Michael Bisping: I haven't lost a fight since Dan Henderson

I guess Chael layed so hard on top of you that his insanity rubbed on to you...

That's actually pretty funny.

Is Bisping ****ing serious?

he got beat up by Wanderlei Silva

an old Wanderlei out of his Prime

and he still got beat by him



Wanderlei rock him in the 1st saved by the bell

then he had a choke and again save by the bell

and in the third he was out in the last second watch the fight again

and anyone with a brain can see his eyes roll back

and if not for the ref Wanderlei was going to get the KO

but still it was a TKO only that the bell sound.



and on the Chael Fight he did not do shit , yeah he land some

weak punches like always but Chael had a clean face

not even daze him , while Sonnen did the most significant

damage with the GnP in the 3rd.



Bisping is one dumb mother****er

i can't wait to see him get KO again

if Dana ever gives him a Top 10 fighter again

So much hate lol. Watch the Sonnen fight again bro. He actually controlled where the fight took place for the majority of rounds 1 and 2. Do you not recall Sonnen talking after the fight about how one of the shots landed by Bisping really rocked him? Mike landed more knees/ shots in the clinch and got the better of the overall stand up. Sonnen dominated round 3, but other than that Mike was able to stand up pretty much straight away.... As far as the Wandy fight, I think Mike is slightly off key with his analysis there.... Still is the hatred necessary lol

Bisping last win was Mayhem Miller

get the **** outta here wanker!

lets see...



Bisping calls Dana after his lost to Chael and asks "where does this leave me in terms of the title"? WHAT ARE YOU ASKING? FAVORS?

The anytime you lose a fight Bisping, it leaves you back in line where ever you fit, you idiot.



what kind of crackhead, pipe smoking dope asks that kind of question.

Unfortunately Dana should have given you the plack he has posted in the hallway "DONT LEAVE IT UP TO THE JUDGES" .....a loss is a loss....you should of said "I havent gotten my ass knocked out since Henderson"

I would give Bisping the Sonnen fight, if he takes back the Hammil one and admit he lost.

Wow, hasn't anyone ever told you that screaming and swearing way too much about a person you don't even know might make you sound like a hater with no life ? Go get some help about that anger of yours, or go away and don't ever reproduce.

Bisping is such a retard.



He should be taking decision losses instead of reminding everyone of the falcon punch he ate against Henderson.



At least admit when you lose instead of trying to defend every loss.

Agreed. For a Man's sport, there sure a lot of babies in it.

@JoeFaceHood I wish I could sharp this comment ten times.

At the rate he's going he'll soon claim that the Hendo fight was stopped too early.

I believe it was.

I don't believe Bisping has beaten a single opponent who was also in title contention at the time they fought. If you want to establish yourself as the top contender surely you need to beat someone else who's also at the top of the division. And no, he did not beat Sonnen as much as he'd like to claim otherwise.

he beat Sonnen ...hands down he was robbed so the (superfight ) could take place between Silva and Sonnen.

Apart from Chael Sonnen you are right.

The word 'robbery' gets thrown around way too much. A robbery would be something like Phan-Garcia 1, where Phan completely dominated the fight and still lost the decision. Bisping-Sonnen was a close fight (which in my opinion Sonnen edged, barely) which could have gone either way. No way was that a 'robbery' so stop parroting Bisping's complaints.

When more people thought he lost... he didn't get robbed.

@Evan



Which people are you referring to? I hate missing out on facts, please let me know which survey you reviewed which helps you be so certain -also, please state specifically how their opinion is more valid than Dana White.



Cool if you choose to rubbish Dana's opinion, but to do that you will need a better qualified opinion and be able to support it.



Can you back yourself up??? Let's see.

Odesahitman:



Google is the back up. Look up PBP scoring of Bisping vs. Sonnen, the event itself, or UFC and follow the breadcrumbs. (Since it appears you don't know how to search the internet all you do is type in www . google . com with no spaces than use the search function to type in anything I wrote above).



Off the top of my head more had Sonnen winning. I am not sure of the amount but it was clear. "Just as I said when more people thought he lost..."



Now, let me pick apart whay you wrote:



"Which people are you referring to?"



The people who run the media for MMA. The judges involved. The biggest personalities of the UFC (see godsofwararise's comment below).



"-also, please state specifically how their opinion is more valid than Dana White."



Please state the place where Dana was quoted in this article. Michael Bisping is quoting a conversation he supposedly had with Dana White. Although, the people involved would not be anymore qualified per se than Dana. However, their opinions would be just as valid.



"Cool if you choose to rubbish Dana's opinion,"



Oh I did? Where was that in the 47 characters I posted? Where I was attempting to "rubbish" Dana? A man who only was brought up in this article and not quoted?



"Can you back yourself up??? Let's see."



Clearly, I can.



You attempt things like this every once in a while (call me out for something I write about or make a short comment). It never works, and you always come out completely outclassed. Just an FYI, here is a quote from Albert Einstein: Insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.





Think before you post next time.

@Evan,



I actually like a lot of your posts... and it seems like you have felt victimized by my comments, and as a result, tried to charachterize me as stupid... and resultantly you have done your best to "outclass" me.



Lets look at the credibility of your position,

PBP Scoring is not a truly accurate measure of how the fight really went.



"Off the top of your head" - I'm sorry but using your dandruff as a case on which to build an argument isn't credible.



You say, "the people who run the media for mma" - therefore you have been able to,

1. Cover the opinions of "the people who run mma" in every town, city, state and country where there are people who are involved with mma.

- This is exactly the point I was taking on, you made a statement as though it was scientific fact, but really your experience of fact was limited by the sources which you accessed.

- I don't claim authentic ownership of the truth - but this is exactly what you are doing... Your assessment of lack of intelligence on my part is actually not such a smart position to take... consequently because the basis of your argument is fundementally flawed I don't need to argue the rest.



As you have seen below, I agree with Godsofwarise statement, I was wrong to charachterize myself... I too can make mistakes and therefore Evan, I forgive you for yours.

"and resultantly you have done your best to "outclass" me."



I haven't done my best. My best would have been to post multiple polls on the subject from Sherdog or other sites like I have from other pages (which also showed that more people thought Chael won). I was half-assing it, and I still outclassed you. I never characterized you as stupid either (yet another attempt to add a different level to a conversation that never happened by you). My post simply drowned out your logic and opinion on the subject with better information.



"Lets look at the credibility of your position,

PBP Scoring is not a truly accurate measure of how the fight really went."



And that's because why, if doesn't fit your position on this subject? No seperate PBP's by different media outlets (people that cover MMA on a day to day basis usually with years of experience) is a perfectly reasonable way to go over scoring of a close fight. They come from different backgrounds, locations, experience levels, and most importantly subjective points of view. There really is no better way besides polling every single person who watched the fight, than to take seperate accounts of the fight as it was actually happening from people who score them on an event by event basis.



"Off the top of your head" - I'm sorry but using your dandruff as a case on which to build an argument isn't credible. "



Here is where your attempts at a subtle insult show through that you are fighting a losing battle. It's sad because you just don't realize that I'm a lot better at this than you. Your position (and attempt at leaving that position because enough information has been presented in this and other threads) is no where near good enough to challenge me in this circumstance. So you retreat to an insult about dandruff because the points of emphasis in your logic are running dry. No matter though, I don't take it to heart.



"1. Cover the opinions of "the people who run mma" in every town, city, state and country where there are people who are involved with mma."



No not every town and city. Just most the ones from the people that follow MMA more than anybody else because of their profession.



"- This is exactly the point I was taking on, you made a statement as though it was scientific fact, but really your experience of fact was limited by the sources which you accessed."



My experience of the truth was limited by energy I wished to spend on the subject of simply proving the point of a poll existing on the subject. I wished to let you find it yourself (again here's where google will help), as you would have seen for yourself that when close to 2200 people were counted by Sherdog 50% thought Chael won. Bisping got 40%, and 10 %n had it a draw. I didn't wish to post this as I chose to focus on your misinterpretations of my original post when it relates to the original statement by Bisping (and how Dana's opinions were never expressed first hand).



"- I don't claim authentic ownership of the truth - but this is exactly what you are doing..."



I am. Because the biggest poll done on the subject had Sonnen winning more (the one done on our site last night that was taken down already also had Sonnen winning more), and scoring from around the internet had Sonnen winning more. Fight metric had Sonnen winning the fight. The judges had Sonnen besting Bisping. It's every single avenue you want to look at, more than not people had Sonnen winning.



"Your assessment of lack of intelligence on my part is actually not such a smart position to take... "



I apologize if it hurts your feelings, but in this instance its a valid position to take. You chose to not only call me out on a position that was never in question (me "rubbishing" Dana White's opinion), but you also chose to put the onus of proof on me after placing me in an disagreement that never existed. When it would have been quite easy to search it yourself and save us all this trouble.



I don't need, care, or want forgiveness from you as I did nothing wrong. I simply outwitted you in a disagreement when there was actual evidence existing to nullify the need for said disagreement in the first place. So, I will leave you with a similar end thought to what I posted the first time:



Think, and do your own research, before posting next time.

@Evan,



That was/ is a brilliant post... I actually believe that you have made a stronger argument than me... Seriously, well done!!!



Cheers

/O

Thank you very much, and cheers to you to sir.

@highlife,



I agree Bisping did beat Sonnen. The only muppets who would disagree are those who are graduate fans from WWE/ no genuine fight experience whatsoever.



Oh, and to add balance to this statement, Bisping did not beat Wanderlei.

@odesahitman; After the fight between Besping and Sonnen, Joe Rogan said on his podcast that he had Sonnen narrowly winning two rounds with one round clearly won by Bisping, making it 29-28 for Sonnen. Would you suggest he's a graduate fan from WWE too? Stop labelling people with these nonsense tags just because you might disagree on the outcome of a very close fight.

Rogan must have had a spliff before the fight.

@Godsofwarise,



Excellent comment - You're absolutely right.



Thanks for the feedback.

That would make two of us then! :)

didnt Wanderlei almost finish him 3 times in their fight?

yea, we can only presume he got hit hard enough he didnt remember the fight with Wandi. Saved by the bell twice in that fight, first was choke, 2nd save was almost KO'd. It seems the Dan Henderson fight left his eggs scrambled permanently.

@Vidaros,



You're right, no way Bisping won that fight.

LOL. he got robbed of the wanderlei fight? what a dumbass, so if he got robbed of the wanderlei fight then hammil got robbed in his fight with bisping with the favoratism showing brit judges?

actually the only British judge scored it for Hamill

This is exactly why he lost me as a fan- the Hammil fight and how he handled it. He basically beat his chest after the fight and suggested Hammil go back to wrestling. First class douche.

IMO he looked like shit against Miller. He needs to STFU and start winning in stellar fashion to get his shot!

It's hard for me defend Bisping like I usually would when he talks bull like this. I'm sure he'll get a shot one day, the UFC do favor him a little.

IMO he beat Chael but anyone saying it wasn't one of the closest fights in a long time is crazy.

Only guy in a long time to do so well against Chael in a decision so if you think Chael is that good then saying Bisping isn't doesn't make sense.

He hasn't been KTFO since Hendo that I will agree with.

if you remove my losses then i have not lost

Spitsping needs to sit down on his punches more and develop power but i think he is afraid of getting hit bc he knows his chin is not the best,; hence his run around bob and weave slappy punch style, I mean i think he could be a lot better. what say the low kickers?

Bisping has actually had some hard luck in close decisions most of the time. He lost close fights to Rashad Evans, Wanderlei Silva, and Chael Sonnen. He's also a close fight with Matt Hamill.



However, I believe every single one of those decisions is valid. I believe he lost to Wanderlei in what was one of the last great performances of the Axe Murderer's career. I believe he lost to Chael and Rashad clearly even though both were close. I also believe he beat Hamill no matter what a lot of people think.



The bottom line is he has two losses since fighting Dan, one to Chael, and one to Wanderlei.

He was robbed against Hendo too, the ref tripped him as he dodged the H-bomb, causing him to fall over and spontaneously loose consciousness.

The Wandy fight was in no way close.

Bottom line is, finish your fights or don't cry about it. Bisping didn't come close to finishing Wandi, not even once. 10 more seconds in 2 rounds Wandi would have finished Bisping. If you think Chael lost, your delusional or just bias. Thats an objective perspective no bias either way.

Just so you know Bisping finished his last 2 wins by TKO

I agree that he got robbed in the Sonnen fight but Wandy whooped that a$$.

How can you say he was robbed? Then in the same post say Wandi whooped his a s s ? I think that's my last reply towards you.

You clearly don't watch or understand MMA. In the Wandy fight he got out struck, out grappled and out wrestled. In the Sonnen the only area that was close was the wrestling. Bisping was far ahead on the feet and there was little if any grappling. I am glad I will not be subjected to your ludicrous responses.

That's all fun and all that your so passionate about both situations, but stats back none ot that up.



Bisping landed more on Wanderlei, and outwrestled him. He even had a few dominant positions on the ground. The only reason Silva won was because he rocked him a few times, and had the guillotine at the end of the second.



In the Chael fight Bisping was outstruck, and out-grappled. Chael slightly less on the feet, and much more on the ground. Bisping rocked him once, and stopped some of his takedowns in the second. However, any stat you want to look at Chael won rounds 1 and 3.



Either way both were extremely close, and nobody was robbed in either.

UMMM..... Yes you have lost there Mikey. You haven't beaten any one single quality opponent since ???? Or have you ever?



Oh yeah, you beat Rivera (laughs), and Dennis Kang (laughs harder), and then there was the Millers, 2 of them, Dan and Jason, both top 100 fighters........

Then there's the fight you lost to Hamill, but the judges handed to you to raise Britain's stock in the UFC.......

3 judges said you lost Bisping.

NO, No they didn't

Bisping and Chael basically both lost their fight.

But Anderson would have no trouble speed bagging the count so give him the shot it'll make good entertainment. At least he wont lay on Anderson throwing pillows like Chael.

If Bisping can take Chael down, I think he has pretty good odds of doing the same to Silva. When you figure that I don't think anyone's ever come close to submitting Bisping, and I don't think anyone's ever stayed under him for long without getting TKOed, I'd say his odds are better than most would care to admit. He'd just have to make sure his ego wouldn't make him stand with Anderson Silva.

Somebody needs to link Bisping to his fightmetric stats against Sonnen. Take your loss and move on, man. Or just keep complaining, I guess.

The Sonnen fight was close, but Bisping has no right to complain about anything going against him the UFC.



Not only did Bisping lose the against Hamill, but he was also the one who destroyed his shoulder while they were training together on TUF, in what I have always thought was calculated move to take out his competition.



Winning TUF was the biggest thing that ever happened to Spitsbing. Think how differently his career might have gone if he didn't, not to mention the affect it had on Hamill's career.

I agree with you Bisping, you deserve a title shot over some juiced up clown that you beat.

Bisping is there to keep the British fans interested and buying PPVs, as is Hardy (4 losses???should have been cut then). Neither will ever be champ.

This is why nobody likes bisping...he just talks too much shit.

I like Bisbing alot. He has lost a couple of close decisions. I would like to see him a main event 5 round fight! I believe he would be able to take it out of the judges hands then. I think he should get a title shot if he wins his next 2 fights. Maybe after 1 fight if its a top 3 opponent. Love him or hate him, hes a pretty good fighter.