Chael Sonnen praises Jon Jones, but blasts the Light Heavyweight division

Posted on April 12, 2011, 12:41 AM by Joey Santosus
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(Jon Jones) brings integrity, he brings class, he's good for the industry and he's good for the sport. The hot topic that everybody should be talking about is that he's been the champion for three weeks and not one coward at 205 has challenged him (...)  The one guy they say gets to fight him (Rashad Evans) comes out and says, 'I don't want to fight him. If you don't want to fight him, go (...) If you're all scared of a 23-year-old kid, turn your gloves in, sign your pink slip and show yourself the door. - For more from Chael Sonnen's appearance on Ariel Helwani's The MMA Hour, visit MMAFighting.com

While making an appearance on "The MMA Hour," former UFC Middleweight title contender Chael Sonnen had nothing but positive things to say about newly crowned Light Heavyweight Champion Jon "Bones" Jones, however the rest of the division's competitors were a different story.  Sonnen blasted the entire weight class for what he perceives as ducking the champ, zeroing in on Rashad Evans, who showed a reluctance in challenging his former Jackson's MMA teammate prior to signing on to meet Jones later this year.

With Sonnen's legal troubles, as well as his CSAC suspension, now behind him, the Team Quest fighter has set his sights on returning to the octagon. Though there has not yet been a date set, UFC President Dana White recently stated that he would like to see him return to action "A.S.A.P."

Photo: Chael Sonnen, right, fights Yushin Okami at UFC 104 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California, on October 24, 2009. Francis Specker.


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  • lil-evil
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    Got to love Sonnen for not giving a sh** who's feathers he ruffles with his comments.

    Reply 2 years ago
  • 808scrappah
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    Sonnen sure has a mouth, talking shiit about Rashad Evans? He needs to just shut the fuuck up and worry about beating Spitsbing. Screw GSP-Silva, I wanna see this "Silva vs. Sonnen" bullshiit settled.

    Reply 2 years ago
  • ogobska
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    cant wait sonnen to go lhw then make a run for the title, wow it will be fun thinking he will fight rampage,shogun,machida,griffin,etc... and lastly jon jones wow

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  • David Saucier
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    Sonnen had a stint in the UFC at LHW

    Reply 2 years ago
  • Riddle-jitsu
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    was tht him or squeeled when babalu had him in a leg lock?

    Reply 2 years ago
  • dropkickmurphy
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    I like Sonnen, once you get over the fact that he has been caught cheating, and that he will steal your wallet and then help you look for it.

    He is on two years probation, he is on a one year suspension from the sport and he still has room to criticize what other people are doing...you gotta be a fan of a guy like that.

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  • Zadok83
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    Chael still doing what he does best (besides sticking syringes in his butt), running his mouth. If that how he feels about the LHW division, why won't he move up and prove his point? Talk is cheap, especially coming from Chael's mouth.

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  • jackthedrinker89
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    God i wish RR would stop writing ****in books for comments....

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Not gonna happen. If I've got something to say, I'm ****ing saying it. Get over it.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    @ DropkickMurphy.

    Hey, man! Sonnen resembles that remark!. . .lol.



    At least Sonnen would help us look for our wallets. . .lol.



    Good post. I was amused.

    Reply 2 years ago
  • DaddyLongStrokes
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    Go have a cry in the corner before you post, its embarassing

    Reply 2 years ago
  • rock111
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    Sonnen will beat silva:)

    Reply 2 years ago
  • drunkslug
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    I don't know if I'm looking forward to the fight or the trash talk more. Regardless, I see Sonnen winning both.

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    hey homie ... sure he does ! but he can fight ! and can back up his mouth ! off the wall wrestler and has a great stand up !

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Aha! DaddyLongStrokes and I might be new best friends. . .lol.

    Hilarious! Sounds like something CPS himself would have said. :)

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  • 808scrappah
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    What's so embarrassing about my post? How far do you have Sonnen's diick up your asss? Trust me buddy, i'd probably fuuck you up and most keyboard warriors in this lowkick forum. Shiit, i guarantee you more than half of you are fat fuucks. Instead of hiding behind display pics of your boyfriends, why don't you go post pics of your real selves. I train almost every****ingday whether its surfing, hunting, or fighting? Now hurry up, get out of your fuccking basement and go eat your dinner. BITCHASS

    Reply 2 years ago
  • azzkika
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    Sounds like someone got bullied at school and needs to make himself feel tough.

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  • ViciousNature1
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    you look like a brittle little bitch...Internet Warroir maybe?

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Jeezus. Maybe a little bit much, ****er? I've seen your "I'm so tough because I've got a shirtless picture of me with my hands up" profile, get over yourself dude. You're way over-compensating for that little bit of manhood you've (supposedly) got in your pants.



    "I TRAIN ALMOST EVERY DAY. I SAY MY PRAYERS AND EAT MY VITAMINS, BROTHER! AND I CAN BEAT UP ANYONE IN THE WORLD, EVEN IF I DON'T KNOW WHO OR WHAT THEY ARE!!!"



    That's you.

    That's what you sound like, right now.

    Get over yourself, ****head.



    And no, I'm not a "fat ****" and even if I was, what the **** does that matter?

    Ben Franklin (for his time) was a "fat ****." He was still smarter than anyone else in the room (generally.)



    6'3". 210 lbs. I generally workout 5-6 days a week.

    Ex-baseball. Ex-football. Ex-basketball. And I have trained (a bit, though i plan to train more) in MMA with a friend of mine who will be a professional MMA fighter (though, unlike you, I can admit that he beats my ass because he knows what he's doing, and I'm a big enough man to admit when someone's better than me at something.)



    Now ya happy?



    Now you can go and picture me while you're jacking it, if you like, since I think that might be what you're after.

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  • doberman
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    bwahahahaha great post RR !!!

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Thank you doberman. I appreciate it.

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  • DaddyLongStrokes
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    Lmao, i just saw how you look like and I wouldnt be calling anyone out here if I looked like that. Im 6'5" 223 lbs. I would head kick the threaded eyebrows off your face XD

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  • Rochefort
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    @808scrappah?

    Oh yeah? My dad could beat up your dad.

    neener neener neener.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    See 808? DLS's even bigger than I am.



    Best if you walk on home, now, child, or stop running your yapper like you're the ****ing big man on campus.



    Word of advice: don't challenge people to a fight across the internet. Makes you look like even more of a jackass than your profile already makes you look.

    Reply 2 years ago
  • garry_blackbelt
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    now now there is no need for that ! shit ! scrappah is just given his opinion ! i dont like bullys ! and if your 6.5 220 lbs ! why would you even think that sh!t homie ! i am 6.5 238 lbs ! and i could kick your ass! but too say it ! come on !

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  • 808scrappah
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    Oh please, talk all your shiit....headkick....bwhahahahahah! That's my domain you piece o' shiit....look, i wouldn't have gotten in with you if you didn't talk shiit, bitchstrokes. I never said anything about you sonnen fanboys, until you started yapping away. KEEP ON HIDING BEHIND YOUR SCREENS!!!! I get way more head than you can imagine!!!!!!

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  • DaddyLongStrokes
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    More head then we can imagine? ....We dont need to know how flexible you are bro. Keep that info to yourself

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Love it! Hilarious. First that dude challenges us to fights through the internet, then he brags about how much "head" he gets. Seriously 808? You are WAAAAY overcompensating.



    You think "getting head" makes you more of a man? It just means you can get some ugly drunk bitch to pop open her gullet and swallow that inch-and-a-half of American Justice that you've got for her.



    Idiot.

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  • azzkika
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    PS Scrappah, Sonnen Silva did get settled. Silva already won that one in case youmissed it.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    I would LOVE to see Silva V Sonnen II. Chael beat his ass for about 24 minutes in a 25 minute fight.

    Okami's next in line though. Feed Okami (who stands next to NO chance) to Silva, then give Silva and Chael another go if GSP isn't moving up, for sure.



    Either way, I think it would be an epic fight, but I think Chael would come out on top this time.



    @ 808scrappah. He CAN'T worry about "Spitsbing" yet. They haven't announced the fight. . .lol. I mean, we all want it to happen, but it hasn't been announced. No announcement, no contract., no fight. . . yet.



    At least we all know Chael has no problems calling out ANYONE, however insane the challenge might be. He's called out Rashad (who is much bigger) but more than that, he said he'd beat the shit out of Lesnar before, too.



    ****ing 270 lbs worth of Lesnar!!!!



    Chael is the single greatest promotion machine in boxing, pro-wrestling, football, curling. . . you name it, he's the best.



    Chael be praised.

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  • 808scrappah
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    DAMN SONNEN....(with my head down)... you're right he is a great promoting machine...I'll watch all his fights and hope he gets the living shiit beat out of him someday. I'll have my middle finger up in the air when that day comes. Until then he'll be stealing my money.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Lol. I loved it. Admittance is the first step towards healing.



    Yes, my friend, you are NOT alone. All of AS's fans (bandwagoner's that most of them are) are firmly entrenched against Sonnen. All of Bisping's fans (which is most of England.) All of Wandy's fans. All of Marquardt's fans.



    All of EVERYONE who likes a middleweight who isn't named Chael Patrick Sonnen, comes out and pays their hard-earned American green-backs to watch Chael on the off-chance he gets his ass-whooped.



    And everyone ELSE (who loves Chael) tunes in to either A) watch him beat some po' sumbitch down, or B) listen to whatever the hell is going to come out of his mouth next.



    If he was 10 years younger, he'd be Dana White's own personal wet-dream-factory every night.



    He's a promoter's best friend, and he's the best talker in the business, and you know that half of what he says is pure, unadulterated, entertainment and mind-games.

    More than that, for the most part, he backs up his talk.

    Maybe not perfectly, but he's the #2 middleweight in the world for a reason.



    Unlike Nick Diaz who comes off like he's always on his menstrual cycle -even when there's no reason for Nick's surliness- Chael comes off as an intelligent, patriotic, slightly demented fighter who is absolutely confident in his abilities (as every fighter should be) and who has a silver tongue.



    Win, lose, draw. Everyone wants to see him.



    CPS is my own personal hero, but for you he's the antichrist. We're both still buying his next PPV.

    Chael's winning either way, and so is Dana.



    Ain't capitalism grand? ;)



    Chael be praised, baby. CPS be praised. :)

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    why dont you like soonen ?

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  • rock111
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    AGREED:)GIT OVER THE SONNEN HATE:) SONNEN IS AWESOME:) HE MAY BE A PRICK AT TIMES BUT HE IS HONEST AND ENTERTAINING:)

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  • falcon4917
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    honest!lol.

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    yes sonnen is a awesome guy ! great figther too .

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  • WingChun
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    @ Rusted



    Sonnen is intelligent and patriotic?



    I thought he was a liar and a cheat; and that's not hate, it's just a summation of the facts (of his life) over the last year.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    To say Sonnen cheated due to the testosterone thing is incorrect.

    I'm not necessesarily arguing that he didn't, I'm just saying to automatically assume that he intended to cheat when he has a legitimate reason for testosterone, is incorrect.



    Whether he did or didn't intend to cheat isn't clear, and so I'm not going to judge him for that.



    So, no, it's NOT a summation of the "facts" over the last year. It's a summation of every jaded fan whose been let down by a Lance Armstrong or a Manny Ramirez or a Roger Clemens version of the facts.



    Chael didn't use steroids and NO ONE in the situation said that he did, but everyone attaches him to it because of the stigma attached to professional athletes testing positive for ANYTHING.



    Beyond that, I said he COMES OFF as intelligent and patriotic.

    He's very quick-witted, and he wants to come off as a patriot.



    That's his persona in the public eye, regardless of whatever part of it is true or however much the volume is turned up on that.



    I also mentioned "slightly demented" in that same sentence, but apparently you didn't get that I was referring to his PERSONA, not necessarily the man himself in his personal life.

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    yes sonnen is very intelligent person ! rite too the point too !

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  • WingChun
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    @ Rusted



    His use of steroids and cheating - I did not assume it. It has clearly been established by CSAC. As to his medical condition, I find the whole contention dubious, to say the least. I would certainly be interested in knowing when it became a medical condition.



    I referenced him as a liar - I don't see any cogent defense of him (by you) on that charge. I believe we have a court verdict and penalty that establishes that and it's interesting that you'd raise the issue of Lance Armstrong. Given his statements and denial-of -statement(s) by Sonnen on the subject of Armstrong, I wouldn't have thought any fan or defender of CS would even go there.



    As to what he comes across as - he doesn't wow me with his intellect. Yes, he's funny, but in a bullying, loud-mouth kind of way and to be blunt, he should probably lay off of it, by virtue of the fact that his own personal life is a road-apple for derision and ridicule.



    As to his patriotism - how, when or where has that ever been established or demonstrated? I have never once heard Sonnen speak of The Constitution, Liberty, Freedom of Speech, limited government, a sound dollar or rail against foreign wars of occupation and empire. To the best of my knowledge, his only real interest in patriotism was running for (state) elected office. To me, that's more about wanting a job, a decent income and having people kiss one's backside. I do not see it as a job of "service" or patriotism.



    Sonnen being slightly demented - first, he nor does anyone have a persona. You are not a person, you are a being; a human being to be exact. A persona is nothing more than a legal construct. In regard to him being a slightly demented human being, I am not in disagreement. I think anyone that has done the things Sonnen has been accused of and caught for in this past year, is demented.



    Concluding - I say all of this as a former fan of Sonnen's. I defended him through all the allegations, but then the allegations were proven and Sonnen did not have, IMO, an adequate and acceptable explanation of his actions. Subsequently, I have written him off. With Sonnen you never know if he's being honest or lying through his teeth with a big smile on his face. It's why he would have made a natural politician.



    I can understand and appreciate your spirited defense of him, but the verdict is in for most of us - he's a cheat and a liar and he'll never be champ of anything; let alone the 185 division.



    Cheers,



    Wing Chun

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  • 808scrappah
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    Wing Chun is an animal. I always enjoy reading his posts , whether I agree or disagree. SHARP!!!

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  • WingChun
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    @ 808



    You are too kind. :-)

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  • falcon4917
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    What a waste of a fan. Chael be praised for what always being second best and cheating and lying and not giving a sh*t. The only reason so far he is second best right now is by modification to himself. Real hero I guess.lol.

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    hey now ! comparing sonnen to diaz ! is like comparing apples and oranges ! they both are differant as people both are very good fighters ! who cars about what personality they have ! diaz is a mean when he fights ! lol sonnen too ! that makes a great fight ! both are 1 of my favorites. and both got skills and a heart of a lion ! and people get thier moneys worth when they fight !

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    lol

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    If my favorite fighters had to win every match to be my favorite fighters, I'd be an Anderson Silva bandwagon-hopper.



    Please see above argument for my comments on the "cheating" issue.



    Also, are you going to imply that Anderson Silva really gives a sh*t about HIS fans or the UFC or anything else in comparison?

    After that Demian Maia incident, obviously your "best" in the business doesn't have any respect for anything, either.



    What AS did to Maia was far more disrespectful to the man, the UFC, the title, the fans, and the sport of MMA than ANYTHING Sonnen has done, even if he DID -for the sake of argument- try to cheat.



    And I'm a waste of a fan just because I don't like what you like? Please. Get over yourself, lover.

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  • falcon4917
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    What AS did to Maia was a showcase IMO and I was very impressed until the last 2 rounds. But who was supposed to take the belt from him? If you're disrespected in the cage then DEAL with it or lose. Sonnen likes to call out cheaters when he is one himself. He called out Lance and then tested far above the regular levels of testosterone and even if it was a reaction to the dose he legally needs it still shows he used that jump in testosterone to his advantage. He is not much of a man naturally I guess.

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    sonnen is not a cheater . sonnen is coming back too take care of our new ENGLISH BAD ASS BISPING ! LOL THE BAD ASS FROM ENGLAND......... SON! :)

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    A showcase of what, precisely?

    Being a giant c*ckbag?



    Seriously, if you thought AS was putting on a "showcase" of MMA talent, you're delusional.

    It was just the ultimate "**** you" to a guy he thought he was better than.

    And you know what?

    Silva's right.

    He's MUCH better than Demian Maia.



    That's still no reason to act like he did.

    Hell, he could have acted like that for 4 rounds and then finished him and I wouldn't have had anything to say, because it would have been "act like a jackass to prove my point, and then REALLY prove it by finishing the fight."

    He didn't do that. He clowned around for 5 rounds of time that a LOT of other fighters built up the card towards.



    There's a reason Dana said he was the most disgusted he had ever been and threatened to cut Silva.



    It was disrespectful of the sport, the fans, the title, the other fighters that were on that card, and HIS BOSS.



    Lest we forget that everyone else who was on that card is pretty much forgotten because AS wanted to act like a child.



    And if all you AS fans could see past that brazilian junk swinging in your face, you might be able to see how disrespectful it was.

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  • falcon4917
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    I do feel it was disrespectful but to no more of a degree than anyone else being disrespectful. I don't condone it but I did enjoy it up until the final 2 rounds where I couldn't make sense of it anymore. I still feel Maia should have just ran at him and did something about it since he was the one trying to get the belt.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Maybe Maia should have.



    He probably shouldn't have even been in the cage with Silva.

    It's obvious he didn't belong there.



    I believe AS could have finished him at ANY point he wanted to, in that fight. The disrespectful thing is that he didn't and that he spent 5 rounds making potential UFC fans have a reason NOT to watch.



    If they want to see dancing around like that, they can go watch Michael Flatley.



    I love how you AS fans can go out and say "Oh, Sonnen's such an a$$hole for talking" etc. etc. etc. and then go out and essentially say "I don't see too much wrong with what AS did to Maia or the ppv or Dana. . . he was just proving his superiority."



    Look, I don't think too many people would argue against Silva being superior to Maia. He just is. He's a freak of nature.

    And, fine, if AS wanted to prove his superiority. . . dance around all you want, but you goddamn well better finish that fight, or else you just spent 5 rounds doing the hokey-pokey with yourself.

    . . .On a main event.

    . . . In the UFC's first trip to Abu Dhabi.

    . . . thumbing his nose at Dana all the while.



    He stole the life from that entire card and made the entire thing about him being an asshole, and didn't even put up a good fight.



    And he wasn't even apologetic about how he had disrespected everyone.



    It's like how people used to argue, "Oh, that's just Manny being Manny" about Manny Ramirez.

    Really? I don't think that's just "Manny being Manny."

    That's "Manny being a stuck-up asshole."



    Sonnen managed to give more disrespect for the sport and fans than Sonnen has ever accomplished.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    *Silva managed to give more disrespect for the sport and fans than Sonnen has ever accomplished.



    Typo.

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  • japanegro23
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    I don't like AS but I really really can't stand Sonnen. He is known more for his mouth than his fighting.

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  • CRWHITLOCK
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    Rashad is not "much bigger" than Chael Sonnen. At best they are the same size, Chael may even have some size on him.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    As far as height yes, but Rashad is built stockier, I think.

    He has fought at Heavyweight, though.



    Hmm.



    On second thought, I guess I could be wrong on that, though, and you may well be right.



    One way or another, he still threatened Lesnar, and HE does have a bit of size advantage on Chael.



    Who knows, maybe Rashad will drop to MW after Jones hands him his ass and maybe Chael and Rashad will get to duke it out after all.



    I know I'd watch it.

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    There is no other guy on this planet that has 11 losses and talks so much shit. Not to mention that he's a cheater.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Two guys.



    Phil Baroni, 13 losses.

    Tito Ortiz comes close with 8 losses.



    Give Ortiz 3 more fights in his career and I can nearly guarantee that he'll have 11 losses total.



    More importantly, NO FIGHTER, win or lose, talks as much shit as Chael, so your point is moot.



    Chael is the shit-talking master.



    Please see previous argument against Sonnen's cheating. I'm not typing that shit back out again.

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  • badblueboy
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    34 y.o. men with all the back acne? He got into puberty after the Okami fight.



    http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2010/9/19/1699004/connecting-the-dots-the-ufc-chael



    http://urdirt.com/2010/09/20/quick-pic-chael-sonnens-backne-from-ufc-104-109-and-117/



    the first one is funny... :)

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  • scrappymcgee
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    lmfao give tito 3 more losses hell still be talkin shit

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  • Zadok83
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    All that back acne is one of the signs of steroid use. Hypogonadism can also be cause by prolonged steroid use. FACT.

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  • thealex
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    chaels a beast no matter how crooked

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  • garry_blackbelt
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    sonnen has it allll ! great wrestler ! great stand up ! how many guys stood with anderson ? how many took the fall ! but sonnen made silva run back wards while he sonnen was punching his face in ! 1 of the all time greatest silva screw ups for 5 rounds ! i know what silva can do. but sonnen has gotten into silvas head ! as far as bisping ! sonnen is going too make bisping his b!tch put him on his back and beat him up . or or maybe get a stand up war and sonnen ko s bisping ,.

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  • Jamie Kennedy
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    War Uncle Chael and your shit talking haha

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Thank you, Jamie.



    I was waiting for you to pop up on here. . .lol.



    Uncle Chael would throw his shoe at these AS-nuthugger guys on here and they better shine it before they bring it back to him.



    :)

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  • falcon4917
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    Seems you'll be the one shining it and prepping his n*ts for you know what.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Oh, you rascal. You were making a c*ck-smoking joke there, weren't you?

    Ho, ho, ho. . . what a rare breed of joke.

    Such an inventor you are.



    I DO know what, as a matter of fact.

    Like Jack Black said in "Tropic Thunder":



    "Cradle the balls. . . stroke the shaft. . . and swallow the gravy. Get over here and let's do this."



    I'd also shine Dana's head. . . This one's true, though.



    Oh, I'm sorry, did I make those comments too Petruzelli-an?



    Are you uncomfortable dealing with this sort of thing because you're not secure enough in YOUR heterosexuality to make self-deprecating gay jokes? You can only call other people gay for your amusement?



    Too bad.



    But hey, at least I don't have the n*ts of a guy with a 12-year old boys' voice in my mouth.

    Go Silva, right?

    . . .Right?. . .



    *cricket chirps*

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  • falcon4917
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    I just knew you would get that joke because of it's wide usage and the appropriate context. How is it self depreciating to make a gay joke?



    Silva = Small voice, big balls



    Chael = Big voice + Steroids = small balls.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    I was referring to myself MAKING a self-deprecating gay joke.

    Or, if you prefer it, an ironic gay joke.



    There were no steroids, and to claim such kinda makes you an idiot.



    Read what the commission said.

    They never mention steroids, they mention testosterone.

    Big difference there cappy.

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  • falcon4917
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    It was steroids for the sake of boosting testosterone in defecient athletes. Which is approved but still should be banned. If you not born manly enough than you're just not manly enough.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Okay, well, Lance Armstrong had a medical condition too. Guess he's not manly enough (anymore) to ride the bike.

    All those people that wear glasses or contact lenses or have prosthetic body parts. . . they don't deserve a shot either.



    By your logic, here, at least.



    Steroids are synthetic and don't do ONLY what testosterone (even elevated levels) do.

    There's a bit more to it.



    When athletes get caught with something designed for race-horses in their piss, then you've got yourself a clearly ban-worthy substance.

    Testosterone is naturally occuring, whether your levels are low, high, or average.

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  • falcon4917
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    You're right they are naturally occuring and so should be at natural levels. He has naturally occuring testosterone too and the only reason it would be that way was if he abused such things earlier. A prosthetic limb would not be an advancement in a physical situation compared to a natural arm. Steroid treatment would be an advancement to a normal man. If you cut off your arm for a prosthetic one you would be worse off in the sport but if you took enhancement technologies for your testosterone levels that put you 4 times the regualr level that would be advancing your abilities. Unless the prosthetic limb was a cyborg unit with 5 times the regular strength and manouverability of a regualr limb it is not an advancement to normal human function.

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  • falcon4917
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    You probably noticed I didn't have to say the term hugger because it's one you always use. Familiarity breeds contempt.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    I have used "nuthugger" a grand total of fewer than 10 times in my life, so to say "you always use" it is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?



    The boards always use it, but generally not me personally.

    GENERALLY.

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  • falcon4917
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    okay cool but you just used it in the comment I replied to so I replied in that sense.

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  • Boner89
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    Say what you want about him he makes a valid point here.

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  • MD777
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    Once I've been lived from Portland,OR and Chael Sonnen was one of my favorite fighter.But after he has been caught for cheated and a big fraud betrayed your community by present them and that he is better than Lance Amstrong without drug power enhance and let's be honest Cheal without steriod i personal don't think he is good enough to defeated Nate and Okami and accused big & lil Nog just like a free toys from meal and Silva is a crook .But after all you're a badass crook and Silva used the technique from big & lil Nog to submitted you asshole as he is makes a promise and made you pay for the price big time looser !

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    I love Phonics, yes I do.

    I'm Hooked on Phonics, how about you?

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  • falcon4917
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    Amazing response.

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  • falcon4917
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    In a nutshell. good post.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    If he could speak coherent English it might have been.

    He can't, so it wasn't.

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  • falcon4917
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    You mean type, I for one don't care if a person does a good job with his grammar if I can at least get what he's saying.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Well bully for you.

    You might not care about it, but ask any business person, writer, etc. if it's important to have good grammar and be able to communicate effectively.



    I wouldn't ask for perfection. Only coherence.



    If you can't manage even the basics of syntax which are very simple, then I can't bring myself to even argue against your point. . . if you can't communicate, then it doesn't matter.

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  • falcon4917
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    He's not in business with you so no point. I can understand exactly what he's saying. This isn't a site that judges grammar. I am pretty sure you can understand what he's saying and if you can't then it's an awful shame that with all that intelligence you can't put a very easy puzzle in his words. He can't write very well and you can't reason very well so should you both be banned?

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    I didn't say the site judges grammar, and I didn't say anything about anyone getting banned.



    I also didn't say I couldn't understand his post. I can understand it quite well. . . however, if you're going to come and try to communicate with others, you might want to have at least the basics down.

    Otherwise, you're just some quasi-illiterate d-bag.



    Either write like you understand English, learn the basics, or don't try to make a point in an argument that is being held in written communication. . . and I would likely say the same thing to a Chael-fan who wrote that incoherently.



    He automatically discounted everything he had to say by typing like a 1st grader.

    It's not worth reading or arguing if it's not coherent English in the most basic expected ways.

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  • falcon4917
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    So people that are challenged can't have a meaningful debate with you? I know a guy who is actually my best friend and when he goes shopping for groceries he basically has to see a picture to know what he is getting because he can't read very well. He also has been the crutch of many people in need of psycological and traumatic stress because he is very intelligent and wise. He can't read very well but can shut down just about anyone in a debate. Would you listen to Wanderlei, Vitor, Werdum, Shogun, or JDS if they were trying to get something through to you?

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  • Rigo
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    Has ever been a guy that controversial and equally cool as Sonnen?

    Can't wait to see him fight again, who ever it is

    Bisping , Wanderlei or Silva he will bring it no matter what!



    That's what i like to see! a real fighter!

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  • falcon4917
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    He definetly brings it and puts on good performances.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Oh. Mah. Gawd. . . A word of appreciation for Sonnen? From Falcon4917?



    I'm amazed but happy at the same time.



    *Insert Giant Demented Smile Here*

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  • falcon4917
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    I am okay with facts.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Fact is, I appreciate that you are at least willing to admit Chael brings it.



    Just like I'm willing to admit that AS is one of the best fighters on the planet, and is a freak of nature.



    We've found common ground, I feel.



    Now we can all go sing kum-bay-****ing-ya. . .lol. . . Okay, maybe not, but it's a start.

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  • falcon4917
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    Maybe we actually love each other and all this venting is our frustration with the fact we need these arguements to stay in contact.lol. It's cool we agree on those points and all this argueing IMO is in good fun for our own entertainment anyway. We like this site because unlike our homes we have much more common ground in the love for MMA than our families have with us.lol. MY wife doesn't give 2 cents for MMA and I moved to a place where I have few friends.

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    In short, I'm lonely.

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    @ falcon



    ...nowt that's funny.

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    Haha so falcon you should write a book homie. Man some good debating today for sure!

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    All in a day @lowkick. You guys know yourself.

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    ha ha the comment here are gold

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    if Sonnen were to fight at 205 he would get KO'd by Rashad, subbed by Shogun, subbed by Griffin, KO'd by Rampage, dominated by Franklin and Hamill and Bonnar, and absolutely destroyed by Jones

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    Sonnen would do good at 205, Franklin , Hamil and Bonnar would get completely destroy. But as far as Champion welll maybe not because he is a Middleweight.

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    RR thats a wall of txt you you posting, bout to be as long as the wall in chyna lol

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    hahaha I'm surprise his praising Jones, probably cause his scared, lol! If there's anybody who he should be praising hi AS after getting that submission, Lol! chael is a cheap political narrow-head F*****

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    Cheatin Chael is a piece of dog s***.He's a cheating thieving liar.

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    chael cant even finish a fight he lets the judges decide! i have been a silva fan since he fought Jose Barreto in 2000! and only 9 people in silva career have made it past round 3! so to say silva cant finish is a joke! fact is he is a true champion and always finds a way to win!

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    less talkin cheal and more triangle def.

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