I really hope they'll feed this arrogant fool to one of the best terminators at UFC. Dos Santos and Cain V. would be perfect for the job. Because they're still relatively unknown to mainstream boxing fans in particular and to the public in general, Dana will most likely go for a popular name who represents MMA: RANDY Couture fits the bill.
Kimbo will NEVER be chosen for this match-up. His ground game isn't good enough and he could get ko'ed by the veteran boxer. This is an MMA vs Boxing fight and Dana is well aware of that...A win over Toney is a statement validating which fighting sport is better...
no its not, boxing is boxing and MMA is MMA, Kimbos ground game wont matter because Toney wont have one, and i think it would be interesting to watch. If that happened and Kimbo wins that would be a much bigger slap in the face to boxing than if Couture beats him. I mean come on if a backyard brawler beats a boxing legend.....OUCH. but if coture fights him hes just going to take him down and dominate him, proving that 8 months of training isnt enough, and thats about all. Unless couture goes in there and KO's him, it wont prove much to boxing fans
i dont think he will be champ or anything but toney is a great fighter and people should give him more credit atleast he signed with the ufc and wants good competition.
He would get his credit and respect if he would show some. He doesnt deserve a fight with Randy. He should have to work his way up like everyone but because of his boxing pedigree he will bring in the fans. Dana will put him on a card with another well known fighter just to draw crowds. thats what its all about to him. Not the fighters or the martial arts, just dollars.
MORE ppl who don't know what theyre talking about!! Kimbo has already beaten him!! Made pretty quick work of him actually and even won by submission! He let Kimbo beat him by submission and it was Pre-TUF 10.....Thats just sad! Pay attention "fans"
Kimbo cant stand with him. People dont give Kimbo any credit for ground skills but he has been training with American Top Team for over a year and putting in a lot of time on the mat. By no means a high level grappler but I think even he could get Toney down and finish him.
James 'Blubbermouf' Toney is legit competition. The most distinguish boxer to ever have the balls to actually make the transition, as opposed to just running their mouths and never backing it up. He's putting his money where his mouth is, and asking for the best competition that they're willing to give him. He deserves credit for that. And, he's knocked out a lot of good boxers with big pillows strapped to his hands. He can hurt some people with those little baby UFC gloves on that will only make his striking more devastating.
That being said... I don't see how he's going to have much of a chance. Even against Kimbo. I was never a Kimbo fan, but, his take-downs against Houston were beautiful... And Randy? I don't think Toney will be able to cope with the dirty-boxing. I don't think Randy would even need to take the fight down, he could beat him standing. If he pressed Toney against the cage, and leaves no distance, wraps him up and dirty boxes, Toney will shut down mentally. He's too used to the ref splitting them up.
Also, Toney is used to having those big gloves for defense. A lot of punches will get through in the UFC, where they would have been blocked by glove in boxing.
Well, I got to give you a shout because you make some good points. However, I have to disagree with you in certain aspects.
James “Lights Out” Toney backs his shit up no doubt. He is a world class boxer (IBA Champion) with a particular style that is definitely hard to adapt too. He has fought with 12 OZ. Boxing gloves and it it’s scary to think about the damage he will be doing with the UFC 4OZ MMA gloves. You got to love the guy; he is from the school of hard knocks and has never ducked anybody! I guarantee you there will be bombs thrown vs. Kimbo! For peeps here to knock him and doubt a World class boxing champion against Kimbo is ludicrous! We in the MMA game cannot be so BIAS! And you make a point; there are no MMA fighters willing to make the transition to Boxing.
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I have Toney as the favorite vs. Kimbo. You mention Kimbo’s takedowns, props to Kimbo, hard work is definitely showing fruit, but we really don’t know to this day what James Toney has been working on. I am sure he is doing his homework, eating his Chicken and Broccoli, and putting all the work in with his wrestling and jiu-jitsu coaches. Against Coulture, he needs to stop his takedowns to have a legitimate chance. I am not going to judge because who knows, maybe he is ****ing with all of us and has some ground skills. I can tell you that Coulture will have NO CHANCE dirty boxing with Toney. No way in hell! I have followed James Toney since 93’ and he is most dangerous when you don’t give him the space.
I like James a lot! I think his interviews are entertaining and he backs his shit up.
I can literally say I am a BIG fan of the G three… Rampage, Toney, and Kimbo.
Yeah... I think I give Toney a lot more credit than most people. They complain about him because for some reason they like to hate Dana White. They're not thinking clearly.
I believe Toney has claimed to have been in martial arts since a young age. I don't know if that means he took TKD when he was 13 for a week, or if he's a JJ master? I suspect that's all talk though, trying to convince the sanctioning bodies that he won't be crippled in his first match. If Toney can't give them reason to believe that he can compete, they won't sanction the fights. He has to tell them that he can safely defend himself on the ground... I don't think he actually can.
His boxing will be better than anyone in MMA. Every single other aspect of an MMA skillset for him, will be worse than every other UFC fighter.
Honestly I don't think he would win fighting any of the lightweights. Boxing is just too transparent. The stance is wrong for MMA, the balance is wrong. And I think the superior striking of boxers is pretty overstated.
Your right both Kimbo *surprizingly* and Randy have great take downs and ground games. I know for sure if they stand, Toney will KO both, unless Coutor clinches against the cage.
But if this goes to the ground, Kimbo Slice has amazing ground and pounds which he proved against Bo Cantral. He would stop the fight with a TKO possibly a submission depending how goood his submissions are in that time.
But Randy for sure on the ground will stop the fight with a TKO victory no doubt.
Sorry but i can not possibly see how Toney can win on the ground, I'm not a Boxing fan but dam Toney is a great fighter
When Kimbo fought Bo Cantral, it was cake walk. Bo was shitting his pants on the way to the ring and you could see FEAR in his eyes. That will not be the case with Toney, I think Toney will walk to the ring with a Hard-On ready to bust a KO!
if youre out to prove that boxers are superior atheletes to mma fighters and want to be taken seriously, the one guy that you dont call out is kimbo. if you want to be succesfull one of the guys you dont call out is couture.
This baboon has no idea what hes getting himself into. he clearly has brain damage since he mumbles his words....its not like its his second language. he speaks english....and he cant even speak it. he needs to shut up.
u gotta a big mouth...good for u...and most of the shit u said u were gonna do in ur career u backed up..ok...but bro ur not wat u used to be..maybe back in the day u woulda be able to make somethin of urself in MMA...but not now...if I thought for one minute u would accept a challenge from me I would prove to u that ur nowhere near bein ready to beat these guys ur callin out and trust me if u can't beat me there's no way u would be the likes of Couture...I have bjj, I have stand up and I have stamina..only thing I don't have is a contract...if I were to win..I'd get a contract..YOUR contract..if u beat me..IF u beat me u could name ur price..I can't wait to see u get ur ass handed to ya once u step inside the Octagon..Dana.u done ****ed up signin this clown..hey wait...maybe if I keep harrassin ya like a lil bitch like Toney...would I get a contract too???
UFC better be careful.The wrong match up, and James Toney will KTFO someone. Couture has been dinged twice by liddell. I would be scared to watch that fight.If Toney taps Couture`s chin you know those toes are going to curl up. Kimbo will get KTFO also. Dana needs to put a legit fighter in with Toney and don`t underestimate him because he sounds like bubba from fat alburt.
Thats why I say, if hes such a credible opponent (like he thinks himself as a god) give him a top 5 opponent and lets bring the truth to surface of how qualified he really is. He;ll get owned
Muhamed Ali for those who dont know, years ago fought Japan's top kickboxer and it turned out to be a draw. BUT there wasnt ground game back then involved in the fight. Way different now. If there had been Ali would have went down.
your wrong the only thing that happened in that fat is the japanese guy went on his back and kicked up from the ground. He knew if he stood up he woulda got knocked out by Ali. Any and I repeat any fighter in MMa or UFC is less than a James Toney sparring partner standing up. If they can get him to the ground its a different story. Until we see a top boxer with a top UFC and a mix of rules to balance the fight the debate will rage on.
Kimbo already fought one big mouth boxer wen he barely knew anything about mma and every since tuf 10 finale he has been training with ATT so with them working with him he can 100% smash another big mouth boxer
Well I have said it already a million times, but Kimbo has already beat that ass in an MMA match and that was before Kimbo even got the excellent training he has been a part of as of recent. Kimbo beat him by submission to. Anyways, why did he call Kimbo a copy-cat? Because he is black and big and fights?? Lol.....did I miss something?
I don't care how well of a fighter he is, before he fights anyone he needs to go back to Preschool and learn how to properly pronounce his words. He sounds like a complete retard.
There is not a person currently in MMA or UFC who could STAND UP with James Toney, a fat washed up boxer. Period end of story. If there was one person who could even contend in professional boxing they would jump so fast it wouldn't be funny. Boxers still make more and have bigger draws for their elite stars.
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Even Bimbo Slice would smack ur ass...
I hate that guy. But with 8 months mma training? sure he can beat bimbo slice. But Randy would tear him apart.
MAN i hope he doesnt win. First legit mma fighter he fights, he is going down in the first round.
I really hope they'll feed this arrogant fool to one of the best terminators at UFC. Dos Santos and Cain V. would be perfect for the job. Because they're still relatively unknown to mainstream boxing fans in particular and to the public in general, Dana will most likely go for a popular name who represents MMA: RANDY Couture fits the bill.
Kimbo will NEVER be chosen for this match-up. His ground game isn't good enough and he could get ko'ed by the veteran boxer. This is an MMA vs Boxing fight and Dana is well aware of that...A win over Toney is a statement validating which fighting sport is better...
no its not, boxing is boxing and MMA is MMA, Kimbos ground game wont matter because Toney wont have one, and i think it would be interesting to watch. If that happened and Kimbo wins that would be a much bigger slap in the face to boxing than if Couture beats him. I mean come on if a backyard brawler beats a boxing legend.....OUCH. but if coture fights him hes just going to take him down and dominate him, proving that 8 months of training isnt enough, and thats about all. Unless couture goes in there and KO's him, it wont prove much to boxing fans
Jamoes toney should play in the next dragon ball movie as : http://65.img.v4.skyrock.net/65f/goku93400/pics/1408421821_small.jpg
Man id put money on kimbo if he fought toney. Kimbo like a sponge and never stops learning. Kimbo by flying armbar lmfao
i dont think he will be champ or anything but toney is a great fighter and people should give him more credit atleast he signed with the ufc and wants good competition.
He would get his credit and respect if he would show some. He doesnt deserve a fight with Randy. He should have to work his way up like everyone but because of his boxing pedigree he will bring in the fans. Dana will put him on a card with another well known fighter just to draw crowds. thats what its all about to him. Not the fighters or the martial arts, just dollars.
idk if you try to take him down aprently he is going to launch your ass into space...
MORE ppl who don't know what theyre talking about!! Kimbo has already beaten him!! Made pretty quick work of him actually and even won by submission! He let Kimbo beat him by submission and it was Pre-TUF 10.....Thats just sad! Pay attention "fans"
Toney needs subtitles.
This might help.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EvR3_S23KM
He is damn lucky he can fight because he is obviously not well educated.
If he wants to win pick Kimbo. Don't pick Randy he is a good wrestler. Actually get Randy and get man handled.
I dont agree, I think kimbo would be a good entrance test. Everyone seems to be underestimating Kimbo but I honestly think he'll surprise pple.
not to say hes amazing or anything, just that hes gonna do better than pple give him credit for
Kimbo cant stand with him. People dont give Kimbo any credit for ground skills but he has been training with American Top Team for over a year and putting in a lot of time on the mat. By no means a high level grappler but I think even he could get Toney down and finish him.
@KILLKLOK
His main trainer and MMA Fight Instructor is the one and only MMA Legend (*"Bas Rutlen"*)
To train with a guy like that is frigging lucky espectialy if your a guy like
Kimbo Slice.
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No doubt. Bas is awesome. Probably one of the most knowledgable martial artists alive. Kimbo should come along quickly.
James 'Blubbermouf' Toney is legit competition. The most distinguish boxer to ever have the balls to actually make the transition, as opposed to just running their mouths and never backing it up. He's putting his money where his mouth is, and asking for the best competition that they're willing to give him. He deserves credit for that. And, he's knocked out a lot of good boxers with big pillows strapped to his hands. He can hurt some people with those little baby UFC gloves on that will only make his striking more devastating.
That being said... I don't see how he's going to have much of a chance. Even against Kimbo. I was never a Kimbo fan, but, his take-downs against Houston were beautiful... And Randy? I don't think Toney will be able to cope with the dirty-boxing. I don't think Randy would even need to take the fight down, he could beat him standing. If he pressed Toney against the cage, and leaves no distance, wraps him up and dirty boxes, Toney will shut down mentally. He's too used to the ref splitting them up.
Also, Toney is used to having those big gloves for defense. A lot of punches will get through in the UFC, where they would have been blocked by glove in boxing.
That may be the first sharp I've given you.
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I must be slipping.
@ ston3pony
Well, I got to give you a shout because you make some good points. However, I have to disagree with you in certain aspects.
James “Lights Out” Toney backs his shit up no doubt. He is a world class boxer (IBA Champion) with a particular style that is definitely hard to adapt too. He has fought with 12 OZ. Boxing gloves and it it’s scary to think about the damage he will be doing with the UFC 4OZ MMA gloves. You got to love the guy; he is from the school of hard knocks and has never ducked anybody! I guarantee you there will be bombs thrown vs. Kimbo! For peeps here to knock him and doubt a World class boxing champion against Kimbo is ludicrous! We in the MMA game cannot be so BIAS! And you make a point; there are no MMA fighters willing to make the transition to Boxing.
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I have Toney as the favorite vs. Kimbo. You mention Kimbo’s takedowns, props to Kimbo, hard work is definitely showing fruit, but we really don’t know to this day what James Toney has been working on. I am sure he is doing his homework, eating his Chicken and Broccoli, and putting all the work in with his wrestling and jiu-jitsu coaches. Against Coulture, he needs to stop his takedowns to have a legitimate chance. I am not going to judge because who knows, maybe he is ****ing with all of us and has some ground skills. I can tell you that Coulture will have NO CHANCE dirty boxing with Toney. No way in hell! I have followed James Toney since 93’ and he is most dangerous when you don’t give him the space.
I like James a lot! I think his interviews are entertaining and he backs his shit up.
I can literally say I am a BIG fan of the G three… Rampage, Toney, and Kimbo.
Dude theres a lot of MMA fighters who have transition to boxing in between there MMA career will name a few for u
Anderson Silva
Randy Couture
Marcus Davis
Stephen Bonnar and even Kimbo slice has a legit boxing match
They dont have legit boxing matches against top quality boxers.
Yeah... I think I give Toney a lot more credit than most people. They complain about him because for some reason they like to hate Dana White. They're not thinking clearly.
I believe Toney has claimed to have been in martial arts since a young age. I don't know if that means he took TKD when he was 13 for a week, or if he's a JJ master? I suspect that's all talk though, trying to convince the sanctioning bodies that he won't be crippled in his first match. If Toney can't give them reason to believe that he can compete, they won't sanction the fights. He has to tell them that he can safely defend himself on the ground... I don't think he actually can.
His boxing will be better than anyone in MMA. Every single other aspect of an MMA skillset for him, will be worse than every other UFC fighter.
Honestly I don't think he would win fighting any of the lightweights. Boxing is just too transparent. The stance is wrong for MMA, the balance is wrong. And I think the superior striking of boxers is pretty overstated.
Your right both Kimbo *surprizingly* and Randy have great take downs and ground games. I know for sure if they stand, Toney will KO both, unless Coutor clinches against the cage.
But if this goes to the ground, Kimbo Slice has amazing ground and pounds which he proved against Bo Cantral. He would stop the fight with a TKO possibly a submission depending how goood his submissions are in that time.
But Randy for sure on the ground will stop the fight with a TKO victory no doubt.
Sorry but i can not possibly see how Toney can win on the ground, I'm not a Boxing fan but dam Toney is a great fighter
your a moron.
@ NikMegamanHulstein
When Kimbo fought Bo Cantral, it was cake walk. Bo was shitting his pants on the way to the ring and you could see FEAR in his eyes. That will not be the case with Toney, I think Toney will walk to the ring with a Hard-On ready to bust a KO!
Still....
i think he show really awsome ground in that fight against him, just totaly killed him in that fight.
Way cool :)
cant wait to see his "one-dimensional" submitted face...
your mom cant wait either, she says....
go hang yourself u pathetic gayreek mulatto
Not this fool again....Someone change his disc, its full of scratches and stuck repeating the same shit over and over.
Get him in the cage already, nuff talk...
True enough.. Every time I see this same ol' post on a new "call-out", it makes me think lowkick is on the fritz again..
YaH!! all i can her is "chibabagah nawafla bubuganush" from this guy half the time
But if i listen closly... i can hear some english out of him.
I hope he gets Couture first...I want him to get dirty boxed and get twisted on the ground
this dude is hilarious, you guys should lighten the **** up.
WHERE WE GO AGAIN calling out fighters toney should be happy to be giving a fight in the ufc i hope he gets gonzaga he would get destroyed by gonzaga
if youre out to prove that boxers are superior atheletes to mma fighters and want to be taken seriously, the one guy that you dont call out is kimbo. if you want to be succesfull one of the guys you dont call out is couture.
LOL you dont know wtf you are talking about.
Actually, I think u are just having trouble following what he is saying.
what did he say at 0:50 ???
Im wolrda be ultimit orignl. Bimbo lice knock you mouth, stop playin. No talk 3time candy man Cotoure. im knock IBA werl chmpen. Holla.
This baboon has no idea what hes getting himself into. he clearly has brain damage since he mumbles his words....its not like its his second language. he speaks english....and he cant even speak it. he needs to shut up.
Piss off Tooney, I wont even watch your stupid videos anymore.
i can barey understand what he says...
u gotta a big mouth...good for u...and most of the shit u said u were gonna do in ur career u backed up..ok...but bro ur not wat u used to be..maybe back in the day u woulda be able to make somethin of urself in MMA...but not now...if I thought for one minute u would accept a challenge from me I would prove to u that ur nowhere near bein ready to beat these guys ur callin out and trust me if u can't beat me there's no way u would be the likes of Couture...I have bjj, I have stand up and I have stamina..only thing I don't have is a contract...if I were to win..I'd get a contract..YOUR contract..if u beat me..IF u beat me u could name ur price..I can't wait to see u get ur ass handed to ya once u step inside the Octagon..Dana.u done ****ed up signin this clown..hey wait...maybe if I keep harrassin ya like a lil bitch like Toney...would I get a contract too???
Damn it your spelling sucks
that's how I chose to spell those words..wats ur excuse on ur own profile.."sopose"...before u critique someone elses flaws...critique urself.
UFC better be careful.The wrong match up, and James Toney will KTFO someone. Couture has been dinged twice by liddell. I would be scared to watch that fight.If Toney taps Couture`s chin you know those toes are going to curl up. Kimbo will get KTFO also. Dana needs to put a legit fighter in with Toney and don`t underestimate him because he sounds like bubba from fat alburt.
Thats why I say, if hes such a credible opponent (like he thinks himself as a god) give him a top 5 opponent and lets bring the truth to surface of how qualified he really is. He;ll get owned
Muhamed Ali for those who dont know, years ago fought Japan's top kickboxer and it turned out to be a draw. BUT there wasnt ground game back then involved in the fight. Way different now. If there had been Ali would have went down.
your wrong the only thing that happened in that fat is the japanese guy went on his back and kicked up from the ground. He knew if he stood up he woulda got knocked out by Ali. Any and I repeat any fighter in MMa or UFC is less than a James Toney sparring partner standing up. If they can get him to the ground its a different story. Until we see a top boxer with a top UFC and a mix of rules to balance the fight the debate will rage on.
You are clueless.
Kimbo might win, but why have a "might" in there at all. Tooney's mouth has written checks a top opponent will tear up.
Kimbo already fought one big mouth boxer wen he barely knew anything about mma and every since tuf 10 finale he has been training with ATT so with them working with him he can 100% smash another big mouth boxer
Look at older interviews of Toney, he speaks just fine. If make a living off of getting punched in the head, something is gonna suffer.
haha your name is RabbitPuncher :)
Toney is clearly punch drunk, and they should throw someone good at him.
Right now i think they should put Anderson Silva in against him. If he knocks Silva out - it can only be good for SIlva to learn a lesson.
Well I have said it already a million times, but Kimbo has already beat that ass in an MMA match and that was before Kimbo even got the excellent training he has been a part of as of recent. Kimbo beat him by submission to. Anyways, why did he call Kimbo a copy-cat? Because he is black and big and fights?? Lol.....did I miss something?
I don't care how well of a fighter he is, before he fights anyone he needs to go back to Preschool and learn how to properly pronounce his words. He sounds like a complete retard.
Stop wasting valuable oxygen. You're not helping our "global warming" crisis with all this hot air.
There is not a person currently in MMA or UFC who could STAND UP with James Toney, a fat washed up boxer. Period end of story. If there was one person who could even contend in professional boxing they would jump so fast it wouldn't be funny. Boxers still make more and have bigger draws for their elite stars.