no no no no no. brock would dismantle carwin in a flash i know it. carwin has some of the worst cardio in the UFC i mean he look tired as soon as he steps in the cage ffs.. carwin is a good guy with massive power in both hands i know that. but right after brock ****ed mir up every1 on this site was like yea hes a ****ing beast!!! he ****ed him up hes gunna be champ for years. and then he takes ill and is out for a while and now every1 changes there choon... sry to all the carwin fans but your all just blowing him out of proportion after 2 fights in the UFC? but if carwin beats mir i swear ill punch myself in the face 5 times for making myself look a twat but i dont see that happening tbh.
lesnar is still the better wrestler and prob has better cardio. carwin has insane ko power tho. but lesnar has great power in his hands too he just need to train more in that area
Still hating on lesnar, get over it franky, we all have, just man up and accept defeat. So in conclusion you have suddenly mastered the art of ground and pound defence in a matter of months coupled with the fact that you think carwin is a better opponent, yes that makes sense..
uh he tko randy he shouldnt of done those hammerfists and just throw bombs and then it would of been a ko and that one punch to heath sent him flying backwards...that takes alot of power and he ko mir im not even a lesnar fan or a mir hater its just facts
Before someone else types it let me dismantle it. Lesner didn't KO Couture, he stunned him and then let loose with the gnp. Couture actually looked like he was fighting to get through it when the fight was stopped. I'm not saying it was a bad stoppage; even if he somehow toughed through it and pulled out a W, Randy would have gotten some brain damage had the fight continued. Carwin on the other hand lays guys out; eyes in the back of their heads like Rashad Evens, KTFO.
Randy did not look like he was getting through it. He took 37 gnp hits and he didn't block a single one but I agree that Lesnar does not have the one-punch KO power that Carwin has.
You are correct that he didn't block many of the punches but he was making a conscious effort to get a hold of Lesner in order to apply leverage. In other words, he was not unconscious.
If I were MIr, I would seriously practice hard knees & front kicks and make Brock pay everytime he got close and swing like mad for a KO.
That 2nd fight, we saw Mir go off hard on Brock for a second and Brock got rocked and took him down as fast as possible, he has to learn to control a bull & when to strike. He can win that match if it happens.
The Carwin fight will let us know where we stand .If he beats Carwin impressively, I think he'll be the one.
That was the problem in the second fight. I believe second round, Brock had Mir up against the cage and Mir goes for a knee. Which against Brock = instant takedown.
If i was Mir, I would keep my feet firmly planted on the ground and try and box with Lesnar. Cause lesnar sure as hell aint a boxer by any stretch of the imagination.
He got beat every minute of that fight and probably on his way to getting stopped but that dumb f-- of a ref halted the action and took a point away from brock. Tell me he did not get his a-- kicked that fight even though he got the knee bar at the end?
I am not a MIr hater, I am actully a Mir fan but common, dude talks out of his a-- most of the time lately.
How you figure? Everybody that has fought Carwin has been very weak at boxing and have paid the consequences by dropping their hands coming in. Do you think Brock would do that> He is a much more intelligent fighter than Gonzaga wouldn’t you agree?
have to disagree im afraid, lesnars the bigger threat in my eyes. He has the power to drop people, then once they are down they are going to get ****ed up by his gnp. Carwin will stand on his feet and box, fair enough he has one punch power but look at the gonzaga fight in which he was getting pumped, then out of the blue lands a ko punch. IMO lesnar is a much more dangerous fighter, mir is just saying this so when he wins everyone will think he can take brock, but he cant.
Lesnar made Frank Mir look like Rocky Dennis, crushed Heath Herring's orbital bone in the first punch punch of the fight, and he dropped and finished Randy Couture... He has KO power, and he is faster and stronger than Carwin. Once Lesnar gets 3 or 4 more fights down, he will be unbeatable, and Mir knows this, Mir just wants to downplay his loss to a WWE superstar and get a rubber match while Lesnar is still vulnerable, END OF STORY.
Brock's fans are the ultimate "nut lovers". Lesnar is not even on the same pedestal as JDS(11 wins), Cain(8wins undefeated), Mir( 13 wins), Carwin(11 wins undefeated), and Fedor(considered undefeated with 31wins). How can you put Brock Lesnar so high? Is it bc he won 3 fights? or bc he won Randy lol? or is it bc he was on WWE? Even Retards can tell by looking at these numbers, but we are talking about WWE fans, so i understand, they think wrestling is real. Lesnar got a chance to fight for the title because he draws $$$, not bc he is good. I like Brock, but he needs to knock down 3 names mentioned above to be the best.
Who has Carwin beaten? Gonzaga? Wow! Who has Dos Santos beaten? Gilbert Yvel? Now Gonzaga? I would hold beating Couture as a bigger milestone then beating Gilbert Yvel...
Let's take Mir. Do you know before he fought Big Nog for the interim belt, here were his last 3 fights.
Lesnar (1st fight) - A Win, Although we all know the story behind this one.
Antoni Hardonk - A Win. But who gives a shit. Pat Barry beat him ffs.
Brandon Vera - A loss. Vera TKO'd mir in the first round.
I honestly don't know why everyone hugs on Mir's nuts. He has beaten nobodies his whole life, with the sole exception of Nog, and possible Tim Sylvia.
wow wow now, how did santos name get brought up here, u obvious dont know who gilbert yvel is or u wouldnt of said that.quit hating on mir hes one of the best heavyweights in the world check out his high lights and yvels too u ignorant ****
wow wow now how did santos name get brought up here,and u obvious dont know who gilbert yvel is or u wouldnt \?\
the reason im a big fan of brock and think he is the best is because he is the ufc heavyweight champ with ONLY 5 PRO FIGHTS to his name, thats the only mma experience he has. Do you know how crazy that is? The man is an athlete and a wrecking machine and it would be good if you could all stop hating on him for while. You wouldnt be saying all this if he didnt have the wwe background......GET A GRIP!
I think Brock lovers are frail little guys who worship his size & envy his masculinity haha
Did I type that outloud ? I want to see Brock get jaw tested real good see if he gives up early. They guy just hasnt been really hit hard yet, Im curious to see the outcome.
I don't give two crap sundays about Brock being in the WWE. I dislike him because he is one dimensional and an absolute A-Hole. The fact of the matter is he got lucky against Randy. He was getting owned in that fight until he got in that lucky, swinging for the fence punch and if Randy could have kept it together long enough for a rematch he would have beaten Brock in the rematch because he has more that one trick and is the better wrestler (as that fight highlighted). Brock even feels like he still has something to prove against Randy. That's why he was begging Dana for a rematch before Couture V Noguiera. Lesner has one or two fights left as champion tops and sickness has nothing to do with it.
haha we will wait and see then. But brocks not giving that title up anytime soon. He may be one dimensional but his wrestling is great, and with the power he has it makes his standup dangerous as well. He touches people and the go down. just like the herring fight, and the randy fight, and the 1st mir fight.
Brock actually throws some brutal leg-kicks, check out the second Mir fight, tagged him a few times. His vertical leap is only a couple inches less than Michael Jordan's, you don't get that, lugging that kind of weight in to the air, with weak legs.
"Carwin's also capable of knocking someone out, we haven't seen that with Lesnar", you mean... Except when you went to sleep Frank? When Randy went to sleep? The only reason Heath didn't go to sleep is because he's made of steel. That first punch that sent Heath flying, literally broke Heath's face. Fractures.
Seriously?... I know Randy said that the biggest problem he had with Lesnar was his reach. He called it Brock's "go-go gadget arms". Look at that fight with Heath, that first shot that broke Heath's skull, it was a perfectly chamber right, with perfect form, and it came from about a mile and a half away. Most other fighters would have been KO'd right there.
I looked it up. Brock has 82", Shane has 80". Even Stefan Struve only has 1 inch of reach on Brock. Really only a couple fighters in all of MMA have a longer reach than Lesnar. Jon Jones has something like 84".
Brock is a punkass. There were many other fighters that should have got a title fight before him. I understand that it is a good for business, but what about the fighter that have multiple UFC wins to their name. complete BS.
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He really is. Carwin can stand up and he can ground and pound
Brock is probably a bit bigger though
hes also has alot more fights then lesner
If that's the only difference, then Mir is in deep shit !!!
no no no no no. brock would dismantle carwin in a flash i know it. carwin has some of the worst cardio in the UFC i mean he look tired as soon as he steps in the cage ffs.. carwin is a good guy with massive power in both hands i know that. but right after brock ****ed mir up every1 on this site was like yea hes a ****ing beast!!! he ****ed him up hes gunna be champ for years. and then he takes ill and is out for a while and now every1 changes there choon... sry to all the carwin fans but your all just blowing him out of proportion after 2 fights in the UFC? but if carwin beats mir i swear ill punch myself in the face 5 times for making myself look a twat but i dont see that happening tbh.
ur on,carwin has fought three times in the ufc,u should hit urself now
LOL
if carwin is a better version prepare your funeral. because brock is your playground bully!
lesnar is still the better wrestler and prob has better cardio. carwin has insane ko power tho. but lesnar has great power in his hands too he just need to train more in that area
hes the same size 265 im not sure what he walks around at but brocks walks around 300 when hes not fighting
Still hating on lesnar, get over it franky, we all have, just man up and accept defeat. So in conclusion you have suddenly mastered the art of ground and pound defence in a matter of months coupled with the fact that you think carwin is a better opponent, yes that makes sense..
At least in this video he didn't hate on Brocky, he only said that "TO HIM" Carwin has the same tools as Brock and some more...
he said u havent seen brock knock anyone out tko them tho
uh he tko randy he shouldnt of done those hammerfists and just throw bombs and then it would of been a ko and that one punch to heath sent him flying backwards...that takes alot of power and he ko mir im not even a lesnar fan or a mir hater its just facts
Honestly I respect Mir, look at Irvin, he got beat bad by Silva and wanted no part of him again.
Frank got beat down and has that warrior instinct to avenge his loss, not being too scared to face him again & made some changes.
Mir haters here would be scared to get back in there with him so have a cup of STFU for once and watch the outcome.
real shit **** them haters
He comes across as a realistic and rather humble guy here...This doesn't diminish in any way his self-confidence, I believe...
Before someone else types it let me dismantle it. Lesner didn't KO Couture, he stunned him and then let loose with the gnp. Couture actually looked like he was fighting to get through it when the fight was stopped. I'm not saying it was a bad stoppage; even if he somehow toughed through it and pulled out a W, Randy would have gotten some brain damage had the fight continued. Carwin on the other hand lays guys out; eyes in the back of their heads like Rashad Evens, KTFO.
Randy did not look like he was getting through it. He took 37 gnp hits and he didn't block a single one but I agree that Lesnar does not have the one-punch KO power that Carwin has.
like everyone of his fights
You are correct that he didn't block many of the punches but he was making a conscious effort to get a hold of Lesner in order to apply leverage. In other words, he was not unconscious.
If I were MIr, I would seriously practice hard knees & front kicks and make Brock pay everytime he got close and swing like mad for a KO.
That 2nd fight, we saw Mir go off hard on Brock for a second and Brock got rocked and took him down as fast as possible, he has to learn to control a bull & when to strike. He can win that match if it happens.
The Carwin fight will let us know where we stand .If he beats Carwin impressively, I think he'll be the one.
That was the problem in the second fight. I believe second round, Brock had Mir up against the cage and Mir goes for a knee. Which against Brock = instant takedown.
If i was Mir, I would keep my feet firmly planted on the ground and try and box with Lesnar. Cause lesnar sure as hell aint a boxer by any stretch of the imagination.
Mir woke up with his head up his a-- this morning. Mir, you got your a-- kicked, handled, by Lesnar! Put up and shut up!
ur weak he beat him the first time **** what u heard...hater
He got beat every minute of that fight and probably on his way to getting stopped but that dumb f-- of a ref halted the action and took a point away from brock. Tell me he did not get his a-- kicked that fight even though he got the knee bar at the end?
I am not a MIr hater, I am actully a Mir fan but common, dude talks out of his a-- most of the time lately.
He is right thou, Carwin is more dangerous then Lesnar, have to be pretty dull not to see that.
How you figure? Everybody that has fought Carwin has been very weak at boxing and have paid the consequences by dropping their hands coming in. Do you think Brock would do that> He is a much more intelligent fighter than Gonzaga wouldn’t you agree?
i wud rather stand with carwin and get knocked out
then have brock on me the whole fight punchin me
have to disagree im afraid, lesnars the bigger threat in my eyes. He has the power to drop people, then once they are down they are going to get ****ed up by his gnp. Carwin will stand on his feet and box, fair enough he has one punch power but look at the gonzaga fight in which he was getting pumped, then out of the blue lands a ko punch. IMO lesnar is a much more dangerous fighter, mir is just saying this so when he wins everyone will think he can take brock, but he cant.
another weak vote fur you
Lesnar made Frank Mir look like Rocky Dennis, crushed Heath Herring's orbital bone in the first punch punch of the fight, and he dropped and finished Randy Couture... He has KO power, and he is faster and stronger than Carwin. Once Lesnar gets 3 or 4 more fights down, he will be unbeatable, and Mir knows this, Mir just wants to downplay his loss to a WWE superstar and get a rubber match while Lesnar is still vulnerable, END OF STORY.
lol, all you people saying carwin is better than brock are simply retards. loooooooooooooool
Go watch some more WWE d bag!
Brock's fans are the ultimate "nut lovers". Lesnar is not even on the same pedestal as JDS(11 wins), Cain(8wins undefeated), Mir( 13 wins), Carwin(11 wins undefeated), and Fedor(considered undefeated with 31wins). How can you put Brock Lesnar so high? Is it bc he won 3 fights? or bc he won Randy lol? or is it bc he was on WWE? Even Retards can tell by looking at these numbers, but we are talking about WWE fans, so i understand, they think wrestling is real. Lesnar got a chance to fight for the title because he draws $$$, not bc he is good. I like Brock, but he needs to knock down 3 names mentioned above to be the best.
Who has Carwin beaten? Gonzaga? Wow! Who has Dos Santos beaten? Gilbert Yvel? Now Gonzaga? I would hold beating Couture as a bigger milestone then beating Gilbert Yvel...
Let's take Mir. Do you know before he fought Big Nog for the interim belt, here were his last 3 fights.
Lesnar (1st fight) - A Win, Although we all know the story behind this one.
Antoni Hardonk - A Win. But who gives a shit. Pat Barry beat him ffs.
Brandon Vera - A loss. Vera TKO'd mir in the first round.
I honestly don't know why everyone hugs on Mir's nuts. He has beaten nobodies his whole life, with the sole exception of Nog, and possible Tim Sylvia.
wow wow now, how did santos name get brought up here, u obvious dont know who gilbert yvel is or u wouldnt of said that.quit hating on mir hes one of the best heavyweights in the world check out his high lights and yvels too u ignorant ****
wow wow now how did santos name get brought up here,and u obvious dont know who gilbert yvel is or u wouldnt \?\
the reason im a big fan of brock and think he is the best is because he is the ufc heavyweight champ with ONLY 5 PRO FIGHTS to his name, thats the only mma experience he has. Do you know how crazy that is? The man is an athlete and a wrecking machine and it would be good if you could all stop hating on him for while. You wouldnt be saying all this if he didnt have the wwe background......GET A GRIP!
I think Brock lovers are frail little guys who worship his size & envy his masculinity haha
Did I type that outloud ? I want to see Brock get jaw tested real good see if he gives up early. They guy just hasnt been really hit hard yet, Im curious to see the outcome.
I don't give two crap sundays about Brock being in the WWE. I dislike him because he is one dimensional and an absolute A-Hole. The fact of the matter is he got lucky against Randy. He was getting owned in that fight until he got in that lucky, swinging for the fence punch and if Randy could have kept it together long enough for a rematch he would have beaten Brock in the rematch because he has more that one trick and is the better wrestler (as that fight highlighted). Brock even feels like he still has something to prove against Randy. That's why he was begging Dana for a rematch before Couture V Noguiera. Lesner has one or two fights left as champion tops and sickness has nothing to do with it.
haha we will wait and see then. But brocks not giving that title up anytime soon. He may be one dimensional but his wrestling is great, and with the power he has it makes his standup dangerous as well. He touches people and the go down. just like the herring fight, and the randy fight, and the 1st mir fight.
Mir,Carwin,Brock are good HW fighter,but I like the best of the winer only ...
Carwin actually weighs the same as Brock it's just that Carwin has muscular legs, and well lets face it, Brocks got chicken legs.
Brock actually throws some brutal leg-kicks, check out the second Mir fight, tagged him a few times. His vertical leap is only a couple inches less than Michael Jordan's, you don't get that, lugging that kind of weight in to the air, with weak legs.
MJ... hahahahahahahahahah!
I hear ya dude... he can jump like Jordan... hahahahahahahahaha!
Jackass!
Carwin arms a little bit longer too
"Carwin's also capable of knocking someone out, we haven't seen that with Lesnar", you mean... Except when you went to sleep Frank? When Randy went to sleep? The only reason Heath didn't go to sleep is because he's made of steel. That first punch that sent Heath flying, literally broke Heath's face. Fractures.
Seriously?... I know Randy said that the biggest problem he had with Lesnar was his reach. He called it Brock's "go-go gadget arms". Look at that fight with Heath, that first shot that broke Heath's skull, it was a perfectly chamber right, with perfect form, and it came from about a mile and a half away. Most other fighters would have been KO'd right there.
I looked it up. Brock has 82", Shane has 80". Even Stefan Struve only has 1 inch of reach on Brock. Really only a couple fighters in all of MMA have a longer reach than Lesnar. Jon Jones has something like 84".
Brock is a punkass. There were many other fighters that should have got a title fight before him. I understand that it is a good for business, but what about the fighter that have multiple UFC wins to their name. complete BS.