Stop talking about yourself at the third person Brock please, come on...
Cain will expose you.
just like carwin did? and mir? or the master tactician randy couture?
If he keeps on gettin exposed, and more and more fighters figure out his weaknesses then why have we not seen anyone beat him lately????? I understand carwin "Exposed" his standup a little bit lately but he showed everyone else how easy it was to beat him than brock...just make it to the second round appearantly. Hes got more than just size on people, if ur a fighter in the UFC or any organizations you have to have some kind of skill. SOOOOooooo next excuse please!
Hey now show Carwin some respect. It's not just as easy as taking him to the 2nd round. For pretty much the whole round, he spent it punching Brock in the face.
Also just because you're in an organization doesn't automatically make you a great fighter. The fights you fight make you a great fighter. Brock's biggest advantage is his size and wrestling so YES a big thing about him is his size
If brock does lose....and thats a big IF...then i would like all of you to wave goodbye to the heavyweight division...Cause Brock is gonna destroy everybody!!!! Cause to me Cain and shane if he doesnt gas himself again are the only two guys that i believe actually give brock a problem!!! Think about this...if brock lesnar from Webster, South Dakota gets his ass beat by a mexican american....i THINK he may lose his mind and just kill everyone in his way!!!
If brock were the same "size" as a Randy Couture or a "Dos Santos", he'd be a nobody. He'd probably be getting tossed around and knocked out left and right.
just like carwin did? and mir? or the master tactician randy couture? first off brock beat randy when randy wasnt in his prime and borck had problems with randy in that fight it wasnt like brock dominated randy in that fight. carwin? poor cardio thats it. Mir? i belive he already beat brock once. im not saying you are wrong partyboy cuz brock did beat those guys but come on man cain is much better then all of those guys and he wont gas.
u do have a point, cos in each of his fights brock showed some weaknesses (couture was able to control him in the clinch for some of the fight, carwin did beat on him quite a bit and mir got that submission in their first fight) but all im tryin to say is that in each of those fights, his opponents were going out to 'expose' brock as a fake or sometin like that, but even doh brock was often in trouble, he always came out with the win (except mir obviuosly, but he avenged that)
i agree though that cain is really good (im not sure if hes as good as carwin but hes definitely up there-id like to see those two guys fight)
thats where ur wrong...his wrestling credentials are still there, if he was a LW hed be maynard, WW fitch or kos etc, its not his fault hes big, but hes also quite skilled
IF this... IF that... IF what ever... Brock is Brock... his size is part of who he is... you can't make a dumb comment like that... other MMA fighters trained for their skills... Heck... Brock trained his whole life to get the body and size that he has... if that's what he has as an advantage... why's there a problem with that??? How's that any different from other fighters training their whole life to be a black belt in BJJ or KB or boxing or wrestling (Brock has that as well).. it's pathetic people still try to hate on Brock... doesn't matter if he's not technical... there are always two types of fighters... technical ones... and ones who rely on raw power... go figure that one out... people just try to find reasons to hate him... and as long as he keeps winning... i have to say... those who are narrowed minded and think it's all about techniques and being a technical fighter...well i'm sorry to have to wake you up from your dreams... sometimes technique can't do anything against being hit by a train!
My thoughts exactly.
Youre making some big statements there. All those guys have taken down opponents their size and Brock has only faced one person his size and he could only take him down when his muscles were filled with lactic acid
But what if he was a small HW. Say 220 where the guy he was fighting was 280 in the cage with the skill of Frank, Randy, or Shane? No one is faulting him for being big. Its just a big part of why he can win in the UFC.
but did he beat them? yeah he did...brocks gotta work with what hes got, if randy was as big as brock then u can bet hed use his size to his advantage, but hes not so he uses strategy (very well)...brocks big so he uses it effectively, unlike guys like bovb sapp
Yes he did win but what you were saying is that brocks wrestling is better than Maynard, kos and etc... I said those were hugely speculative statements because the only guy who is brocks size he struggled to take down while all the other guys you mentioned haven't
all im saying that he has a top class wrestling, and that wouldnt change based on weight class...if he was a light weight he would still be a top class wrestler (for example like gray maynard) and i agree he struggled to take carwin down, probably cos carwin is a monster and he was afraid of getting tagged on the way in...dont forget carwin has serious wrestling credentials aswell, himself brock and cain are the top 3 wrestlers in the division, but brock and carwin clearly has a large size advantage which cant hurt when going for a takedown
I noticed that too. How big does your ego have to be to refer to yourself in the 3rd person?...
Who in the world are you responding to? Lmfao
I was surprised he didn't call himself "the Brock"
brock has already been exposed multiple times.. as for cain hes still untested because he hasn't fought any top names.
Dude ...NOG? Cain is the 1st guy to EVER officially KO NOG. Mir only TKOed him.
At least Cain can punch all Brock has is a size weight advantage for waterboy tackles without that he has to curl up like a kid getting whipped with a belt. LMAO
L...M...A...O...LMAO... you would have curled up too if Carwin was punching you. You would have been killed.
Also keep in mind, even though he did curl up, he is the only person to ever survive Carwin and also beat him. It is called survival. He must hit like son of a bitc.. but he still survived. Survival is not always pretty.
IMO Cain will keep it standing and pick Brock apart
I agree man and i just want to add a few things ;) Cain is going to beat brock. Cains heart is on a another level then anyone else. Brock is an ego and one ****y S.O.B. Cain he dosent trash talk in fact he only says good thing about hes opponents and he fights for hes family. Also cain have much more well rounded skillz then brock.
Hey, Has Brock trashed talked Cain. No. People seem to have the memories of a goldfish here. Here is a list. Mir- trashed brock first. Herring trashed first. Randy- no trash, and brock said many respectful things at the end of the fight. Mir again- we all know that one. Carwin- not much on both parts. So the bottom line is if your talk smack to Brock, he will do it right back to you. These are not fair statements towards him as a person.
yea he did on ths inteview i seen it says after his done with cain he is going to get a corone an a burito just for cais heritage. cain all the way
You must have missed his comments in this video and the 121 preview
I would hardly call that trash talking.
cain velasquez does not hit as hard as shane carwin
hilarious how people would agree with this 99% of the time, but if brock says it it must be bullshit...ah well, pressures on cain now to beat brock with all these advantages he magically has now but didnt before
i think it is very ignorant to say all brock is is size and strength... is that was the case..... butterbean zuluzihnio pudz and lashley would all be the best along with brock but they are not...
as for the fight.... wow its tough to call but im leaning towards brock finishing cain.... i think he will catch him with the herring straight right... we saw kongo do it i think brock will be losing the fight then catch him
Well the thing about butterbean zuluzihino and pudz is that they lack explosiveness because they're TOO big (and 2 of them fat). The difference between Lashley and Brock is their wrestling ability. Brock is a superior wrestler than Lashley (credential wise).
Brock doesn't just have size. He has wrestling to go along with it. So size is one of two biggest tools. So yes size his size is a big attribute of what has got him so far.
but then surely it is his athletisicm and not his size.... like jon jones is very expolosive... thats the athlete in him.... brock in my opinion would be just ad good at 240....
zuluzinho had a perfect record until he met fedor, then things changed. funnily enough quite a few fighters went do2nhill after getting owned by fedor.
Well he uses his size as well. If you recall Lesnar v Mir 2, he went chest to chest with Mir using his size to out-muscle him and making it so he could not move.
i guess i can agree to some extent... as i can see where you are coming from... but unless they bring in divsions at 220 and 240 no one can really moan... because if they really thought size was the key factor in deciding fights i do believe they would introduce a sixth division but it isnt a key factor..
Yeah that's true. The weight limit is 265 so he's not breaking any rules or being unfair in any way.
there are alot of ways this fight can go but i do really think brock is the better wrestler based mostly on their college careers. i know cain is a great wrestler but truthfully we havent really seen it. out wrestling the likes of kongo and rothwell dont really make the grade in my opinion. brock should be able to get it to the ground nullifying cains advantage on the feet and use his size and strength to his advantage. it is possible that cain might be the one exposed here
Im thinking, 2nd round choke again...............XD
Brock is going to crush little cain. He's bigger, stronger, faster, and his wrestling is far better. Cain doesn't stand a chance. Nice try beaners.
His wrestling isn't better Cain's stand up and cardio are much better than Brock's, Cain is going to expose the hell out of Brock.
And you are basing this on the many times Brock has gassed out in the later rounds? Oh wait this hasn't happened. Have the two of them done side by side comparison cardio tests using the same parameters? Sorry but your comments are only speculation as with most things when we compare fighters.
His wrestling is better, coupled with size/power/speed advantage, their wrestling doesn't compare.
I LIKE CAIN alot! i think cains boxing will be way better! but if lesnar lands i think he will rock cain quickly and after that brock would finish him! all stand up! lol! lesnar is very quick for a 280 lbs man! and power full! if cain ko s lesnar would not surprize me at all! he is that freakn good! cain that is!
I remember when is 16 when brock lost his wwf belt it was to a mexican this time the same thing is going to happen his going to lose to mexican again
shut up, that's wwf this is UFC and don't compare Eddie Guerrero to Cain Velasquez, what the **** is wrong with you?
But yes, Go Cain! XD
Brock will win even though I don't want him to. Ugh I hope by some freak mistake im wrong.
Cain New Champion soon....Brock is going to sleep..
Going to sleep how? KO? Submission? Narcolepsy?
Man i love Brock! He is not going to loose against Cain, thats for sure!
Brock could possibly overpower Cain in the first couple of rounds. If he can't though, I see Cain winning it in the later rounds.
Brock is a certified beast. Just watching the countdown makes me a little jealous. But... I've always rooted against Brock. Nothing like watching the smaller guy win. Let's go Cain.
Imo the Cain Brock fight is more interesting than the Brock Carwin rematch. I mean Carwin maybe deserves a rematch. But it still can happen. Meanwhile he should fill his gas tank a bit ;)
brock is the best hw in the worlds rite noww!!! he might not be technical but i gurantee you he will not lose to anyone for a long time the only persom who stands a chance is shane carwin even tho he already lost he is the only 1 i see having a chance