Shane Carwin ! until JDS and Cain test themselves against brock. Fedor will have to beat Overeem and Werdum and Overrem beat Fedor and werdum to be considered best. And Brock will have to beat JDS and Cain and Roy nelson's belly. Is that clear?
Hell ****king Lesnar Number 1, are you kidding me, after getting beat up so bad, after showing no stand up game, after doing the bob sapp turtle when he was on the ground, some people are just nutts!
I bet if Carwin would hve won all you guys would hve had him as number 1 in the world, stop hating, Lesnar won who still got a title shot too quickly but theres no denying hes number one after 116
Thats why no one takes this website serious. What will the polls say when Cain beats brock? all of a sudden he will be #1 ? why isnt he #1now?
KIDS! No one takes these polls serious bc its just little boys that dont know MMA.
Allistar , Fedor , Carwin Should be at the Top. Obviously Carwin beat brock and its a better fighter but Brock won the match doesnt mean he won the fight.
No one takes this site seriously? Haha I think your overly emotional comment says it all.... I think that u must take it pretty seriously because obviously u do not visit other sites, as many sites have Lesnar at #1, not to mention the site's members.
With names like stickinurchick on it do you ever expect to be taken seriously?
Lol, a man with the name "azzkika" shall not cast the first stone...
Stickinurchick's always on here with good input, every post I've been on he's been there with smart things to say not wasting his time worrying about peoples log in names... notice the sharp next to his name and the WEAK next 2 yours? as to the post Lesnar DEFINITELY had no answer for Shane on the feet BUT a real champ battles through adversity and I have to say he took more shots then most people could from Carwin... I was rooting for Carwin the whole way and wish he didn't gas out BUT to take that beating and come back and win by Submission? who saw that coming it just shows Lesnar is working on improving his game without a doubt!
So Carwin showed no cardio, tapped out and couldnt finish Brock...But he won the fight? Please enlighten me as to where you get this from
ULTRAXl, retard, who ever you are.
I have a question for you.
How does carwin losing to Brock, make Carwin a better fighter?
And Brock did win the fight, unless I am missing something.
Does that mean Chris Leben is a better fighter eventhough he lost to Anderson Silva. The very fact that someone beats another means they are a better fighter, at least thats what winning and losing is all about.
Federer may lose a match but does not lose #1 ranking. The top football team in a division may lose but still remain on top, ronnie o'sullivan may lose a match in snooker but remains #1. Them sports have an annually accrued point system that takes into account all of a competitors results and the level of competetion faced.
MMA is becoming farcicle with DW's hype overruling sense in these matters. If it really goes an a fight by fight basis then Werdum is #1. It is mere UFC hugging by the rankings. If you assess it over a time frame then it's still Fedor or Cain. There is no arguement of any decent logic that makes Brock #1. He didn't beat a champ and has only fought once in a year. So it has to be Werdum or Fedor.
But I don't expect anything less from the farce that is the UFC HW division.
Right... Carwin was 12-0 and Brock gave him his first defeat. No one else did that.
I would not have had Carwin at # 1 either. I still think they are both unproven. Between the two of them they only have 3 fights against top tier competition. I think that at the moment the HW division is too up in the air to say who is #1. If Fedor beats Werdum in a rematch in dominant fashion then I would call the first fight a fluke and put him back at #1 but other than that I don't see anything happening in the near future that would sort out the division. Even Cain only has one top tier opponent win and it is a good bet that Noguiera's chin is gone.
Sad but true, most ppl here are clueless and WWE fans. don't think this pool means shit just look up to the professionals opinion.
He won right? How many people can weather Carwin's storm of massive punches? No one.
Agreed. Lesner won because Carwin lost his engine.
Brock didnt win the Fight ,Carwin did. he just won the Ufc match.What do you think will happen if they figth again?
OVEREEM? If you see Overeems fight you can see his Amazing skill reaction time and different fighting level. If you saw Brocks fight last week and you tought that was skill your a RETARDed wwe ufc fan boy period.
Top Heavy Weight has nothing to do with who has the belt of who won the last fight. IT means who is a better fighter and will win the most of the time
Brock has beaten Frank Mir ONLY , Carwin has beaten Gonzaga and Frank Mir. Where is gonazaga ranked? top 30 Mir? Who knows where Mir is ranked consirering he has only beaten Brock
__SO just because they beat themselfs in a circle doesnt make them the ones to beat or the top of the world. Mir beat Brock hes the best.Oh
brock beat Mir now hes the best. Oh Cain beat Brock now hes the best.
So people rank someone high that has beaten 2 guys ? Gonzaga is old school and will never again be in contention for the belt.
Skill-Wise .Brock is not the best ,he has beaten 2 unproven fighters.and sat nigt proved that Carwin was unproven bc he doesnt have stamina to go 5 rounds. THE FACT IS THAT IF HE FIGHTS OVEREEM OR FEDOR HE WILL LOSE AND THEN ALL YOU BANDWAGONERS WILL RANK FEDOR #1 WICH IS WERE YOUR RETARNESS LYES.
I love the UFC but I know that their heavy weights dont have the best bc im a MMA fan not an Organization fan.You wana rank your favorite fighters high just for hype and to make Dana white richer and to give dana white excuses not to bring Fedor and Overeem In to rape their division but the facts are facts.
You've just talked aload of shit. Lesnar came out as the better fighter in the end ffs, he showed good cardio-and anyone who disagrees should go and have a 20st man lay on top of them and throw his hardest punches at you-he also showed heart and incredible determination.
Haters gonna hate really, keep making excuses all you want to, but, at the end of the day, it was your boy Carwin who tapped out and didn't show the heart or determination Brock did.
too many words dude. Winning = good, losing= bad. Get the net.
Wheres kimbo slice?
he might have gotten beat standing up but he still won damnit. He defended his title succesfully so therefore he earned it. My guess that would be why Brock is at the top of the list over fedor or carwin because both of them lost their last matches.
fedor is a dumass for getting on the ground with werdum
I got 40 weaks for highlighting some facts about Lesnars and carwins games on another thread. Most definately some WWE UFC noobs around the place. Any mma fan worth his salt knows saturday demonstrated that the UFC HW division has not progressed a fraction of the amount DW would have us all believe.
Well, maybe you should take your own advice.... I have, for the most part, tried to not be baited in, but I did not like the comment regarding LowKick and the little dingle-berries who agreed... So have at it bud. See if its something that is confined LowKick:
i like WWE, and every other organization before that but hey that dosnt mean anything. I like brock because i didnt have a fav in HW div until he came into it. SO hey hey hey, hes my fav. if carwin would have won the fight i STILL would have brock as #1....and if brock loses everyfight from here on in i WOULD STILL!!! have brock as #1...with some argument as to who is the HW champ. Not everyone on this site has such a small brain that they change their favs and sideswith the changing of the winds that is the UFC.
Lol, I am not the type to complain about "weaks," and that is not my intention here, rather I just want to note the humor here. I put it in their face, their own words, talking shit about LowKick vs other sites and nothing to say, just click weak and move on hahaha
I guess this means that mma is unique to other sports in that rankings are determined on a fight by fight basis.
All other sports where it is one vs one don't have a match by match ranking system. And someone who only competed once in a year would not be #1.
UFC HW's get undue kudos due to the quality of their other divisions, as last saturday demonstrated quite clearly how weak UFC HW's are.
ALL sports are directly impacted by their latest performance.
What are those sites for?
Well if u pay attention to previous comments, "Ultraxl" said that "nobody takes LowKick seriously" because this poll has Brock Lesnar as #1, while Zombiepower remarked "shit just look up to the professionals opinion."
So those links provide an easy way for them and others to examine the validity of their statements. Check them out and see for yourself if the results of this poll are just a "LowKick phenomenon." Take a moment to "look up to the professionals opinion."
you got alot of time on your hands.
If that was directed at me, its hard to tell, its not a matter of time... All u gotta do is type in "mma rankings" in google and literally go down the page. Thats whats funny about these guys pretending that they have knowledge of any type of professional opinion or opposing websites. Maybe if they took a few minutes of the time they are wasting arguing and attempting to validate those arguments with false statements and insults directed at Lowkick and used it to actually check the validity of their emotionally motivated opinions then I wouldnt have to expose them.
you can't get 40 weaks, all of you clowns own the place with 5 fake accounts each and recycled arguments.
haha i remember that so hey ima weak ya again since u didnt get the jist last time.
why is allister overeem on this poll?
It annoys me how people hype a guy up based on one fight. so he kicked rogers ass in style. Brett Rogers was hyped because he put up a good fight against fedor, but he lost and has never beaten a credible opponent. Who has overeem fought recently, goodridge (23-22), James Thompson (beaten by Kimbo!) He hasn't fough decent opponents since 2006 and lost to shogun arona and nogueira in a row.
hey stoopid, in case u forgot, he was fighting at a much lighter weight class and he was less experienced at that time. If you're saying that Arlovski isn't credible then that makes you lamer than you were the first time I told you so. Look at how Overeem moves and fights, you don't just base it on fight records and sh*t. There's more to mma than your lame comments
I kinda agree about overeem, given his glass jaw, but i reckon he'd take brock by his ability to finish and brocks going foetal from a punch.
A punch that has knocked every other man unconscious, a fact that haters were all about before the fight, but seem to have forgotten and twisted around now that Lesnar took it and shook it......
Actually it usually takes quite a few from carwin. i haven't seen him do a fedor one punch ko yet.
you mean like the ko punch that Andre Arlovski ran at full speed into??? a 13 year old could get a one punch knock out on a guy running full speed right into it too
thats an even more retarded comment than we're used to hearing from you. you don't think you should judge a fighter on his record???
I'm not sayin he is not good, i'm just sayin you cannot call him the no 1 heavyweight in the world until he fights decent calibre opponents.
you don't just base it on records? then why do you always cry about brocks record and point to fedors? look at how he moves...what's so special about him? before he fought bret all you clowns didnt think he was special at all
before he fought brett rogers? Maybe thats the only overeem fight you've seen.. Back in Pride he was already great just not mature enough. Overeem just turned 30. Captain America started at 30. Alistair is getting even better and better. I think its even safe to say that he's in his fighting prime.. So, if you don't have anything smart to share "if there's any", just read the intelligent comments on this site and do some research.. DAMN YOU'RE LAME!
Maybe i just notice the trend that goes on on the boards, like i've never seen your name before. before he fought rogers everyone was saying he's a steroid using bum, now everyone is hyping him up trying to act like he's superman, just like they do anyone Fedor is involved with.
Read, comprehend and respond, if you're some idiot with a fake account you should atleast know what all your teammates are doing.
I hope you are not refering to yourself when you talk about reading the intelligent comments. Your comments are some of the dumbest on this site.
overeem was certainly not "great" back in the pride days. he was at best a second tier fighter who lost to all the top tier fighters such as liddell, shogun, nogueira etc. his only decent win was belfort.
He then realised he would only eb=ver be a second tier fighter at LHW and hit the roids to go up to HW
Then there's no argument here. You've just proved me right
It seems Brock is less experienced and beat Shane Carwin.
brock had more ring time.
brock lesnar n1 ? hahah
if he have another life time, he still cant achive what fedor has
Time to let him go Buddy-Boy. Time to move on.
I agree Fedor was tthe number 1 for almost a decade but he lost he isn't the number one anymore top 3 but not number 1, I basically thought that the winner of Lesnar/Carwin will be number one and seeing how Lesnar won I consider him the champ until he loses
tell me does it go on records or on a fight by fight basis?
either way there's a post proving why brock should not be #1. It's pure UFC HW nut hugging of the severest form.
if it's fight by fight, werdum = #1 he beat the #1 fighter.
if its records cain or fedor. brock only fought once in a year so he can't be eligible.
Brock reminded me of Bob Sapp when he got punched in the face. He won yes, but size and wrestling apart I didn't noticed any solid skill from him and this is mma.If I look at the improvment Cain made, it makes me think that he is def a much more skilled and talented guy. Good chin, that's the only positive thing I saw in the fight.
i do not see why fedor is now suddenly not no1 in the world due to ONE LOSS. he knocked werdum downin that fight, and got over eager against a guy with a far too dangerous guard. It was a good win for werdum don't get me wrong. he used what he is best at to beat fedor and all the respect in the world to him, but you all know full well that if they rematch, everyone will still put money on fedor.
dont know what i have to think about the ranking!? my favorite fighter is fedor, and he only made 1 mistake and have 1 real loss!!! he have the best record of all heavyweights!! but maybe its unfair to rank him Nr 1 after a loss??? but i think the UFC HW havent enough fights on their record to be ranked higher than fedor!!!
I think Brock. It's really a toss up if the fighters all fought each other but with Fedor losing and Brock winning it has to be Brock. :(
Dumbest sh*t that I have ever heard! Fedor 32-2, Lesnar 5-1.... WWWWTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFFF NO COMPARISON!
Trust me I know Fedor better than you do. Right now Brock would manhandle Fedor. I don't like to admit it but he would. He is just too big for Fedor. And I know it was just irrational thinking that made your fingers type dumbest sh*t you ever heard. And then you type records on your comment. So you are saying fight records make rankings? Come on man. I'm one of Fedor's biggest supporters on this site. At least I can present rational arguements on why Fedor is still the man. Your comment is the reason people on this site attack Fedor fans with no let up.
I'll remind you again. Fedar fights in the little kid league. Brock fights in the big leagues, big difference. Get the net
in other sports a loss for the #1 ranked sportsman rarely sees them demoted immediately. Obviously with the way people like to hang on brocks nuts they will say he #1 as well as the fact UFC got alot of money in the hype machine which carries weight in these things.
If you compare the last 5 performances of all fighters I would say Fedor or Cain, but probably fedor as despite his loss has been fighting higher class opposition and finished his other fights quite good. Arlovski was the most devastating finish of any HW in recent times, and unmatched by anything in UFC. If people think rankings are determined on a fight by fight basis then rankings will never give much of an accurate picture. i think in the next few years it will read something like this
too bad fedors last challenge came from crocop 5 years ago, and i think nog just might be past his prime, what was so impressive about cain vs congo? What the hell is so great about overeem?
Do you train with MItrione? Is he holding a gun to your head making you put him in there? Just Type in a * and help is on its way.
dude where is big country on that list, he will beat JDS! Mark the words.
If that happens, that will shake up the whole lowkick community Haha.
After watching carwin lesnar there is alot great about them fighters. they are certainly more than 1 dimensional can handle a striker in the stand up and dont gas after 1 round
Wait until cain vs. brock...
What... just like Mir vs Brock 2 and Carwin vs Brock? Cain is going to lose. I just hope you not jumping on Cain's nuts now.
Lesner's game is nothing but holes. Some one will beat him soon. Had there been a different ref he may have lost last night. I'm not saying the fight SHOULD have been stopped but a lot of refs would have.
A lot of Refs would have been wrong yeah. He stood up on his own, and controlled the last minute of the round. Obviously he didn't need to be rescued. He won fair and square. He's the champ.
brock didn't controll any of the first round period. that being said, brock is the top #1 HW atm. he got his azz whooped for a solid 5 mins, and pulled off out the win via submission. if brock takes this submission victory to heart and focuses on his catch wrestling skills with Erik Paulson in a big way, he might be able to defeat everyone in the UFC hw division with little difficulty.
fedor is technically far better than brock but if they fought brock would break him. I never though id say that but the guy is just too big for him and once he takes fedor down he will ground n pound him till its over
Wow, you all bitch about Lesnar just because he submitted your butt buddy Carwin. And your other butt buddy Fedor lost the other night. You guys are probably in some bad moods.
And you think WWE is real!
What does that even have to do with anything? You're just pissed because a former pro wrestler submitted you boyfriend.
First off, DON'T talk about my boy friend (snapping fingers). Second Lesner's game is nothing but holes.
In tenis Federer lost the French open and was still rank 1 until he lost in Wimbledon to.Fedor shuld be stil the n1 HW. Werdum got lucky Fedor was just about to kill him i don't think the same will hapen again.Lesnar got the bigest ground and pound ass whooping iw ewer seen for long time.I call Lesnar n1 after he beats Cain and JDS and rematch Carwin
decent logic don't no longer in mma. too many danarites.
Fedor hasn't been number one for years. According to any sane half-coherent perspective.
You consider that decent logic?!??!?!? shows how much of an ass you are too. Werdum didnt get lucky Werdum fell back he didnt even get hurt cuz of he did how did he have the wherewithall to throw 2 submission attempts as beautiful as the ones he did. He just lured Fedor right into a triangle trap of hell and Fedor sauntered right in there. Idiots -.-
MMA is the only sport where logic has no home.
again, name another sport where a 28 win streak sportsman at the highest level becomes overtaken after 1 loss? you can't, And certainly by another sportsman who competed once in a whole year.
No matter what logic you want to apply you can't really argue Brock, unless of course you are from the DW school of idiocy which is the way alot of mma seems to be going, but it's still idiocy.
Should be Fedor, but if it's win by win basis werdum.
You cant go from not being in the top 10 HW's then all of a sudden be #1. So Werdum being number 1....no.....Fedor lost he dropped down. these are current rankings....not "well you lose now but since you did well in the past we will keep you at the place you last were on" rankings. Get over it, your little flabby bald boyfriend isnt #1 anymore.....i bet if he wins next fight he will be back on his throne where you can keep his testicles all nice and wet for him
Lesnar to suvive the unslot probably used some of his suplements i don't see other way Lesanar to get up after that much ground and pound
He got back up because he's a beast.
Roids give you a better chin and make you recover from a punch faster? The nonsense that you blabber out is pretty off the wall.
you mean ONSLAUGHT? what are you trying to say? what're you unsloting?
You guys got to be kidding me. Brock got his ****in ass kicked vs. Carwin. If it was any other fighter the fight would've been stopped in the first round due to ground and pound strikes. He was not intelligently defending himself for a good minute or so. Actually, the only punch that brock landed was a sorry jab that was answered by a overhand right from Carwin that made brock stumble, thats it. I'll give him credit for coming back in the 2nd, but that was only because Carwin punched himself out when he was beating the shit out of Lesner in the 1st waiting for the ref to wake up. Just look at the post-fight pic's and you tell me who won that fight for real. Whata joke!
Yeah,because how they look after the fight says who won it.
I guess Leben and Bonnar forgot about that rule too , huh?
Speaking of intelligence, how could it be possible for him to be knocked out and still continue? It's not possible? so why should they have stopped it retard?
Not intelligently defending one's self does not = KOd. I personally do not know if the fight should have been stopped. There was a moment where Lesner didn't look like he knew where he was and he admitted to thinking it was over but Herb Dean knows better than I do as he was right there and is one of the few good refs. I can't argue with his call.
I'm pretty sure brock didn't get brain damage. If you're totally overwhelmed by strikes to the face and you have no chance, it's not like you're gonna bounce back in 20 seconds. Good no-stop.
Btw, why the hell does everyone think herb dean was reffing? .........
if i was looking to see who won the fight for real i'd probablly watch the fight video at the aprt where carwin tapped. but i guess that makes to much sense so we should just watch the post fight interviews.....
I don't think the HW champion gives a shit about whether or not you give him credit. Shane would murder you, and no other fighter could have endured that beating. He was defending himself, he was fine, he stood up and won.
I wonder what the silly excuses will be when Lesnar beats Cain?
Make sure you watch those interviews without sound, you`ll surely see that shane won.
Yeah lets go by the post fight interview.
Lesnar was beat up.
Carwin didnt show up because he had to go to the hospital.
If lesnar beats cain it will perfectly demonstrate how weak UFC HW's are.
the funny thing is, if carwin won that fight people would say he was the best in the world no question. but brock won that fight in dramatic fasion and people cant even give a ounce of credit. its true hes a deuche, but if you believe in statistics and rankings, he is the number 1 HW in the world.
if only there was like a NMMAA or some bs lol theres to many promotions man its killing the sport... or should i say buissness :/
What is people's reasoning for picking Fedor? seriously...
we've seen him kick a lot of ass brutally and skillfully. brock has kicked 5 guys' asses. 1/6 of what fedor has done.
So, name a guy Fedor has beaten that brock wouldn't pound. Im not sure if he or most UFC heavyweights could even fight those guys without someone accusing them of buffering their record.
I'd fancy quite a few against brock in their prime. Brock is sloppy goes foetal has nothing off his back and is so lucky carwin gassed beyond imagination and the ref didnt call it. And everyone cuddling his nuts like he the baddest man on the planet. More like the luckiest. He don't have much other than a good chin, size strength and now a basic submission game.
Where the hell are the names again idiot? I asked for names. I can go through probably the entire list and most of the top heavyweights would eat them for breakfast, maybe not even top, maybe not even heavyweight.
If you weren't a couch potato with a laptop, you'd know punching yourself out has NOTHING to do with luck and nothing to do with cardio.
Skill, a ten year winning streak and the fact that Fedor is always at a size disadvantage. Also the fact that Brock's game is nothing but holes and all of the "top" UFC HW are unproven against top competition while Fedor has beaten the who's who (regardless of what Dana and the Nutthuggers say) of yesterday's fighters and some of today's best as well. Every one seems very impressed with Nelson now that he is in the UFC but remember, it wasn't long ago that Arlovski KOd him.
Gullibility and nostalgia.
Who's the who's who? You didn't name a damn thing really you're just saying that and hoping noone actually knows who he's fought.
And it wasn't long ago that arlovski was on bully beatdown, where all the elite fighters go.
Seems wwe fans have taken over mma. they do outnumber true mma fans tenfold.
Fedor nuthuggers want to turn MMA into WWF of old,whining about how there should have been a false stoppage so that they could hate on the champ.
All credits to Carwin he is the one who was on top and ground and pound.I think only Lesanars suplements help him in this fight no other way
That's because you're a mental defective buddy. Lesnar would beat Fedor, so would Shane, so would nearly all top HW's.
Lesnar is way over hyped. he proved it already. are you blind???
Terrible Thread... WHO GIVES A SHIT! Rankings don't mean shit.
Fedor is still number 1, getting caught in a sub by one of the top 5 HW BJJ guys in the world is no shame and after Brock and Carwin looked so bad at UFC 116 they are both off my top 5.
My current ranking.
5. Dos Santos
you say that like everyone cares.
here is my current rankings
1. Big Country
2. Chris Leben
5. UlTraxl ( bc of his comment about Carwin winning the fight?)
Fedor is obviously still the 1st place hw, its a pretty easy choice really.
what shane carwin would be number one if they would only be one round in hw. have to say overeem ,fedorm, cian, jds ,brock, werdum
are we talking skill or popularity. fedor is by far the most skilled fighter in the division. allistair overeem is second cause he has k-1 kickboxing skills to go along with his abu dhabi qualifing submission skills not to mention the tightest guillotine in mma. after that, i believe cain velasquez has good standup and excellent wrestling skills. since he works with dave camarillo, i have to believe he has a great understanding of jiu jitsu and judo. next, i have to give to big nog. his all around skills may be better than cain's, but cain proved himself in the head to head match. i believe brock is still up and coming when it comes to mma. he is getting better skills and he's really working on his game and learning fast, but he's not ready to beat fedor. maybe one day he will, but not today. and for you people who think fedor sucks cause he got triangled by a world champion jiu jitsu and abu dhabi winner, go watch some of his matches on youtube and see the other big names he has done that too. now if we're talking about popularity, brock lesner won before he even put on the gloves. that's why people that watch the ufc only, are the same ass wwe fans. there is good mma outside the octagon.
totally true jamo, but wasting your breathe on ten year old wwe fans.
no matter how much fact you supply them they can't see past DW's testicles long enough to consider and understand.
Brock having the most votes boggles my mind.....i dont get it...all these lesner bangwageners who love him cuz hes huge....pisses me off.....hes had 6 fights ppl.....for god sakes.
6 hard fights vs multitude of easy fights.........
typical glory hunters. They'd be all over carwins had the ref called it & they'd all be agreeing how awful brock was.
As it turned out carwin punched himself out so bad he was unable to offer any resistance and my nan would have submitted him in R2. But hey he is wwe superstar who won in UFC title match. he is the greatest ever, unbeatable, fantastic, lets all bow down to the Brock - god of mma.
i recon junior dos santos he has the power and chin to give all of these fighters a good fight and i recon his foot work speed and power would mean he would out strike any heavyweight. the problem wud be if some one like brock had him on his back.
He's probably the most proven "top" UFC HW with wins over Werdum, Gonzaga and Cro Cop. I'll give you that.
Much respect to Brock Lesnar. He got his ass kicked in the first round and won. He showed the heart of a lion. He had every incentive and excuse to quit. He was out of the ring for a very long time, he just gotten his ass handed to him, and he could not take Shane down in the first round.He showed the mettle of a Champion, and he has my respect. Any man that faces that kind of adversity and hangs in there has my respect.Long live the KING!!!
New fake account retard?
Brock Lesnar for sure. The bottom line is the fact that Brock has been tested, time and time again. There are no fights on his record that has been considered an easy fight for him or for any fighter for that matter. If Brock does fight Cain and wins, that will solidify his dominance and put him as the number one, uncontested heavyweight.
you gullible fool
Ignore ak, he's allergic to common sense and reality. Ask anyone to name Fedor's first few opponents, then ask them to name Lesnar's. Fedor had something like 15 MMA fights, years of training, and years of training in other combat sports, before he ever fought anyone of significance. Lesnar got an ex-two time champion, in the best shape of his life, still in his prime, and stomped him unmercifully.
What would Lesnar be like if MMA had been around for him when he was 20? He's still a rookie, still learning, still a fish out of water, and he's the HW champion and just beat the #1 contender. Someone talk to me about Fedor the day he beats someone like Shane (he's never fought anyone like Shane or anyone like Lesnar). All the top HW's would smash Werdum, and Werdum already beat both Overeem and Fedor... Please.
Hahaha! Still arguing....
I wonder if Carwin would have won if he was on the 2010 game cover....
This poll makes me sad.
hard to choose on this one, I think its a toss up between Overeem and Fedor
Brock is amazing but i dont think he is the top man in the heavy weight division. Cain is the man