Dana White: We can't do business with Golden Glory
Posted on August 4, 2011, 04:21 PM by Joey SantosusUFC President Dana White, who was in attendance in Philidelphia for the UFC 133 pre-fight press conference, discussed the recent releases of several high-profile Gold Glory competitors. Among those released were then Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion Alistair Overeem, former Women's Welterweight champ Marloes Coenen, one-time UFC competitor Jon Olav Einemo, and Valentijn Overeem.
Dana White:
"This is actually a pretty simple explanation. If you look back throughout history, we haven't had any Golden Glory guys fight with us since Semmy Schilt. Right? And the reason is, we have very different business practices - it's tough to do business with them. The bottom line is, the way that they do business is, you have to pay them - not the fighters. We don't work that way. It's not the way we do business and it's not how it works here in the United States with the athletic commissions. You don't pay the managers and the managers pay the fighters. You pay the fighters and the fighters pay the managers... When Einemo fought in the UFC, they did it our way - the way that it has to be done. They refuse to do business any other way and we can't do business like that."
Further Reading: Martijn De Jong hopes Golden Glory can still solve the conflict with ZUFFA
Photo:UFC President Dana White at a press conference for UFC 108 at the MGM Grand Hotel on December 30, 2009, in Las Vegas, Nevada. Francis Specker
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Good GG will have to understand if they want into the UFC they'll have to do it this way. The fighters deserve to pay the managers not the other way around. Trainers are paid to train the fighters, managers should be paid to manage the fighters. Let's see if GG gets the hint.
teah that help clear up why some of this ppl were being cut and being ranked fighters
suppose thats fair enough...
And we are to believe Dana? He is a professional liar!
Yea well we finally know now..but i wouldnt worry those fighters will be back..i mean think where else will they get paid like they would in the UFC GG will be crawling back!!!
That's no reason c'mon, zuffa should only care about the amount they have to pay, where it goes is the fighters choice.
imo this so called explanation is just a dana blowjob to smooth things over !
Zuffa just wanting 100% power ! (no choices, fight when we want it, for the amount we pick or...)
We only transfer money to the fighter account not to there managers, the fighters are o.k with it, but zuffa is not ??
This is giving zuffa, dana problems in what way ??? bull excuse !
(good reason to dump some high profile fighters)
That's no reason c'mon, zuffa should only care about the amount they have to pay, where it goes is the fighters choice.
imo this so called explanation is just a dana blowjob to smooth things over !
Zuffa just wanting 100% power ! (no choices, fight when we want it, for the amount we pick or...)
We only transfer money to the fighter account not to there managers, the fighters are o.k with it, but zuffa is not ??
This is giving zuffa, dana problems in what way ??? bull excuse !
(good reason to dump some high profile fighters)
And we are to believe Dana? He is a professional liar!
And we are to believe Dana? He is a professional liar!
And we are to believe Dana? He is a professional liar!
And we are to believe Dana? He is a professional liar!
How do you know K1 paid Allistair directly.... ? by the big fake check he got to waive around in the ring?? haha
Like Dana said, they can do business like that elsewhere in the world, but if you wanna work in the UFC, you gotta abide by their rules. This seems like a silly one to be complaining about...
seems like a silly little matter for GG yet they wont bend I wonder why? What do they really want the money for, if you ask me those fighters that are being screwed need to leave GG, and get some fair management
Amen
I thought the fighters were supposed to pay their managers, not the other way around. I finally agree with Dictator Dana on this one. These fighters need to change managers, it's plain and simple.
Does anyone really believes this guy?
I'd like to but the way they are cleaning house I think he's using any excuse he can to cut fighters ... strikeforce is dead or at least will be within the next 18-24 months
Why would he Lie When Golden Glory can just come out and say....Dana Isnt Stupid enough to give GG a reason to say he's a liar!!!theres no reason not to believe him!
Marloes twitted last night a picture of her check to prove Minime wrong, I am actually surprise that this site has not posted yet, what is up with that Lowkick staff?
As I predicted, there's a sufficient business-related reason for their release. Golden Glory isn't adhering to the terms of the contract, so Zuffa will not do business with them. Case closed.
could be weight to this story
Coenen just told Josh Gross of ESPN that she wants Golden Glory to handle payments because of tax purposes.
Strange now there's reports of Coenen uploading her payslip to show that she was paid directly, pretty much proving that ZUFFA are lying about this 'payment to managers' reason for the releases.
if puppetmaster dana says something everyone must obey if not bellator will be waiting
It seems the rumors were true.
If I was one of the fighters I would be pissed at GG. This could be solved simply and easily by just letting the fighters pay the managers. But instead, the managers cause the fighers to be released, hurting the paychecks of everyone involved.
You don't think managers can think of that, it's just a shitty explanation by dana to look good, it's just a power trip, because the dutch have there own shows and they were part of fedor's last year tactics, zuffa showing we can f... everyone.
i thought it was BUSSINESS AS USUAL and scott coker would continue running strikeforce, guess not.
Golden glory is a gym. It would be far better for the sport for gyms to be making money and paying the ufc for organization and refs etc like every other pro sport. But it's prize fighting so the managers, and the ufc will suck the money out of fighters who make next to nothing compared to the profit of the ufc.
sounds more plausible than that lousy reason Scott Coker made about TV spots
Ha GG will have to conform its really anoying that all these foreighn companys are trying to hustle (m1 global co promote)..Go Dana this aint boxing!And Im pretty sure gyms make plenty of money without ripping off the fighters.
eh don't make it like GG fighters are fighting drones or zombies. If the fighters are ok with (or even want) the manager to get paid by Zuffa then what's the problem for Zuffa?
is the "we are not paying them to not fight" comment referring to Alistair when he didn't want to fight on earlier date? it seems like to Dana it's a "boss-employee" thing and to the Dutch it's a "partner-partner" contract type of thing. it just don't work out.
Becuase if they give special contracts to GG then they would have to conform and write special contracts for every gym. Anyone with any business experience can see why that's a bad move.
And the "we are not paying them to not fight" is referring to the gym.
simple and understandeable
i knew there had to be a good reason, Wonder whats GG and the fighters thinking makes no sense
Everyone is irate, saying that Dana is greedy and wants a monopoly. While I don't like the fact that there is now no real competition amongst MMA these days, the fact is that both Golden Glory and M-1 Global thought they were bigger than the sport with their inflated champs in Overeem and Fedor. Both are great fighters, but they do not care about the fans, looking to pad their records by fighting cans and bullshitting around in K-1 and Strikeforce. Neither has fought a top level fighter for years (Werdum is not top level, JDS knocked him out cold in his octagon debut), and both management companies seem to think they have the bargaining power with ONE highly-known fighter. Say what you want about Dana, but he gives the fans what they want, which is action. GG and M-1, not so much.
"We can't do business with GG because they're considering starting their own world series which will result in them being in direct competition with us (zuffa) we have just got rid of our main competitor (SF) we don't want another one stepping into the breach" That's about the size of it, the payment method story was a good cover though.........