Frank Mir wants Brendan Schaub next, calls fight with Brock Lesnar irrelevant
Posted on November 10, 2010, 09:27 AM by Daniel Cassidy"(A fight against Brock Lesnar) Honestly right now, probably no. Just because the (Shane) Carwin fight, (Lesnar) didn't look all that spectacular. I think a lot of people might have thought that he lost that fight. And then the (Cain) Velasquez fight obviously, Velasquez made (Brock) basically shout 'Stop, Enough, Enough' before he tapped due to strikes and that looked really bad."
"Right now I’m coming a win off of Mirko (Cro Cop), I would maybe like to see me get another win and (Brock) himself redeem himself, so that way it's more relevant to the division. Not just having the third fight for the sake of having the third fight. But having it to where it actually has some substance so that whoever wins will position themselves for a title shot. I think it has a lot more meaning that way."
"Roy Nelson is coming off a loss right now, but Brendan Schaub looked very good against Gabriel Gonzaga. That would be a fight, as far as trying to move forward to solidify myself for a title shot."
Never one to hold his tongue, Former Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir offers his thoughts on Brock Lesnar's recent loss. Mir it seems is against a possible rubber match with Brock, at least for now. Lesnar himself also recently claimed to have turned down a possible third fight with his nemesis. Both fighters are on level terms, with Mir forcing Lesnar to tap out at UFC 81, and Brock taking his revenge in a TKO win at UFC 100. Mir is currently 5-2 is his last 7, losing only to Brock and Shane Carwin.
As Mir looks towards his next fight, it would appear he has his sights set on upcoming Heavyweight and TUF 10 runner up, Brendan Schaub. Schaub also recently expressed a desire to face Mir, and it would appear both could be about to get their wish.
What do you think, LowKick'ers? Who will Mir Fight next? Who will Lesnar face off against? And do you want to see the long awaited rubber match between the two?
Source: Bloody Elbow
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frank is annoying, i would like to see him fight schaub though.
I kinda agree with Mir on not wanting to fight Brock....this will give Brock the chance to fight other fighters in the division and improve his skills against opponents like Nelson, Kongo maybe Carwin again
I agree. It would be silly for 3 of Lesnar's 7 UFC fights to be against the same guy.
I don't like Brock much but I really think Mir is scared to lose to Brock again and get taken out of the picture. His fight with Mirco wasn't anything amazing and Mirco clearly's not the same fighter he used to be.
Haha damn I never thought about that.
Brendan Schaub doesn't qualify to make Frank Mir a sandwich!!!!!!
Brock is by no means irrelevant now but the matchup between Mir and Schaub would be great. Both have pretty slick hands, Mir Obviously has the advantage on the ground (but so did Gonzaga) and we havent really seen Schaub fight off his back yet.
If you watch his run during TUF 10 and the finally, Schaub does well off his back and manages to get back to his feet, even managed to do that against Big Country.
i think the fights with carwin and velasquez dont affest how lesnar mir 3 would turn out...lesnar really has mirs number, and i honestly think hed smash mir again
in order Nelson, then Shaub.
ur the worst! lil chump off!
lol mir ! better take that pic of him heel hookn lesnar and keep it on his wall! and cherish it for the rest of his life!
I like those 2 fights for Mir.
Typical ****iness from Mir. I'd like to see Schaub kick his ass. Saying that Lesnar is irrelevant just proves again how obsessed Mir still is with him. I'm sure Mir still lays awake at night with visions of Lesnar beating the crap out of him.
That's C*OCKINESS, or to be C*OCKY, now that we are being censored.
I think you read the quote wrong - I cant see where he calls Lesnar irrelevant. He says a match up between him and lesnar would be irrelevent to division right now.
thats appauling language. go wash your mouth out with toilet duck immediately
I have to agree with Azzer. He is ****y but I don't think he was meaning for that statement to come off like that.
I respect Mir as a fighter and typically think of myself as a Mir fan, but sometimes he makes it tough... Its already been confirmed that Brock did not submit, verbally or otherwise. Furthermore, I expect big things from Schaub, but for Mir to pretend that he is more relevant than Brock in the grand scheme of things just sounds a bit odd. Personally, I do not want to see Lesnar-Mir III either, but Brock is still one fight removed from being the Heavyweight champion and his next opponent will be in a great position with a victory over him.
totaly agree with you. mir vs lesnar 3 should not happen any time soon, i think brock would beat mir again the same way he did in the second fight, i'd like to see them coach on tuf 14 or 15, i think that would be a great season, but i doubt if brock would do it.
i think that mir just doesnt want to be brocks come back fight thats all, he knows that brock can beat him again. but yeah i would like to see schuab/mir fight since they called each other out it should be interesting and i got schuab winning that one.
I think Schaub's speed would be a real problem for Mir. He can easily do what Frankie did to Penn but with a lot more power. I would actually pick Schaub over Mir as the upset
I hope the fight wouldn't play out like that but I could see that as well.
I just dont think Schuab has met someone who can sub you that quick if you leave an opening.
I love how Frank Mir's logic is so ridiculously flawed. After he lost to Lesnar he said it was his size and strength that hurt him. Then when he lost to Carwin he said it was his wrestling that was the problem. He is great at making excuses for losing and now he is saying that a fight with Schaub will help solidify a title shot!! I hope Mir does get a fight with Schaub and gets embarrassed, then we can all wait for another lame excuse for why he lost.
Brock would do exactly what he done to mir in the second fight if they were to meet again. Mir is the heayvweight Paruysian for excuses. Its pathetic. A win over Brock for Mir would throw him immediately into title contention...asking for Schaub next puts him another win at least should he get past schaub before title contention. Brock has looked shaky and t times amatuer in his last two fights but the guy has come from a life threatenting illness and thrown straight back in against in my eyes the two best heavyweights in the ufc. Frank is a ****ing idiot for saying brock is irrelevant. Brock has less than a fraction of the experience of mir yet he rag dolled mir at ufc 100. Personally im not in favour of a rubber mach between these two, id rather see mir vs nelson and a rematch of lesnar n carwin when they bot get fit n ready to get back into the octagon.
The funny this is that Mir is kind of the irrelavent one right now, there are about 4-5 guys hes could fight and they all have a good shot at beating him
I think he would have the same good shot at beating them too.
Mir vs Schaub and Brock vs Nelson
Mir. vs Carwin. Schaub ain't good enough. After Carwin title shot.
IDK if fighting schaub is really gonna help push Mir up the ladder, i think if Mir gets another solid win over someone he should be in line for a title shot, and plus I think Mir would match up really well against Cain, as Cain is one of the smaller HW's, Mir would have the reach and height advantage, and definitely the all round BJJ advantage. Cain will have the wrestling and speed but i could see Frank stuffin the takedowns of Cain as he doesnt possess the strength or mass of Lesnar or Carwin
I reckon the UFC should set up Mir vs Dos Santos,as in my eyes i wasnt impressed by JDS in his last fight, Nelson is tough but Junior seemed like he had poor conditioning, and he's still untested on the ground, he has amazing hands though....
but in the mean time i think brock should fight Nelson, Schaub or Kongo etc to get him some more experience and cage time, and maybe by that time we could see Carwin back, with possible rematches with Mir or Lesnar....
all in all Mir vs JDS makes sense, as Junior's performance against Roy was less than convincing, and either was Mir vs Cro Cop they're both coming off wins though and I see the winner definitely deserving a shot, while Carwin recovers, and Brock gets some more experience
Yeah at this point Mir - Lesnar III isn't relevant, and I agree with Frank that it should happen later down the road when there is substance to it..... although UFC are probably looking at it from a business perspective, and it would sell, but when Mir lost he had to start at the back of the line in the HW division and so should Lesnar - plus I think it would be more beneficial to Lesnar as he needs the experience and it would give him time to improve his all round game
cain has better stand up than mir and he could do what brock did to mir in the second fight, take him down hold him down and punch his face in.
Mir-Schaub is a good fight
out it on the card with Lesner-Nelson
with the winner facing
the winner of Carwin-TBA
and that winner getting a title shot
Too bad Werdum is not still employed by the UFC .. as that would be a nice matchup for Mir.
Mir vs Nelson would be entertaining ..
they had a great grappling battle years back and seemed evenly matched on the ground.
http://www.lowkick.com/UFC/Frank-Mir-vs-Roy-Nelson-Grappling-Video
As for Lesnar i would go with a rematch with Carwin.
That link for Mir vs Nelson is not working.
Watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPTgegc19lY
Schaub kills Mir
im a fan of franks,
but i think he should fight nelson 2 prove 2 every1 that nelson is title worthy, he tapped mir out in practice so let every1 see that big country should be in the pound 4 pound rankings.
if mir wins, give him cain and watch cain run thru him,
he needs to drastically work on his striking if he wants 2 run with cain.
oh yeah....... u guys rock the house!
you have to think in theb\ back of your mind that frank doesnt want the fight with brock again because of what happened in the last fight with his face being pounded to mush. it would totally destroy his career if he lost to brock again
Mir, who I don't really care for, was NOT saying Brock is "irrelevant" as Cassidy would have us believe via the title of this "article." If you actually read AND comprehend the statement from Mir, it's clear he's saying the fight, not a particular fighter, would not be relevant right now for reasons stated.
Very bush league kid.
Bush league retracted given your correction to the title.
ohhhh now Mir doesn't want to fight Brock after he loses the belt?!?!? What a bunch of sh*t. This is coming from the same guy who couldn't sleep at night because he was obsessed with Brock. He doesnt wanna fight Brock now cuz he think Brock looks weak after losing the belt. But ya kno what??? Brock would prolly beat Mir a third time. Who the f*ck does Mir think he is to be saying who should fight?! he got destroyed by Carwin and his performance against Cro Cop was utter crap. Mir is one big d-bag that should get destroyed by Schaub and pumped to another league....like Bellator or something
to correct myself....i mean Mir would get beaten in a third fight...not for a third time.
Mir doesn't belong in the UFC? Ridiculous.
Make it happen.
i agree with everyones comments mir vs schaub would be a very good fight but i think mir should face cain velasquez first before he says ne thing about brocks fight with him anyone who faces cain will likely have the same thing happen to them
Mir is such a smug prick, every quote I read or interview I see he just has to be just a little bit snide, a bit disrespectful to his oppenent, he did it to noguiera he did it to crop cop, and then he goes on about how bad brock looked in his last two fights... Brock Whooped Mirs ass, and so did Carwin, this guy should learn how to shut the **** up
mir would be monster if he would learn to wrestle better
My favorite thing about Mir is that he is a smug prick, much prefer that to most of the other fighters. And regardless of how he comes off he is still right that Brock vs Mir 3 is an irrelevant match up right now.
Shaub aint ready for Mir at this moment of his career