UFC 128: Could Jon Jones be the Usain Bolt of MMA?

Posted on March 8, 2011, 08:36 AM by Anton Gurevich
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On March 19th, Jon Jones will have his first shot at glory, facing the legendary UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at the main event of UFC 128 in Newark, New Jersey. If victorious, Jon Jones could become the youngest title holder in UFC history, at the age of just 23 (Smartass Alert: Vitor Belfort won the UFC Heavyweight Tournament, not the Heavyweight Title).

The fight against Shogun Rua will be an interesting clash of styles between two talented fighters. But there's one area where Jon Jones has a clear advantage over the Brazilian veteran. A God-given physique.

Together with Anderson Silva, Jones's physique always reminded me the one of Usain Bolt. Just like the Jamaican phenom, Jones is one of a kind athlete, who differs from the rest with a rare physical characteristics. He's tall, lanky and has very long limbs. Jones's 84.5-inch reach is unique not only for MMA, but for any other combat sports. In fact, the only fighter I know who has a longer reach is the former WBA Heavyweight Champion Nikolai Valuev (7-feet monster) with 91 inches.



But it's not all about just having a great physique. There's plenty of underachieving athletes who could easily make it to the cover of Men's Fitness Magazine. It's about how you use it.

Being 6ft 5 tall, at least on paper Usain Bolt should be slower than other sprinters at 100m. However, Bolt manages to use the length of his legs to his advantage, immediately building an unhuman record-breaking speed. And that's also the greatest thing about Jon Jones. He's surprisingly fast, intelligently using his body to create an incredible unorthodox style, with suplexes, elbows, high kicks and what's not.

Jon Jones's road to UFC 128 was similar to Bolt's magical 9.69sec sprint at 100m in Beijing. The Greg Jackson product made it look easy, beating opponent after opponent without breaking a sweat. His performances left a feeling of more to come. And just like Usain Bolt broke the record in Berlin with 9.58 seconds at 100m, I'm firmly confident that Jon Jones will be pushed to his limits and walk out of the Prudential Center with a belt around his waist.



And who if not Shogun Rua can push Jon Jones to his limits? Shogun already was where Jones is trying to get by winning the PRIDE 2005 Middleweight GP at the age of 23. The Brazilian has the necessary experience and mental strength to deal with someone like Jones. He faced some of the top fighters in the World, suffered from a serious injury but still managed to find his way back to the top. Rua and Jones are without a doubt currently the top two Light Heavyweights in the World, promising an epic encounter on March 19th.

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  • Conan
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    Jones is talented enough to be one of the greatest LHW in this new decade!

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  • theashark
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    jon jones could be the Jon jones of mma, the guy's one of a kind

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  • dray12
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    Yup, but what alot of people fail to realize is that he will DEFINITELY lose sooner or later. Even if he wins in the title, he will lose within the next couple years for sure. Just comes with the territory of the sport, and especially with the evolution of the sport.

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  • DaddyLongStrokes
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    Cant believe an article comparing Jon Jones to Usain Bolt is on the main page of this web site.... This is an abomination of an article *face palm*

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  • Jesper
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    ...

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  • Rane
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    Oh GOD... Please take the fruitcake out off this Earth that made up this ridiculous article.....

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  • codemaster
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    This article is strange to me because I do not see the comparison.



    I have known competitive runners before, and I know there are running techniques to learn and hard training--but I it is nothing like MMA. Those competitive sprinters I met were gifted runners from an early age who already had most of their speed before they trained seriously. In other words, running came naturally, without the need for the kind of learning and practice an MMA fighter must undergo.



    So I would rather say that maybe one day Usain Bolt will be the Jon Jones of running.

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  • dray12
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    Sorry but it is the truth. There will be no more W-streaks like Fedor's or A-Silva's in the sport anymore.

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  • JTalbain
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    And yet Silva's continues...

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  • TheRealDeal
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    Shogun will never walk through Jones.

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  • dray12
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    It's going to be Shoguns night, he'll walk through Jones, and then people will turn on the UFC for making the matchup....MARK MY WORDS!

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  • GeorgeRuetiger
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    Yet nobody doubted the greatness of Shogun when he was that age, and I don't hear anyone doubting Jose Aldo who is current champ and the same age as Jones.



    I'm so tired of this "not his time" "he's too young" crowd. What the **** does this guy have to do? He embarassed more elite competition more serverely earlier in his career than even Shogun. Let's look at their first four fights in their respective elite organisations:



    Shogun - Shoji, Gono, Namekawa, Kanehara

    Jones - Gusmao, Bonnar, O'Brien, Hammil.



    Shogun went off of those four victories (two of them complete cans, two of them mediocre at their peaks) and into the GP in which he dominated everyone put in front of him and went home with the belt. Jones faced legitimate competition from the get-go and we know how foolish he's made everyone look.



    For you to say that this will be a one-sided fight if Shogun shows up healthy is so ****ing ridiculous, it makes me mad. This will be very competitive, and I give Shogun the favour going into the fight, but there's a good chance Jones could walk away with the belt, and if he does, we're in for a long run.

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  • Riddle-jitsu
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    Dont think anyone would just walk throgh jones whats that your on about some people are really dumb or biggoted i swear......



    P.S No we all know who the usain is off mma....... KALIB STARNES !!

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  • colktfo
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    disagree, to me this fight looks like a test for both fighters. Shogun can prove he can handle the amazing takedowns and wrestling of jones. and Jones can prove if he can handle shoguns agressive striking and outstanding bjj. Either way, its gonna be a blood bath.

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  • TheGoocH
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    got to remember this is the most unpredictable sport in the world right now and this fight could be over in 5 seconds going either way.

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  • Warcrazed
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    you ask what he has to do(jones) and my answer is, he has to beat a Top 5 LHW before anyone stops saying "hes too young" etc. Cuz lets face it, yes he beat Bader, but other than that he hasn't really faced a top guy. Give him Little Nog, or even Big Nog either would be a great test, give him someone with tons of heart like Forrest Griffin, or someone like Thiago Silva.. Now dont get confused, I'm not saying the guy doesnt have talent, cuz he does. But I say he isnt ready becuz he hasnt faced that top 5 LHW yet

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    agreed ! jones is a kid! unskilled as of yet ! with no big names he fought ! he is just getting started ! good luck jones ! kid ur goingto need it!

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  • dray12
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    Wow I cant beleive you are getting weaked bro....He is undeniably talented, but people are guying into the hype to hard, whether its deserved or not.

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    look at the age bro ! then look at the skills! and fighs ! if u dont think sho gun can handle this kid thats kinda being shallow ! were is the respect for sho gun! and if jones comes in the cage with his carefree style ! shown off ! sho gun is going t put this kid asleep!

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  • HunterB
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    who did Shogun beat after those 4 fights though>???



    Rampage, Overeem, Lil Nog, Arona, Diabete, and Overeem again, You cant compare that to what Jones has done, maybe in about 2 years if and when Jones has dismantled a division,,,,

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  • doomsdayapex
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    @George:



    I think you are mistaken and probably new to the sport. In fact, I bet you've yet to watch the bouts involving Gusmao (landed only 25% of his strikes & gassed out) and O'Brien (out-boxed by a one-dimensional wrestler)



    And Shogun's opposition (at the time) was ranked - higher above Jones opposition of the present. Please, do your research.

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  • doomsdayapex
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    Gono was ranked at #13 in '04 (because of his 7 fight win streak), Namekawa was ranked at #15 by the Japanese and Kanehara (at the time) faced all the top competition PRIDE and RINGS had to offer (probably wasn't ranked in the top 20) but he was considered a veteran of the sport.



    Shoji, though, was a total can. I'll give you that one.



    Gono was definitely ranked higher than Bonnar, Gusmao and O'Brien. Namekawa probably wasn't ranked higher than Bonnar but he was ranked higher than Gusmao and O'Brien.



    Matt Hamill, I think, is the only fighter that Jones faced who was ranked higher than Gono and Namekawa by some MMA publications.



    Yes, I have seen improvements but I also still see the looping punches and the lack of set-ups. He still has not answered the question marks regarding his stamina and striking accuracy because Jones has relied mostly on his wrestling and ground-and-pound in his last three bouts. And he has yet to showcase his submission defence. I personally don't think Jones will try to stand and trade with Shogun but very little is also known about his ability to defend Rua's strikes and/or take them.



    And you keep bringing up that Rua only has one submission victory - that's not necessarily a bad thing if the fighter has a weak ground game but Mauricio is no joke on the ground. Like I stated before, Shogun is from the Chute Boxe Academy. He will always go for the head first (even if the fight goes to the ground). Don't doubt his submissions just because he only has one submission victory.

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  • doomsdayapex
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    Kanehara only lost to the best in Dan Henderson, Mirko Cro Cop, Wanderlei Silva, Alistair Overeem, Matt Hughes, Ricardo Arona and Antonio Rogerio Nogeira. Not a bad list if you ask me.



    Gono might have had wins against shitty competition but, nevertheless, he won and several MMA publications from the US had him ranked in the top 15. Now, he has been known to fight as low as 155 but he still managed to take the fight with Shogun. And who's to judge? Many fighters are hyped up in the UFC or in rankings for being 10-0 against shitty competition as well.



    Namekawa is what he is, but he still managed to be a fighter who got placed in the top 20. Rankings are not undisputed. People have different opinions. And the UFC doesn't always have the best talent. Exhibit A - The recent TUF competitions have been filled with sub-par talent.



    Yes, he showed off his submission defense against Gusmao, Bonnar and Bader BUT like I stated before - none of which had elite or world class grappling. Bonnar is the only one out of the three to be, at least, considered mid-level in the grappling department. Bader was dominated by Thales Leites every time they rolled and Gusmao got spanked by Roy Nelson.



    Training with Carlson Gracie is impressive but Jones never actually spent a large amount of time in building his skills. My guess is he spent most of that time working on defending submissions.



    Shogun's BJJ is THAT good. People just don't know about it because they've never seen Rua in a grappling competition, or grapple period. I've gotten a chance to see him grapple with his fellow 'Bad Boy' comrades and he outclassed everybody. His transitions are incredible. Just watch the Liddell and Coleman bouts again. For however long he held those positions, Shogun made it look so easy. Trust me when I tell you, Rua has the best BJJ in the LHW division and on the Pound-For-Pound list.

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  • doomsdayapex
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    Oh ok, thank god. I was going nuts trying to find out when Carlson was teaching Jones. I was on a research frenzy. And indeed, may he rest in peace.



    I disagree, while Liddell was past his prime, his wrestling was still considered to be top game. You're right, rolling/competitions differ from MMA bouts but whenever Rua was placed on his back he took full advantage. I mean, he got Liddell's back effortlessly. Not many fighters have ever gotten his back.



    Back in the early 2000's, Japanese MMA was considered on the same level with American, Brazilian and European MMA. Granted it was a different time, but the sport was different itself. That's why we can't really debate on this subject. Fighters come and go in the ranking system and each country has their own publications. Nowadays, Japanese MMA is viewed as a disgrace. It hasn't been the same place since PRIDE disappeared. There isn't fighters like Sakuraba roaming around the gyms anymore.



    No, I wasn't using the TUF show as a tempate for the world competition argument. I simply was using that as an example of how the UFC doesn't always sign 'talent'. And there are plenty of examples of fighters who are signed with a 9-0 record or a 14-0 record. These fighters have wins over nobodies or cans. So who are we to judge a 7 fight win streak when the UFC signs a young hotshot with a similar record?

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  • doomsdayapex
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    Oh ok, thank god. I was going nuts trying to find out when Carlson was teaching Jones. I was on a research frenzy. And indeed, may he rest in peace.



    I disagree, while Liddell was past his prime, his wrestling was still considered to be top game. You're right, rolling/competitions differ from MMA bouts but whenever Rua was placed on his back he took full advantage. I mean, he got Liddell's back effortlessly. Not many fighters have ever gotten his back.



    Back in the early 2000's, Japanese MMA was considered on the same level with American, Brazilian and European MMA. Granted it was a different time, but the sport was different itself. That's why we can't really debate on this subject. Fighters come and go in the ranking system and each country has their own publications. Nowadays, Japanese MMA is viewed as a disgrace. It hasn't been the same place since PRIDE disappeared. There isn't fighters like Sakuraba roaming around the gyms anymore.



    No, I wasn't using the TUF show as a tempate for the world competition argument. I simply was using that as an example of how the UFC doesn't always sign 'talent'. And there are plenty of examples of fighters who are signed with a 9-0 record or a 14-0 record. These fighters have wins over nobodies or cans. So who are we to judge a 7 fight win streak when the UFC signs a young hotshot with a similar record?

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  • dray12
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    Wow quite a battle raging on here.....Didn't read it all but I will briefly state my opinion on the case...



    Jones is the better athlete. Jones is also more talented in that sense.

    Shogun is the more experienced and technically superior in most areas.



    It comes down to a general matter of whether you value something like experience over something like talent and athleticism.



    Personally, I'll take the experience



    IMO, Shogun has a distinct advantage on the feet. Jones is athletic and flashy, but technically, he is not on Shoguns level.



    Shogun is very susceptible to being taken down. Even though Jones doesn't set up his takedowns, he'll likely put Shogun on his back if thats what he chooses to do. Jones strength and ability to control is really something to behold.



    It is really a tough fight to call. But to me, Jon Jones best way of winning is by gNp. I don't think he should take him down so quickly, as Shogun is dangerous on the ground with leglocks, but at the same time, standing in front of Shogun is no fun. I think Jones can control Shogun on the ground, but I doubt he gets the submission, Mauricio is to technical down there, and he will exploit any small opening for a sweep or sub.



    To sum it up I would say this about the fight. Shoguns best bet is to really let lose on the feet and not worry about getting taken down, because Jones will take him down if he pleases, so while their standing, Shogun should make the most of it. Shoguns TD aint great, but his scrambling and busyness from his back are important.

    Conditioning is key!

    Jon Jones should use alot of cage and clinch work to tire Shogun, so he has an easier time with him on the ground.



    With all that said, my official prediction doesn't really follow that explanation (as a conclusion/inference form that information). I said SHOGUN BY LEGLOCK when shogun/rashad was first announce, and I'm leaning towards that....BUT I really don't know....Just think Shogun is going to win decisively and viciously or it will look like Hughes vs St Pierre 1 (Shogun = Hughes). Just can't see Jonny pullin it off for some reason....

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  • HunterB
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    and he beat a bunch of other notable fighters, only loss in Pride was due to a broken arm.

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  • GeorgeRuetiger
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    I understand that, I wasn't talking about his fights after - he gained respect before he beat any of those top-ten guys, people were already talking about him being the new Wanderlei, before he knocked out Rampage. I think the burden of proof is now off Jones' shoulders - what he's done to the guys he's done it to, have you seen how they fared against other top ten competition? Jones made them look foolish. Bonnar was taken twice to a decision by unquestionable top-ten and former champ Forrest Griffin. Matt Hammil had never been taken down before that fight. Bader was rockin folks and everyone was talking about him having the best wrestling in the division, and again Jones tossed him around like a ****ing toddler.



    Jones is in the same boat as Overeem - unproven against top competition and yet still unquestionably one of the best in the world. They both have that "He would probably kick the **** out of ____ (fill in any name you wish here)" factor, and they both only need one win against the top teir to shut everyone's mouths once and for all. Like I said, if Jones does to Shogun what he's done to everyone else (Takedown defense has always been Shogun's Achiles heel - even when he does stuff them, it's normally with judo-style reversals on the way to the floor) he will be champ until he retires.

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  • dray12
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    I gotta agree with you on the Overeem comparison (except for the fact that Overeem is WAY more experianced). It's like ok, you can say he is unproven, but how could you deny the fact he would merk so many top guys based on his insane skillset.

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  • 808scrappah
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    So what youre basically saying that the only way jon jones can beat shogun is if he shows up healthy. You sound like a typical delusional fanatic. And what happens if shogun shows up 100% and gets dominated, then what excuse are you going to use? Stop being so naive, people.

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  • 808scrappah
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    *meant to say if shogun doesnt show up healthy. i wish lowkick could add an edit button. thats why i hate commenting on my iphone.

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  • movescamp
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    Shogun has some clear advantages. Number one experience fighting top 5 guys for a decade. And a huge one bjj. Wrestlers often get caught in the transition to the ground because well...they are wrestlers. They are thinking takedown the ground and pound. Bjj guys use this to their advantage. Bones is a phenom for sure but has never faced a real bjj blackbelt.



    That being said bones is an animal. But facing who? Let's see how this fight goes before getting carried away.

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    But he's also become waaay too ****y and it seems like a teenagers attitude. He's too young and inexperienced, His nerves are gonna play a big role but Ruas fists and kicks are gonna play the main role in knocking out Jones for the first time, bad!

    Also I got money on Shogun so please dont disappoint Mauricio! :P

    Teach that egocentric chicken legged so called phenom, what a PHENOM REALLY IS!!!!!!

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  • IGMBurninPiff
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    where have u ever seen Jones act ****y? I've never seem him act ne thin other then respectful... saying he believes it's his time isn't being ****y it's being confident and having faith in a religion that he feels has placed him here. you talk about his "teenage" attitude and to me that makes him all the more amazing as a fighter and person because he still remains down to earth when asked about the hype. to Be 21,22, and 23 and have to carry the hype he has and still clearly deliver is amazing. Rua is going to be a serious test but I still think Jones wrestling will be to much for Rua, his wrestling isn't like others that give BJJ blackbelts the chance to look for arms and sweeps he's explosive the second it hits the mat giving them NO time to do anything but try and cover up to weather the storm

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    he is ****y, he talks about all his fights as if he already won them.

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  • movescamp
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    So what bjj blackbelt has jones fought? Come on. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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  • IGMBurninPiff
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    that doesn't make him ****y... it's just how he prepares for fights. seeing him winning before the fight doesn't make him ****y. when GSP made every fighter walk into the cage and get their hand raised on the ultimate fighter show did that make him a ****y coach? or them ****y fighters? NOOO it's just a mental picture giving them a mental edge. whether it works or not who knows but it's something they believe helps. you need to stop trying to hate on a kid who tries so hard to be respectful. he works hard trains hard prepares well gameplans amazing and was born with incredible natural talent. at the end of the day hes great for the sport. and whoever wins this fight thats fine they'd both make great champions based on skills and personalities.

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    Rua on form is a very tough nut to crack, but there are few other fighters I can think of that have beaten their opponents so consistently dominating as Jones has, areGSP and Aldo. There are few better tests to see if the hype is warranted than Rua, but I reckon Jones will live up the hype and dominate Rua also just he has every other opponent.



    If he does beat Rua, then the fight everyone should be calling for Is Jones vs Silva, as they are similar in size and both tremendouasly skilled. While I would love to see GSP - Silva, this is a mismatch of gross proportions when it comes to size, whereas Jones - Silva will be very evenly matched in size.

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    I like GSP alot but even he himself has doubts about the clear size difference. It would be much more interesting of a fight to see Jones vs Silva if Jones defeats Shogun. Im not gonna look past Shogun at all and expect Jones to win but this is the fight at this time is the premiere Mega Fight of any division.

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    I believe that Rua actually has the best Jiujitsu out of Black House, and his standup is very technical and powerful. If Jones beats Rua and makes it look easy, I hate to say it, but he might be a fight that Anderson would rather avoid.

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    why all the hype on jones, i dont remeber cain being hyped up as much, and i can asure you he fought better competition in his title run.

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  • movescamp
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    Exactly. The bandwagon is leaving now. All aboard!!

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  • azzkika
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    That's cos most the hype was one Brock instead. Jones has hardly been troubled in any bout so far, and is worthy of the hype. I may be wrong to dismiss someone of Ruas calibre so readily against Jones, a Rua win will certainly be no shock as he is an awesome fighter on his day, but he is coming from an injury lay off which does not bode well for him, and Jones is probably the biggest conundrum of a fighter rua has ever faced.

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  • Warcrazed
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    100% agree. Like ya Im a Jones fan, and I love his style. But common, if Rashad hadnt gotten injured, he wouldnt have this shot and woulda been 2-3 fights away provided he won them all which would most likely be against top 5 fighters.. If that HAD happened, then the hype would be warranted

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  • movescamp
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    Exactly. Good luck using logic on this one.

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  • movescamp
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    Dude he is engaged I don't think he will go out with you. Now kiss your poster and go to bed. He is good. On a roll. But hasn't faced the top tear yet. Wait fir the fight before you say so much crap. We know you love the guy. We get it.

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  • movescamp
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    Pretty tough keyboard warrior are you? Make you feel like a man. Pretty funny. Classic stuff. So how is it you are making arguments. All you say is oh yeah John jones is the best. Oh yeah John jones is awesome. Dude we know he is great. Is he the best...maybe. Does his record show that. Not even close. He has almost nothing in the books yet. Does he look impressive yeah, against pretty good guys. But not the best. Shogun is his first true test. Period anything else is speculation.

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  • movescamp
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    Well judging on how others comment on your posts I would say you are no better. I would also say you don't have a grasp of technique. You have many many posts of pure fanboy crap. I am not sure what you are talking about as far as your discussions and quite frankly it seems no one else does either. But yeah go ahead and weak me every chance you get.



    I have competed in martial arts before the ufc existed was my point. After the ufc got huge the growth of gyms did too. But about half of them are a joke. Luckily I have a relson Gracie academy next to me. And the professor actually competes professionally.



    What techniques does John jones have that are so amazing? A suplex

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  • movescamp
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    Uh ok bud. Obviously you have the issue. It took you paragraphs to accomplish an insult that doesn't make sense. I see most people disagree with you on this. Your comments don't make sense. You don't know anything about mma if you think John jones is a proven fighter. Wrist control? Is that the one technical bit you have.



    I don't know wrestling? Please tell me. Explain to me John jones technical wrestling ability. Tell me his pedigree. Tell me how beating Ryan Bader who has not fought a top guy is the test.



    You know what John jones is. The Brock Lesnar of the lhw division. No one knows if he is going to make it. Technique is everything by the way. Endurance is very important but any top 5 guy is going to has great conditioning. John jones has unknown conditioning. Shogun went 5 rounds with machida full speed ahead. Personally I think machida will beat John jones too.



    I train under Phil Cardella. We have a cage in our school. I am well aware of modern technique. I fight lightweight and if you want to come to our gym I have no problem stepping in there if you want to insult my child or my dojo. Hell I will give you a weight advantage show you bow much technique matters and expierance matter. I am 33 years old so I imagine I have about 20 years on you too.

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    They sent you to both that's very unusual I feel sorry for you. I apologize I was in the operation vigilant resolve so I have nothing else bad to say about you.



    I want to point out calling me a "pussy" made me believe you were a twelve year old. Raggin on someone for being a nuthugger seems a little more of a joke than calling some one a pussy.



    The karate comment was a discussion with Odessa who is a friend and I respect.



    I respect you if you were really in Iraq or Afghanistan as tour sense of reality is beyond most. I met Phil through the service.



    I don't like you however. I don't think you have valid points. No I don't think lil not is a top fighter anymore. Not top ten. Bader squeaked by a controversial decision.



    Jones like I say over and over is the most gifted athlete in the division. That's what he gets by on right now. He doesn't have enough fights, none against the top tear, to start making wild claims.



    I also haven't seen the level of technique say shogun, or Anderson silva, Gsp, Fedor, overeem, machida, etc had when they started.



    I put him more in the rampage, bj pen category. Extremely gifted fighters. Rampage has pretty technical boxing, bj bjj. But they started out using their raw talent to win, both got spanked by guys with technique every so often.



    Jones vert well could be the next great thing. But Anderson silva has defended his title how many times? I never heard this kind of hype about him. GSP nope not him either.



    Calling someone a pussy those are fighting words. Especially stupid over the Internet.

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    Just because you blabb words and say "you will get destroyed" doesn't mean anything. I do understand wrestling I can go toe to toe on technique all day long. We have Olympic wrestlers come through our gym.



    You have said plenty of stuff that is t true. Like comparing shoguns first fights. Jones isn't fighting shogun ten years ago he is fighting the one of today who whipped machida's ass twice. No one has whipped machida's ass. Did you see what machida did to bonar in his prime? What about Franklin in his prime? What about Silva? What about rashad? That's a real record. I didn't even mention sokoju or the other so so fighters machida walked through. Shogun destroyed machida. First one was kinda close. I would say machida beat rampage too.



    Bones has fought that level period. He may get there but not yet.



    Oh and an insult is not an insult. You call an Asian man a jerk or a chink which one is worse? You would have to study psychology to understand.



    Just like saying "I destroyed you" doesn't mean anything. Cause it's not true. Well except in your mind.

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    Right enjoy fairy tale land.

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    What else? a spinning elbow? what about his use of combinations? The man is an athletic phenomenon. That is what has him winning. He probably trains incredibly hard. But as far as his technique not sure what is so amazing. If you said his timing, or his twitch motor skills I would agree with you. His transitions are very athletic, but I wouldn't say technical. he hasn't been training very long so he has a lot to learn.



    The impressive thing about jones is his athleticism is that much better than most.



    Shogun however has amazing technique and expeirance. The way he turns his hips over and gets on the ball of his planted leg in a split second is scary. He is very intelligent and waits for openings by confusing people with an assault. His plum work is insane and actually knows how to redirect his opponent while kneeing them in the face or ribs so they can't get their balance.



    Shoguns jiujitsu is amazing too. He has great sweeps. You rarely see him stay down for long. Kinda like chuck Liddell. When wrestlers face bjj blackbelts they have to be aware that (and even when they are powerful) the takedown is a great transition time for submissions. For instance a reversal into a kimura. When the fighters hit he ground the impact can be te perfect time to get the arm past the waist and into the back area.



    Shogun has nasty leglocks. When a Kick gets caught is a perfect time to use a reversal on a takedown. By putting your other leg through the middle of your opponents on the way to the ground you can position yourself to twist under their legs and end up with a heel hook.



    Those are the types of things jones doesn't have. As well as a record beating the top of the division. He beat another young fighter with a record of not fighting the top of the division. He beat a stephon bonnar who is well past his prime. The guy has taking a beating for years. So why dont you just get off the hype train until he beats shogun.



    On the other hand shogun doesn't have an 84" reach or the raw talent of jones.

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    Jones is not ewen champion yet let the guy winn and defend the belt than do the talking is only one Usain bolt in MMA is Fedor no one alse if Jones stayes undefited for 10 years he can be Usain Bolt .When Machida KO'd Rashad he loocked like unbeatable till he faced Shogun i tell you Shogun in good form can beat any one in any devision. Jones is big strong and fast is gona be dificult fight

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    Typical Fedor fan, always having to insert Fedor's great name into every topic. Leave the damn guy alone, Fedor doesn't need anymore idiots saying how great he is, he has enough of those in the M-1 management.

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    Just read through some of mokoko's comments in his profile. I gotta say that he is the definition of fanboy to the nth degree. You my friend are definitely delusional.

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    Its going to be epic fight...

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    i agree, we havnt even seen jon jones take any damage in a fight yet and i dont think hes ready for the level of striking that shogun has, or bjj. the only question in my mind is what kind of shape shogun will be in after the injury/ layoff. if hes close to 100% he should win

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    Yeah, reading my posts sure shows I'm basing my opinion on one fight... dummy.



    Surprised you didn't just resort to calling me a "nuthugger" and be done with it. - Poor man's argument.

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    @Jesse & Pigu: Thank you!



    There appears to be too much nut-hugging when it comes to the topic of Jon Jones.

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    People who call others nut-huggers are usually bigger nut huggers themselves. There's nothing wrong with defending your favorite fighter. I like Jon Jones and you vice-versa. Leave it at that. If you don't like Jon Jones stay off any related-news about him.

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    i guess alot of people think his nut sweat tastes quite refreshing.

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    This goes beyond nut hugging. It's like stalker sit.

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    Houston Alexander will NEVER be as good as Jon Jones. Shogun and Jones are both great fighters...end of story....

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    durrrrhhhhh

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    I remember when Vitor Belfort won his first UFC belt at age 19, a lot of people said that he was Michael Jordan of this sport.

    Now, Jones comes as Bolt of MMA. As much as I like this guys and I think that is very much talented, but it is too early to say that. He still needs to go through Shogun and defend his title, if he wins, not in one occassion, which would be very hard in this the most stacked division. In this division belts change hands every year: Chuck-Rampage-Griffin-Rashad-Machida-Shogun. With every fight, he improves himself, but he gets exposed too. I wish him luck in his future fights, but not in this one because Shogun is one of my favorite fighters. Shogun all the way!

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    Nothing wrong with defending your favorite fighter. No disrespect towards Mauricio Rua, but I predict Jon Jones is going to take the title by third round D'arce choke.

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    In an alternate universe. If jones wins it's tko.

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    Usain Bolt would knock out Jones with his speed!

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    I think Jones is a true fighter and shows what future fighters are going to have to be to compete with that kind of talent. the sport is evolving

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    yep they are both black,LMAO

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    had a strange thought....

    this article is very p.c

    no mention when comparing similarities that both are black guys.

    Yet if another athlete had similar physique and attributes in their respected sport...and were white (or another race) then there wouldnt be a thought for discussion. No ones going bring up comparing Michael Phelps with Jon Jones.

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    One is the fastest man ever, one is a good fighter who hasn't reached the top yet. I don't see the comparison beyond the fact they look alike.

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    More like Usain would run away and escape getting hurt from Jones with his speed.

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    Forest griffin = Usain bolt of mma.

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    In UFC every hyped fighter is Usain Bolt of MMA just like Lesanr was the badest man on Planet the Frealk of Nature until they get KO'd

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    imagine the explosiveness these sprinters would bring to the cage if they trained for mma

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