Jorge Rivera: Intentional illegal knee showed Bisping's true colors

Posted on February 27, 2011, 11:06 PM by Joey Santosus
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"That knee was deliberate, and I'll tell you exactly how I know this. I go to sweep him and he holds on to the fence. He holds on to the fence the whole time. And then, within 30 or 40 seconds of doing that, he knees me [illegally] in the head. I'm on all fours, he winds up and knees me in the head. Then he puts his hands up, walks over to my corner and says, 'He's the p-ssy.' Now if that wasn't deliberate, I don't know what the f-ck is.

"I was hurt, man. I was hurt. But the truth of it is, I knew that most of the people that were there, were there to watch this fight. I knew the hype was built up, they wanted to see it, and I didn't want it to end like that. It's just not in me to quit (...) I don't regret a thing I did. [Bisping] showed his true colors last night. That's all I've got to say about that. - For more from Jorge Rivera on his UFC 127 bout with Michael Bisping, visit MMAFighting.com

Just minutes into the UFC 127 co-main event, Michael Bisping landed an illegal knee that rocked Jorge Rivera as he emerged from the canvas.  Rather than stop the fight, the cageside officials deducted a point from the Brit and allowed Rivera to continue.  Though "El Conquistador" battled back into the second round, the end came after Bisping closed in on Rivera against the cage and unleashed a barrage of punches that lead to a TKO stoppage.

Following the bout, Bisping has been apologetic about his post fight antics, which included spitting at Rivera's corner, and insists that the illegal blow was simply a case of poor timing on his behalf.  And while the knee strike has become subject to debate in the time since, it appears Rivera, for one, isn't buying it.

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  • Rigo
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    Man i hope Bisping gets a top fighter in his next fight

    and gets KO again! because thats just wrong.



    bad timing ? how about bad intentions !

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  • Zadok83
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    So we actually do agree on something Rigo.

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  • Jesper
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    when they are well deserved. Its a fight to begin woth but throw in riveras mockery going on for weeks an all pity goes out the window.

    Rivera was faking just how bad the knee had hurt him i think, and then cracked mentally in the second round.

    Riveras a funny dude but mentally weak. Just like your comment!

    Reply 3 years ago
  • ck1
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    @rigo. i dont personally think it was intentional but only bisping knows that and ive stated before that knees like that have been done before in the ufc and will be done after this fight. It was riveras choice to continue so he cant moan about that and to be fair he dropped bisping in rd2 which was after the knee so it cant have affected him that much. Truth of the matter in MY VIEW is rivera never had the conditioning of bisping and he knew it, he tried to lure him into a brawl cos he had a good chance of dropping bisping, but that was his only chance. He made points before the fight that bisping likes to hit and run, whereas he finishes people and bisping lands the most power shots without dropping people. All this was done to try to lure bisping into a slug fest where rivera had the best chance of winning, but as soon as bisping got off the floor from riveras best punch and stepped up a gear rivera was finished so bitch all day long about the knee but that didnt change the course of the fight. I do however think the spitting was disgusting and he should be punished for it. And i also know that bisping is a top 10 middleweight but not good enough for the title. I just get bored of the same things always aimed at bisping.

    Reply 3 years ago
  • partyboy
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    i find it kinda hard to believe that it was intentional, given that bisping HAD to know hed be lucky to avoid disqualification if he did it, im no bisping fan but believe him when he says he just pulled the trigger too early, aldoh i suppose its impossible for anyone except bisping to know for sure

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  • WADM
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    he is gonna get Vitor Belfort xD, dats enough 2 shut him up

    Reply 3 years ago
  • Cronos
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    Funny...right when people were starting to like Bisping a little..

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  • ck1
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    @jesper. well said

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  • HollywoodKOs
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    Jorge was milking it for the ref and his adoring fans. He was hit with a weak knee that didn't stun him till the ref stopped it. He got what he deserved...

    Reply 3 years ago
  • JP86
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    God help anybody who tries to hype up a fight huh?? Nobody talk about the guy your fighting because if he does something illegal it will actually be deserved!!!!! JESUS HELP US ALL!!!!

    Reply 3 years ago
  • jsnwht
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    It is easy for you to sit on your couch and say Rivera faked being hurt. But lets see you get down and take a 100% full force, unexpected knee from Michael Bisbing flush on the face. Then you can say he faked it... dumb*ss.



    Those of us who wanted to see a fair fight between bisbing and rivera got robbed by bisbing's cheating. It was obvious for the rest of the fight that the knee slowed down Rivera. He should've stayed down and given Bisbing the DQ because Bisbing obviously did it on purpose.



    You act like there is no difference between pre-fight marketing (or mockery if you want to call it that) and illegal knees. There is a huge difference. Most cards have at least one manufactured "grudge match" on them to stir up the interest in the event. I've never seen someone "mistime" a knee when both of the other guy's knees were on the ground. I've seen fighters forget about the knee rules and let one go, but never claim to "mistime" it that badly. If one knee was down and Rivera was actually on the way up, it'd be different. Bisbing must think we're idiots for even saying he mis-timed it. In your case, he's right.

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  • Endo
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    @ Jesper. Finally, someone is talking some sense on here.

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  • Jesper
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    Did you sit in an octagon fighting while writing your comment? Your the dumbass for thinking rivera got stopped for physical reasons.



    Either way, this is my opinion. Thats why i wrote "i think" after stating rivera faked how hurt he was.



    If you look at the fight footage, rivera hesitates looking up at the refs feet. Only when he sees the ref moving in he grabs his head in "agony". He's a professional fighter and I bet he thinks your a ****ing Idiot for thinking he hasn't taken much harder shots in previous fights be that knees head kicks or whatever.



    Based on all the rivera fights Ive seen, if and when it doesnt go riveras way his mind lets up and he gives up but laying down covering up or tapping.

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  • Jesper
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    The job description isnt media bitch, its fighter. As soon as you take it upon yourself to make videos and songs about your opponent, it being for hype or hate, you gotta be prepared to deal with the consequences.

    Reply 3 years ago
  • JP86
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    you could have made that comment with out using the word bitch now couldnt you?? Or were you tryin to one up me on the name callin scale??

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  • Jesper
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    How old are you? why are you focusing on my swearing and not the argument I was making? And how much of a low life would you have to be to even call, me saying the word bitch, a one up???



    heres one for the road....Bitch!

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  • HunterB
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    your arguement basically states that it is ok to cheat if their are emotions involved. these guys are sport fighters, not some dirty street fighter from the gutter. Rivera was dazed and it effected the rest of the fight, to think otherwise is just ignorant and justifiying the pathetic actiing of doucheping

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  • JP86
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    2-0.....man you really are hurtin my feelings...do you do this to everybody that doesnt live at Neverland ranch??

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  • JP86
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    and im 23..dont see what that has to do with all this...i was just makin a statement that you could have jsut told me what you thought was wrong with my comment with out the word bitch which you seem to use just so you can feel...like the bigger man!!!

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  • Jesper
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    Its just that Ive never met a grown man that takes offence when the word bitch is used in a sentence and not as a direct insult.

    'i imagined you as one of Michael Jacksons kids playing on the ranch, especially after you mentioned it.

    yayyy wuiii thats ignoraaaant yayyyy.

    And since its become a somewhat of a tradition now ..... Bitch!

    Pack em up in little bitchcakes and bring them for the long road back fromm the ranch

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  • Jesper
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    This stuff happens in grudge matches. When Jackson K.O'd Wanderlei he hit him 3 times after his unconscious body had hit the ground. More recently when anderson silva submitted chael sonne after that huge beating he took he didnt let go of sonnen for 5-10 seconds after the ref had called it, out of mear frustration from all the trash talk, he was yelling and clearly frustrated.



    So you just keep living on your pink cloud. Its not reality, rules or no rules!

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  • Rory Kernaghan
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    I think with all the racist BS that Jorge was spouting b4 the fight, bisping probably lost his cool. So it was Jorge's fault really. shouldn't have made videos calling him a white bitch

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  • MMAMINDSET
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    JP86 "SHARP"s his own comments. i used to do that, until i realized i was being a douche by doing do. evolve JP86, experience maturity.

    Reply 3 years ago
  • JP86
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    haha....pissing contest on the internet...NICEEEE

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  • jackthedrinker89
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    yea that explains why he has more then one sharp u dumb shit....

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  • MMAMINDSET
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    jackthedrinker. it explains why he has "SHARP"s when his remarks are 6 seconds old, E-tard. its a stupid thing to do. anyone who disagrees has a confidence problem.

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  • JP86
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    I didnt even no i could sharp myself let alone vote for myself on anything.....im new to posting alot..i usually do the picks and stuff...and comment when i want to...dont do alot of coolin or weakin or sharpin or funning..sooo

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  • HollywoodKOs
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    Yeah... what if a Brock was calling Cain a "Brown Bitch"? Hmmmmm? Half of America would have said Brock is a racist.

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  • Jesper
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    Exactly! imagine that...

    Brock would have gotten A LOT of shit for it.

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  • SHAKEZULA
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    Bisping is a baby back bitch. mhmmmm.

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  • UnderdogGreatness
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    I'm not a Bisping hater by any means, but I'd like to just feed him to Anderson Silva and watch him get destroyed or picked apart.

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  • WADM
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    Its obvious u dont hate Bisping by giving him the chance 2 fight 4 the world championship vs Anderson Silva... Great idea, that wud be a beating that even Stalin wud feel bad xD

    Reply 3 years ago
  • JiuJitsuBBQ
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    If the knee was intentional, then Bisbing is a ****er. But the fact of the matter is that Jorge and his camp started all the bad blood and now they are crying about illegal knees and spitting and name calling. Sorry, but you don't start that kind of shit and not expect some kind of reaction. Like I said, if the knee was intentional, that is terrible. And if Bisbing spit on the coaches, that is unprofessional. But all of the shit talking and silly videos that came out of Jorge's camp before the fight were shameful and none of those idiots should act surprised that they created a really bad situation for themselves.

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  • knn03
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    Like we haven't seen hype before. Look at Tito, Chael, Koscheck, etc. but that's no excuse for an illegal strike. I'm going with Jorge on this one. It's not like the knee came half a second after Jorge was grounded, Bisping knew it, it was intentional.

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  • JiuJitsuBBQ
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    I've seen plenty of fights hyped like this and I have always hated it. I think it brings the sport down. Fortunately, most of the juvenile hype from the above mentioned fights were aimed at guys with a lot of integrity so nothing came of it. But this time, it was aimed at a hot head with no sense of humor. Fact of the matter is, it could have been a lot worse. But like I said, I am not excusing Bisbing, I am just saying that it should not come as a surprise. I was expecting a groin kick myself.

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  • Stiks
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    So talking smack entitles you to retaliate in such a way? If that were the case, Anderson Silva should have stuck his whole index finger in Chael's eye and called it an accident. Whether or not he made videos and stuff, this isn't the streets, its a professional sport. Once you're in the octagon, you should act as such. It was all hype, and it worked. Bisping was just too stupid to get that.

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  • StoneField
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    nah man all this proves is u shouldnt piss bisping off. let him do the trash talking and answer with ur fists; just like jorge said he coulda chose not to continue.. he rolled the dice and paid for it; done and over bisping admitted to letting it get to him; but if u question his professionalism look at the respect he showed Akiyama, Leben and miller; after hendo KO'd him, he humbled himself and i for one am looking forward to him and marquardt..... Lets all be honest there is no one in the division right now that can topple anderson silva lol

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  • JiuJitsuBBQ
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    Read my response to knn03. In no way do I think that it entitles anyone to an illegal knee or bad behavior in any way. But let's all be honest about how the real world works. Not everyone in this world possess the sportsmanship or integrity that Silva and GSP have. And remember, this is fighting, not table tennis. If you start a campaign of shame and dishonor against someone who is not mature or strong enough to take it, shit can and will happen. We all know that. So no, I have no sympathy for Bisbing, I just understand causal relationships and therefore have no sympathy for Jorge or his camp either and wish they would just shut up. Hopefully this will send a message to all the guys who think they can hype their way into a main event. Also, notice how all the guys who act like retards before fights always end up getting taken out? Interesting. Maybe they should spend more time training and less time acting like they are in the WWE.

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  • movescamp
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    Are you kidding. They are encouraged and paid to. This Dana whites style. Ever see the show he put on tv? Did he decide to show how hard these guys train, where they came from, or how incredible a lot of these fighters are for their dedication. No way. It's easier to just show and encourage drama. Maybe tuf and the housewives of la should do a season together cause that's what it's like.



    Dana loves this. Why wouldn't he punish bisping. They hit hard in football. But you can guarantee if Brady spit on a coach he would be severly Punished. Because they have a public image to uphold. So does the ufc it just dana whites vision for the image of mma. Where you promote guys who do this. Jorge Rivera. Why would Bisping even takethis fight? What a joke. If he is so good why wouldnt he fight a better guy? Cause he gets ko'd.



    He beat Akiyama who decided he wanted to trade with bisping instead of have a gameplan, and Dan Miller. Everyone else he fought has been mediocre.



    Same thing with Rampage. They gave him the victory against machida (who they want to cut after 2 career losses) and give him Hammil?



    Say what you want about machida he is a class act and has a refined style. Never talks trash but fans have to actually understand fighting to know what's going on.

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  • Jesper
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    If you look at some of the pride fights with knees to the head it takes a few more then 1 to make a significant impact like Rivera was acting.

    Legal or not, Rivera shouldnt come cry to the media after he started this mess

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  • SHAKEZULA
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    ignorant

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  • Jesper
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    thats ignoraaaant yaayyy wuuuuiiiii your ignoraaant.



    If its overeems knees then sure he can really hurt someone but have you ever seen bisping knee someone once to get a K.O.?

    Hes allways used lots and lots of knees in fights with little or no result.

    Your mind is under developed and you can only see till the tip of your fingers. Good luck with that

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  • jackthedrinker89
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    but in PRIDE you were able to do that, in other words you were expecting it and had a thought to block the knees or kicks on the ground, and idk if you have ever been hurt but if you have were u expecting it? cuz it hurts alot worse if your not expecting it.... your being ignorant so just stop talking dude

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  • Jesper
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    Have you ever seen a pride fight ya big goof? Are you tyelling me that in ALL the pride fights that have ever been, everybody who received knees to the head was blocking them everytime?



    That answer to that one is hell NO! You call me ignorant yet you generalize and speculate on some dumbass theory.

    If your in a fight in general your expecting hits to the head, jorges not a nooby, he's done this before.

    Why dont you keep talking and hit me with some knowledge? HAHA

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  • SHAKEZULA
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    so since uv never seen bisping throw a knee then he cant hurt anyone if he threw one. Way tohavefaith in ur supposed top contender.

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  • Jesper
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    Can ya read? huh, ya moron?



    "Hes allways used lots and lots of knees in fights with little or no result." is what I wrote.



    you answer "so since uv never seen bisping throw a knee then he cant hurt anyone if he threw one. Way tohavefaith in ur supposed top contender."



    Can ya see it now that the two lines are so close together? did ya pass the 8th grade?





    Your a waste of time.

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  • SHAKEZULA
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    concept still there. Dnt cra ehow much u troll on this site dosnt make ur point nay better. Bisping appearantly still cudnt blow the dust off ur moms **** with his lil ol knees. Just try to calm down pop some ridilin pills or something, smoke a bowl, get laid! whatever u have to do so that u dnt throw up on this site and eveyrone on it when they dnt agree with u.

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  • postmortem
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    I think jorge just needs to let it go. are their grounds for suspicion about that knee yes it did look questionable. However the only person that knows for sure is bisping and if he is guilty he sure as hell wont admit it. it really serves no purpose to continue, history is always written by the victors even if they lie and cheat to get there and for jorge to continue it just makes him look like a sore loser.

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  • diamond-mma2
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    take it like a man, talked all that shit even before that knee it was clear bisping had the match if he continued like he did, yea it was illegal, props for not giving up, if it was intentional who knows, all that talking he should of been training, that sorry ass take down defense, stop bitching and go train, and having a coach that instigates the situation and encourage that kind of behavior its shameful

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  • mikebreeding
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    yes the knee was not needed, but Rivera was not really doing shit he landed two or three good shots, thats it. If you want real bullshit talk about Nick Ring's Win. Earth in general need new judges. i was going for Ring but he lost that fight

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  • taz
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    Rivera landed his best shots in the second round,after he got hit with the knee so he should just face the fact that Bisping is a better fighter than he is.

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    loved this fight, only time i havent liked bisping was the hendo fight; jorge got his just desserts and his team who helped impersonate bisping and sing along with barne... i mean jorge got what was coming to them as well... im ashamed as an american at jorge's actions leading up to the fight. he is on a downward slope of his career and instead of doing what countless others(most notably Couture) have done and fought there way to the top; he runs his mouth, hypes himself and trash talk his way into a tier of competion that he is not at.... Illegal knee aside Bisping kept him guessing with the takedowns and barring a flash knockout from rivera it would have been a TKO or decision... good for Bispng

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  • Vergina
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    Rumors of Vitor vs Bisping are swirling, so it looks like we get to see Bisping sleeping on the canvas once again

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    Bisping knows he's got no power in his weak hands so he used an ilegal knee to even the odds, Bisping's a **** we all saw that during his TUF season as coach.

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    what a stupid comment, Rivera landed his best shots after the knee and Bisping tko'd him.

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    ok let me knee u in the face KO u and then we can fight deal?

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    i just find it hard to believe that people actually think that it wasnt intentional, come on are you going to elementary? maybe bisping was going to win anyway but man he didnt trew it in the heat of the action he clinched him while he was tottaly in the ground, spit at his corner.



    paul dailey and bisping........ just sayin

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  • mma_junkie111
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    come on yhink about it why would he do it on purpose??knowing the fight could hav got stopped and completly messing up his plans to fight a top fighter,he wouldnt!!it was very sloppy yes and he did act like a bitch after,if some1 took the piss out of my family id do more then spit at them,these guys fighters and gets raged!!shit happens they ent playing tennis!!plus he did him a favour by doing it cos jorge fought better after the knee,simple fact is bisping would of done the same to jorge no matter what he ent on his level face facts!!!

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  • jesse
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    bisping a **** but either way, jorge was not gonna win that fight

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  • overhand right
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    Seems like anybody who badmouths Bisping becomes a hero and good all round guy. I don't particularly like Bisping either but I can tell you that after this fight I'm most certainly not a fan of Rivera. I don't like fighters that talk trash non stop, it's immature, and Rivera took it way over the top. I knew he'd use that knee as an excuse if he lost. he pretended to be hurt worse than he was cus he knew if he lost he could say it was cus of the 'deliberate' knee.



    If you ask me, Bisping got carried away with his hate for Rivera and made a mistake which Rivera is now cashing in on as his way of ensuring attention is taken away from the fact that he got his ass beat down after talking himself up for weeks.

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  • jesse
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    you couldnt be more right

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  • SHAKEZULA
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    Rivera calls out a top fighter which he really shudnt have gotten,anyway he talks trash to the number one egotistical narcistic ass who seems to get dealt the sympathy card. You say for fact that he faked the pain from the knee which u dnt kno any more than sayin Bisping didnt throw the damn knee on purpose. IDK maybe i just like to think coherently for my own benefit.

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  • JohnnyBravo
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    Was it just me or did anyone else see Bisping spit at Rivera's corner after the fight?

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  • HunterB
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    if someone from America had done some cheap dirty crap like this, i wouldnt be supporting them. If you are supporting Bisping just because you are from England then you are just as much of a piece of trash as he is.

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    cant agree more, no matter where u r from, what he did was just wrong

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    from america and support bispings action;

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  • Zadok83
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    Guess I'll be taking you out front tomorrow morning then.

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    I do beleave the knee was intentional and im sure he would do it again, unfortunantly bisping is a dirty fighter, and that knee did hav a real efect cuz it was unexpected and after dat rivera wasnt just frustrated but he had probs just timing his steps... but im happy 2 hear dat bisping is gonna get belfort, some 1 he cant do those cheao shots, im really disapointed with all bisping's actitude, rivera just became the victim

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    "That knee was deliberate, and I'll tell you exactly how I know this. I go to sweep him and he holds on to the fence. He holds on to the fence the whole time. And then, within 30 or 40 seconds of doing that, he knees me [illegally] in the head. I'm on all fours, he winds up and knees me in the head. Then he puts his hands up, walks over to my corner and says, 'He's the p-ssy.' Now if that wasn't deliberate, I don't know what the f-ck is."



    Can anyone make sense of that? It literally makes no sense what so ever. There's nothing linking holding the fence to the knee and Mike was flipping off his corner because they were hurling abuse at him. It's stupid and if you believe this stuff so are you.

    Reply 3 years ago