B.J. Penn discusses retirement, says Nick Diaz must "break" GSP to win

Nice way to state the fight perameters. If Georges wants to decision the fight it will likely go that way but if Georges wants to finish it with a bit more risk he may find himself out fought technically on the ground or will lose composure in a striking match.

Completely agree with you falcon. GSP fights such a safe, low risk style it's almost mechanical and it's paid off really well for him thus far. But you can only controll fights for so long, it's a fight and anything can happen. I believe GSP could get thrown off by diaz unorthodox boxing and or antics in the ring. I think this fight will be closer than most people think, I'm taking Diaz for the upset via superior jitz and boxing.

And wow BJ's face is nearly healed, he was a mess after that war. I hope I get to see my favorite fighter in shape and in the ring again sometime.

BJ is great at what he does and knowing GSP is something he knows

thats why Daiz and them reached out after the fight to teamup to

get that info and the training BJ can do and tricks of the trade is priceless

look BJ got beat but he puts on wieght to fight that weight class and

lets get real he isnt getting younger and to throw down like he does

thats why he is a ledgend Plus is "THE MAN" there on the island

does so much to help ppl and help get local fights going just a stand

up guy...and him and Nick teaming up would be dangerous..now for the

GSP vs DAIZ ....,Daiz has that Foreman punch were he throws a left

jab with that right following right behind it like two punches thrown at

once and if that catches you it will stunn u and jab hook and could be

sleepn for a sec....but GSP has great wrestling really good jab that

damn near has broke everyones orbital ever since Freddie and Manny

taught him look GSP will finish you if it is there but he isnt fight new

comers or guy that has been on a streak and is on his way up ....they

are up they one of the best in that moment and you cant be taking

crazy chance....you get caught slippn at this level and OVER..watch

Daiz will let his hands lose here and there but he wont do anything

that might cause him to take damage hell just watchn film on Jake/

GSP.... if both are still going at it at the end of the 3rd ,... 4th-5th he will be jabbing his ass offf what ever he can do to make it look like he is controlling the rd and will take the fininsh if its there but isnt going to take any chances....watch at this level you can give him shit but he is defending champ for a reason

I think you read that wrong , what BJ was really saying is Nick Diaz has no frickin chance in hell at beating GSP

GSP lovers..."sharp."



Anyone that actually thinks about this fight and puts all the pieces together, "weak."



GSP is not going to smash Diaz. If anything GSP will get the decision. We all know how much the judges love Diaz.

Yea...it looks like BJ is trying pretty hard to find a way of saying that George is going to beat his friend Diaz.

Nick Diaz > GSP

Diaz will beat Georges Safe-Pierre

Share your opinion, tell me how he'll do so.

I think I might take GSP by decision but there is a VERY good chance that Diaz can submit him and standing Diaz definitely presents problems for GSP and may even out class him. I regretfully admit GSP will likely eek out a decision but Diaz is a real threat to him and probably his hardest fight to date.

This thing about Diaz submitting GSP makes me laugh. Jake Shields was supposed to do so. Koscheck was supposed to outwrestle him. Hardy was supposed to knock him out. Alves, the best Muay Thai fighter in the welterweight division was supposed to knock him out. Bj penn, the prodigy, was supposed to submit him in dominant fashion. Jon fitch was supposed to outwrestle him. Matt serra was supposed to get beat only on the ground. Hughes was supposed to be able to outwrestle him. Koscheck was supposed to outwrestle him.



Since he lost the title gsp has fought everybody the ufc put in front of him and he beat everybody at their own game except a couple of guys which he beat anyway.



You think he might win against gsp by a decision? You are crazy! If gsp gets out of a round, he'll take you down next round and he'll put a beating on you. Gsp can't only lose by submission or ko. Submission? Well you know that's not impossible but having a strong athlete and very skilled wrestler in side control you can't really submit him especially if he's hitting you. ko? Well maybe but I don't think Diaz will be able to keep moving forward. Gsp's jabs are so much improved it's incredible.



Oh, I forgot to ask you. How will Diaz will beat gsp?

I don't think Gsp would have an idea what to do with that suicide sweep nick pulled when bj got the double. Bj knew because he is a jiujitsu phenom. George prob would not. I think Diaz has a lot of tricks no one has seen yet for reversing takedowns. Especially the double. He is practicing hard at Sambo which really should help his takedowns defense tremendously. If the judges score reversals he can win. If they are blind to technique other than folk wrestling he is screwed.

I meant when bj got the single.

"think Diaz has a lot of tricks no one has seen yet for reversing takedowns"



Bro there are no secret tricks in BJJ, a lot of technique yes but Georges has been practicing bjj for about 17 years and he trained with world jiujitsu champs I don't think Nick will be able to reverse Georges takedowns with a secret move.

There are tons of "secret tricks" in grappling. Every gym teaches things a little differently.

Secret tricks maybe but no secret techniques. And reversing a takedown is not only a little trick buddy.

Yeah the same GSP that makes white belt mistakes (ala Dan HArdy). Anybody who knows hot to grapple knows there are always secret moves. Most teachers never even show them until you are on their level (the most secret moves anyway). We will have to wait and watch but I bet you you see GSP baffled several times. Nick trains sambo which has a lot of great takedowns and reversals.

...uh, yeah because GSP's blackbelt from a Gracie hinders his ability to do so.

yeak like his Dan Hardy rookie mistake,

And I'm pretty sure Roger Gracie would would Cesar in a pure BJJ match. So GSP is getting all the vital knowledge he needs. The dude is like a sponge. Show him one move, the next day he comes back and does it to you!

Nick is a far better MMA athlete than Roger can even dream of. He has the best MMA jiujitsu in the welterweight division. I dont think so GSP is not a grapple expert.

It's gonna be a good fight if GSP really comes in planning on going to war with Diaz.. I think that BJ was right about Diaz having to break GSP. He can be made to quit, like the night that Matt "The Terror" put that beat-down on him. I think that Diaz is capable of breaking GSP. With that being said; GSP-when truly motivated, is the most dangerous fighter in the business. Just ask Hughes, Serra, and Penn; seeing as he completly destroyed them all in his rematches with them. I see him and Diaz fighting at least twice in their careers with each having a win over the other when it is all said and done.

There's a big difference in quitting and stopping unnecessary head trauma. You are retarded, clearly. GSP is an intelligent guy and understands the effects of being punched in the head repeatedly and what it does to you over time.



Look at Nick, the dude uses his face as a game plan and as a result he loses a chunk of brain cells. In about 10 years, Nick will be lost like Phil Baroni, while GSP opens MMA GYMs around the world because he has some brain left.

You can injure yourself in many ways in this sport to finish your career but some guys go in there to fight as a fight should be with all you have and are in the sport because they are less afraid of damage than regular people. This is a fight business and I don't want to see a gameplan decisioning sport over a real finish. If GSP was like Frankie or most of the other fighters he wouldn't quit just because damage is coming his way, he would fight like a fighter would. Thats what makes them true fighters.

I give credit where credit is due; and to his credit-GSP can be made to quit. He was trying like hell to tap for a good three seconds before the ref stopped it; but he couldn't find the floor with Serra blasting him like that!! What GSP lacks in heart, he more than makes up for with athletisism. We will see who is lost in ten years chump.

I agree with BJ, Diaz is strong mentally, enough to break Georges. But if GSP is able to bring it to the ground, well.. Nick's night will be long.

No one has ever come close to breaking GSP. He got tko'd once and submitted once. Two mistakes, probably a total of about 30 seconds of bad judgement in 24 fights, many of them 5 rounds long.



The guy has fought with an eye gouged badly enough that he couldn't see (Shields) and a for two rounds with a badly pulled groin muscle (Alves).



Diaz could beat GSP. Anything can happen in MMA. But break his will? never happen.

Doh! it's late. I meant to say "Anyone can get beat in an MMA fight, but break his will? Never Happen.

Don't forget the mashing of his face in the Penn fight, then turned that sum bitch on its head and pulled the W. Punch GSP in the face enough times and he will find a way to whoop that ass.

His will looked pretty rocked to me in the sheilds fight and in my opinion Sheilds was just starting to get the upper hand at the end. GSP does not have grit like others do. GSP is a smaller version of Brock in terms of balls, he can dish it out but when the favour is returned he tucks tail. Granted he rarely finds himself in danger due to great athleticism but when it does happen he is no Edgar, Fitch, Urijah or Diaz.

no, he got KO'd, don't down play it. that led to a safer style.

does gsp really seem that tough mentally to you? more of an athlete than a fighter most would say. that's the underlying issue here.

LOL absolutely MindK He got dropped like a pair of panties on prom night! With that being said this is what makes this fight great. GSP is all about wrestling but he cant seem to finish unless he is pissed. Alright so he is pissed but if he boxes he is going to sleep. If he wrestles I think Diaz flexibility is going to get him the win. Most of the guys GSP puts on their backs are not use to being on their backs and I think Diaz will be ready for this. They box for 3 min and GSP decides to go to his roots. I got Diaz in R2 with a submission!!

I hate to say (and I don't want it to happen) but it's probably gonna be GSP via Ambien.



Big snoozer- gonna suck.

K. That's the funniest comment today...via Ambien. Lol

ok a fight starts standing so diaz has the advantage ther...ok gsp scores a takedown ok then what? hecant lay and pray with diaz his bjj is too good hell submit him. only way gsp winning is if he takesdown diaz and stands up right away and takes him down again repeat just get the decision ...nothing new for gsp.

I can remember being at the ballpark, watching Nolan Ryan pitch a no-hitter into the 9th inning, and some "fans" leaving the game early because it was "boring". History was being made, but it was dull to them because there was no home runs or scoring.



People who say GSP is boring remind me of those "fans". He didn't finish 4 of his last 5 opponents, so I guess that = boring to some.



But until he got his eye poked in his last fight, GSP hadn't lost a single round of a fight since Serra, and that was over 4 years ago.



So if you find the mastery of the most dominant welterweight fighter in UFC history "boring", go back to watching the WWE. Those "matches" hardly ever go to a decision.

I still watch GSP and enjoy it but I find it frustrating and a little anti-climatic to see a guy have another guy(Koscheck) wobbling like he's going to pass out and still he won't finish the fight. Over and over GSP keeps proving his athleticism and disproving his fighting instincts are there. He is a winner no doubt but if this was a no rounds fighting system I can't see him having as much success since his gameplans would be more or less useless since they all work to win the round and not the fight.

The reason why people say he's boring is because the real "fans" know what he's capable of I remember the young gsp making quik work of opponents and begging for a title shot. He was a beast on the ladder climb. Now that he's on top he cuddles with tthat belt and his opponents. Just like dana got mad at anderson saying "if your that good,finish the fight" and anderson drops dudes left and right with his hands down. Gsp can do a lot more then lay and pray I just wanna see it.

I agree. Gsp was at the beginning a guy who could be the others very quickly. But Georges is above of all that. He is an improved version of a naturally-gifted fighter. The area where Diaz has a big edge is on athleticism, but people forgot what athleticism is. There are many aspects of athleticism. Running, pulling, pushing, cardio, jumping, lifting. You know, you can be a good runner with never-ending cardio but in the end if you can't lift your own weight on a bar well that's all useless. Georges is strong, explosive, have a lot of endurance in his muscle. When you grapple or wrestle cardio is important but I believe strenght is important too.

Usually I like to argue with those who say that muscle is the only important thing and I say that Cardio is good for your body bla bls bla. But I think that muscle is important too.

Diaz is going to finish GSP and become new champ

Dont Be Scared Homie