Assemblyman Bob Reilly: Insurance isn't going to do anything for the brain damage fighters suffer

Posted on May 12, 2011, 02:29 PM by Joey Santosus
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"What immediately came to my mind was, What's the need for insurance? Because advocates for MMA have been touting how safe this sport is and that no one is ever injured, and in fact, the testimony here is that the worst that ever happened was a broken arm. But I don't think that insurance is going to do anything for the very prevalent brain damage that fighters will suffer. I think what MMA should be doing is, instead of providing insurance for injuries, is to do away with injuries. - For more from Bob Reilly on ZUFFA's Insurance, visit MMAFighting.com

ZUFFA's recent announcement of the company's customized accident insurance coverage, which covers all Strikeforce and UFC fighters inside and outside of the cage, appeared to be both welcomed and applauded by all.  That is, with the exception of MMA's most infamous detractor, New York Assemblyman Bob Reilly, who has openly likened the sport to a form of "human cockfighting."

In March, West Virginia became the 45th out of 48 states with athletic commissions in place to sanction the sport of Mixed Martial Arts, leaving only New York, Connecticut and Vermont unsanctioned.  Though the UFC, and MMA community as a whole, has rallied in support of the sport's legalization in The Empire State, it was removed from the state's budget last year when Reilly sent a letter signed by 48 members of the 150-seat Assembly to the Speaker, Sheldon Silver, requesting MMA's removal.  

UFC President Dana White discusses, what he believes, are the true motives behind keeping Mixed Martial Arts out of New York below:


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  • whitey
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    This guy is a tit - can't stand him.

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  • David Saucier
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    I dont wish harm on anyone, but I hope this guy gets struck by lightning

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  • xcityofemberx
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    Put Bob in the middle of the human centipede :D

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  • sambo
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    too bad we can't buy insurance to help the brain injured that get elected to the state assembly

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    Hilarious. . .lol. Bob Reilly should be poked to death by a brittle old woman with a spoon. It's a blunt, angry, sad, pathetic way to die. It fits him.



    Seriously, though, Bob. Why don't we just close down football and hockey while we're at it.

    Bad things have happened in those.



    Hell, that one guy clocked himself on the high dive in the olympics, and a luger got killed.

    We should shut those down too.



    I know there are a lot of amateur wrestlers, skiers, and the like that have shitty knees now. Why should they be allowed to continue.



    I guess curling might not have ever had any injuries. I don't know, but that's speculation.

    Bubble-blowing should be our new national pastime.



    **** New York and Bob Reilly. . . he's a tw@t.



    Goddamned politicians.

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  • ogobska
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    i think bob is the one that needs insurance. someday NY will legalize MMA(just like boxing) unless bob lives for the next 200 years :D

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  • japanegro23
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    Politicians do suck...

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  • David Saucier
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    Just look at this last boxing match how many un answered power shots did Mosley take, and the fight wasnt stopped, you start taking unanswered shot in MMA the fight is stopped, Mosley isnt going even be able to speak 20 years from now.

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  • sambo
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    The Fertitas/UFC should ban NY State from the UFC and Strikeforce....ignore their state for a few yrs,no more fights in Jersey, no ppv purchases in NY,blackout free broadcasts of fights etc. Wouldn't be long before the Assembly would be begging them to come,cause of all the grief they would get from the voters of NY.

    It would be a welcome change from watching the UFC bullied by a little worm that looks like he's never done an honest days work in his life

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  • SPQR
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    Mann...**** bob reilly!

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  • doomsdayapex
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    A politician speaks... and I can't seem to comprehend. God, I wish I were fluent in bulls***.

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  • Drewfloyd
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    The amount of injuries suffered in mma is no bigger than sports football, basket ball and hockey, if not less. Bob Reilly is just a bitter old F*CK trying to make himself look good for the rest of the people by not allowing this "barbaric" and "damaging" sport to be put on. Cant wait til MMA is Legalized in NY and we see this hypocrite fail bigtime.

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  • MMAeveryDay
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    He apperantly just needs to worry about his brain! If he's so concerned then he should attach boxing instead!

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  • MMAW
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    old ignorant bastard. if he truly believes his brain damage statement then why is Boxing allowed there?

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  • WingChun
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    Personally - I've had all the trash talking of unions that I can stand and I'm nor member of any union. The United States, indeed any western democracy you can name, was a whole lot better off when we had strong unions; White should check his facts.



    All the union busting and job exportation under NAFTA and every other "free-trade" compact that we have entered into, has done nothing for the average worker or family. In fact, it has decimated the average working family.



    I always find it funny - when citizens and workers in the Middle-East take to the streets in protests and riots, they are referred to as heroes; struggling for their rights. Yet, back here, when citizens take to the streets to exercise their legal rights, they are laughed at, scorned and ridiculed, by the press and the powers-at-be; those that own the media.



    It seems as though - the only unions that people like Dana can live with are the millionaire unions of professional sports. I certainly never hear White or anyone else for that matter, bitching about the unions in the NBA, NFL, MLB or NHL; I guess unions of millionaires are acceptable, where unions of millions of working men and women (who are barely surviving these days) are not.



    ...#### White, on this issue. He's a millionaire moron.

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    It is not that simple.



    Unions served the country well, long ago, when there were no rules or regulations for companies in their treatment of employees. After many battles, civilized rules were put into place such as: 40 hour work week, minimum wage and a whole host of reasonable checks and balances on the behavior of employers.



    But over time, the balance shifted--and you could not be employed in many places unless you were a member of the union. Union's excercised blatant favoritism and nepotism in hiring and admitting new members. Unions won the right to collectively bargain--effectively holding a company hostage unless it caved to their demands.



    The reason the issue is not simple is that there are arguments on both sides of the fence which have truth.



    The biggest problem is not unions but is free trade without fair trade. How can you have a good paying job if goods can be manufactured in another country which does not have labor laws, pollution laws, worker safety laws etc. and those goods can be imported tariff free?



    The answer is, it is impossible--the jobs leave the country, and cheap goods at Wal-Mart abound.

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  • WingChun
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    @ Code



    No - it's not that simple and there is truth to both sides; agreed. And have or did unions become a problem? Well, they certainly became a problem when they became corrupt at the top and nothing more than a delivery mechanism for votes to the Democrats; ceasing to be the defender and mallet of the working man. However, with that said, if unions have become a problem or problematic, then what about big money donors? What about Wall St.?



    I think more to the point and to be blunt - to have this conversation or debate, without raising the larger issues of how our nation(s) are governed and controlled, is ridiculous and a waste of time.



    In order to have this discussion in a full, we would need to bring in such topics as: The CFR, The Trilateral Commission, The Bilderberg Group, The Bohemian Grove, Corporate owned media and The Federal Reserve and how we "create" (fiat) money.



    On these subjects - I'm quite confident that White doesn't know his ass from his elbow.



    Respectfully,



    Wing Chun

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  • Joey Santosus
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    Aside from both of your arguments, which I will not voice an opinion on because I live in Florida, a union free state, why should that affect the legalization of a sport? It has nothing to do with the issue at hand and I think that is the point that angers White and the rest of the MMA community. Now, does White have other personal opinions on the union topic, I'm quite sure he does, but again, not the point here.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    @WingChun: I don't even know where to begin to sift through the bullshit in your post, and I don't feel like having another war with someone on here right now, so I'll just say that you have no idea what you're talking about, and move on with life before you try to suck precious minutes of my life away by getting me to respond to your inane and ignorant bullshit.

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  • WingChun
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    @ JS



    What angers White - is that he can't have his way and anyone that gets in his way, for whatever reason, is wrong and is a problem. I certainly don't think you can take the unions position and sum it up as easily as White thinks, he can.



    The bottom line - this is about money; money for White and his partners. What he fails to take into consideration, also, is that it's about money for the union (also) and it's members. If, for whatever reason, they have chosen to pick a fight here and make a stand, then so-be-it. I am fine with MMA not being in New York. It's not as if the whole of the MMA world swings and hinges on NY.



    As to you living in a union free state and you lack of willingness to express an opinion - I don't get it. The statement fails to compute. I don't see how that would have anything to do with anything. By the extension of that logic JS, there would be an infinite number of things that you could not comment on, (simply) because you are from Florida. By this argument, you are basically saying you do not have the right or the competence to comment on anything, which exists beyond the Florida state line.



    Cheers,



    Wing Chun

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  • Joey Santosus
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    Well, you have to understand, I was born and raised here and therefore am not educated enough on the topic to express an opinion. It would be unfair and even ignorant of me to pretend to have knowledge on an issue that I know so little about. I do, however, realize that it has nothing to do with MMA and should not stand in the way of an entire sport based on who owns a company.

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  • WingChun
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    @ JS



    Again - the argument fails to compute.



    On the one hand you are telling me you are not educated enough on the subject and even ignorant of it (your word not mine), yet you have an opinion on how unions or this particular union, is thwarting the world of The UFC / MMA. I would call that myopic.



    And whether or not you realize or believe that it has nothing to do with MMA, is a moot point - to the union; they don't care. The same way that you don't care about their members and what they are fighting for and to hang on, too.



    Here's how I see it in a nutshell - rich / powerful people believe that they should always get what they want; should always get their way.

    And lets face facts, when they can pick up the phone and get whomever they wish on the line or to respond to them (meetings, emails etc), then why should they think differently. Trust me, the governor of a state, premier of a province, law maker of any kind, will take Dana White's phone call before they ever take mine or yours, JS.



    The rich feel that anything that stands in their way is the enemy and has no value or cause to stand / exist. If a union is in their way, then the union and all the workers they represent are bad and even, evil people.



    Concluding - it is my guess Joey, that the only reason you support this is because you are an MMA fan and that is all. However, if somehow the scenario were reversed and what was called for was the creation of a union in New York in order to facilitate MMA in New York, then you would be for that. Subsequently, the argument becomes give me what I want and pay no attention to what others want; particularly if those others are directly affected by my / these actions and in a state that you don't live in. I mean, what skin is it off your nose, that, in an effort to have MMA in NY, you might end up having to lower the wage rate and job security of workers in New York. It's nothing to you, you live in Florida; F-em. Who cares about his fellow man, so long as we can get more MMA.



    Cheers,



    Wing Chun

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  • Joey Santosus
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    Lol, with much respect, I have to admit I chose not to read ur comment. How you are formulating these long responses to such a simple remark is beyond me. All I am saying is that an argument based on Unions should not affect the legalization of a sport. If there is truth to this, which I would say it sounds plausible, then it is wrong. Unless you believe that the argument Reilly proposes is his genuine feelings on the matter.

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  • Kendell
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    ur retarded..derp derp

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  • WingChun
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    @ JS



    You chose to chime in Joey; you were not asked.



    If you subsequently (then) decide to ignore the response(s) you solicit, then it is-what-it-s and I cannot do anything about it.



    I have given you the respect of both reading and responding to your comments. If you have not shown me a similar respect, as you have clearly stated, then I would see no reason to continue to respond to you or, for that matter, to read anything that you might post; comment or otherwise.



    Wing Chun

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  • MereDictum
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    Let this be a lesson to you- this guys is often wrong but never in

    doubt and he thrives in a forum where he anonymously writes "quips"

    with headers like "does not compute" and "in conclusion."   I have a

    feeling he's not quite all there in the real world.



    Roll with a pig and you get dirty.   Arguing with him requires dumbing

    down your brain.

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  • azzkika
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    Sometimes wing goes into essay mode without due thought, but I think on this particular matter he raises a valid point.

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  • Joey Santosus
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    He may, but I am not equipped to debate the topic with him, as I so kindly explained from the very start. I did, however, remark that any issue regarding Station Casinos decision not to unionize, should have no impact on the legalization of an entire sport. That is a no brainer... So when I said I was confused as to why he was directing all of this other stuff at me, I was being genuine.

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  • Rusted Redeemer
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    It's alright, Joey. I read some of his bilge. You don't need to try to debate this with him. I'm in a state where Unions are a frequent issue (and problem), so I COULD debate this with Wing.



    I refuse to debate it with him, because it would just drain time from my life that I couldn't get back, and annoy me. Also, it wouldn't do any good.



    Like MereDictum said. . . Just back away slowly.

    . . . also, put your sandwich on the ground, it may distract Wing long enough for you to make a run for it.

    . . .That's it. . . Now back away, Joey. . .



    RUN, FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST!!!!

    ;)



    This saying applies here: "Don't argue with idiots. . . they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

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  • The Woods''
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    I believe that Mma is safer than boxing and there shouldnt be any dispute in sactioning but in truth, none of us really know the long term effects it will have on fighters. Unfortunatley we're living in a time where there isn't enough extensive research on head trauma and grappling related effects such as osteoarthritis, within MMA. We still have to remember, its a relatively new sport. The generations still have to pass in order for us to research this properly like boxing. These athletes need to be tested much later in their lives for us to truly know.



    Im just saying, I wouldn't find it suprising if someone like Sakuraba had some type of physical complication when he's in his 70's.

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  • OllieHill
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    Lets be honest, this prick clearly knows nothing about Mixed Martial arts.

    The fact that MMA is still not allowed in New York baffles me.

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  • Krogan
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    It's amazing that people this stupid are elected by the American people, I mean that statement doesn't even make any sense at all.

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  • postmortem
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    i have worked construction for many years and i can safely say that it is way more dangerous than mma and much more physically damaging to your body. should we ban construction or any other dangerous occupation. the truth is while you dont have people punching in the face every day there are thousands of occupations that are more dangerous than mma.

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  • azzkika
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    Just ask any soldier or oil rig diver.

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  • Six
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    More Dangerous than MMA ...

    Bungie jumping, Riding a motorcycle, parachuting, and listening to this man speak.

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  • ahhhhhhhhhhhh
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    lol @ 'why should they need insurance for injuries, just stop the injuries', what a complete and utter fannyflap

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  • wolf
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    you know what f**k new york, if they have assemblyman like this representing them then they can do one. the guy knows nothing about martial arts, has no facts whatsoever, and knows nothing about sports in general. the idea that this guy is allowed to express his views worldwide, and pollute our great sport is unbelievable.

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  • michaelchimique
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    this guy is an idiot for instance he says mma people say theres never injuries..if you look at dana white when he speaks for his company they never say there hasnt been injuries..anytime he speaks he says theres never been a death or SERIOUS injury..

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    His speech Was etiquette but lacks passion

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    i was gonna go on an angry rant but now theres no point.............F*ck boob riely!

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