but the interim belt remains on the smarter/better well deserved winner!! yeaa eat it!

Sure you have big balls man whos never cry. Go and try fight yourself you disrespectful mother****er. .i..

I'm taking my bat and ball and going home (Imagine big pouty lower lip)

That's what I did last night Bruce. Big pouty lip and all>

Im having fun reading all the crap on this page 8)

your an idiot

Nick didn't back down or run the whole fight. I get it that condit landed more strikes but he ran like a lil bitch the entire fight. That's not what a true champion fighter does. Even I have been critical of GSP lately cause some of his fights havent been the most exiting but he is a true champion he never backs down he. He always comes to fights and he succeeds whether it's standing up or on the ground. I'm sure condit is happy that he has took a major step foward in his career but if he really has the heart of a fighter he should be disappointed with this victory.

Yea i sorta thought the decision was BS, but nick LET himself get hit too many times. It's hilarious to compare this fight to the machida rampage fight and watch nuthuggers try to explain themselves.



Condit was backing down the entire time, he was hitting but nothing seemed to phase nick who would corner condit and hit him with something that looked like it actually did damage, condit would then fully turn away from nick and run. Meanwhile pride guys claim rampage won when he never even hit machida and constantly got hit...but he was moving forward so that's enough.



Nick ought to be pissed about that decision...guess next time he shouldn't give away hits though.

Personally, If I were Condit, I'd just be impressed that I'd kicked my opponent 68 times in the same leg and he didn't even change stances. Diaz had a plan and has a really good weapon, but when it was stripped away from him, he had nothing. A true MMA champion always has another tool, and can always find a way to win. And he sure as hell doesn't cry about his opponent foiling his strategy and threaten to quit when he loses.

computer warrior

Diaz lost man get over it.

We're all computer warriors. Your skills are letting down Diaz right now.

OK, first of all Nick was scared, that's why he didn't show up and didn't fight GSP. Second thing is, he doesn't fake that injury, pictures are proving it. Oh and I almost forgot, the judges scoring is very good.

uneducated: the only way to define your reasoning

Based on what?

Existance, the only way to describe the current interim champ.

oh yeah cause they didnt want the big money fight of Diaz vs GSP

Ok calm down dude Condit showed that Diaz is not the best guy in this game. DW doesn't really hate Diaz and he has 0 control of what happens with the judges decison, the proof is that he's always saying "fighterA got robbed" "fighterB got robbed".

No they would of made much more money if Diaz fought GSP, there would of been way more PPV sales.

I agree with bob the builder.

You agree with a guy who has 0 arguments to defend his false points and has a biased point of view when it comes to defending the man who was clearly beat by Carlos Condit.

Technical battle: The best way to show Diaz is NOT a smart fighter.

I gave Diaz the first two rounds. He landed more shots, and like he said, he was the one coming forward the whole fight.



I gave Condit rounds 3 and 4, because while he was still moving backwards, he clearly outlanded Diaz.



Round 5 is a no brainer. Diaz was by far the closest to finishing this fight of either guy at the end. The only reason Condit escaped was because Diaz went for an armbar with 15 seconds left.



49-46 Condit is a joke.

That is the first intelligent argument I have read for Diaz being the winner. I don't agree but I see your point and acknowledge the reasonableness of the premise.

Not the true number one contender? Well he outstruck Diaz who was supposed to be the number one contender so yes he is the number one contender.

Please educate yourself about mixed martial ARTS before saying something without arguments.

Okay.

he says that every time he losses maybe if he would accept his failures he could learn from them and come back stronger instead of repeating them and then crying about it afterwards.

you cant fight the judges, and expecting him to knock out the best of the best is a little unreasonable

um that's the hype train everyone was talking about. leading up to this fight rogan and everyone else was talking about how diaz knocks out the best strikers and fighters. now you say its unreasonable?

He probably did fight the judges later.

yes he did...he didnt win the way he wanted as he usually bullies his opponants which is usually the most effective...carlos had an answer for diaz' strategy which diaz didnt like.

i had carlos landing most strikes throughout the 5 rounds, diaz had a few connections but most noticibly was him taking carlos from behind which carlos immediatly defended, and if you watch the end of the fight, carlos mounted diaz and was punching away, so another 10/20 seconds, who knows but carlos DID win that fight

The only reason Carlos got out was because Diaz realized he didn't have time to choke him out and went for an armbar with 15 seconds left. If there had been another minute or two in that fight, Condit was going to sleep.



The fight ended with both fighters going for leg locks, and Condit most definitely did not have diaz mounted.

If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumped. Doesn't matter why Diaz didn't keep trying to choke him. He stopped it, went for the armbar and lost position.



And Condit was defending the choke quite nicely, the one time it was even close he was able to literally just push Nick's arms up and off him. Nick wasn't gonna choke anybody.

Carlos Condit was locked up in a body triangle. Yes, he pushed Nick's arms of one time. Without the constraints of 1 minute remaining in the round, Nick could have kept attempting the choke.



Believe this, Condit was not getting out of that body triangle on his own, and he would have eventually tired and got choked. Its a damn near impossible position to get out of.



He was essentially saved by the end of the round.

"Without the constraints of 1 minute remaining in the round"



I didn't know 6 minutes rounds existed...



Dude wake up Nick Diaz lost and didn't have time to finish Carlos because Carlos Condit was TOO GOOD for him.



That "saved by the bell" thing isn't an argument, it's a supposition of what could have happened if the rules were different, if this wasn't mma, that's pure objectivity and speculation, just to find an excuse to Diaz' loss.

So what your saying is if they made the fight longer Diaz would have won.

Who said anything about 6 minute rounds?



I was only referring to the fact that Nick took Condit's back with 1 minute left instead of earlier in the round.



I wasn't speculating on anything, I was simply making the argument that Diaz won round 5, and responding to a guy who watched a fight in which Condit finished round 5 in mount position and "punching away" - clearly a different fight than I watched.

Oh come on Diaz lost fair and square, so what if Condit was backing up? Would you rather have him just stand there and get KOd? Condit was fighting SMART. All the people that think Diaz won are just as dumb as Diaz, low class pot smoking losers. Yeah that's what's up.

condit wasnt fighting

condit wasn't fighting? i suppose diaz just ****ed his own face up right? lol you people are funny condit won diaz lost and cried like a bitch

hey it was a five round fight things happen,

You hate Machida too, don't you? Diaz was trying to be a mindless steamroller and Condit was an effective counterstiker. Carlos even threw out some awesome combos while Diaz was trying to figure him out. Last time I saw someone throw out that hook-low kick-high kick combo the way he did was in a video game.

biggermmafan, you are the lesseducatedmmafan. I can perfectly see you have never fought anybody in real life. Fighting is all about, first of all, not getting touched, and secondly, touching the other guy. Condit was fighting, he damaged Diaz so much that he sent him into retirement. Condit was more technical, faster, better and Diaz wasn't able to adjust to him fighting style because he was to fluid and too intelligent for him. That's it.

ive been in many fights

if adjust to his fighting style you mean stop moving completely then yes he failed to stop trying to fight and press the action

The Titan, you are pathetic. First off, accusing people of being dumb and smoking pot cause they think a fighter won is dumb. You my friend should just go roll another blunt and delete your account here.

I think he's just tired of seeing people writing shit about Condit's fighting style.

Just like you.

Nick really pushed him back and Condit was really scared at him during the beginning of the fight....always backing away. I believe the fight was 3-2 Diaz > Condit. The take down really secured the last round for him. I really hate this division. GSP is at a position where he could dodge fights and Dana White will back him up....anyways.....good fight.

You have never been in a real fight. You can't know how it feels like. When you coutner your opponents strikes, you are not scared, you are better than the other. Simply.



Condit wasn't scared, he simply didn't want to get hit by Diaz, which is what mixed martial arts is all about.

he got pointfighted, and getting pointfighted is frustrating, but this is mma not a backyard brawl, condit knew he wasn't gonna get a ko and didn't want any of the groundgame so he ran his gameplan perfectly and won with his brain instead.

this is true. not too happy with it..........

strikes landed: condit 150 / diaz 105

not exciting but how did Condit not win the fight? plus he caused more damage!

he lost more rounds, ran away, and never pressed the action when you press you take shots its how it goes

Condit won more rounds, escaped Diaz poor tentatives brawl with him and fought intelligently. Pressing the action is just dumb, it's what Chuck Norris doesn't do, it's what stupid brawlers do, it's what you do when you are losing to try to get back in the fight, it's what you do when you fight with your emotions, it's what do you when you desperatly need to win a round. Hopefully for Condit, he was winning, so why would he fight as stupidly as Diaz?

And if you counter strike you may move backwards and most of the greats move backwards.

How'd Nate lose to Grey Maynard when he outstruck him 71to40 with no one scoring takedowns? @ the end of the day it needs to be who came to fight that wins. Warrior spirit>running.

i mean i train and fight by my self....and i can make every fighter look bad by runnin... stop jab and kick him when he comes in an run away again...



if u are a fighter try it i mean its not easy but harder than to fight like a men!!

but mostly i stop doin it course its boring eben in training

warrior spirit doesn't involve talking shit and mocking your opponent. condit won fair and square

Skills>Dumb Diaz fighting

mousasi i agreee 10000 PERCENT, carlos was GSP fighting, and part of judging and to me the most important , OCTAGON COTNROL, and i think making someone run from you the whole fight and CONTROLING the pace of the fight counts big, DIAZ won 1 and 2 and 5. plain and simple, i lost a lot of respect for condit this fight,,,.

We will break it to him gently.

how is octagon control the most important factor in a fight, does octagon control KO, or sub your opponent, or does striking and grappling do that?

this is a spectator sport, octagon control counts for something

Condit got out struck and really did run away for rounds 1 & 2, both won by Diaz.



But in rounds 3 & 4, instead of just running away, Carlos started hitting Diaz on the way in, and then spinning away to avoid combinations.



Nick took three shots to get off one, and instead of staying on top of Condit once he closed, he kept letting him slip away and reset.



Rounds 3 & 4 to Condit. Making someone back up isn't an advantage if he keeps kicking and punching you while they do it.



Most of the last round went the same way as rounds 3 & 4 but then Diaz finally did take Carlos's back. He did it so easily, you wonder why he didn't do it sooner.



It made the fifth a lot closer, and if Nick had actually got close to making Condit tap, you could argue that it was his round.



But he didn't. Although it was a dominant position, it came to late in the fight. Carlos adapted and deserved the win, though not by a much.



And for those of you wondering how one judge scored it 49-46 for Condit, that's easy....Cecil Peoples was judging the fight.

Are you serious?



I could see you giving rounds 1 and 2 to Condit, although personally I wouldn't. He landed some good shots in both of those rounds despite backing up the entire time.



But what Diaz did at the end of the 5th round was by far the most significant action of the fight. It was the only time anyone came close to finishing.



If Diaz won any of the rounds, it was round 5.

Don't make me take out my new keyboard on you. It has lights and sounds and spell check built in... I would kick your a*s with it.

Stockton rules as quoted by the Diaz brothers " whoever's face is more ****ed up, lost the fight". By his own standards he lost the fight. What a little bitch, he lost all my respect as a fighter in mma.

instead of asking for a complete overhaul of the judging system (would be great, but it's unlikely to happen for years.)



how about having live score cards..



although i agree condit won, i firmly believe diaz THOUGHT he was winning, and therefore continued to play along in a game he thought was going his way, had he seen the scores between rounds he would see that pushing the pace wasn't enough, and rounds 3, 4 and 5 would've been very different if he knew he had to score more takedowns, stop condit resetting to the center of the cage etc.

Yes I agree with that, it crossed my mind too in R3.

some guys don't seem to know that thats a fight sport!!!!

u willl never ever see a boxing fight were one guy fight like a bitch or like some of u call it smart in the ring from side to side....

if u cant fight the klitchgos u go down like a man ....close ur eys

u see the HW boxe champ try too fight a guy who is runnnnnin in a circl 12 rouinds i call it dump some of u smart...

u need to fight to be the champ this is mma there are so many options to win but runnin???dump!!!!

k i get it's week just klick it

but are u realy like that shit ?

some guys said look at diaz face i mean come on a u ret....?? this guy was tryin to make a god fight for us guys ...

THIS IS A FU...... FIGHTING SPORT!!!!!

The sport is also MMA. Carlos is not a boxer, he uses Muay Thai and throws a lot of kicks. So when Diaz presses forward into punch range, is Condit supposed to stand there and punch with him or adjust distance to stay in his preferred range? It's not as if Condit wasn't attacking, he outstruck Diaz in every round but the second. Take a look: http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/condit-vs-diaz-official-ufc-statistics.html

he was defending, he wasnt attacking very much

Oh my God, are you incapable of simple math? Look at the numbers on the damn fight report. Condit landed 159/329 strikes, compared to Diaz's 117/258. Condit threw more strikes, Condit landed more strikes, Condit was more accurate, Condit landed more significant strikes, Condit landed a higher percentage of significant strikes. Are you unable to see past your love of Diaz's style enough to see that he got beat fair and square?

Condit drew Diaz in and countered ...very smart fighter he has a new fan after this fight...Diaz looked like a one trick pony in this fight he tried to do his usual volume attack ans smother Condit but he was out struck and couldnt adapt to someone who had the answers to his style.

Well done Condit.

Go get a box of tissues Nick you lost...go away re think and remember you cant just keep doing what you do ...fighters today will find a way around it.......MMA today is the closest thing to Bruce Lee's Jeet kune do that we have ....you do what works for you and what Carlos Condit did worked very well in frustrating Diaz and showing his macho toe to toe boxing ethos to be limited and ineffective against Condits adapting space creating and diverse striking style.

This was a clinic by Condit. Man some mma fans are just dumb brutes. This is mma and anything goes including not needing to stand and trade. It's as dumb as someone saying taking it to the ground is not allowed or striking is not allowed. Not being a moronic stationary target is a defensive skill that clearly gave Carlos a well earned win. Trust me Carlos can go for drinks tonight while Diaz will take a couple of asprins and call it a night. Tomorrow Diaz will not be jogging on those legs.

"comfortable unanimous decision victory"



Who writes this shit?

Great fight,Some beautifull techniques by Condit.Both the fighters showed great endurance and good chins.It looked like Condit outstruck Diaz,but i think everybody has his own opinion about that.Some say he was scared and running.I say he was smart,although i thought the strikes that Diaz landed were harder and had more intention.Condit just tagged diaz ,then reset and tagged him again.He wasn't going to finish the fight ,but survive and score points.Great gameplan which paid of,but it's not going to work against GSP,who also is a tactician.

all these diaz fans that are as sore losers as he is he was beat plain and simple they say condit did no damage he did alot more than diaz and criticizing him for using good footwork and not letting diaz hit him is retarded you say he came to win a points battle he threw landed more and harder shots than diaz all diaz did was walk forward and condit hit him hard a few times diaz even shot for the takedown as i think even he knew he was losing the exchanges which condit stuffed and also his comments after the fight were extremely disrespectful take your loss like a man

Beat by the judges,listening to joe rogan sucking condit off the whole fight doesnt make him the winner. he did no real damage to nick..if anything his legs were tired from chasing condit..

Those marathon legs were tired? He should have ran circles around Condit. Maybe Condit can run better too.

so there are some girls on here

When the fight was over, I tought Diaz had won...



1 and 2 rounds was close but Diaz was moving foward "AND" landing punchs in condits face. This was the only two rounds when Diaz found Condit inside the Cage during exchanges, and the damage in Condits face was due this two rounds.



3 and 4 Condit won, Diaz was moving foward but whithout sucess.... Condit controls de distance, did all the damage, I think Diaz didnt landed anything during de 4....



5 - Diaz changed the game, did landed some lazzy kicks and score the takedown and submition attempt....Condit landed some strikes too, but the takedown and the control on the ground should give Diaz this round.



Could go either way, but I do think Diaz won that fight.

don't like diaz that much but don't hate him.....

but i don't like fights like that sry....

some guy got fighting spirit and wannt to fight some just go for the w...

i agree diaz lost that fight...proobs to the national big killer (don't seem a killa to me at this fight)

i mean i like technical fights too like rashad davis or penn edger machida jones ....they were a lil technical but there were not like some one is runnin away....

why is pride gone ? the rules were better the time .....

joe rogen need s to make a new decition about butin fighters together...

i mean its startin to work out if u are not a good wrestle guy to be ELUSIV(runnin)

i hope son or later we will have a match up with to guys beeing soo elusiv jumpin front and back kicken the shit out of there legs ....technical at its best some will call it dump some smart or maybe its the master plan;)

i mean they are pros and get payed good for fighting so please let them fight .....i one guy whants to fight the other just a w ....the fightin guy will look bad outclassed call it what u want.....i mean ifa wrestler takes u down and do nothing they stand u up why??course we not wanna see bad shit or not ??some guys say this is mma bla bla bla ok !!!then give a wrestler a chance just to hold some one for 5x5 min without put them back on there feet...the other guy needs to get up by himself...

what rules are the best for mma?

1. Condit won

2. Diaz lost

3. Diaz was not able to deal with the very good counter-striking of Condit

4. Condit outstruck Diaz very well

5. Condit was the smarter of the two



Have a nice day!

1. Condit won

2. Diaz lost

3. Diaz was not able to deal with the very good counter-striking of Condit

4. Condit outstruck Diaz very well

5. Condit was the smarter of the two



Have a nice day!

Stuck on stupid?

Well stupid seems to keep showing up whats he to do?

since when did running away from someone and sprinting out of corners win u a fight? condit went in there to win which is understandable but after awhile you start questioning these guys pride and integrity, no matter what anyone says diaz went in there too fight carlos went in there to fight a gameplan... here is and idea how about instead of running away everytime your in a bad position you try to punch your waay out like real fighters do, honestly watching fights like that and seeing how 'some' fighters clearly fight for the judges scorecards makes me wish pride was still here at least than you had people who wanted to fight and wanted to see who the best fighter was not who could come up with the best game plan, diaz won that fight clearly had the octagon control landed some nasty shots (condit did too) but that final take down made me give it 49-48 to Diaz... GET SOME BETTER JUDGES DANA!!

If you dont like the rules dont watch it ...but dont be a bitch about it...only a dummy stands toe to toe and shortens their working life as a fighter ....Carlos nullified Diaz 's style and Diaz didnt change HIS game plan....He just kept on plodding forwards and getting countered....Dummy.

countered with a few kick and a few punches,nick clearly landed the better shots and scored a takedown.i guess running in a fight is the way to go..sure got condit the win

you must be retarded man u don't have too stand right in front of someone but don't have to run away watch the fight again condit on more than one occasion sprinted away from diaz and diaz doesn't come in with these illustrious game plans he comes in too fight he proved that against daley who he could've easily taken down and submitted but diaz is a real fighter he stood toe to toe with one of the best strikers in the WW division put himself in harms way and came out the champion all carlos did last night was run, play to the judges and barely came out with the victory i personally thought he lost and i agree with vicious nature plus condits kicks were weak as **** didn't even phase diaz like he said 'baby leg kicks' he walked right through em might of looked good to the judges tho

Finally some 1 with some common sense

I guess if you're a buffalo that makes sense to you.

You atlk about Diaz going toe to toe with daley and being a man. Well he also has a great chin and so can afford such a tactic(barely since he was nearly KO'd in that fight). In a fight you play to your strengths. how do you think lions take down buffalo? they sure as heck don't run at them head on and all they do the whole fight is circle away and keep distance and strike when opportunity presents itself. I guess lions are pussays! Carlos was locked in a cage with Diaz and his only way out was to win or lose and Diaz had the same situation and Diaz was the buffalo in this fight.

Everything you type is a load of crap..must be nice to live in ur own dream land..

The fights are scored by the round, so the takedown would only win Diaz the final round, not the whole fight. Also, just because of the way Nick fights, I don't think most judges would pay much attention to the first couple of strikes in his flurries, just because they think they're nothing but jabs. Meanwhile, Carlos was landing strong shots that everyone could hear every time he hit. Carlos outlanded Nick numerically and in more impressive fashion.

Diaz lost the sporting match. That wasn't a fight. Not a fight I wanted (or expected) to see anyway. I was beau coup excited for this matchup because it was gonna be a bout between two guys who are aggressive and engage their opponents. Yes, Condit did engage but he played it "smart" and did not let it turn into a brawl. Well, I don't know about you all, but I like to see FIGHTS and not carefully executed Greg Jackson formulated game plans. Where do think this sport would be if it had started out that way? Probably competing with karate competitions for floor space at the local high school. I enjoy the Diaz brothers cuz they come to fight. They stay in your face, they keep moving forward, the come to fight. Same thing did go for Condit but he did not come to fight, he came to win. So congrats to Greg Jacks..err I mean Carlos Condit for his brilliantly executed strategy he employed to win enough points to be victorious in last nights competition...





Oh and btw, if you're go get all holier than though with some " the sport is evolving man" bs, go right ahead. If MMA is evolving into a point based, safest plan wins kinds deal, well, you can keep it.

"Where do think this sport would be if it had started out that way?"



Sanctioned in New York.

And boring as f@#k.

You can't blame Condit for fighting "safe" which a lot of fighters out of Jacksons camp are doing lately, even GSP is using that strategy. The problem with "fighting safe" is that it's bad for the sport really in so far as it makes high profile fights quite boring, like last nights, which definately won't draw any new UFC fans in. Condit didn't come to fight, he came to "outpoint" Diaz, when as usual, Diaz came to fight, Diaz never point fights and to be quite honest i was shocked to see Condit doing it. After all that hype it was a rather boring fight, thanks largely to Condit when it comes down to it. I didn't like Diaz' attitude at the end though, he really needs to learn how to lose gracefully man, even though i can understand why he was upset.

I am not sure Diaz won the fight but it is fact that when two fighters come in fighting like Condit did is when this sport takes a step backwards. I am also pretty sure that a good number of UFC judges would have scored that fight in favor of Diaz, I mean after watching Diego get brutalized by Kampman for 3 rounds and ending up a bloody mess while Kampman didn't take a single hard shot in the entire fight and still Diego wins, this kind of decision does seems rather, lets say, inconsistent.

Sanchez vs. Kampmann was one of the most controversial decisions of the year. Not many people agreed with it, because Kampmann seemed to be clearly winning on every numerical aspect, yet lost the fight. The same can't be said here.

Gsp vs Condit another 5 round decision. Gsp takedown all day. Diaz is a real fighter and comes to fight everytime. Condit gameplan was win by decision and he executed it perfectly. Hit and run gameplan very smart. Good for him. Rather watch Ellenberger vs. Sanchez that will be war. Hope that diaz will not retire that will be huge loss to welterweight divison.

I think his gameplan was actually leg kick to death then pick him apart for a TKO, but Nick's a tough dude.

Diaz 1, 2, 5 and Condit 3 and 4. How was that considered an unanimous decision I don't know, but maybe I wasn't watching the same fight the judges were!! Fair is fair and if you leave it up to the judges, shit never gets judged appropriately!! This is not the first fight I have seen where fighters have been robbed and will not be the last!! Some say Condit was skillful and tactical and Diaz just didn't adapt well. I can agree on both of those notions, but river dancing around the ring and scoring points to me is not my idea of mixed martial arts.Honestly Diaz was frustrated and in the pre-fight interview he said himself that the only thing he feared about this fight is it going to a decision, b/c he knew he would not win. Well he predicted it and sorry to say it happened!! I like nick but whinning and retiring ain't gonna cut it, accept the loss like shogun did in the first fight against machida, train harder and demolish Condit in the future. Other than that take this as a lesson and learn from it!! Finish you freaking fights!!!

sore loser! HA,HA,HA,HA,LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bet big part of Carlos Condit training was running HAHAHAHAHAHAHA