Frank Mir warns Roy Nelson: I hit a lot harder than Junior dos Santos

no you dont...

haha beat me to it

mir is slower with less hand speed, less combinations and no way as agile as dos santos. Mir has always been so full of himself but since beating tim in 48 to get the belt he has been off the pace off what id consider the top guys.

I think Mir in his prime, before he got into the motorcycle accident was on a rampage destroying anyone in his way and if that fortunate accident didn't occur im sure you would see Mir doing all what he claims he can achieve.

I think he might hit harder now after training to bigger guys and getting bigger himself he lost alot of speed and has never been fast but as in hitting harder I can believe that... not maybe not harder than Dos Santos

doeshe have it in him to KO his buddy or just restle around and have him tap

where does mir think of this stuff? dos santos would fold mir in half like he did werdum? big country could potentially ko mir....?

Frank is becoming the HW chael sonnen / michael bisping.. as far as his mouth goes.. at least those two mentioned above win fights when they talk sh**

Frank mir is a smart guy but that is probably one of the dumbest things he has said.

Yes, smart and articulate. He needs to savvy his game up tho.. Hit's harder with his drunk man lunging 1 - 3's

I agree. I think if anyone is getting knocked out in this fight, it's mir.

I think considering Nelson's own power and Mir's notoriously porous chin this is a distinct possibility.

carwin hits harder

It must be opposite day

I went all the way to the bottom, read everybodys comment...tried to comment on some of them and couldnt..i tried typin something and i couldnt find the words!!! Im baffled by mir right now....His head must be up his ass for warmth!!!

I dont think its about who hits harder. Im sure those uppercuts and hooks JDS were throwing at Roys head were pretty damn lethal, i just think Roys gotta good chin, or a thick skull, which makes since cause hes so ****y ahaha. Mir just needs to shhhhh before he gets himself in a bad positiion.

This is to the guy above me who talks shit about my fav fighter..I hate you and i hope you die!!!!

reamins to be seen

If he doesnt put away Nelson and JDS puts away Carwin....then Mir may have to eat his words

I say him a JDS make a bet if one gets the KO and the other dont one has to eat a white dog shit >:D

my prediction is Nelson wins by Unanimous Decision

mine too

give or take they are equally skilled, just that i've been more impressed with Nelson's last 2 fights as opposed to Mir's last 2

Weak me all you want, Nelson is way better than Mir on the ground, Nelson has owned Mir on more than one occasion grappling. I'd give the slight edge to Mir in the standup, but Nelson is tougher and has a better chin.

I don't believe Mir has better striking than Dos Santos but I think he should win this fight by unanimous decision. Nelson has proven to be a great figter for someone who's out of shape but until he starts upping his conditioning he's always going to be that dude who stands in front and absorbs punches with his belly and throw a hard hook every now and then. Whether Mir uses speed and stamina to his advantage or not remains to be seen but I definitely don't see the fight going to the ground.

I think that slight edge could be the deciding factor. Both love to stand and bang so that's where I see the fight staying. Frank is pretty technical so I see him winning it there. Not many people are talking about Roy knocking out Frank which could possibly happen too.

I'm with Mir having a slight edge in the standup, with Nelson being tougher, and undoubtedly having the better chin. I don't think Nelson is "way better" on the ground though.



I think that's an interesting matchup with Nelson being better positionally, and having more smothering top control (especially if he can pass guard and get his big belly on top of someone's chest). I think Mir has a more dynamic ground game though. He's probably got a more threatening guard, and he can definitely pull some submissions from different angles. I wouldn't be surprised if Mir caught a leglock or a choke from any number of positions. I would probably favor Mir on the ground a little.



I think if Nelson wins it will most likely come by decision, but if it shakes out on the ground I think it'll be a razor thin decision. Nelson also has a shot at the knockout, as I mentioned above.

This is the video I've seen as well, and it was indeed a close match.

how is getting your guard passed and being underneath someone a close match, i saw them fight with my own eyes at grapplers quest, weak me some more

underneath the whole time*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dj5xMeXybs

that's the video I'm talking about, and I think edub too. I thought it was fairly close, especially the first half. Certainly not enough to say that Nelson is "way better" on the ground. I would also make the case that Frank is in better shape now, and Nelson is probably in worse shape. And chill, I didn't weak you any, I generally think you have well thought out and insightful comments.

Roy is pretty technical as well. Its just that when his cardio runs out like it did in the JDS fight itll be nothing but haymaker after haymaker hoping for a connection.

Mir you punch like aaaa BITCH!!

hits harder then i do.... so does that make me a baby back bitch? :(

I think Mir takes this fight based on his athletisim. Im under no illusion that Roy Nelson is an overweight sloppy fighter. I simply believe that Mir is going to be faster in their scrambles and quicker to gain dominant postions. All in all it will be a good fight but I give the edge to Mir.

He deff doesnt hit harder than JDS lol and I highly doubt he'll be champ again.

Either this talk is just for promoting the bout or Mir is clearly delusional and shows that he still has a lot to learn. In terms of striking, more than strength is the technique that counts. Ofc we cant count out strength but the way you throw a strike, the precision, the movement, the technique you aply is more important than the strength itself. If he thinks that, only because he gained weight that he has more KO power, he is clearly mistaken...



We all seen what JDS can do with his strikes, we all saw how he throws and his precise technique (for instance, watch how he teaches on the Ultimate Fighter and you'll see his technique), we know his pedigree and his Knock Outs in previous fights and we know that he trains with the striking artist that is "The Spider" - clearly Mir doesn know what is saying...



Oh and btw, saying that he is quicker than JDS is just silly. JDS is quicker, more agile and athletic. The mere fact he beat Brock in a football contest and showcase is athletic skills as he did, is prove to that (was it a Soccer match, something that JDS knew well and Brock dont, Brock would loose by a obscene margin). You cant be bigger and still be more athletic: you gain mass to gain strength but you loose speed and agility.



Mir is a good fighter, top 10 heavyweight in my opinion, but hes delusional here thats for sure!

Ask Brock if you can be massive and be quicker, faster, more agile.

You can be "massive" and still quick but I assure you if brock lost weight or mass, he would be quicker and more agile, its not a matter of opinion its how physics work on the human body. Brock is almost a unique specimen thou, not many 300 pounders can move as he does but he would still benefit (in terms of speed or agility) if he was less heavyer.



Mir is not like him thou, hes a guy that has been gainning muscle and body mass so he can be up there with the new "breed" of massive HW. He aint quicker or more agile than JDS thats a fact, nor he has better technique and more KO power. He can talk the talk but untill he starts blasting opponents left and right as Cigano does, it wiill be just talk...

I think Frank needs to keep this one standing, as mentioned Roy as had the better of Frank in grappling competition. If Frank can produce the sort of stand up performance he used against Big Nog then it is more than likely that he will take a decision victory. I don't see Roy getting knocked out, but I would say Frank could be knocked out if Roy catches him with a big right.



I like and respect both of these fighters and look forward to the match.

Mir aint faster than dos santos nor does he hit harder,

but he has definitely a strength advantage and a bit faster than roy,

but mas a hella lot of power also, he destroyed kongo with one punch (who wasnt much effected by about 80 punches from cain) and he ruined big nogs chin

That chin was gone long ago. RIP Nog's chin.

There is a difference between straight grappling and grappling in an mma bout. MMA bouts give the fighter more to think about due to the striking aspect. Therefore, just because Roy beat him in a grappling match doesnt mean he will in MMA.

Frank deserves a little more respect around here in my opinion. He's confident and always seems ready for a fight. Hope he takes this one.

I agree jap!

I agree as well jap but he kinda sorta pushed the bull shit meter over the edge on this one....JUST A TAD!!!!

Oh come on I'm sure their power is pretty close haha!

Just as long as Mir doesn't just lean on him on the side of the cage for the whole fight like his last two boring as fights!!

Mir hits harder than JDS, that's just plain funny, period.

Where does Mir get this stuff? I mean has he fought JDS or seen him and even trained with JDS to know how hard he actually hit? When it comes to HW all of them has knock out power that's why people go out an watch HW fights cause there is a great chance of someone getting knock the F*CK out...

hahhahahahah

every time mir opens his mouth he makes himself look like a bigger ass then he already is

Too bad he cant take as well as he gives.

Mir might have something here. He is bigger than Dos Santos. And I never really thought of Dos Santos as a "power" striker. Hes a very SMART and TECHNICAL striker. Which, in my opinion, is even more dangerous. If Carwin can knock out Mir by just throwing punches what can Cigano do by technically picking him apart round by round.



But I do believe Mir will win this fight. Hes due. Mir always seems to win a couple fights after being knocked out cold.

Frank you don't even hit harder than Roy.

lol ohhhhhhhhhh frank. i love frank mir as a fighter but sometimes he's alil too confident(borders on arrogance alil). but the only positive here is that he'll come out confident. he'll prolly come out really fast n agressive considering his last fight was super boring. He'll be wanteing to make a statement. Frank Mir by broken arm 2nd round :)

I just cant help but look at the title of this post and laugh... ahhh so funny

No one blows smoke up their own ass like Mir.

This will be a ground fight.

Uh, no Frank. JDS has 8 knockout victories. You have 3! And you've been knocked out 5 times. Nelson is going to make it 6.

Roy nelson: Frank, I eat a lottt more than cro cop.

Hmmm I think not frank.

ok so lets put mir and junior in a boxing match and see what happens.

If Junior Dos Santos cant knockout Roy Nelson i just cant see Frank pulling that one off. I have been proven wrong in the past though.

hhahahah ur dreamin mir JDS hits twice as hard as you bud ... hope JDS gets that title soon

he won't.. Cain is going to be champ for a while until they decide to give overeem his shot but he's a winner.

Sports Science has proved that GSP has the strongest punch and kick. What are you going to do about Mur?