guaranteed jon jones ratted out greg jackson on the no fight camp member thingy. thats why dana said rashad first to try and through us off. JONES UR A SNAKE!
bisbing has got to be one lucky fighter, when he steps up he loses, and the ufc gives him easy fights. if he wasnt a brit he wouldnt be fightin co main events
Its kind of odd that drug usage, money laundering, spitting on opponents & illegal knee's will get certain folks a lil slap on the hand, but A.S. taunting Maia.....ah forget it, but he is right about fighters doing what they got 2 do to take care of there family. What happened 2 C.Kongo
Dana is again backing off the GSP vs Silva fight by saying that now Okami might fight Silva first. He keeps saying there are a bunch of stars that need to line up to make this happen, but all that really needs to happen is GSP needs to beat Shields, and then Dana lines up GSP vs Silva. 1 hurdle, that is all.
It was also a whole lot of words to convey a simple message, which is, this fight is probably not going to happen; at least not in the foreseeable future - 2 to 3 years.
My view of it - is that GSP has quietly and consistently been throwing darts at DW's trial balloons. White is correct when he says that GSP has never turned down a fight (nor AS for that matter), but those are fights within his division; not up a division.
I have no doubt in my mind, that GSP would take the fight @ 185, given that he as moved up in weight properly and acclimated his mind, body and nervous system to the challenge; and it is a challenge. GSP is far too consummate a professional to get sucked into some mind-F##K and accept a fight that he is not prepared for, simply because the "boss" or some other fighter is running his mouth and egging him on to do so. That would be pretty stupid.
It would also be very childish and GSP is no child. He has "nothing" and I mean "nothing" to prove, for he has already proven it. He is hands down, the most dominant and accomplished fight that 170 has ever seen. He is also the most successful fighter in The UFC in terms of promotions, endorsements and accolades. He is quite literally the "face" of The UFC (in terms of fighters). He is the poster boy. He is not going to throw all that away to give someone, even Dana, a cheap thrill.
No - GSP is more than happy making his millions, running 170, being the golden boy and God love him for doing so. How many of us would put all that on the line, to satisfy the intellectual curiosity of a crowd? None, would be my guess.
If the fight happens - it won't happen until GSP is ready to retire and then maybe even, not. If he runs takes no losses over the next two or three years, continues to run the division in dominant fashion...why put all that on the line and "possibly" take a high-light reel loss at the end of it? Particularly if the fight is against the greatest stand-up fighter (maybe) of all time.
GSP is not stupid and Dana is now trying to find ways to take his foot out of his mouth and not sound like a babbling idiot, all while backing away from his...this is going to happen, attitude. For, the only way the fight happens now...is at a catch-weight; a non-title fight. GSP might bight at that. And then DW might be able to have his cake and eat it, too; minus the foot.
your wrong about the same division anderson has been offered fights at 205 and took them and won..with that being said yeah gsp needs to prove nothing he has done and continues to dominate his division why leave and risk it all so if he loses he not only loses the belt but people will be talking mad shit
I'm not sure GSP's legacy would be threatened by a loss to Anderson (at least, not a completely 1-sided loss). Consider BJ Penn and his move up to fight GSP at WW. Most people still consider BJ to be the best LW of all time, regardless of his losses at WW against GSP. At the time it was a fight between two of the top p4p fighters in the world, and even though GSP won, BJ was still revered as the most dominant LW ever.
I think GSP vs Silva NEEDS to happen (at least at a catch-weight). If the only reason for GSP to not fight Silva is because there is too much risk, then we can begin to welcome MMA into the disgraceful world of boxing. As long as GSP is given ample time to prepare for a fight against the only p4p fighter ranked higher than him, this fight cannot possibly be dispraised.
My overall point was - I don't think it's going to happen, now. I think GSP has been dumping water on this for a while, now and DW has finally accepted it and is trying to find a way to save face; so to speak.
I think (and they spoke of) a "catch" is the only way they could have this fight in the near-term and perhaps, ever. Again, I'd have to wonder why, after dominating for X years, that GSP, at the end of his career, would say....#### it...I'll go up, fight Anderson and probably get my head handed to me...it would be a great way to close out the highlight reel for my career, when they are inducting me into "whatever" Hall of Fame; UFC, MMA, Canadian Sports ect.
No - I just don't see that happening. He's too smart and it would be a stupid move. Go out on top, man; be the movie.
To me - I'd like to see it now (post Shields, given GSP wins) and at catch, but not at the end of his career; as a last fight. At least if he loses now, he would still have many opportunities left to fight, win and continue on; without having DW F-up his career.
Well technically, I didn't quote you saying 'legacy', but it sounded like that may be the only thing at stake if you think about it. It won't change his status in the WW division - he would still be WW champ (includes sponsorships, recognition, $$). So I don't think he is really putting all that much on the line. However, if you take into consideration his move to MW being permanent, then I see the risk involved. At a catch-weight though, perhaps he wouldn't move to MW anyway and could continue to dominate the cleared-out WW division. He could still go out on top: as the best WW of all time - which is where he stands now. He isn't considered the top p4p fighter in the world, so that title isn't at risk.
We both know GSP is going to crush Shields, but what we don't know is whether or not Dana is going to go through with pushing for the superfight. We should lay this argument to rest simply because it seems so speculative at this moment.
Bisping's punishment was "not getting a bonus" ???? Are you f*cking serious??? that fight was not even worth it of any kind of bonuses... since bisping and dana suck each others d*ck its obvious that there is no real punishment...
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penis
sure youve seen plenty
i think dana used that t shirt in the other interview with him about buying strikeforce!!!
guaranteed jon jones ratted out greg jackson on the no fight camp member thingy. thats why dana said rashad first to try and through us off. JONES UR A SNAKE!
And how do you know this?
dana bullshit faf F...
bisbing has got to be one lucky fighter, when he steps up he loses, and the ufc gives him easy fights. if he wasnt a brit he wouldnt be fightin co main events
Its kind of odd that drug usage, money laundering, spitting on opponents & illegal knee's will get certain folks a lil slap on the hand, but A.S. taunting Maia.....ah forget it, but he is right about fighters doing what they got 2 do to take care of there family. What happened 2 C.Kongo
Vera backs the UFC should ship him over to strikeforce i'd love to see him fight mousassi
Dana is again backing off the GSP vs Silva fight by saying that now Okami might fight Silva first. He keeps saying there are a bunch of stars that need to line up to make this happen, but all that really needs to happen is GSP needs to beat Shields, and then Dana lines up GSP vs Silva. 1 hurdle, that is all.
i love the one our earlier have to agree with dana on that one.
by the way, helwani should do all the interviews in mma
Wow - that was diplomatic.
It was also a whole lot of words to convey a simple message, which is, this fight is probably not going to happen; at least not in the foreseeable future - 2 to 3 years.
My view of it - is that GSP has quietly and consistently been throwing darts at DW's trial balloons. White is correct when he says that GSP has never turned down a fight (nor AS for that matter), but those are fights within his division; not up a division.
I have no doubt in my mind, that GSP would take the fight @ 185, given that he as moved up in weight properly and acclimated his mind, body and nervous system to the challenge; and it is a challenge. GSP is far too consummate a professional to get sucked into some mind-F##K and accept a fight that he is not prepared for, simply because the "boss" or some other fighter is running his mouth and egging him on to do so. That would be pretty stupid.
It would also be very childish and GSP is no child. He has "nothing" and I mean "nothing" to prove, for he has already proven it. He is hands down, the most dominant and accomplished fight that 170 has ever seen. He is also the most successful fighter in The UFC in terms of promotions, endorsements and accolades. He is quite literally the "face" of The UFC (in terms of fighters). He is the poster boy. He is not going to throw all that away to give someone, even Dana, a cheap thrill.
No - GSP is more than happy making his millions, running 170, being the golden boy and God love him for doing so. How many of us would put all that on the line, to satisfy the intellectual curiosity of a crowd? None, would be my guess.
If the fight happens - it won't happen until GSP is ready to retire and then maybe even, not. If he runs takes no losses over the next two or three years, continues to run the division in dominant fashion...why put all that on the line and "possibly" take a high-light reel loss at the end of it? Particularly if the fight is against the greatest stand-up fighter (maybe) of all time.
GSP is not stupid and Dana is now trying to find ways to take his foot out of his mouth and not sound like a babbling idiot, all while backing away from his...this is going to happen, attitude. For, the only way the fight happens now...is at a catch-weight; a non-title fight. GSP might bight at that. And then DW might be able to have his cake and eat it, too; minus the foot.
your wrong about the same division anderson has been offered fights at 205 and took them and won..with that being said yeah gsp needs to prove nothing he has done and continues to dominate his division why leave and risk it all so if he loses he not only loses the belt but people will be talking mad shit
I'm not sure GSP's legacy would be threatened by a loss to Anderson (at least, not a completely 1-sided loss). Consider BJ Penn and his move up to fight GSP at WW. Most people still consider BJ to be the best LW of all time, regardless of his losses at WW against GSP. At the time it was a fight between two of the top p4p fighters in the world, and even though GSP won, BJ was still revered as the most dominant LW ever.
I think GSP vs Silva NEEDS to happen (at least at a catch-weight). If the only reason for GSP to not fight Silva is because there is too much risk, then we can begin to welcome MMA into the disgraceful world of boxing. As long as GSP is given ample time to prepare for a fight against the only p4p fighter ranked higher than him, this fight cannot possibly be dispraised.
Didn't AS say he wouldn't fight Lyoto Machida?
@ moots
I don't believe I used the word legacy, actually.
My overall point was - I don't think it's going to happen, now. I think GSP has been dumping water on this for a while, now and DW has finally accepted it and is trying to find a way to save face; so to speak.
I think (and they spoke of) a "catch" is the only way they could have this fight in the near-term and perhaps, ever. Again, I'd have to wonder why, after dominating for X years, that GSP, at the end of his career, would say....#### it...I'll go up, fight Anderson and probably get my head handed to me...it would be a great way to close out the highlight reel for my career, when they are inducting me into "whatever" Hall of Fame; UFC, MMA, Canadian Sports ect.
No - I just don't see that happening. He's too smart and it would be a stupid move. Go out on top, man; be the movie.
To me - I'd like to see it now (post Shields, given GSP wins) and at catch, but not at the end of his career; as a last fight. At least if he loses now, he would still have many opportunities left to fight, win and continue on; without having DW F-up his career.
Cheers to you Moots; articulate as always.
Wing Chun
Well technically, I didn't quote you saying 'legacy', but it sounded like that may be the only thing at stake if you think about it. It won't change his status in the WW division - he would still be WW champ (includes sponsorships, recognition, $$). So I don't think he is really putting all that much on the line. However, if you take into consideration his move to MW being permanent, then I see the risk involved. At a catch-weight though, perhaps he wouldn't move to MW anyway and could continue to dominate the cleared-out WW division. He could still go out on top: as the best WW of all time - which is where he stands now. He isn't considered the top p4p fighter in the world, so that title isn't at risk.
We both know GSP is going to crush Shields, but what we don't know is whether or not Dana is going to go through with pushing for the superfight. We should lay this argument to rest simply because it seems so speculative at this moment.
@wingchun @michaelchimique
What's up wit all the gsp nutts huggin if gsp wants to prove he's the best then hes gotta fight the best... as= b4p
shogun winning is being overlooked..
Bisping's punishment was "not getting a bonus" ???? Are you f*cking serious??? that fight was not even worth it of any kind of bonuses... since bisping and dana suck each others d*ck its obvious that there is no real punishment...