This is by no means an easy fight for both Shogun or bones but unlike a lot of people I see bones taking this one,his crazy unorthadox style and reach will be to much for Shogun who has had to much of a layoff and will be also suffering from ringrust.Jones is a different animal,he wont run like Machida.
I agree with you frontkick. I think shoguns long lay off not to mention his major surgery will be a major hurtle for him to overcome. Jones has been on a tear and he is in prime conditioning. Not to mention his amazing reach and ground game.
If reach will be the deciding factor then how did he destroy Overeem who was much bigger and had almost an identical reach advantage?
At the end of the day the better, smarter, more tenacious fighter is going to win. Reach while it is important, is not going to decide the fight. Fedor is always at a disadvantage in reach and he won 31 fights in a row.
I believe Bones can and possibly will win. As long as he doesn't get too nervous or Star Struck. But if Shogun goes nuts I can guarantee you Jon Jones will be overwhelmed and it could be a very short night.
No offense to the Army, but I have never been motivated by coaches or drill sergeants screaming in my ear--except to punch the screaming guy in the nose.
Greg Jackson's leadership style is probably why he has one of the best camps in MMA.
I have no problem having definite opinions upon a wide range of subjects, but when it comes to most MMA fights, I am reduced to estimating probabilities based on highly subjective personal judgement due to the "anything can happen in MMA factor".
This is good, because uncertainty creates anticipation for upcoming fights and allows for spirited disputes between fans.
Jon Jones is only 23 years old. When I look at his fights and realize that he will be a better fighter in the future, I wonder how he can avoid holding the title for a long time at some point in his career. Ryan Bader is no joke as a wrestler, and striker, and Jones steamrolled him.
Every MMA fan knows of Shogun's accomplishments. The man is a walking, talking, breathing legend of the sport. He has survived and conquered through countless epic battles against a who's who of MMA history.
While I feel for Rashad's bad luck, I am selfishly glad that Jones will face Shogun, as it is a fight which interests me much more and I was growing impatient as Jones was slowly groomed for the top ten.
This is one fight I am not going to miss, and I am jealous of those lucky fans in Jersey who bought tickets for one fight, only to find an epic fight fall in their laps.
What an amazing match-up and even more so due to the organic way it came to fruition:
(1) Jones completely dominates & submits the very talented Ryan Bader (2) Rashad simultaneously injures his knee & officially w/draws from title fight THAT very day (3) Rampage then turns down title fight offer (4 very valid reasons) & Jonny "Bones" receives & subsequently accepts a title fight w/ Shogun Rua. Couldn't write a better script. "Bones" has the biggest challenge of his career to date in the very experienced, strategic & talented Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. Shogun is a rare delivery device 4 the type of unbridled violence that MMA fans love so much.I first noticed "Bones" fight Andre Gusmao & thought his youth, grappling, striking & overall inexperience were not as evident as they should've been & was immediately intrigued. After going thru O' Brien & Bonnar the most significant factor was how much he had progressed in (3) fights! Once his total destruction & manhandling of the brutally strong wrestler,Matt Hammill, I was POSITIVE that my initial instincts were correct...he's going to become the biggest star the UFC has ever seen. He will continue 2 bring a level of creativity & hyper-technical striking that has yet to exist in the sport. Being a giant LHW, I predict he will clean out all competition in LHW division over the next 2-3 yrs & will move up to HW once his "Man-strength" develops which is traditionally late 20's/early 30's.
Some MM-A-holes will always call it "nut-jockin" or "riding a hype-train" but I base my theory on a wide array of evidence including his youth, fight record, method of victory, level of dominance in said victory, quality of opponents, my own personal experience interviewing & seeing him train and finally, what other ACTUAL fighters believe from their experiences w/ him. Don't get me wrong, Shogun can win this fight. I think he needs to go after him right away ala' Chael vs Spider. Run at this kid & show him who he's in the cage against. If Shogun were to defeat Jones, I still believe he will become everything I stated above. Fighters like Jones are special and come back even better after a loss and at the young age of 23, he'll be shocking people for the next 10 yrs win or lose against Shogun
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This is by no means an easy fight for both Shogun or bones but unlike a lot of people I see bones taking this one,his crazy unorthadox style and reach will be to much for Shogun who has had to much of a layoff and will be also suffering from ringrust.Jones is a different animal,he wont run like Machida.
i think ufc undisputed is calling you
I agree with you frontkick. I think shoguns long lay off not to mention his major surgery will be a major hurtle for him to overcome. Jones has been on a tear and he is in prime conditioning. Not to mention his amazing reach and ground game.
If reach will be the deciding factor then how did he destroy Overeem who was much bigger and had almost an identical reach advantage?
At the end of the day the better, smarter, more tenacious fighter is going to win. Reach while it is important, is not going to decide the fight. Fedor is always at a disadvantage in reach and he won 31 fights in a row.
I believe Bones can and possibly will win. As long as he doesn't get too nervous or Star Struck. But if Shogun goes nuts I can guarantee you Jon Jones will be overwhelmed and it could be a very short night.
How can you compare the drawn out from weight cutting Overeem from back then to the freakball wrecking machine Bones Jones of present?!
I agree with your other points in a way though...
I am thoroughly impressed with the humility of Greg Jackson. It's great to see leaders in MMA teaching by example.
Superb,
Odesa
No offense to the Army, but I have never been motivated by coaches or drill sergeants screaming in my ear--except to punch the screaming guy in the nose.
Greg Jackson's leadership style is probably why he has one of the best camps in MMA.
I have no problem having definite opinions upon a wide range of subjects, but when it comes to most MMA fights, I am reduced to estimating probabilities based on highly subjective personal judgement due to the "anything can happen in MMA factor".
This is good, because uncertainty creates anticipation for upcoming fights and allows for spirited disputes between fans.
Jon Jones is only 23 years old. When I look at his fights and realize that he will be a better fighter in the future, I wonder how he can avoid holding the title for a long time at some point in his career. Ryan Bader is no joke as a wrestler, and striker, and Jones steamrolled him.
Every MMA fan knows of Shogun's accomplishments. The man is a walking, talking, breathing legend of the sport. He has survived and conquered through countless epic battles against a who's who of MMA history.
While I feel for Rashad's bad luck, I am selfishly glad that Jones will face Shogun, as it is a fight which interests me much more and I was growing impatient as Jones was slowly groomed for the top ten.
This is one fight I am not going to miss, and I am jealous of those lucky fans in Jersey who bought tickets for one fight, only to find an epic fight fall in their laps.
Do the trainers make the fighters or do the fighters make the trainers... its hard to say, but G. Jackson is a very, very good one.
Your picture is a very, very good one.
What an amazing match-up and even more so due to the organic way it came to fruition:
(1) Jones completely dominates & submits the very talented Ryan Bader (2) Rashad simultaneously injures his knee & officially w/draws from title fight THAT very day (3) Rampage then turns down title fight offer (4 very valid reasons) & Jonny "Bones" receives & subsequently accepts a title fight w/ Shogun Rua. Couldn't write a better script. "Bones" has the biggest challenge of his career to date in the very experienced, strategic & talented Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. Shogun is a rare delivery device 4 the type of unbridled violence that MMA fans love so much.I first noticed "Bones" fight Andre Gusmao & thought his youth, grappling, striking & overall inexperience were not as evident as they should've been & was immediately intrigued. After going thru O' Brien & Bonnar the most significant factor was how much he had progressed in (3) fights! Once his total destruction & manhandling of the brutally strong wrestler,Matt Hammill, I was POSITIVE that my initial instincts were correct...he's going to become the biggest star the UFC has ever seen. He will continue 2 bring a level of creativity & hyper-technical striking that has yet to exist in the sport. Being a giant LHW, I predict he will clean out all competition in LHW division over the next 2-3 yrs & will move up to HW once his "Man-strength" develops which is traditionally late 20's/early 30's.
Some MM-A-holes will always call it "nut-jockin" or "riding a hype-train" but I base my theory on a wide array of evidence including his youth, fight record, method of victory, level of dominance in said victory, quality of opponents, my own personal experience interviewing & seeing him train and finally, what other ACTUAL fighters believe from their experiences w/ him. Don't get me wrong, Shogun can win this fight. I think he needs to go after him right away ala' Chael vs Spider. Run at this kid & show him who he's in the cage against. If Shogun were to defeat Jones, I still believe he will become everything I stated above. Fighters like Jones are special and come back even better after a loss and at the young age of 23, he'll be shocking people for the next 10 yrs win or lose against Shogun