i really like this kid for thos guys who say hes boring and shit do smothing about it. same thing with gsp no one can do something about it! wrestlig is the shit!
Let me tell ya something bud, I was a long time wrestler and Maynard is a BORE. wrestling has NOTHING to do with the guy being a bore!
In this fight like most of his fights, he does practically nothing out of fear of getting caught. He literally walks around and stalls hoping his opponent comes at him in frustration so he can counter. There is nothing wrong with using the counter puncher role as a form in fighting BUT there has to be action and Maynard is ALWAYS reluctant to fight. Always trying for the eeeked out win!
Also, Maynard's personality is terrible. He is dry and dull and when he does try to spice things up it comes across as awkward. Just look at his weird exchange with Hawanni in this clip. He was trying to be funny by making a comparison to Hawanni and Florian it just came off as weird and akward to watch.
...and another thing, I kind of knew the person Maynard was when back in the TUF finals he briefly knocked himself out when he slammed his opponent but went on to cry about how that never happened.
Maynard has skills to be a very exciting fighter. he just doesn't use them.
If this is what we expect to be the future of MMA I am out of here, take down your opponent and controlling him on the ground is not fighting, you can not compared GSP to this guy, GSP can **** you up standing he just choses to take it to ground where ****s you up too or submits you even when he have finish fight lately it is not because he is not trying but just because his last opponents are tough, I mean Hardy almost lost his arm there and Thiago was gettin hurt so bad, I do not even know how Maynard got this tittle shot with a controversial dec against Diaz and a split dec. against Huerta, give him some real JJ guy and let see how that goes...
Whrite a book! and im not your bud. you cant take away that gray is a good fighter and none of his opponents have the skillz to deal what he is doing to them including edgar!
Maynard is a smart fighter. Sometimes that is boring. Sometimes its not. Sonnen wrestled for 4 and a half rounds but worked the whole time against Silva. Didn't hurt him much but his desire to work was there. Maynard's not like that. He is conservative which to most is boring. I don't think people think he is a bad fighter for it. Just boring.
Yea Sonnen wrestled and worked and ultimately thats what led to him gettin sub'd. Thats wats good about Gray, he has his gameplan and he will stick with that gameplan. No wana be wigger throwing his hands up will make him change pace. It may be boring but he uses skills and a gameplan that GSP and Fitch use, no one can stop what hes got no matter how boring.
A lot of technical fighters, especially wrestlers, come across as "boring" because of their skill set, and how they approach game plans and fights. Let's face it, some fights are visually boring to the fan who is sitting on the sofa drinking a beer and not in the cage working his A** off. To some fans, watching these chess matches are intriguing. Fans who "get it" are either "A" a fighter themselves who understands how difficult fighting like this is, or "B" a more educated fan who can appreciate the more technical matches that are not just flying fists and highlight reel knockouts. We all love to see those, but it's just not the reality of MMA fighting all the time.
Of course that's what's good about him. He better win if he has a boring style. If you're boring and you lose, you're cut pretty quick from the UFC. To some though the wrestling is very entertaining. I would have to disagree about GSP though. He constantly passes guards, strikes, and goes for subs while on the ground. He doesn't just get control wins.
BS man no offense but GSP is a boring mutha ****ing fighter, just like Fitch, i had no prob with GSP when he was knocking people out, but im guna say if im picking a boring fighter out of the three its def Maynard. Atleast he isnt like Fitch who after the Alvez fight he said "I tried to finish it multiple times just couldnt" thats BS to he didnt try, and in my opinion which many will disagree, Edgars style against BJ is boring because he doesnt try to finish he just stick and move stick and move its boring, but GO MAYNARD, hope he kicks Edgars ass!!!
I like anyone that can mix in takedowns with their striking and are always active thats why i like the way Edgar GSP and Sonnen fight but Maynard is just terrible. And if GSP is the worst of the list at "LnP" or "being a blanket" then at least we know what hes capable of, he has really good stand up while Maynard just sits back for 4 minutes like a little scared puppy in the 1st round and gets the takedown, then does the same scared awkward thing for 3 minutes in the 2nd, then the 3rd round he did it for 2 minutes.......I hope Frankie floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee again, but this time on Maynard
I understand how you can think GSP is boring. Like I said some people like it and some don't. I actually hate the "lay and pray" that is taking over. There is a reason that phrase was made and it wasn't good haha. I for one like people with a ground game though. I like watching transitions and people improving positions. I hate when fighters are content to stay in someones guard and avoid damage just because they got points for a takedown.
Yea i feel you dude, some people love grappling but most are not fans so i mean i guess its a pick your poison kinda thing, but me personally im a fan as long as the top or bottom is moving or showing some sign of finishing the fight like Maynard pounding Florian when he was pinned against the cage, or GSP trying the submissions against Hardy, but now Jon Fitch hes boring as shit, GSP is boring as hell but Fitch is boring as SHIT, theres a big difference, i hope Maynard finishes Edgar and proves his critics wrong but either way im pulling for him.
Just gonna say GSP isnt the worst of the lay n pray list that is no doubt in anyones mind is Jon Fitch haha, but i mean one of the ways you got to look at why you dont like Maynard's style is that if hes sitting back and waiting for the takedown the other person is waiting for him to do something so they dont try to push the pace, Florian didnt even try to strike or push the pace like he claims he loves to do so why hate on Maynard only hate on Florian to he didnt push the pace at all...
Kenny did push it, he was chasing him 75% if the time but Florian should have went balls out after the 1st round cuz he knew Maynard was gonna do what he did again. So yes part of the blame is Kenny not just going in there and trying something instead of regretting it later when he did push hard enough. Side note....Maynard sucks =]
How can you say Maynard sucks? He beat some of the best he even beat the current champ who beat the best light weight ever twice. I dont like GSP or Fitch but they dont suck they could certainly beat the shit of me you just dont like his style but its all good hel have the gold around his waist soon so idc, and Florian did the same thing go back and watch he was ducking punches and backing up everytime Maynard throws a punch so apparently Kenny's mind wasnt set for this fight he was to worried about Gray, so apparently Gray is the real deal goooooooooo MAYNARD!!!
Maynard will never be the real deal. Hes not well rounded enough. Edgar is a much more complete fighter then Maynard. And thats why im rooting for Edgar now, he can keep a crazy pace, one which Maynard will never be able to keep up with. Edgar will put this guy away
yeah exactly I'm always saying: if a wrestler is able to implement his "lay and pray" strategy and his opponent can't do anything about well got for the wrestler, that's part of MMA and always will be.
I'm excited for maynard vs. edgar
Gosh I dislike guys that talk crap about knocking people out or submitting people and never actually try to do it.... I am going to be SO happy when someone beats this guy
maybe a comment about how Kenny will be a tough opponent to finish or sumthing like that but besides the given comments not much shit tlakin from Gray and more comin from Kenny who lost.
Gray was saying that he sees Kenny laying on the floor unconcious then later he's like I'm gonna knock him out or submit him
Yet no attempt at either
Every punch i believe a fighter throws can be a KO punch. Just sayin i doubt a punch s thrown to improve the opponents positiona nd not their own. But hey Gray beat the guy who appearantly "Finishes fights", hey no skin off my nose, chalk another win up and give him that gold baby.
Yawn. Boring, boring, boring grinder....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I adamantly defend wrestling, but this guy makes my stomach turn. Why this guy? Because he has no mma skills outside of wrestling. Most wrestlers have additional skill sets, but he has nothing. This is not the same guy as GSP, Evans, etc. Also, he seems delusional here... He says Florian likes to "move in and out and steal them." What in the hell is he talking about? In his thirteen wins, Kenny has ONE decision victory!! Then Maynard goes on to describe his performance out there as "move off, punch-punch, move off".... This guy is off his meds!! He stood outside and just waited. Thats it. I am not saying this as an excuse for Kenny flopping as usual either. I also agree with capjo, Maynard's attitude in his first fight was very telling. He was obviously knocked out, but even when presented with the replay, which clearly showed he was unconscious, he continued to argue with Rogan and the officials.
i like maynard i think he has good skills and he seems to be a decent guy, but after i seen edgars performance last night i dont think he will win, yeah he beat him before but i dont think edgar is the same fighter
i know that getting hit in the head can effect your brain and speech but jesus, what has happened to him. He can hardly complete a sentence.
Reminds me of Forrest Gump...
I think Gray is pretty good, and pretty funny. Obviously the fight last night wasn't that entertaining to a lotta people. But I didn't think Frankie's win was as entertaining either. Yeah, both wins are impressive, because of who they are pulling it off against. And yeah, Frankie's win was more impressive, but I do think the bully can beat him again. You gotta be a better wrestler than Frankie, and he handled him last time. Frankie hasn't changed as much as they say. He's great on his feet now but his biggest asset was the survival on the ground. And just barely escaping those bad spots, mount and losing his back. Great win cuz of who he did it too. But I still think Bj can beat almost everyone in the division. And I think Gray will beat Frankie again. It's the styles that will change the fight totally from the fights we saw last night. could be a boring title fight if their wrestling is too evenly matched. But who knows. Could be a real war. I expect Gray to repeat his performance as well.
Plus, maybe Gray wasn't so funny in this interview, but he's usually not bad. The one with Amir Sadallah a while ago was funny imo. Whatever though. We are all fans of whoever we are fans of.
dude this guy is such a deuche. he has 1 finish in the UFC and it wasnt even that impressive. he decisions his way to victory. and not even like Edgar decisions, he just flat out wrestles guys, and hes completely boring doing it, its so painful to watch and i really hope this facking human snooze fest isnt LW champ anytime soon.
Its a sad day when Grinders are the champs of the most exciting divison in MMA.