Carlos Condit's camp wants Georges St. Pierre, not Nick Diaz rematch

Don't be scared Homie!



Sorry, someone had to say it.

I like Diaz....and I still "weak'ed you!!

I can understand why Condit would want to hold out for GSP it will be his biggest pay day to date, he will prob make more money in that one fight, then all his other fights combined.

maybe they said no so they will have to be bribed to make the rematch,

and he gets the same money for two fights

I heard they agreed to fight Kos already, I personally think he should fight Jake ellenberger after he knocks Sanchez out. Diaz should fight Fitch, two top guys coming off a loss, and it would be nice to see Diaz against a wrestler something he has avoided for years.

Kos looked like shit why would he fight that bum?

Kos would beat Condit easily.

Why rematch when you have a shot at the real title?? He already beat Diaz. Now he has to prove himself against the Welterweight champ himself, GSP.

Translation of the reading above:



Ploc, ploc, ploc, ploc, ploc....

hmm, I wonder how Carlos plans on out-greg-jacksoning the greg-jacksecutioner, GSP.

he didnt beat him

Don't be such a boob. You act like this your 1st MMA fight. Not EVERY fight is the epic battle you wish it would be. As if Condit hadn't been consistently finishing almost everybody. Sometimes a fighter has to adapt a different approach against an opponent in order to get the W.



If that bothers you and you are looking for a guaranteed epic war with unworldly thrills and chills stick to WWE or pop in 300 or something. This is a real sport. Real competition.



Besides, regardless of your feelings about the gameplan, Condit landed the most strikes and did the most damage. He won. DEAL.

It's a paper title..... means nothing....Diaz vs Condit 2 needs to happen!!

Why is it a paper title? Because a bunch of childish fanboys are upset that the fight didn't go as they planned? Sure, Diaz could have (and probably would have) won had Condit fought Nick's fight, but Carlos was smarter than that. I can see how that makes all the little 209'ers angry inside, but for a guy that claims he is the most well-rounded fighter in the world, he sure looked one-dimensional on Saturday.

Guy above: absolutely correct..and Entity, you are like the angriest little keyboard warrior...you've had a good cry now. Your boy lost. Get over it.

MMA Machine you phucktard azzwipe.When you type childish Diaz fanboys, you are attacking every single person who likes Diaz.

I think people like you are pathetic pieces of shiit.

Obviously you have more hate for Diaz than anyone has for Carlos. Go put a rope around your neck and jump from a tree you azzwholee.

or not

Turn your cap lock off

I don't think he'll pull that one off again,and so does condit.First he wants to get manhandled by GSP,cause that's whats gonna happen.

i wouldnt be surprised if condit v gsp went the whole 5 rounds with about ten strikes. gsp will want to lay n pray while condit will want to kick and run

im tired of immediate rematches. i mean damn condit outstruck him it wasn't that controversial he landed more significant strikes throughout the fight. diaz did nothing but walk forward and taunt him.

At least a few of us make sense......

Cage is so right! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i65O5nO6dv8

This video made my day :D Thanks mate :D

condit turned his back and ran at least twenty times, that is a submission, condit did not show up to fight and he didnt fight if the fight werent in a cage it would have ended half a mile from where it started with diaz just walking towards condit, thats not a fight thats one guy wanting to go home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i65O5nO6dv8

Nate posted this earlier

like it says Condit has been messed round enough he should of got his shot ages ago! they can not take it away from him again. let him fight GSP like he deserves!

Amen!

This whole "immediate rematch" thing is getting a little ridiculous. Condit earned his shot at GSP/W.W. Title and he should get it, next, not another fight with Diaz.



So, if they rematch and Diaz wins by UD, then what? Diaz gets to fight GSP? How is that fair? Do they have a rubber match? The whole thing is ridiculous. There is too much of it now. Decisions are a part of the sport. If Diaz wanted it bad enough, he would have found a way to win. Now he needs to get back in line.

GSP will lay on carlos for 25 minutes. Id rather see Nick smash carlos in the rematch

REMATCH!!

There should be a rematch I don't like it when there is a controversial decision especially in a title fight. They should rematch ASAP and one has to win by a finish.

and if no one finishes they just keep rematching?

The only controversial thing about the decision is how many idiots don't accept it. Some fans couldn't muster an IQ of 1 between them.



Condit won fair and square with a superb performance that Diaz hadn't a clue to counter and was made to look a league below Condit, which he is.

youre the idiot, when mma commentators and other pros are disagreeing with the judges, then the judges are probably wrong, they are not infallible

so you sir are the idiot

superb performance like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i65O5nO6dv8

What's Condit gonna do - wait 12 months until GSP is ready...? He will have to fight again at least once this year, possibly twice. If Diaz beats another contender then he probably deserves a rematch, probably not an immediate one, he should have found a way to win and change strategies mid-fight, no point crying about spilt milk.

I love how anyone who disagrees with anyone here is a retard, nuthuhger, fanboy...etc. The site used to be alright.



Fact is even in the MMA professional world people disagree. Jake Ellinberger, Pat Miletich, many trainers and pros have come out for Diaz. It's controversial and nondecisive. Not just gambits and retards saying so. Why don't you all try to use your words and describe what you think went down rather than personally attack people for what they believe.

^^^ READ THIS PEOPLE! Thank you movescamp.

Oh like thats gonna work lol

I am pissed too, lately the site became home of many badbehaved, uneducated people, not able to have a normal exchange of opinions.

The Diaz haters are starting all kinds of crap lol

they are the ones doing all the name calling thats for sure, and starting all the personal attacks, im sure they are the same people who were the die hard lesnar fans as well who always thought the ufc was the end all be all of mma

this site like most sites, is filled with a bunch of average intelligence people and the average person overestimates their own intellect and its funny to see it really is

We know that Diaz is the real champion - AT WHINING.

Everything is always everybody's else's fault with him.

Diaz is actually only the interim champion...he is waiting for Penn to come back to decide who is the clear Whining Champion.

You can call carlos champ if you want to

Imagine that. Condit wants to fight for the real 170 title instead of beating a fighter he just beat.

Dammit..."instead of a rematch with a fighter he just beat".

so be on the shelf all year, Carlos

Not the opinion of REAL fighters

It should be a crime what Greg Jackson does to exciting fighters. So sad...

they should ban greg jackson from mma, it is a bussiness afterall and selling fights like that is bad bussiness

Dan Henderson

Joe Lauzon

Jens Pulver

Pat Miletich

Jake Ellinberger

Josh Neer

Tito Ortiz



Some of the people that say the judges made the wrong call.



My point is it's opinion. There was not a decisive victory. It should have been a draw and yes an immediate rematch. For May. Aug the rubber match. December GSP. Everyone wins and makes money.

I am sure you could a list of people that are split on both sides for any close fight that goes to decision. Lyoto Rampage is just one example.



It's a slippery slope when a decision can be overrun by fans and colleges. It will inevitably come down to a popularity contest.

My point was it's not retards and nuthuhugers who disagree with the judges. The slippery slope was when the gambling comission got involved not when fighters, trainers, and fans have input in how the sport develops. I would much rather have people like Dan Henderson and Randy Coture guide the sport along than a political organization tied to bookies.



The problem to me is draws are not used nearly enough. They would provide incentive to win convincingly or provide grounds for a rematch. Condit IMO had a terrific gameplan but unlike someone like machida(who fights defensively) he never looked for an opening to pounce on his opponent. It was all points I never once (after watching 3 times) saw condit pounce on Diaz when he saw an opening.



He did well but only because of the hype around Diaz. Diaz underperformed for all his hype. But when you take emotion out and look atthe facts the only thing condit "outstruck" Diaz in was legkicks and never put Diaz in danger. Diaz did put condit in danger with a takedown and backmount.

so youre calling mma fighters dumb, they know more then you and lots of them think condit didnt win the fight.

EXACTLY.

i cant believe the amount of hate condit is getting. the guy destroyed pretty much every on he fought in viscios fashion, and gets one close descision against a top level fighter and now hes a boring fighter? personally i had no problem with the fight, was a good technical battle. condit definetly desrved the win way more than diaz. when i watched it a second time i realized how little punches diaz was acually landing, and he was definetly starting to get frustrated in the second half. imo the judges actually made a good call.

Condit will beat Diaz again if they fight.

Your full of crap. Diaz will finish him in style next time.

if by beat you mean run the entire time, i can honestly see that happening

the 170 division is becoming boring as shit recently, condit vs gsp is nothing worth holdin out for...Even though diaz is a knob, thats the fight people want to see, forget this bullshit interim belt....



.id rather see a real fight like chris leben vs wanderlei 2 bang it out...or a light heavyweight match between anderson silva vs jon jones, anderson can easily go up in weight class he has done it before againts forrest and others...

Condit vs Safe pierre, no way im gonna buy that ppv!

condit the natural born coward

Im not buying it either. phuckem

I see no justification for a rematch. Condit fought a smart fight. Diaz failed to adapt his game plan. You can't award a rematch on the grounds that if Condit had fought Diaz's fight then Diaz would have a better chance of winning. If you penalise fighters for implementing a smart game plan then mma loses credibility as a sport. Diaz has no right to complain that Condit beet him with a hit and move strategy (some of the best boxers have carved a career out of that style).Diaz acts as if this is a case of you have to beet the champ to be the champ. Well he isn't champ anymore and Diaz had just as much to prove as Condit. Diaz failed to take the fight to Condit and lost respectably to a fellow top UFC contender. Welcome back to the big leagues

condit didnt fight he defended and ran away

ever heard of a DRAW?

more actual mma fighters would agree with me over you as well

I agree that it wasn't an aggressive approach on Condit's part, but at the end of the day he managed to evade Diaz, land more strikes and take less damage. As much as I probably would have preferred Diaz to win, he made no adjustments and deserved to lose on that basis. Honestly now, if the decision had gone the other way would you still be calling for a rematch?



Biggermmafan, your second response is ridiculous and is the reason why I usually don't bother commenting on these articles. It's not a competition mate.

If I were a mma fan I would beg for rematch, becouse i want to know who is the best in the sport, and that fight didn't prove anything who is better is it Diaz or is it Condit

if they rematch i think diaz will win by rnc or triangle.. condit is to good on the feet n i think diaz will take it to the ground in the 2nd fight silly if he dont imo.. dont care who wins just hope it dont go to a dec so every1 stops crying..

if a cage wasnt there that fight would have ended half a mile from where it started, where i come from we dont call that a fight we call that a guy chasing somebody who doesnt want to fight

Im just fine with Carlos fighting GSP, after GSP beats him he can step back and let this saga play out, that is if Nick is still interested in chasing people.

Don't Be Scared Homie !!!!!!!!!!

Everybody was looking forward to the Diaz v Condit fight because both guys were known for going all out for the finish in their fights, at least, that used to be the case untill the fight happened. Tactical as it may have been Condits performance was still a major dissappointment and no matter which way you cut it, Condit ran away for most of the fight, and i still don't understand how that can be woth more points than constantly moving forward. Anyway, i knew Condit wouldn't want to face Diaz again, he barely won the first fight and that is highly disputable. I hope Diaz doesn't retire though man, that will be a BIG loss to MMA as a whole. Give Condit to GSP then so we can all see him get smashed, he doesn't stand a chance against GSP imo. I've liked Condit for a long time too but he completely lost my respect the way he fought in that fight, it wasn't his his natural style to run like that either. Where was "The Natural Born Killer" that night i'd love to know. GSP will pin him down and smash him for 3 rounds and win by TKO. Just because Condit defended Diaz' takedowns doesn't mean he will be able to defend GSP's, no chance.....

couldn't agree more

I want my money back, condit and koschek you guys suck balls. And

This is getting sad and ridiculous!!!!!



You guys can't blame Condit for NOT fighting Nicks fight!!!!!

Well, obviously you can but you shouldn't...



Nick Diaz is a hell of a tough guy, with and amazing endurance.

But he is more of a brawler style, with an inhuman punch rate.

A volume puncher as people say...



Why should Condit play his game, and basically give away the fight.

Because, int that kind of fight Diaz is probably the best in the world.

I would have liked to see him against Chris Leben though...



Would you pull guard against Damian Maia, or Werdum or Noguiera??!!

Only an IDIOT would do that!!!



And don't talk about Condit SAID that this would be a dogfight!!!!

Why should Condit give away his gameplan to Diaz and his crew??!!!

Like its the first time somebody says that they are going to do one thing and then does something else, WOW what dishonesty!!!! How dare they do something like that?!! Its called gameplan, misdirection and mindgames, folks!!!

For me at least, it has been obvious for a while on how to beat Nick.

i thought Daley would adopt to this plan, being a even more powerful striker than Condit...



You don't let yourself get backed up against the cage in front of either Nick or Nate Diaz. They will eat you up if you stand there and take their shots. Imagine if they had real one shot ko power...



Now Diaz says that he is the most wellrounded fighter in the world, doesn't he??!! Then why didn't he CUT OF escape of Condit then?!!

For being the best in the world, he seems to incapable of changing HIS gameplan when its obvious that it isn't working...



Thats like basic boxing one on one, cut of the ring. Now of course its more difficult to cut someone off in a octagon than in a ring, thats true.



So when got him up against the cage he should either have CLINCHED to get to stay there OR "maintained his distance" a little better, so that he would have it easier to cut Condit off when he tried to spin out to the center of the octagon... Did he do it, NO!!!!

Now you blame Condit...



Its Diaz responsibility to make it a winnable fight for him, and that includes changing of gameplans as well... Cut him off OR maybe go train with some good wrestlers so you actually learn how to take somebody down with some consistency...

Don't be suprised that someone don't fall for namecalling and slaps.

I'm suprised that someone hasn't done this before, but believe me it wil happen more often now...



Some of you guys seem to be in denial of the fact that he REALLY DID LOSE, and that he isn't really that technichal of a standup fighter that you would like to believe. He got OUTSMARTED, OUTSTRUCK and took WAY more damage than Condit did. Just like Ali did, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roy Jones, Pernell Whitaker fights... Its sticking and moving, hit and NOT get hit. Controlling where the fight takes place, and in this case, in the center of the octagon. When you get your back up agains the wall, then you reset in the center of octagon again. He did it at least 50 times, and DIaz did NOTHIN to stop him. Thats the MOST BASIC RULE IN FIGHTING, and if you can't adapt to it, then you will lose and you deserve to lose as well. Its that simple...



Like Geoff_Biscuits wrote a little bit higher: Honestly, if Diaz had won the fight had you been saying rematch then??!!!!!



No, didn't think so....

youre ridiculous i blame condit for not fighting

No actually, i make a lot of sense...



If 2 guys standing in front of each other banging is what u like, and when somebody don't fight like YOU want them to fight then you say that they were running away.

Because YOUR criteria of what constitutes a good fight isn't really all that important, and neither is mine. But i don't comment everywhere and complain when i fight or a decision doen't go my way.

You remind me a little bit of Cecar Gracie and the Diaz bros, its always somebodys else's fault.

That Diaz needs to learn how change his gameplan(and get better takedowns) doesn't even strike you as a legit argument, that just shows how little appreciation you have for MMA and what a waste of time it is to even try to REASON with you.

If you can't admit to that simple basic fact.

And that your fighter NEVER seems fights a bad fight, he doesn't need to improve anything and he never makes mistakes as well....



What u basically are saying is that every opponent that Diaz has, has to fight Diaz the way that Diaz and YOU want them too. If they don't, then they are p*****s and wimps.... I don't think so!!!!



If he doesn't step up his game then he will lose, because both Fitch and Kos will own. I think Kampmann and Alves cant take him if they use the same gameplan. Maybe Ellenberger as well.



So basically, Diaz has to evolve as a fighter or he will fade be gone from the UFC pretty soon.

When Dominick Cruz did the exact same thing to Uriah Faber, it was a masterful performance, but not so for Carlos? What a load of BS! The rules on that night were the same for both fighters and Condit executed better.



Nick had 25 minutes to make adjustments and figure him out, but did not or COULD NOT. Nick may be the tougher guy and with more gas in the tank but he was not the smarter fighter that night. Carlos earned GSP.

i didnt see that fight but if did i would have been upset about that too

War is the art of misdirection: Diaz is tough but he lacks mental flexibility

, that said fans really like his single minded aggressiveness combined with his high volume attack because they themselves cannot see the obvious weakness of it, no ability to improvise. If you use the same strategy over and over eventually people figure you out (just ask BJ) its not about your last fight its about your next fight how will you surprise you opponent? Diaz is at the highest level for sure but he is missing a very important skill piece (wrestling aside)- imagination!

Diaz loss get over it, Condit won and thats it don't keep at one thing. Lets go to a new page.



It was a good fight and rond 1 en 2 was close butt even if your a Diaz fan, you can see Diaz loss.



So pleas get over it.



Next

no rematch needed sir,Nick the **** got beat,that's it,deal with it Cesar!!

It is not worth commenting on this site anymore.

Yes, it is!!!!

But its not worth it to get into an neverending arguments with people who don't want to listen...

You saved me once from going on with a neverending troll.

Thanks for that by the way:)

even if he doesn't fight diaz, he should fight some body. barring injury, i think each champion should defend their title at least 2 times. he's the so call champ and he should defend. and nobody deserves a shot more than nick diaz. as far as gsp, we're not even sure when or if he'll be fighting again. knee injuries take a long time to heal, and then he has to get it into shape for fighting. he can also re injure it and then we have a title in limbo for who knows how long. he should be forced to defend his title within 6 months.