Alchemist Management: Jorge Rivera fought with heart when others would have quit
Posted on February 27, 2011, 01:52 AM by Joey SantosusMichael Bisping's knee to Jorge Rivera's face in the first round of their fight at UFC 127 was illegal and flush on Rivera's face. But instead of taking a dive and possibly the win, Jorge fought on unlike other fighters who would have used it as an excuse to get the W. Michael Bisping tagged Jorge while BOTH of his knees were on the canvas. When was the last time you saw that? Answer-Never. Jorge was dazed but fought on anyway. How many fighters would be able to do so?
For all of Bisping's big talk of being more of a professional than Jorge, he still used a homophobic slur during the weigh ins and then spit on Rivera's coaches when the fight was over. How can you claim to be more of a professional after that? Jorge was completely justified in saying Michael Bisping is ruled by his emotions.
The stoppage was quick, but we won't fight it. Michael Bisping won fair and square and as Jorge said before the fight, if he wins, he wins. That's all there is to it. - Jorge Rivera's Management
The bitter grudge between Michael Bisping and Jorge Rivera quickly made it one of the most anticipated bouts of the UFC 127 line-up. As the match-up got underway, it was clear that each fighter was prepared to mix it up. While the striking remained fairly even, it wasn't long before Bisping shot in and successfully executed a takedown. Things took a turn for the worse as Rivera began to emerge and was struck in the head with an illegal knee. Although it appeared the fight would be stopped, as Rivera was noticeably shaken by the blow, "El Conquistador" insisted he could fight on and so the bout continued. Other than a heavy right hand that rocked the Brit in the second round, it was all Bisping from there. After a quick recovery, Bisping unleashed a flurry of punches that resulted in a second round TKO stoppage.
Following the bout, many argued that the victory was tainted, overshadowed by the illegal strike. Others feel as though Rivera's decision to continue was evidence of his recovery. So what do you think Lowkickers? Did the knee change the course of the fight? Should Bisping have been disqualifed? Voice your thoughts in the comments section below.
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Comments
Just like jon jones elbow against matt hamill... Bisping should have
been DQ'ed
there have been may occassions when someone does a knee when they dont mean to but its in the heat of them moment. It doesnt make someone a cheat.
Good news for Jorge Rivera, apparently Nickelodeon are recruiting new kids tv personalities .... He's guaranteed a job, so is his boxing coach ... but he'll have to clean the spit off his face first
completely agree, should have been disqualified and suspended. It was willfully trying to injure someone. I could understand if you came from another organization that allowed that it may have been heat of the moment. Bisping has been in the UFC for a long time..it was a bitch move regardless of what the outcome would have been. Which I personally believe that Bisping would have won anyway.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/02/27/jorge-rivera-says-classless-bisping-hit-him-with-intentional-i/
Here's the other side of the story...
@drop kick. for al the people who have used the knee to a downed opponent before this fight, have they all been disqualified or suspended. Well you know the answer is NO, so why start taking shit cos its bisping who has done it. If rivera couldnt continue then the fight would have been stopped and it was riveras call, but as for getting suspended, you really are talking shite.
Everyone knows that Michael is working for his title shot... Michael would not have deliberately hit a downed opponent because it could potentially delay his chance of taking a shot.
I am personally a fight fan and it's unfortunate when prejudice gets in the way of rational judgement.
/ Odesa
I don't recall one fighter with that blatant of an illegal blow in a very long time.
It was blatant and irresponsible with no apology or remorse...he is a douche. Gonna go watch Hendo knock him out again
On reflection I also believe the the blow to be blatant and illegal, it was also irresponsible.
To be fair, amazing fighters like Matt Hughes, and Vitor Belfort have also been knocked out early with one meaningful shot.
If you were to use this rule to judge Michael then it could be argued that you are not taking into account other fighters who have suffered from the same fate.
Understanding that your intention is to create a balanced and reasonable argument, I wonder how you will assimilate this feedback within the previous structure of your thinking?
/ Odesa
@slickrick. that was funny. rivera runs his mouth like an idiot then finds himself slumped by the cage, looking old and busted. Totally relying on his right hand and he called bisping a pussy at the weigh ins and also made a point that bisping lands the most power punches without dropping anyone. How ironic that bisping dropped rivera and finished him, but when rivera hit bisping, he got straight off the floor . Rivera the crazy old fool.
Are you english? wow you must be proud...
Judging from your photo I am suprised you could even see the fight. Did you steal your glasses from Ray Charles?
- America is an amazing country with amazing people and like most places it has its slums. Your ignorance is reflected by the beliefs you use to formulate your points... Countries are not people and anyone who would make an assertion as though that were true are living in a mental or physical slum, perhaps you are a combination.
Take your glasses off and you may possibly see.
Good luck
Odesa
Well there some good news for you as well Slickrick, your boy bisbing is going to need a nuthugger when starts fighting some real competition. Looks like he needs to look no further.
So you know lots of British men with small dic%s?
It's possible that you are on the wrong website.
Q. How did you know to sleep with so many Englishmen given the fact they all have small dic%s?
Q. What percentage of the gay male population did you test prior to coming to that conclusion?
Q. How did you come up with the idea to test your theory and how are you dealing with the effects of being used by British men with small dic%s? (Please do not include your posts on this website, as this therapy is not working it seems?)
Take care of yourself and each other!
Doesn't make the knee any more legal. Jorge was never the same after the knee. He was fighting on desperation, which is a shame because he was concussed by an illegal knee. I respect him for wanting to continue but his eyes did not look like a man that needed to get hit again. Bad call.Should have ended in a no contest or a DQ. Jorge is probably going to be done soon.
The hospital ruled out concussion.
Knee or no knee why would anyone want to see a re-match? The match shouldn't have been made in the first place as it was such a gross mis-match.
In fact Rivera had no business being on the main card in the first place.
...Yeah, but Rivera was BARELY getting up. That's why he was on both knees. I feel that illegal knee was deliberate.
How are you able to rule out the fact that Michaels motivation for gaining a title shot would have precluded him from using an illegal strike whic would add another L to his record and potentially rule out his chances of continuing?
According to whom is he a B Class Fighter.
What specifically is a B Class fighter?
How specifically were you able to create this classification?
How might the UFC compare your classification to their own?
It is clear that you are expressing your feelings and values honestly, however, these feelings and values have led you to emotionally judging a situation without taking into account feedback and information which goes against your posiiton?
What is more important, finding the truth or being perceived right by yourself? How successful is your thinking strategy in other areas of your life? What might improve as a result of re-evaluating your beliefs against other beliefs? How might you re-evaluate your re-evaluation strategy?
/ Odesa
I didnt say he was a cheat... But the knee landed, it phased rivera and
the fight could have been called right there. He obviously never recovered from the Knee... See him at the press confrence ? no
that knee was totally illegal! im not a huge bisping fan but i do sorta like him sometimes. it was so obvious that he meant it, just by his reaction alone. he gave the finger to riveras corner and beconed rivera to get up offering no apology. if he was dq'd i wouldnt have complained but i enjoyed the whole pre match hype this fight got. and must say im enjoying this brit vs yank argument that has gone on below.
If Bisping wanted it that way he should have got his head soccer kicked into the front row when Jorge rocked him in the first
Bisping is the British Josh Koscheck minus the punching power. He is clearly disrespectful and he landed that knee on purpose. It's the same way Koscheck clearly low blowed and eye poked Anthony Johnson.
Bisping showed his true colors when he spit at Rivera's coaches. Using the excuse at the press conference that "It was adrenaline" is weak. If that's an excuse, Paul Daley should still be in the UFC. It's funny how trash talk is only OK when Bisping is the one doing it. What class.
What specifically is weak about this comment?
Only anyone with fights under their belt need answer the question because armchair Kung fu whilst drinking beer, eating chips and scratching yourself whilst sitting in your caravan reminiscing about the day you beat up the new kid at school doesn't make you a fighter.
Or am I wrong?
/ Odesa
He did it on purpose...it was not in a flowing combination. He paused - thought about it - then executed it with a shameful amount of force...
I have come to agree with your conclusion after discussion and consideration.
I would say that if you are going to do something illegal in a fight it is best to make it count. To not use maximum force whilst risking disqualification would be shameful in some peoples eyes too!
/ Odesa
sorry but Bisping seen he was still down he stepped back and then kneed him and for a guy that has been fighting under these rules
for as long as he has and being a pro fighter ...its like being nailed
in the nuts most fighter kinda go ohh chit sorry and put there hands up
as an apology not set up to do it again, if the ref didnt step in he was in the middle of grabbing the head to knee again.....sad....!!!!!!!!
Isn't interesting that you haven't specified your objection. Abstract argumentation is the basis of your position, is it not?
Dont chat shit, it was a mistake made in the heat of the moment, 1 knee. not 6 illegal elbows to the face. he was given the oppertunity to quit or continue and he continued. Respect to him for carrying on, but in my opinion it would have gone Bisping way regardelss. All Jorge had was a right hand ... that's it.
he spit on jorge coaches like wtf dude if your a bisping fan wow u have no respect
are you fing jking me after the shit the put on the internet for the whole world to laugh at bisping. if it was you made to look like a compltet tit what would you have done?
Lets not forget the star and mastermind behind all of Jorges videos about Bisping was infact his boxing coach in his corner. He deserved a slap!
nice and over the top YANK!
@GoocH
But a deliberate illegal knee isn't over the top? Man you guys just draw the line wherever it suits your guy best.
im glad he did it and given the chance i would of stamped on that ****ing pussy's head coz im a nasty bastard and i love getting revenge on ppl i hate. thats me just like you all loved it when hendo smashed an allready KO'd bisping on the ground which i think if fine it doesnt even bother me man thats the way it is im just glad he won which suits me just fine.
The flag in your icon shows your bias
I never said I wasnt Biased on this matter. All I know is that if I were Bisping, I would also be very angry at the way Jorge disrespected him.
And another thing for you cry babies from across the pond, you can't take a joke and can't play with the big boys
B class? lol your a retard, hes a top 10 mw in the UFC (the best mma organisation in the world) ... that means hes A class 100%
Can't play with the big boys.
ya one huge knee to the forhead, with both knees down = 6 elbows.
He prob had a concussion and carried on because he's a tuff dude.
And in my opinion he did it on purpose.
Give him Chael Sonnen in a few months and watch bisping
get smashed back to his gate keeper roll, he's not championship
material mark my words.
S.T.F.U. A**hole. Nobody cares about your dumba** opinion.
"And in my opinion he did it on purpose"
In my opinion your hatred for Bisping is clouding your judgement.
Lets get the facts straight:-
1) He is not the first fighter to throw a illegal knee in the heat of the moment. Yet before it's Bisping it must have been deliberate unlike other fighters.
2)He rightly had a point deducted and Rivera said he was still good to fight. Therefore at the re-start all was fair again bar the fact that Bisping was under more pressure to finish the fight, which he did in the next round.
3)Rivera can't have been concussed if he still threw that big right in the 2nd.
Nice version of events from you hondata. Completely fictional of course but made for a funny read.
uh no sir, Watch the fight again... You can tell by the look
in Riveras eyes that he was concussed. HE TOOK A KNEE TO THE FORHEAD ! When have you seen a guy with both knees down get kneed in the head ? ya never son, skip rocks.
Its my opinion he did it on purpose and you cant prove it any diffrent.
Rivera should have quit the fight but he has heart.
Your right i dont like Bisping, He showed his true colors once again after the fight. I WAS a fan of his, but he turned me off big time as
a coach on TUF he was a ****y ****, and Hendo made me proud
when he KO'ed him for the good old USA !
Hondata79? are you serious ... have u really never seen a downed opponent take a knee to the face before? it happens all the time u amateur prick
So should we all forget about Hendo cheap shoting Bisping when he was clearly out cold on the floor...... Infairness even if he did or didnt purposely knee him on the fore head he chose to continue on, and do you not think of the doctors thought he was concussed that they wud have stopped the fight, after all they have the first call not the fighters...
To be fair, what Hendo did wasn't illegal. Furthermore, the ref hadn't stopped the fight yet, so technically it wasn't a cheap shot; however, it was probably in bad sportsmanship to do it.
hey doctor data Rivera wasnt concussed, u would have no way of knowing that at the moment, and Rivera was checked out by the hospital and he DID NOT HAVE A CONCUSION.
a222g.... When the knee hit, watch Rivera's ear's wiggle... OK now punch yourself in the face... ears prob didnt wiggle huh ? OK OK Now
go slam your head into the wall... See the diffrence ?
His bell was rung son !
TO SLICKRICK DICK
Man you crack me up!!!! I have been giggling over your posts and here is why.
1. check your spelling
2. You may as well savour this moment, because in all honesty, Bisbing In my opinion would have won this fight without the knee. Having said that, The knee was on purpose, plain and simple. It shows his personality and respect for the sport, I said sport, not the person.
3.Bisbing will never be a champion because he doesn't have the skills to play with the big boys.
4.All the big boys don't even want to play with you Brits because you sound kinda gay.
Slick.... Of course ive seen a knee to a downed fighter BUT most the time its one knee down and on the way up... Rivera had BOTH knees down, he had just rolled over from bottom, KNOWING bisping could only use hand strikes, so he was covering up, bisping clinched and tossed a knee. Alot of the time its a close call, this was not....
amateur prick huh.... Im ranked 24th in picks on Lowkick, I prob know a thing or two, or im really lucky, either way YOUR A DIRTY FAT WANKER !
My responses to littlewizard:
1) Dont give a fck about spelling, this aint to fkin school class ... its an mma website for fans
2) Are you actually Bisping ... no, you are not. Therefore you cannot say that the knee was definitely on purpose. You have no idea what was going on in Bispings head, he might have genuinely mistimed it.
3) Doesn't have the skills to play with the big boys. By big boys I assume you mean top 5. So far he has demonstrated that he hasn't, but time will tell
4) Do I really need to justify your 4th point? its just pathetic, so many brits wud kick ur arse it makes me chuckle.
Sounds like Bisping's ONLY fan is backed into a corner, what a retard.
chael would take him down and do slow GnP on bisping (GSP style) that imo wouldnt stop him. no1 has stoped bisping on the ground or even done damage to him. yea chael mauled silva on the ground but really did silva go crazy and try to stand back up? no he just squirmed for 5 rounds and still won. chael is super strong (might of had somthing to do with what was foung in that piss sample) and has awsome take downs. hes not an amazing mixed martial artist he just has fight winning strong points.
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i used him as an argument if you read it right. allways so ocky..
dont blame bisping for what he did **** riveria hes a bitch who talked his way into a fiht he didnt deserve
Wasnt too impressed with bisping tho his finish was weak and the illegal knee was definatly on purpose
I dont think bisping should be fighting bums like this guy come on
How your gunna complain about not getting respect when yu acted like a moron all over the internet like yur a joke shutup yu suck
lol were you watching the same fight as every1 else? have you actually looked at the fight stats? Bisping dominated Rivera in the stand up, from the very first round. Yeah, Bispi9ng took a couple of right hands ... thats it.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Still can't play with the big boys
Corey is currently a white belt in Aikantdo,
I suggest you don't critisize his position but simply allow him to fester in his own opinion.
you got to admit it bisping is a joke throws that knee on puropose and then spits at the corner what a joke i hope they give him a tough fight next so we get to see him do what he dose best laying flat on his back toes curled out cold just like after hendo was finished with his arse
Stop whining. Yes he threw an ilegal knee in the heat of the moment. Like no other fighter has ever done that before.?!?! He got penalised with a point deduction and Rivera said he was ok to still fight. So Bisping did what he needed to do and finished the fight i the 2nd having probably been down on the judges scorecards.
Don't let your own prejudices get in way of the truth.
Bet you would be bitching if rivera would have said he couldent fight and Bisping got the DQ instead. Your right on the fact Bisping did what he was supose to (point taken away then he went for the finish cuz he had too) But still Rivera was dazed and confused, so it dont mean much to me.
I wouldn't be bitching actually. I'd accept that Mike had lost to a better fighter instead of coming up with excuses.
At the end of the day their mouths wrote cheques that their asses couldn't cash. They goaded a fight with someone who who was way aboove their level and paid the price. Now that they got found out, they go crying for a suspension from the UFC. They need to man-up and take their medicine like they deserve it.
Maybe if their boxing coach spent more time of Jorges stand-up and less time making stupid videos his boy may have represented himself better.
haha bisping won and theres nothing you can do about it!
Anyone else disappointed in Rivera ??
I mean what type of game plan was it ?? just throw a right hand and hope for the best ?? :grumble:
Love or hate bisping but only real good fighters seem to get the better of him
Did u really expect Jorge to do anything else? A big, fast, straight right hand is all he has. Bisping is very well rounded and has cardio that lasts forever. I only saw this going one way.
lol, your weak Corey. Trying to tar a whole nation with a single brush. We have plenty of good fighters and we are constantly evolving and bringing new fighters up through the ranks. True mixed martial artists that are now starting to actually learn wrestleing as well as all other disciplines. Bisping made a mistake, its happened plenty of times in other fights. he was deducted a point and then he smashed Jorge back to the undercard where he belongs, get over it.
Why is it a fact that NOONE IN BRITTIAN HAS A BELT!!!!!!
Its because the can't play with the big boys!!!!!!!!!
well it pretty much started with the brazilians and americans about 12 years ago and the brits came into the equation about 3/4 years ago now stop being a tit **** sake..
HAHA... twat
oh stop it.. you norty man you!
its called marketing, its actually a smart move by rivera. he put himself in a better position to make money. bispings a little sensitive, a humble man would have shrugged it off
Can't play with the big boys.
can you play with the big boyz?
Not at all, i don't claim to be even be able to sit in the same room with any of these world class athletes. I'm simply making a point that someone could get under the skin of anyone. It can be done without even knowing someone, that is if you let it!!!! Obviously more than I intended.
yeah only the better guys get the best of him and he just squeeks through anginst everyone else and as far as doing what he had to do lets see what you would say if the roles were reversed and that prick wore a ilegal shot
If the roles were reversed i'd say exactly the same. I'd say the knee was unfortunate but ultimately the right guy one and completely dominated that fight.
your whole country is on steroids.
true no game plan from jorge and only the better guys do get the better of bisping as far as doing what he had to do it was ileagl and what would you say if it was bisping that was hit by a bullshit pussy move like that and lost
I'd say thank god the fight was't ruined by a unecessary DQ. The better fighter got to prove he was superior ad we don't have to wait for a pointless re-match which would have ended with the same dude winning 6 months later anyway.
some1 isnt taking this very well..
bisping is the biggest piece of sh*t in the ufc. I understand Rivera talked alot of sh*t but to react the way he did before and after the fight showed me that bisping is a f*ckin moron. Funny how Bisping can talk all the crap he wants but as soon as someone beats him at his own game he starts fussin like a b*tch.
As for the fight i knew it was over after the knee. Rivera looked dazed the rest of the fight. Bisping deserved to get dq'd for that...heat of the moment my ass. How could you not realize ur opponent is on his knees in that situation?!?!?! That sh*t was dirty
username says it all really
im easily amused. i thought milkytits was the best name on here but i think you just won.
Ha Ha Ha, u didnt watch the same fight as every1 else then, your boy Jorge got dominated from the first second of the first round! realise this, and u will go far.
im happy that your pissed off
Blind and retarded.
Still can't play with the big boys. Has to stay on the porch.
also happy that your pissed off too deal with it ya bunch of ****ing babies! how old are you all it was a fight have any of you ever had a fight? i dont give a shit if you train MMA.. go out get punched in the face wake up horrible little twats! seriously post after post of the same shit he won! thats the end of it and theres nothing you can do so **** off!
I cant stand Bisbing. Acts like hes so good. He needs to change the little boy haircut, looks like a 10year old. I cant wait till he gets a title shot so Silva could serve him a Sigal kick back to England. Tea & Crumplets anyone.
I cant stand Bisbing. Acts like hes so good. He needs to change the little boy haircut, looks like a 10year old. I cant wait till he gets a title shot so Silva could serve him a Sigal kick back to England. Tea & Crumplets anyone.
Hey, are you sure u posted this enough times? sum1 is obviously rather upset their lil home boy Jorge got his arse handed to him, oh well ... life goes on little boy
U.K. poster boy spits on opposing coaches? He should be banned from UFC for life.
how does it feel that the best fighter out of England has to cheat to win???
You're easily one of the most stupid biased people on this site, I'm actually sick of hearing your BS.
Stop ya bitching Corey and the rest of you haters. You're giving mma fans a bad name with your retarded comments.
Bisping won the fight and that's that. Would have the outcome been different without the illegal knee? Possibly but highly unlikely as Riviera only had a right hand and bad cardio to go with it.
Was this a great performance by Bisping? No. Only had to dodge the right hand and tee off and still ate the right hand a couple of times. But without doubt Bisping is a top tier MW and needs a top name in his next fight. Hard to get at MW though as they are thin on the ground.
Dana should give Bisbing Okami to test Bisbings skills. Bisbings I personally think hes overated. Face it the middle weight division sucks so all they have is Bisbing to use as their little mascot to challenge Silva. But we all know once they some how give him a shot Anderson is going to destroy him & he wil be like the rest of the other middlewieghts. Waiting on Silva to retire.
Personally I don't think it hit as hard as it first looked, hit his hand first and he wasn't that hurt, was mostly making sure they would take the point I think. Bisping outclassed him in every way and in the end Jorge did just give up.
......
Well I guess Jorge's mouth overloaded his ass, lol. Best fight of the night by far. For me, well lets just say Bisping is a punk, this was drama at its best. Usually fight hype is what it sounds like, hype, but this time I think Bisping truly hated Jorge. Thats the best Bisping ever looked. Jorge, you tube allmost got you murdered. Funny shit, really.
Doesn't matter if the knee was intentional or not, instant DQ, Bisping lost the fight, just like the Jones/Hamill fight, no difference. They should not have allowed the fight to continue.
They should just give Bisping a title shot now and when Anderson Silva kicks the living sh*t out of him maybe Bisping will S.T.F.U. already.... and we can move on.
he thought dan henderson rocked him, wait until silva unleashes some shit on him.
out of all the fighters in the ufc, nobody fights scared except for bisping. he looks and sounds like an ugly kid in the playground.
jorge is a man, he hyped up the fight. he took an illegal knee and still kept on going!!! that knee without a doubt gave him a concussion. bitchping knew what he was doing, kneeing a kneeling man is just pure spiteful. jorge is going to need 24 if not 42 hour observation for any intracranial hematomas.
if it was bisping that got the illegal knee, you think he would continue? he's a bitch. dan hardy, paul kelly are the only decent uk fighters around.
I notice you didn't mention ANYTHING about the lead up to the fight. The months of personal abuse. I wonder if that had anything to do with him being hot headed.
Few things.
1. That knee wasn't intentional, Rivera was less than a second away from getting a knee up. In was split second stuff, could have happened with anyone and does happen all the time. It's not like Koscheck, who was clearly just cheating. It's just a question of bad timing.
2. Rivera was acting like he didn't even know where he was then was straight up and fine all of a sudden. It was a supernatural recovery considering how he was milking it. I don't even think it hurt him that badly to be honest. Used to happen in PRIDE constantly and people recovered straight away. Fighters milk it in the UFC because it's against their rules. That's all. He took his time to rest, then got up.
3. He didn't spit on his cornermen, he just spat on the ring near them. **** isn't used in the modern world to suggest someone's gay so don't pull that card. **** is just a powerful sounding slur like the f word or the s word. It know it can be misconstrued but Mike never meant it like that. Words that are part of our collective mentality when used in high pressure situations can't be held up for scrutiny. It's just stupid. We all get hot headed and say the wrong thing from time to time, we just don't know about yours or mine because our lives aren't on camera. He deserved to be called every name under the sun in my opinion anyway. Jorge isn't gay, Mike knows that he has a wife and kids, if it had been a slur against his heritage "like JORGE was using in the build up" then it would have been an actual slur, as it stands - it was just a word for the sake of a word.
What I think is this. Jorge asked for the fight. He put out months of abusive videos. He thought he could KO Mike to raise his status using the stupid people out there that hate Mike because they think TUF is a real reflection of peoples personalities - instead of an unbalanced composite. Then he paid the price for it, the knee was early but not that bad, it's not like he went down like a sack of potatoes, he just got knocked back a bit. He had some time to recover, he wanted to continue "and fair play to him for that" and had recovered by the second, then Mike hit him with a series of the loudest and most powerful punches I've ever heard or seen him throw, and that was all see wrote.
I don't think he needed to, but he then released 2 legitimate apology videos for what he'd said and done. Unlike Jorge's apology video where he called Bisping a **** over and over for 3 or 4 minutes. Jorge got what he deserved.
Well reasoned and intelligent argumentation. I also wanted Michael to win the fight, after considering points other than my own, I have concluded that the knee strike was irrational/ intentional.
The reasoning presented in defense by Michael was accepted and like many others I look forward to seeing how far he is able to get, (with the support of the Fighter Development Program which doesn't officially exist within the UFC :)
/ Odesa
that knee really took a lot out of jorge, and bisping showed his true colors yet again. after kicking someone's ass, you continue to pop shit to him as he is dazed? come the **** on.
What are Bispings true colours, how would you know so specifically?
What do his true colours actually mean and does everyone actually see these colours or are you the only one?
This was bullshit. Yes the knee was illegal but if you look at the replay, Rivera was fine after the knee was thrown, it was only when the doctor came over that he started slumping over and clutching his head, as if he was badly concussed. Rivera would have let the fight get called off, it was clear he could see he was in over his head. I've got no respect for Rivera after this fight, he got everything he deserved for all the shit he said just to get himself attention before the fight.
You don't take a full knee to the head from anyone, much less someone with training, and are simply fine. Whether he acted like it hurt more then it actually did is not really for any of us to judge until we've gotten kneed in the head with full force.
Hi Stiks
I have personally taken a full force knee to the face in a fight, the place you get kneed and who plants the knee are contributing factors as are shoulders to neck muscularity, familiarity with taking shots, mental attitude and reason to recover and win...
It is easy to speculate and we could all do that, I think you make an excellent point - it is down to the individual.
/ Odesa
i honestly dont know why anyone likes bisping. sure hes a good fighter, but even that cant distract me enough from him being a total tool. i see all these bisping vlogs all over the place and think "who even cares? who actually wants to see anymore of bisping than they already have to?"
i totally agree with you.
Normally i don't care about the drama outside of the octagon but Bisping is the only fighter that pisses me off everytime i hear his voice. Like wtf has he done so great to talk the sh*t he does? id like to see someone (not a brit, obviously) justify why they like him.
I am on the internet 10 hours a day usually and dont see all these Bisping blogs. You only see what you want to on the internet, so stop searching them out if they make you mad.
So you see all this Bisping vlogs all over the place
This
Leads you to think, "who even cares"?
Perhaps,
Your intellect is so superior that counter intuitive feedback leads you to believe that although your beliefs do not correspond with the reality of the situation should be denied in order to support what you think.
In medical terms this would lead to tests to confirm your sanity. What thinking model did you use to draw your conclusion. It's intriguing!
Wow!!!
youre alone in this world
Dudeura****,
In your own world that may seem the case. Your point has no meaningful reference and is probably more reflective of your own status and position which is why you knew to make this comment.
Wow!
dude, the bisping vlogs are all over the very site youre posting on.
Bisping should probably have been DQ'd for that knee and IMO, JR was not the same after it.
Of particular note - was Bisping flipping-off someone at cage side (probably JR's corner or crew), while JR was downed on the canvas; classless.
It seems to me - that I've heard Dana White make negative comments about Nick Diaz for the doing the exact same thing and stipulating, that it was an example of one of the reasons why Diaz wasn't fighting in The UFC. I fail to understand why White would be okay with Bisping doing the exact same thing that he ridiculed Diaz for doing.
Of all the fighters in The UFC, Bisping is the only one I truly cannot stand. I can't wait to see this wanker get his ass handed to him again, as Henderson did or Wand would have finished doing, had there been a round four in his fight with MB.
Rivera is a joke... No cardio whatsoever... Bisping gave Jorge the beating he deserved.
So many people talk such BS on here. Rivera did look outclassed from the start, and although I am certain the knee was deliberate and did affect Rivera's performance, the outcome would have been pretty much the same.
I am English and I'll be the first to admit that we do not currently have world class fighters, our wrestling system is among the worst in the world, and we clearly have an attitude problem. The way Bisping conducts himself is not earning himself any fans as this post has proven. He is a good fighter, but not world class. I don't think he could last more than two rounds with Anderson, or any top three opponent at middleweight.
Sometimes it seems like I'm the only humble English person.