Cain Velasquez out for 6 to 8 months with a Shoulder Injury; Junior dos Santos doesn't want to wait

Posted on December 30, 2010, 03:41 AM by Anton Gurevich
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According to reports on ESPN.com and MMAFighting.com, newly crowned UFC Heavyweight Champion Cain Velasquez is out for six to eight months after suffering from a torn rotator cuff in his shoulder. Fresh off an impressive victory over Brock Lesnar at UFC 121, Velasquez was expected to square off against the #1 contender Junior Dos Santos, possibly headlining UFC's debut in Toronto next April.

Here's what ESPN's Josh Gross writes:

News of the injury to Velasquez surfaced Wednesday when MMAFighting.com reported the 28-year-old heavyweight would require surgery for an undisclosed shoulder ailment, causing him to miss six to eight months.

A recent MRI on his right shoulder revealed the injury was "a lot more severe" than previously thought and showed a 90 percent tear of the rotator cuff. The morning following his first-round win over Lesnar, Velasquez complained about pain in his shoulder.

Making a rough prediction, Cain Velasquez could fight Junior Dos Santos not before the third quarter of 2011. "Cigano" will be forced to for a year-long layoff since his Unanimous Decision victory over Roy Nelson at UFC 117. Ultimate Fighting Championship experienced the same situation with Shogun Rua's bout against Rashad Evans, which was postponed for approximately a year due to Rua's knee injury.

Stay tuned for more news on the issue.

Photo: HeavyMMA

Update:

MMA Weekly have the following reaction from Junior dos Santos's manager, Ed Soares:

MMAWeekly.com was able to speak with Dos Santos’ manager, Ed Soares, on Wednesday as well. According to him, the top contender in the heavyweight division will not be waiting for Velasquez to return before fighting again.

“He is not going to wait six months,” Soares said in a text message to MMAWeekly.com.

Update #2:


Here's even more heat from Junior dos Santos (via
Fighters Only):

"I'm really outraged. How does a person leaves a fight versus Brock Lesnar in perfect physical condition and then get hurt without being in training? The last news I heard about Velasquez, he was riding in Mexico. How did he get injured? I'm in the best moment of my career, training heavily and working hard to put on the fight of my life, and all of a sudden, this is postponed for eight months. That's unfair. I'm five months without fighting, fighting is my life, not just because I love doing it, but also because I need to fight for a living. I don't make as much money as the top fighters, so I really need to work. Of course it would be fantastic to face Velasquez at 'UFC Rio' in August, but I can't keep myself one year away from the Octagon only waiting for his recovering... so I do think what would be most fair, would be Dana gives me the opportunity to fight for an interim belt."



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  • theashark
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    ****!

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  • pound4pound
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    JDS vs MIr makes more sense right now than anything... I bet Dana would´ve like to have Overem or Fedor in the UFC right now even Barnett would have been a good match up against JDS, anyways this sucks balls right now..

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  • Nik_Hulstein
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    *facepalm*

    If Lesnar doesn't goto wrestle mania that could be cigano's next fight

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  • Nik_Hulstein
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    But realisticly he will fight Carwin for the heavyweight title, why did i say lesnar? my bad

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  • japanegro23
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    Maybe that's why Mir wasn't fighting Schaub anymore.

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  • Jamie Kennedy
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    I agree. I even said before Cain and JDS was set, that JDS vs Mir made more sense . . . guess we'll have to wait and see though

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  • Joey Santosus
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    Mir hasn't been fairing to well against heavy hitters lately tho...

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  • MMAW
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    well it's the huge wrestlers he's had trouble with these days.

    JDS and Mir would make for an interesting fight (as long as Mir doesnt try and test out his "wrestling" again like h did against Cro Cop).

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  • azzkika
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    Let JDS fight Carwin instead for an interim title

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  • overhand right
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    i'd love to see that fight but carwin needs to win at least one more before he's back in the title mix and dos santos is undefeated in the UFC

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  • mmaer
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    yeah, an interim title would be the right thing

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  • MMALurker
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    the UFC doesnt do Interims because of injury. Take Shogun for example.



    were just gonna be waiting.

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  • 51JD51
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    I think that is the fight that make sense but not for an interim title because Carwin is coming off the loss.

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  • TheRealDeal
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    Carwin? He does not deserve a shot.

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  • MMALurker
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    as a shoulder injury victum myself I can say its very hard to recover 100% from. This could be a career ender

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  • Sisam646
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    The UFC does do interims for the injured/sick, (Carwin vs. Mir when Brock was ill).



    In Shogun's case Rashad didn't want to fight for the interim belt and wanted to wait for the champ (probably because he was afraid of losing his title shot if he had to fight again ex. agains Machida) so that is not a comparable example.



    If JDS will not wait for Cain, his next fight will most likely be for the interim belt.

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  • Joey Santosus
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    Well actually, in Brock's case there was a real chance he may never return, or even potentially pass away due to his illness. Therefore it was logical to proceed with an interim title so that if the current champ hadnt recovered and returned, they would already have a new champ in place.

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  • Sisam646
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    Uh no....



    From the beginning Brock's camp always set the precedent that he would return. Even though he was facing a life threatening illness (and possibly career ending) it was never the intention to hold an interim match because Brock was done with the UFC. At the time Carwin's camp stated that while they would like to wait for Brocks return it was too long of a wait.



    In addition, from a business standpoint, Brock is (was) a large draw so it would be quite stupid to create the impression that he would never return (even if this was the indeed the case). The UFC would not do anything to hint at that possibility unless it was 100% certain that Brock was done.



    And if indeed Brock wasn't going to come back they would have fought for the actual belt not the interim belt.

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  • Joey Santosus
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    Exactly, and to be honest I dont know what people's obsession or fixation on Interim Titles is about anyway. Yes, it is disappointing that the champ is out, just like it is/was disappointing that Rua is out, but in the mean time as long as we are seeing good fights in those divisions, there is no need for a substitute title. Really, unless there is a chance the champ will never return, all they really mean is number one contender when they return. Which we dont need a belt to remember... So in the Light Heavyweight division there is plenty of depth and competitive match-ups to hold us over, now lets see what they can manage to put together at 265.

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  • 51JD51
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    Let's not get too pessimistic, torn rotator cuffs are a pretty common sports injury (see baseball) and it isn't considered a career ending injury.

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  • MMAW
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    I've torn my rotator cuff in my right shoulder before.

    It took around 2 months to recover and heal, i could do next to no training with the injury. After it took around a month to get back to were i left off in training.

    Depending on how severe this tear is, it makes sense for Cain to be out this long, you have to consider what i mentioned above but also in Cain's case he has to go through a training camp for his upcoming title defence on top of that (additional 6-8 weeks).

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  • theashark
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    no ones throwing a ball, here. its people grappling and punching with these injuries

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  • moots
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    Bah that really sucks, that was the fight I was looking forward to the most out of any possible matchup.

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    @ moots



    Yes - that does suck. It also leaves the HW division in dilemma. I've said this before and I'll restate here, The UFC needs a policy regarding title holders.



    If The Champ is going to be sidelined for more than "X" months, then there should be some redress of the issue; particularly if the layoff is the result of an injury, one that might have a high or reasonable probability of re-injury or re-occurrence. The real dilemma here, is that we wait around for The Champ to recover and then somewhere deep into that process he re-injures himself and gets laid up another half year or so.



    The real problem here, is that there is no guarantee that The Champ will be back by the proscribed date; we need a policy for just such instances.



    Hope you had a great Christmas; all the best in the New Year.



    Cheers,



    Wing Chun

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  • falcon4917
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    Agree, I think even more stupid though is when Dana had GSP do TUF while champ and had him out of the ring for a year while Everyone else waits for a shot. Interim titles would be a good idea but I am not worried about 6 months for an injury. I just hate seeing champs taken off the menu for stupid reasons like TUF. I would say interim belt after 8 or 9 months max.

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  • moots
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    Yes, I don't see a way to prevent problems like this, so the best solution is probably to assign a particular 'waiting period' in which an interim belt could be fought for. In case of a significant extension of the waiting period by the champ, it may be necessary to strip them of their title - the UFC needs active champions. It sucks but it may be the best way to deal with these issues.



    Have a great New Year as well, WingChun.

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  • japanegro23
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    It sucks because it will happen ALL THE TIME!

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  • overhand right
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    NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :((((((((

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  • HEmm0
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    Why Carwin should fight for interim title? He just lost to Lesnar, who got destroyed by Cain. Interim titlebout should be between former champ and number 1 contender. That makes most sense.

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  • DR3W
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    because he was doing the same thing Cain was but he didn't conserve his shots and wasted his energy. Shane barley connected and was hitting his arms for half the round.

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  • HugeCleavage
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    This sucks Monkey Balls!

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  • Krogan
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    Wow this really hurts UFC HW division for the near future, so who will be sacrificed to Dos Santos amongst the other chumps of the UFC HW division?

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  • tassie_MMA
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    i'd love to see JDS vs Carwin would be a sick fight!

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  • freakintony
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    its like the champs take turns getting hurt.......

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  • Joey Santosus
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    There will be no interim title, thats not how it works... But yea, I would love to see that fight in the mean time.

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  • Conan
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    Who is going to fight JDS for the interim title? Is the UFC HW division that deep as everybody talks? This the moment of truth.

    Carwin - just lost to Lesnar

    Lesnar - just lost his title

    Big Nog - JDS not going to fight him

    Nelson - just lost to JDS

    Mir - always a number one interim title contender



    Do you really think that Fedor and Overeem need to sign with the UFC? Is this the top competition? I don't think so.

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  • MMALurker
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    The UFC isnt into doing interims because of fighter injury as theyve shown with Shogun Rua

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  • IChokePeople
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    You beat me to it. The fact that it is so difficult to come up with a reasonable interim title fight shows just how shallow the UFC HW division is. I would add though that Nelson is also in limbo as to where he is contracted and Big Nog is out of the title mix for at least 2 fights. Mir makes the most sense but really there isn't a single fight that would be legitimate. This is the curse of every HW division in every combat sport. There just aren't that many skilled big guys. I will say though that this also shows how stacked SF's HW division is despite a smaller roster. If Overeem was injured Werdum could fight Big Foot, Barnett or even Kharitonov for an interim title.

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  • postmortem
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    yes thats true but it only makes sense because most of the strikeforce hw are new hires from other organizations and have yet to fight each other. plus SF has only put on four HW fights in the past year so the competition seems alot fresher

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  • IChokePeople
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    True but they are also quality guys. The only one I mentioned that might be questionable as far as ranking is Kharitonov but he would put on a good fight. Big Foot and Barnett are easily top ten. You could add Fedor to that too as long as he beat Big Foot or Barnett first.

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  • Joey Santosus
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    Lol, yea stacked with fighters who wont fight...

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  • Conan
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    Who is going to fight JDS for the interim title? Is the UFC HW division that deep as everybody talks? This the moment of truth.

    Carwin - just lost to Lesnar

    Lesnar - just lost his title

    Big Nog - JDS not going to fight him

    Nelson - just lost to JDS

    Mir - always a number one interim title contender



    Do you really think that Fedor and Overeem need to sign with the UFC? Is this the top competition? I don't think so.

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  • cHodAX
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    UFC have real problems here, the HW title needs to be defended more than once a year and what we are now looking at is at least 12 months without that title being available. The same thing happened with Lesnar and his long layoff as well, it stagnates the title scene and makes the belt look kind of worthless especially if you start having interim titles.



    If Strikeforces operation wasn't such a farce then they could claim to have the real heavyweight champion but their HW belt is becoming a bit of a joke now as well because it is rarely contested.

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  • IChokePeople
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    I think (over optimisticly?) that will change in 2011. Overeem claims to want to defend his title more. Also, there is a very real chance that Werdum will submit him if that fight goes to the ground. I think Werdum would definitely want to fight more often. The only thing that worries me is that it is very likely that Fedor will take the title this year and he probably won't defend it very often. I love Fedor and I still think he is the greatest MMA fighter of all time but he doesn't fight nearly enough for my taste. At any rate, management has nothing to do with the roster and I cant think of too many UFC HWs that could give Overeem, Barnett, Fedor, Big Foot or Even Werdum a good fight. The only UFC HWs that I could see on even ground are Velásquez, JDS, Carwin and maybe Mir and Big Nog. Big Nog V Big Foot or Werdum would be pretty even. Cain could probably hold his own or win against any of them but that works both ways. That's just my opinion though.

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  • japanegro23
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    No kidding. It's not really a joke haha but I agree with your point.

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  • MAMBA24ILL
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    Sucks that this happened. Hope Cain comes back 100%.



    Mir seems like the best opponent available for JDS.

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    ....

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  • THEGREEKWARRIOR7
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    lol

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  • THEGREEKWARRIOR7
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    so looks like Velasquez may have won the battle, but Lesnar won the war!

    ...just kiidding! don't stampede me u crazy mexicans

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  • IChokePeople
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    You mean like that hammer I dropped on my foot beat me up?LOL

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  • Cookie77
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    Seems like there will be no Light Heavyweight and heavyweight title fight for at lease the first half of next year.. What will JDS do? if he fights Mir and lose would that make Mir number 1 contender? I think if the UFC does not like the interim belt then they should "take" the belt away from the injured champion IF his injury will be longer than 6 months and when he is ready to fight again then he should get a title shot. Injuries like suffered by Rua and Velasquez will take time to heal so it's not fair for the number one contender to wait for the champion and fight a non title match where he could possibly lose or get injured himself. If the number one contender gets injured he will be surpassed by the next in line, I think that's hardly fair.

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    I agree. As soon as the fighter is healthy again, he gets the first crack at it.

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    ####!!!

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  • UrHype
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    Its becoming quite the norm now days when a UFC fighter wins a championship to take a year off damn......

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  • TwA
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    why would carwin fight for an interim it should be lesnar vs jds or jds should just wait or fight somenone else besides with the addition of the new weight divisions it won't seem so long of wait for the fans there is gonna be alot of good fights in 2011

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    Lesnar won't be ready and may not return. I know it seems a bit premature but maybe Stephan Struve will need to grow up fast and take this on.

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    Lesner in no way deserves to be in the title mix yet. A beat down like that sends you right to the back of the line just like GSP when Serra destroyed him. As for Struve; that is A LOT of quick growing.

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  • falcon4917
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    Agreed but if your in the UFC you have to face the best wether your ready or not. This is not the growing and learning league.

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  • IChokePeople
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    Yeah, but I just don't see Struve as worthy yet. I guess he is at the top of the unworthy heap but... It just sucks that this has happened.

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  • falcon4917
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    yeah.

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  • jon123nepalikid
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    why are UFC champs always getting injured after a fight...not hating just being observant

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    It is becoming a real issue, too many belts are going undefended for too long and all the while these guys are sat as champs they are earning more in sponsorship money. One fight a year is not good enough, two a year is bloody thin but at least a fighter stays fresh in the mind somewhat. Really I think title should come with a stipulation of defend it twice in 12 months or lose it.

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    They should fight so we can see how good Dos Santos' ground game is

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  • Rafaelroberto840
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    Plus it would be revenge for Mir beating Nogueira

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    Mir won't get JDS to the ground.

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  • IChokePeople
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    If this fight happens Mir should just roll for a heal hook and hope for the best. He has the stand up and power to KO JDS but I think his chin would get clipped before he could connect.

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  • japanegro23
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    Heck nah hahaha. 240 looking like Aoki haha!

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    dame i crying now lol jk but this sucks

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    If JDS wants to fight as opposed to wait until 20f'n12 (seems to be the trend starting waay back with Serra, Shogun... win the belt and get injured for f'n ever) anyway... I say give him lower threat fight than Carwin. I think Mir or Kongo would be good. I just don't want to see the Cain vs JDS fight lose it's thrill and if Carwin landed a right hand on JDS jaw that would happen.

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    POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR POOR :(

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    good for dos santos deciding not to wait, i respect a fighter that just wants to fight no matter who it's against. i drool at the very though of a matchup between him and carwin. O.O

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  • japanegro23
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    COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!!! We will see if he actually takes a fight or not but if he does..... Rashad take notes hahaha! Fight. Make money. If JDS is the number one contender, he will beat anyone they put him up against! THANK YOU!

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  • 702BOXX
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    man, why cant someone who doesnt matter get injured..

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  • codemaster
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    Actually, someone did get injured, but...it didn't matter, so you forgot.

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  • scrappymcgee
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    LOL YES. We get to see Mir's stupid KO'd face again. Lesnar really is too busy sulking to want JDS even though it would put him back into contention.

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  • MMA ADDICT
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    I'm piss off now

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  • TheRealDeal
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    Easy solution, interim belt. Fighters get hurt, it sucks but it is the reality of the fight game.



    The only question is- JDS versus who?

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    Man i wanted to see jds get KO i guess ill just have to wait now..but seriously the fight would of been Cain taking him down and battering him with punches...And still the heavy weight champion of the world!!!

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  • TwA
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    i think jds should fight a good wrestler to more prepare him for velasquez but no matter what i think cain is gonna be the champ for a long long time

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  • codemaster
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    I know, I know--interim belts suck--but so does waiting around for a year for champs to heal.



    I believe an interim belt adds value to top contender fights when the champ is laid-up, and puts pressure on the champ to get back in the game ASAP. Remember, as long as you are the champ, you can expect some good promotional money--so any delay in the next title defense is not as serious as it is for promotion poor contenders. An Interim Belt puts pressure on the champ, and creates significance to fights for the contenders and the fans.



    This is not a one-time issue that will go away when Cain heals. Injuries are a part of life for fighters, so this will happen again. IMO it makes sense to have a standard, predictable formula for these situations.

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  • codemaster
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    BTW: The implication I got from JDS's statement was that Cain hurt himself while horseback riding in Mexico.

    Reply 4 years ago
  • David.K
    Cool
    Weak
    Sharp
    Funny

    Everybody is thinking the same thing but, F**K.

    Reply 4 years ago