Michael Bisping stakes his claim as #1 Contender, says Chael Sonnen blew his chance
Posted on October 13, 2011, 11:25 AM by Joey Santosus"Chael Sonnen had his chance, put on a great performance but lost. Got tapped out, got finished, and then after that he failed a steroids test. As far as I can see he had his chance and he blew it. I feel I deserve a shot. I have got to beat Miller, he is tough, I am not looking past him. [But] its me, I’m the contender. Belfort has just been beat, Yushin Okami has just been beat, Sonnen got beat. What are they going to do, are they all going to keep beating each other up and then having another shot at him? No, I’m the contender." - For more from Michael Bisping, visit FightersOnlyMagazine.com
Dana White believes he'd have to be pretty stupid not to book Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen II. And perhaps that's true. But, that doesn't make Sonnen the number-one contender. At least, not according to Michael Bisping, who insists that, instead, it is he who currently occupies that position within the Middleweight ranks.
Currently set to square off with opposing TUF 14 coach Jason "Mayhem" Miller on December 3rd, Bisping (22-3) initially accepted the coaching position under the premise that he'd serve opposite Sonnen himself on the reality series. However, due to ongoing issues with the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the Team Quest fighter was promptly replaced. Had the show went on as planned, Sonnen vs. Bisping was likely to name the next man in line to face "The Spider." So what do you think LowKick'ers? Is Chael Sonnen more deserving of a second crack at the 185-pound strap, or has process of elimination left "The Count" as the last man standing?
Photo: UFC fighter Michael Bisping, right, fights Dan Miller at UFC 114 on May 29, 2010 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Francis Specker


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Bisping doesnt realize that he has beaten no one worth getting a title shot. Or maybe he does.....Hes pretty much saying he deserves a title shot by default since Silva beat everyone else.
Hes the last kid to get picked, I am expecting Miller to beat though so whatever
Huh? Not even attempting to do MMA math, but Bisping would get his ass handed to him by Stan. In fact, I'd like to see that fight so that Stan can get that much closer to contention.
Bisping is so over-rated (mainly by himself) that it's frustrating. Just go back to the Hamel fight and start from there. I get so tired of his constant whining about his "shot." As soon as he loses he'll continue to make a case for a rematch.
I'm going to be chael's biggest supporter if idiotic fighters like Bisping start complaining about Chael's shot. Bisping is nowhere close of being ready to be in the cage nor the same room as Anderson Silva. He should focus on his fight and shut up cause i'm pretty sure he's going to loose to Mayhem.
'I'm the contender' I agree only if its a spitting contest.
haha bisping would get ****ed up so bad by anderson and all thoose other guys wud **** him up too
Yes Belfort Okami Sonnen got beat - but Bisping hasn't fought any of them. Maybe he should stop spitting at people in the octagon and change his silly fighting name. "The ****" - that doesn't make any sense to me.
.....???
Yeah opinions get weaked around here ?
Or they love the nickname ?
Yeah - and what a **** Hendo was for dropping a flying elbow to someone who was out cold. Great role model. NOT.
Oh .....I meant "Count" .....my bad
LOLLLLLLL that kid has serious delusions!
HAHAHA must be a lot of UK fans on here. I feel bad for ya not having a serious fighter to rally behind, but get serious!!! Bisping will NEVER take that belt.
Yes Mr Bisping, you are the true ****endor.
I say, if Bisping gets by Miller, let Stann bring him back down to earth. Or Vitor, I'm fine with either of them KO'n him.
i hope mayhem takes it but bisping is alot tougher than anyone is givinghim credit for ,
You're right, and i think bisping is super tough, but he has to face other top contenders first before i belief he can hold the title !
I never thought bisping will do so well overall, so he has proven me wrong a lot of times, but i think he's falling short for the top 5 ! imo.
If Bisping fought Anderson, it would make the Hendo knockout look like a 3rd grade schoolyard tussle.
In all seriousness, Bisping has never faced a top ranked competitor in the MW division, and he offers no skillset that could be a threat to Anderson anywhere. I love Yushin Okami, but he didn't provide any unique specialty and we all saw how Anderson dominated him. That would be the same case if Bisping fought Anderson.
And I'm not the biggest Anderson Silva fan out there, I just can't stand Bisping.
"In all seriousness, Bisping has never faced a top ranked competitor in the MW division..."
That's not true, he fought Henderson. Oh yeah, and then he got KTFO.
Objection withdrawn.
hahahahahaha
Bisping and the word contender will mix.
Dana should stop giving him cans to beat up , because he is getting delusional.
Good thing Mayhem is next for him, he will choke the shit out of him.
please pray mayhem shuts this big mouth brit up
I think it's funny how people just hate on Bisping because they either don't like him or they are Americans.
Either way you are still too ignorant to look past a image and see a figher's skills, all you guys seem to be able to do it for Chael easily enough.
I don't think Bisping could win against Silva but to say he is no where near contendership is plain stupid. Wait until he beats Miller easily but I can guarantee you will just say hsi next opponent will smash him anyway.
And if you're going to say I'm clinging to his ass like a dangleberry because I'm British then you are an idiot... I'm Scottish and the Scots are known for hating the English more thn anyone else does.
"I think it's funny how people just hate on Bisping because they either don't like him..."
That's not so much "funny" as it is "the definition of." I'd read the rest of what you wrote but I'm too afraid it'll just get even dumber.
Who has he beaten to even be considered top 10? Dan Miller? Dan was on a two fight losing streak when he fought Bisping. Now he's on the cusp of being cut from the UFC. Akiyama? Sure, he's exciting, but again, on a two fight losing streak when he fought Bisping. Now he's dropped down to the welterweight division to save his job. Jorge Rivera? The 39 year old who had just beaten the other 39 year old?
He's fought the who's who of the "voted least likely to succeed" list of middleweights. Yeah, this guy sure deserves his fight with the GOAT. Don't be as delusional as Bisping. I'll consider his status as "contender" when he beats the likes of Yushin Okami, Vitor Belfort, Mark Munoz, or Chael Sonnen.
yoshiro akiyamia chris leben denise kang and dan miler now when stann beat leben hes number 1 vitor belfort beats akiyamia hes number one again i mean when he beats some one he gets that any one he beats is a can its bullshit and he doenst even talk shit he just was stating facts when says that all them guys have had shot and lost
Glad to see someone speaking some sense to these idiots.
Keith, I'm from a British colony and I don't like him. And I admit he is really working hard and improving as a fighter. He is just so annoying. All he has to do is shut up and fight and I (and many others) would like him. Just Shut UP - thats all
Bruce, do you mean a former Brittish colony? If that is the case, then so am I! Along with half of the civilized world.
Except maybe the Irish. LOL. Just so you know Englishmen, I have met plenty of you who are great and have made my few stays in England very welcoming. Thanx.
Keith, don't kid yourself. I'd feel the same way if he fell from heaven on a broken wing. He's an ass. I actually liked the guy, a lot, when he first started out on TUF. As soon as he started showing his ass in the UFC I started to change my opinion of the guy.
SO, to your assertion that this is somehow Brittish-type hatred, I say BULLOKS!
You shouldn't generalize people, I'm American and in no way do I hate Bisping.
I only really dislike the guys that made you guys come over here to try and take our country and also dislike the Irish traitors throughout the years that fell at the feet of wealth over freedom. Most Brits I have talked to would not want to harm an Irishman these days.
Also, you guys keep bringing up his Hendo loss... wow he got knocked out by the biggest punch ever seen in MMA.
If you've already forgot Mr Emelianenko was rendered unconsious by a lesser strike not too long ago.
I'm sorry Keith. I can imagine how annoying the constant bring up of the Hendo loss must be. It's hard not to though. Quite honestly, he has such an annoying personality that it was funny to watch. It's not the loss either, it was being "Hendo'd" that is our favorite part.
I can't explain why Bisping is annoying and Sonnen is funny / entertaining but Bisping really needs some PR lessons or something. He always manage to come off like a wanker.
No Bruce, that's something you come off as.
I just think it's stupid that people use him getting Falconed Punched into next week by Henderson as an example to show he has no chin. If he threw that H-Bomb at someone and it connected that perfectly, he probably would have put out almost any fighter in the world, regardless of weight class. Honestly, using the incident to insult Bisping's chin is an insult to Dan Henderson's power.
The H-Bomb is a site indeed.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Bisping has never had a title shot. And yes he does have an impressive record but he's always been protected by the UFC and has always lost when he faces the top guys plus he always gets to fight in England. His biggest win was against Chris Leben. Wanderlei beat him, hendi beat him, Rashad beat him.
Give him his tite shot then we will all see that he doesn't belong their. Chael would destroy him and Anderson would just flat out embarass him.
the wanderlie and rashad fights were extremley close rashad beat him by split decisons
Fans say he's protected yet look at how many fans saying he is not a contender. Bisping beat guys that Sonnen and belfort beat to get their shots buit when it's Bisping all the hater childs come out of the woodwork don't they. I'm glad Bisping gets under your skins so much, ya'll need to grow the **** up.
We've yet to see a wrestler who was good enough to take Bisping down and hold him there while inflicting damage. Even Matt Hamill, who many feel "took Bisping down at will" and got "robbed of the decision" only managed to hold him down for 2:35 of their 15 minute fight, only landing 23 strikes the entire time, and only 3 of those were significant. That's about 1 strike every 7 seconds, or 1 every 50 seconds if you want one that actually matters. Rashad didn't do much better. Dennis Kang's a BJJ black belt and couldn't land anything or get a single submission attempt off, despite rocking Bisping to the ground with a solid hook, getting mount 3 times, and holding him down for 4 minutes. Wanderlei's a BJJ black belt and held him down for less than half a minute the whole fight.
If there is anything you can say that Bisping is REALLY good at, it's squirming out from under people trying to hold him down and hurt him. I'd like to see Sonnen get a shot at him. I honestly don't think he can hold Bisping down. And if he's forced to stand and trade, I don't think he has an answer for Bisping's striking. Sonnen couldn't "Hendo" a lightweight. The real question: If Bisping beat Sonnen, would people try to say he was a can as well?
why is he talking about being the no1 contender, he wont beat Miller
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Bisping. If he beats Mayhem, he should fight Chael Sonnen for #1 contendership. I'd love to see those two beat the snot outta each other.
BTW, Silva will destroy either of them.
Im sorry but neither Bisping or mayhem has fought anyone worthy of stepping in line for the title...
THEY NEED TO FIGHT TOP CONTENDERS.....
BTW...Silva will never be able to DESTROY Chael...He might beat him but never destro him....
And actually during the process Silva will get another ass whippin like no one has ever given him so far
I think that Anderson Silva being so dominant skews people's opinions of what qualifies as a "top contender" at middleweight.
Im surprised Bisping even wants Anderson, actually.
personally i'd love dana to give him a shot at the title, then i can have him stop embarrassing my country with his delusional thoughts. the guys a gatekeeper, needs to realize it already.
Well said. Patriotism shouldn't be part of mma. I base my opinion on facts and who i like as a person. I'm half american and half french and i dont like Lesnar and Kongo is far from my fav fighter. Those british weakers are delusional. God save the queen mo.
Lowkickdodger.
It's an interesting point you are begininng to make.
What should prevent patriotism being part of MMA?
How do you tie this position in with, "British weakers..."
Seems like a contradiction in terms, does it not??
@odesahitman, was just calling out the guys who were weaking all those comments cause they r british and take it personal. I am sure american bisping fans would weak too. I dont like Bisping cause of what he says and how he behaves not cause he's english. A lot of british fans force themselves to like Bisping cause he is british. Sad...lol
Fair comment.
Thanks for clearing that up.
/ Odesa
I would reverse your argument and say Americans don't like what Bisping says because he is an Englishman with a sarcastic attitude. Chael says stuff a million times more out of order than Bisping yet ya'll lap it up as fellow patriots.
You may think you have a valid point but that door swings both ways.
Wolf,
Let's talk about your version of delusional.
1. Isn't it delusional to say a person could embarass an entire country?
- Perhaps you could explain what had to happen for a person, Michael Bisping to embarass the entire United States.
- Then perhaps you could explain how you came to that conclusion.
- This brings us to the most pertinent question, given such wildly delusional conclusions, how do you know what Michael Bisping thinks?
- Can you explain how you can scientifically decide what Michael Bisping says and means and when he is simply promoting the UFC and himself in order to ascertain what the fight fans want?
Looking forward to your answers.
Thanks
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he represents a side of british culture thats very loud mouthed, sarcastic, and unintelligent with some of the comments he makes. granted everyone has their moments, but bisping has had a far too many moments for me not to grow tired of. i am embarrassed in how he is the main face of uk mma, yet behaves like the yob he is .the jorge rivera situation, the uk vs usa thing, and generally his arrogance annoys me. he shows a negative image of the uk IMO.
brad pickett, dan hardy, and john hathaway are guys who conduct themselves in a much better light than him, and deserve far more respect. brad pickett in particular.
and the answer to your pertinent question, i know because all MMA fighters have that mindset. you have no business being in the octagon if you don't want to be the champion. everyday you train, every drill, every punch, every submission etc is all for becoming the champion.
Mr Bad,
Because you're just a fan, and don't have any practical knowledge of fighting other fighters, it's impossible to speak with you on a level that you could comprehend.
On an intellectual level, it's really obvious that you don't have the intellect to verbally spar. You can probably tell that it's making sense for you to stay in your sandpit because you're probably the biggest boy in there.
There's a good lad.
Mr Bad,
I have many clues about you, it's been impossible for you not to communicate. Let's look at what I know about you,
1. You operate from stereotypical assumptions, e.g. psychologists are unlikely to have fight experience or be interested in fighting.
Q. What evidence have you used apart from your reaction?
- Operating from stereotyped assumptions seems to suggest you suffer with a level of social anxiety. You stick to what and who you know, fearing or hating things which aren't common place in your world.
- It's very likely that you have feel racial tension towards others, and you do your best to hide this, as you know on some level it's wrong.
- When you go out to eat, you eat the same thing and drink the same drink at known places, you tend to find a safe corner to sit, which gives you a sense of control.
- You have trouble maintaining relationships as you find it hard to trust, you've suffered a lot from verbal bullying as you've grown up and have reactions to people who you assume are in authority...
Seriously, take care of yourself and good luck.
So you mingle with women? On what chat room? Is your self esteem so low that you have to associate with women who would allow you to play them?
Your low self esteem is sad and I pity you.
Take care
but its obvious Im playing you like a bi^ch.
That make you hard or somethin'? Wierdo.
Michael Bisping stakes his claim as #1 Contender......
BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is just too goddamn funny!!!
Pricksping is just being he's usual self,a prick!
bisping is full of crap...
what the hell is he thinking?
he has fought nobody worth beans in the last year....No top contenders
Get in line..you chose to do TUF and you could of passed it up to fight a few times but of course somebody worth something...
somebody on Team Bisping please slap him to wake him up...
more reason to hate Bisping... he hasn't even fought any of those guys he mentioned, that fought for the title.. he should have to fight a former title contender at least, to be a No. 1 contender.. but Mayhem will beat his ass and hopefully Dana books Bis**** with Vitor..
No one wants to watch Michael "The Cvnt" get clowned by Anderson...or maybe they do lol. Either way, a waste of time.
Bisping: "Sonnen doesn't deserve another shot - I'm the toughest guy in the division"
Sonnen: "I've go chunks of guys tougher than you in my stool"
chael has a bigger chans than bisbing against silva because his a wrestler but that doesnt make chael the number 1 contender. his has a shitty ufc record with 5 Wins and 4 Losses.... that isnt remarkable...
and I think chael would loose against bisbing...
then you put steroids on top of that and chael should have to work his way up to the top like everybody else...
but this is about money, right Dana??
Yes.
Sorry Bisping--but you have to wait in line behind Sonnen.
The reason? One word: Kaching!
If AS wins against Sonnen, and this is a distinct possibility, then Vitor Belfort and/or Dan Henderson may get a shot.
After that--Silva would probably be pressured to move up in weight class if he wins.
So the no-account Count has only a very slim chance at a title shot. The only way he gets a shot is if he annoys enough fans--they will want to see him get KTFO'd by Silva before he moves up to LHW for a super fight.
So everyone just wants to see Silva finish his career fighting fighters he already beat before?
Sonnen or Belfort are not worthy of a shot right now. They had their chance and blew it. Put on a run of 3 fights against top 10 MWs and they warrant another crack, but one fight and another title shot is pathetic IMO.
Bisping is more worthy of a shot than Belfort or Sonnen but haters gonna hate.
People used to make a mockery of the HW division with fighters getting title shots based on a single win in the division. The MW is in danger of going the same way if it isn't careful.
Of course there's bad blood between Chael and Silva, but then there's bad blood between Chael and many fighters. Running your mouth off should not justify a title shot. For DW to see the $ signs and eagerness for this fight he turns the UFC from a sport into WWE a little bit more. Outsiders can look and rip it apart when we try and defend it as a sport when idiots like Sonnen can cheat and lose a title shot then open his mouth after only ONE win and get another.
There is a danger that being popular/unpopular is more important than being worthy, and is becoming the norm in the UFC - which is not sport. If Silva ends up fighting Sonnen and then Belfort again then the MW belt becomes worthless in Silva's hands.
Like I said they had a shot. To earn another they should have to win a FEW fights, not ONE. Unless of course the MW division is that pathetic people just want to see the same guys fed to Silva over and over.
Correct me if I am wrong but Wasn't Brian Stann the new number one contender going into the fight with Sonnen? That being said, any claim Bisping might think he has or what he may have been promised if Chael was a coach oppisite him other than Mayhem Miller is now a mute point.
I cannot stand Sonnen the promoter as his comments cross the line and in many cases blatently racist and just plain wrong however he proved that he is the man by effectivly dismantling Stann and as such deserving of the shot at silva.
Its no secret that certain fighters are good to certain event markets like Bisping is to events in the UK and Sam stout is to events in Canada. They are fan favorites and as such put butts in seats. Hardy is a perfect example based on his fan appeal though should have been cut probabaly.
Before bisping can claim anything he needs to fight and win against better opponents. He is a good but not great fighter, He does not possess the skill set to abuse Silva, Marquardt, or Stann the way Chael dominated in those fights. Based on opposition and performance alone vs ranked competition, Chael is much more deserving of the shot.
Bispings real problem from day one is that he feels entitled to things he has yet earned. Does he generate Money for the UFC? YES without a doubt but he needs to accept his role and place within the company and the division. He is a tool both figurativly and literally to serve a purpose to put on a competitve show, create buzz and sell tickets, but not be a UFC Champion.
You have got it back to front. Sonnen feels he is entitiled to something he hasn't earned. he loses a title shot, gets caught cheating on drugs, copmes back and beats what was, perhaps, an overrated Stann and immediately thinks he is entitled to call out Silva.
Bisping is making the point there's other fighters (himself included) that have never had a shot, have better records and are not 1-2 in their last tow fights like Sonnen is.
Yes, Sonnen's style is Silva's kryptonite, no doubt about it but imagine if Bisping had come out and called Silva out like that. The haters would have come in their pants and Bisping would be the most hated fighter on the planet (In America only though) yet Sonnen does it and many fans agree with him.
There is a definate xenophobic edge to some fans persuasion of likes and dislikes of certain fighters IMO and Bisping/Sonnen is a fine example.
Azzkika,
Your argument is clear and well reasoned. I'll be interested to see if anyone can answer your points without going off point.
/ Odesa
LOL dude should not be even talking about Silva... Prob should focus on Miller, nobody has ever had a easy fight with Jason Miller !
The only way Bisping can win is by using his jab and keeping distance for the decision. NO WAY IN HELL WILL HE FINISH MILLER ! ! !
ok first off, all these chael fans need to re think..
chaels last fight was stann. b4 that it was silva. you must think of a mma fighters point of view. they are waiting in line for the title shot.
chael lost to silva then fought once. and now he deservse a title shot?
i hate bispings guts, but he has a point.
just because your white (american) you deserve a title shot right away when you defeat one person? like brock lesner?
these guys need to understand that chael needs to beat at least 2 more guys to get another title shot.
like brian stann, hes not even in a level as chael or any good middle weight.
cheal should fight winner of mayhem and bisping. then decide
but i would love to see chael vs silva..
Its not about race it's about popularity. About who is going to rake in the most cash.
Isn't Overeem going to fight Lesnar and winner get's a title shot for the Heavyweight belt?
For all you haters saying "Who has he beat to deserve it?", ask the same question of belfort. Who exactly had he beat at MW to deserve a crack? From what I can see Bisping has a far better resume in MMA than either Sonnen or Belfort, but I guess haters will only believe what they want to.
I can't believe how many stupid so called MMA fans there are out there reading the comments on this thread. Some of you have your heads so far up Sonnen's arse ya'll will choke as well the next time Silva slaps a triangle on him.
Sorry Azz, Chael isn't going to make the same mistake.. Chael beat him in all 4.5 rounds next time they meet Chael will take the belt if somebody else takes it 1st
I'd believe you, except that that marked the EIGHTH time Chael got submitted by Triangle.
I honestly would love to see Bisping vs Silva, it would be entertaining at the very least. They should have the fight at the O2 arena. I'd love to hear the crowds reaction to the winner and loser.
I don´t know who´s worse, this guy or Chael Sonnen... they should put them both in a cage till they literally kill each other.
bisping has a point seeing chael is a looser steriod user , but lets see bisping vs chael , pretty sure chael would kick his ass !!! chaels problem is he is an ahole but he is an amazing fighter
For all of those idiots deriding Bispings record, you were all happy enough for Stann to get a shot if he had beaten Chael. Fact is Bisping has a better record than either Chael or Stann but you haters gonna hate regardless.
Xenophobic gayturds disease is quite common across the pond it seems.
I say winner of miller bisping fightswinner of belfort vs sonnen for nummber one contendership