NSAC: Overeem's drug test shows Testosterone levels "higher than normal"
Posted on April 4, 2012, 04:49 PM by Anton GurevichThe Nevada State Athletic Commission issued surprise drug testing for the UFC 146 main card fighters at last week's pre-fight press conference in Las Vegas. Frank Mir, Junior dos Santos, Antonio Silva, Cain Velasquez and Roy "Big Country" Nelson all tested negative for illegal substances, however, it was "The Demolition Man" Alistair Overeem whose test showed testosterone levels "higher than normal".
Here's the word from NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer (via MMAMania.com):
"The following athletes were tested on March 27: Alistair Overeem, Junior dos Santos, Frank Mir, Cain Velasquez, Roy Nelson and Antonio Silva. All test results were negative, except Mr. Overeem tested positive for an increased T/E ratio (> 10). Mr. Overeem will need to appear before the Commission if he seeks licensure."
Overeem was in the same situation before facing Brock Lesnar at UFC 141, when he had to explain the Athletic Commission why his test wasn't submitted on time. The Dutchman now finds himself in a whole world of trouble, as his fight with Junior dos Santos is currently put on hold.
It will be interesting to see whether the UFC decides not to wait for Overeem's hearing from promotional reasons. NSAC's decision against Overeem would leave the UFC with very little time to find a replacement, not speaking about the fact that not so many fighters, including Cain Velasquez and Frank Mir, would agree to face JDS on short notice.
Stay tuned to LowKick.com for more updates.
If Overeem gets suspended by the Athletic Commission, who should replace him vs. JDS?
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Yeesh... hope this works out before the fight.. was looking forward to it...
Dana just punched his assistant in the face and kicked a poor sleeping dog.
Maybe Overeem takes ZMA to increase his test LEVEL XD lol
Can't explain how much I hope this gets worked out!
And I won't be able to explain how much off a dumbass Reem is if it turns out he is using PEDs one way or another - he constantly gets accused of it, got in the way of his last fight and he was almost denied license to fight, knows he will be randomly tested and even off the sauce he will still be stronger than JDS.
For all the REEM fans who spent countless hours bashing Chael Sonnen....RTFLMFAO
there is no way the guy would risk this this is every thing ould be heavy
weight Champ in all major organaztions and UFC is it the pinicle what
he has wanted for years....thinkhe has two random checks wounder how
much over like Chael over or like Coleman over
I keep picturing MMA warcheif or whatever saying Reems the best he has multiple belts and will be UFC Champ Watch and Learn! lmao I watched and learned what I already know, but he learned quite a bit with all that said.
there goes one of overeem fans!!! so a higher than normal testosterone is legal? or you want to change rules?
the injections you take of "test", are in fact steroids jamesmma, i know its hard for someone of your caliber to contemplate, but they are steroids.
the guy is 10:1 buddy!! theres something wrong there wont you say
14:1
I hope there is a way he can blame this on the horse meat, I want to see this fight!
Hendo's looking for a title fight right?........
Hendo would fight at BantamWeight before he takes that title shot.
I don't think so, Hendo hates cutting weight I bet he rather fight a heavyweight than at 185.
Plus he's got brass balls the size of a volvo, he'd do it.
lol, Hendo will fight anyone that will take him higher. He didnt back down from Fedor and TKO'd his ass!
this fight in a way has to happen. Too many failed drug tests have happened already this year alone. there isn't another fight, not even another rematch like Dana loves to do will bring in the attention that JDS n overeem does.
i was waiting for this fight so hard i got MMA Blue Balls while waiting *no homo* this is sooo gay *yes homo* motha-f-ing terrible now even Lesnar gonna say he lost cause of this, FYL Overeem and **** our lifes MMA fan and f-u nevada just cause...
I don't know who is being quoted with this "higher than normal" stuff, but that's a bit of an understatement! He failed his drug test big time. Normal range is 1:1 - 4:1. Overeem tested in excess of 10:1!! You don't reach those levels without some sort of external usage. Fight is off for sure.
That being said, does Dana drop him like he did King Mo or does he stay on Overeem's nut sack as if he were Arianny at ufc 141 weigh-ins?
Actually when Floyd Landis was "caught" after stage 17 of the Tour de France he was 11:1. Interstingly his testosterone level was normal. The 11:1 refers to the ratio of Testosterone to Epitestosterone. So Landis argued that because his Testosterone level was normal and EpiT was LOW this test falsely labelled him a cheater.
Interestingly later it proved to be a moot point that the actual Testosterone level was normal becasue an artificial testosterone was found in his blood. He later admitted to "doping" but continued to deny ever using Testosterone.
You see, I'm kind of an expert on this.
When you have this much riding on the line it's just not worth it. This will undo all that he has achieved in the last 5 years.
Take these cats to school Chael! Tell them how Silva is thinking about roiding up just to stay competetative with you this time around!
He wants his belt back by the way...
Depends if Reem gets on twitter and finishes himself off, wouldnt you say?
Quick Dana!! Let Brock back in , like you did Brandon Vera...NOT!!!
been waiting for this fight for so long....
Lets keep it real....is someone surprised?
My friend was when he found his wife in bed with his secretary.
So was my wife, when she found herself and my lady secretary in my bed.
I hope he took pictures. Probably as close as he'll get to a two girl show! Wow! Poor dude.... Why didn't he just dive right in the middle and have them show him a thing or four!
mmm the fight is a loong time away still, if he stops taking his t-supplements there's like a 98% chance his levels will be back to normal on fight week, this isn't the olympics i didn't even know this wasn't allowed and am quite surprised that the other 5 don't supplement too
It's perfectly legal to use TRT, but only if it is used to bring your levels up to normal, not 2.5X higher then normal. This means it is illegal to "cycle" TRT to have dramatically highter levels between fights, but normal levels at fight time, making what he did illegal whether his levels come down for fight time or not. His levels are about half of what Sonnen's were when he got popped, but still well out of the admissible range.
"not speaking about the fact that not so many fighters, including Cain Velasquez and Frank Mir, would agree to face JDS on short notice."
No idea why you would say this? Seeing how there is no evidence to say that nobody would want to fight JDS on short notice, even though JDS would be fighting them on short notice too....
But anyways, Frank Mir already said he would be excited to fight JDS in place of Overeem. And Im sure Velasquez would love to fight JDS too.
(You should give fighters more credit Anton!) shame on you
Anton brings up a valid point. There are several fighters who would likely still take the fight, just to have a title shot, but I doubt any of them will really look forward to meeting JDS on short notice. The spot will likely get filled, but don't assume that the fighter will feel like they are prepared to their satisfaction to face some of the most devastating hands in HW history. The truth probably lies somewhere between what you and Anton said.
I think that the point is that JDS would have a full camp in, where as the other fighters that would not have been fighting on that card would be a bit out of shape. That being said, you throw a fight in front of a fighter they might turn it down, turn down a title shot and you are nuts.
All those cats are already on the card. I agree with LongStrokes that any of them would take it. In my opinion, Mir is definitely the #3 heavyweight in the world and deserves the shot if Reem is out (or if Dana strangles him - whichever comes first).
Accidently hit funny...sharp tho
Since day one I've been skeptical that Reem could make it through the random tests the commission detailed..the last thread where they were tested, I said we'll see if he gets through. I know people who body build and some are huge. I know what someone looks like thats chemically advantaged. No-one bulks up as fast as Reem did with those characteristics. Ive bit my tongue long enough about Reem, he gave me the reason. Reem got his ass kicked on a regular basis at LHW when he was thin, he gets big and all of a sudden hes the most skilled in the world BST!
Daammnnn I wanted to see JDS KO his azz anyways.
Say it isn't so REEM!
So disappointing..........
If u believed him for a second....u were a moron to begin with
dis·ap·point·ing /ˌdisəˈpointiNG/Adjective: Failing to fulfill someone's hopes or expectations.
If you hoped or expected to hear overeem would pass a random drug test=moron
Ok...maybe not a moron....but completely ignorant....YES!
he is false REEM!!
Nobody has said Reem is out for sure. He still has a chance to save himself, if there is an adequate explanation. I doubt it, but it is possible this fight may still happen.
A average male has 1 to 1 test to ep. An above average male has 4 to 1. Reem had over 10 to 1.
Wont really be room for an "adequate" explanation...there isnt one. Small chance im wrong...but i sure cant think of one.
I agree with you. It will probably not happen, but there is still a small chance.. The truth is, I really wanted to see this fight so I'm trying to hang on to any thread of a chance there is.
F#CK NO! I NEED TO SEE THIS FIGHT!
The real story here is that he didn't really murder all those horses he claimed he was eating.
you have to give him at least 80 no contests there!!
wait one second lemme go put on my surprise face. -___-
WTF! hope the fight still goes down
Santa claus aint real....and this fight aint happening...u realize a failed test was the sole cause that a whole fighting promotion went out of business? Everyone wanted to watch this, but we wont...i wanted to see JDS KO the f@#$ out of overeem for his lies...but i wont...let me paraphrase one of reems statements, "thousands of horses have fell victim to the ream"...i dont think the dumbbass realizes that's MILLIONS OF POUNDS OF MEAT....highly unlikely and impossible sir. What american would prove him wrong by trying the same feat? O ya, its illegal in the USA to eat horse...nice ploy...but im proud of the athletic commission :D i couldnt stand listening to overeems bullshit for years...
then thousands of no contests for him!!!
Lmfao!
To everyone saying "I hope this gets worked out soon" or anyone whom still wants to see the fight. Why? You would only be enabling and sending the message that you don't care or it's okay to half-a** while everyone else works for what they get. He got to where he was, obviously, by (cheating). What a disgrace if you have to use PEDS. Put in the work people.
What a complete idiot. Scrap this fight, make mir vs cane the main event and number one contender for JDS. Overeem you are a juicde up animal and the biggest disapointment ever hyped in UFC.
Why do fighters still believe that they can get away with stuff like this? How many fighters in the last few years has been busted? Sometimes you just have to shake your head and wonder why.
Fighters still think they can get away with it....simply because they almost always do. There are too many ways to get away with it, the athletic commission makes it easy. If they wanted to make it more difficult..they definitely could, but they dont.
You think cyborg...she just barely started using? Good chance its been since she started carrying sooo much more muscle than a normal female. Testosterone will change a feature or two....after years...only now she gets caught. That should be evidence enough how much of a joke testing is. Overeem barely gets caught now? They need to do something about this shit before it gets like baseball and football where our expectations get set on these athletes with steroids and thats the only way to sell PPV's...if the athletic commission wants to seriously fix this shit...make me in charge...there wont be any more steroid pos athletes in mma...only more skilled ones.
OMG I cant believe this!
Forget the commission....
Lets ring Kimbo slice and his homeboys and see if we can get a backyard brawl between juice monkey andjnr dos Santos.
If this is true, holy shit what a dumb ass ! ruin a major promotion, get banned, and piss off fans completely...Everyone was holding out for this fight....
where u at Allistair ? Your scared homie !
Homie's been scared for years with all that roid use....diaz is shakin his head
Let's get JDS's levels up to the Reem's levels by fight night and let the juice do the talking! Would Overeem still fight JDS if he knew that Junior was doing it to?
Lmfao! Reem wouldnt...he might just die if JDS was on it....shit...JDS woulda K the f@#$ O'd even roy's indestructable a$$