I guess maybe in Strikeforce! Not anywhere else thats for sure!
i don't see how you can second guess lashley, he is a better technical wrestler than brock and just as big,strong,and fast.
Hah lion, take your meds quick buddy.
I am unhappy about it but lashley does seem better than lesnar all around. I think he will do well and I thnk he would beat lesnar but I am not so sure how he would do against a very skilled opponent.
Since when is Lashley a better technical wrestler?
Who has Bobby fought? No legit fighter in the HW division. Brock would destroy him in the first round.
well aldo never fought anybody at one stage too and yet even without prior top tier fighters in his game he ended up going through them. You can make observations about someone you know. I feel with my observation that Lashley has the advantage.
I think brock won the lottery with the carwin fight, so what.
Right, and as long as he times his cycle just right, he'll maintain his physical prowess!
Based on what?
Come on ston3pony. Give the guys a break haha. Lashley does pass the "look" test. I really don't think he is as good as Lesnar but I think he is definitely the guy with the most potential to be as successful as Lesnar. Haven't seen how strong that chin is though. I can't imagine too many people getting up if Lashley is on top of them.
I'd say he's got the best chance (so far) of any ex professional wrestler to be as successful as Lesnar. I don't see him being a SF champion this year just because of the way they pick fights, but I think maybe next year is a possibility. As far as being technically better as a wrestler than Lesnar, I don't buy it.
His wrestling does look good, but, he's got to show something other than double-legs and sloppy gnp.
lashley has a better amatuer wrestling record than brock overall
What does brock show may I ask? He does everything Brock does but in my opinion he does it better.
no he doesnt
just observation of method, speed, strength and cntrol. If you see a huge difference then tell me where. he has not faced the same competition in most cases but he as proved he is a fast finisher and he might eve be stronger than brock. can you prove otherwise? He did a submission before brock did he definetly is a better striker than the hilarious punching brock does(although they must hurt a bit).
You can't prove anything, and you're the one making the ridiculous claims. He hasn't fought anybody. Not even anybody who's only a LITTLE terrible. He's not faster or stronger, let's see some numbers. Lesnar's are public record.
i have to agree with stone lashley has looked okay against guys who will never even make tha top 50. i dont see any criteria you can actually compare lashley to lesnar. lashley fights guys at the absoulute bottom of the bucket where lesnar has fought most of the top competition.
Yeah post, let's at least see one decent opponent before we start discussing title-shots.
But Lashley hasn't had any trouble either. People were able to make assertions about Aldo before he fought Brown and Faber and they were right by just judgeing his style, speeed etc, etc.
And you're confused if you saw anything good about that sloppy GNP which has been his only striking.
Look at his GNP on Sapp. It was far and I mean FAR better than Lesnars on anyone with his puppy shake a paw punching technique.
What claim did I make? I said I BELIEVE he is better than Lesnar. I never said I could prove anything, where did you read that or get tha from my posts. You're the one saying that just because Brock beat some guys that this accounts for domination over Lashley which is rediculous. How do you know he's not stronger, have you felt his arms or watched them lift weights? He in my opinion seems faster. What numbers do you want? What public record numbers mean anything in a fight against Lashley since Lashley is a different beast than what Lesnar has fought before, stylistacally they are very similiar but I give Lashley the edge.
you never know Brock brings a good top game to the table but what else not much he's striking is very very average. Lashley made a mistake of joining strikeforce. If he was in the UFC Dana would insist upon his full commitment to mma rather than him doing TNA as well if Lashley can improve his striking i have no doubt he'd be capable of beating good competition in strikeforce like an Arlovski for example who just got beat on the feet for three rounds against a guy he's supposed to have better striking than
Lashley vs Overeem is almost like Rogers vs Overeem, I see the same thing happening to Lashely, he's going to get overwhelmed by Overeem's striking and size and lose the fight
WIth Overeem holding the belt, there is no way.
lets be serious, big foot and overheem would murder this dude. and i don even have to talk about fedor fighting this clown.
but im calling it right here right now, when overheem and fedor fight, the demoliton man has it. guarenteeeed
people can hate on lashley all day, fact is the most decorated HW wrestler in MMA and will be a major force. i voted yes, tho he might not get the title next year he will get it eventually.
whoops actually Daniel Cormier is the highest lvl most decorated wrestler in MMA(keep an eye on him)
but lashley is a better wrestler than brock
How is Lashley more decorated a wrestler than Lesnar? You do know what the NCAA is, correct? Lesnar's amateur record was 106-5.
lashely was a ncaa champion and has many more titles than brock had, he is a better technical wrestler than brock
except lashley was never a hw wrestler he wrestled at 180 in college it wasnt till he joined the wwe that he juiced up and gained so much weight.
But who cares if it was HW or not it is still a great record and definetly a problem for brock. Brock was outwrestled by a division 2 champ so his success was likely due to his size more than his outstanding wrestling.
also lashley never wrestled ncaa he wrestled in one of the smaller divisions
well just remember who outwrestled brock.
I dont even think lashley is relevant until he faces some top tier competition, which he has yet to do
He has to get past Fedor, Overeem, and Werdum. That's a tall order for an inexperienced fighter.
i have yet to see lashley fight a top 100 hw so i really doubt he will be champ
yes if uberreem gets hit by a train and 2 bus.
I think if he gets a shot he will become champ for sure. I dont see how people can bash Lashley like they do, I believe he would destroy even Brock Lesnar. The guy is just as big but way faster and probebly stronger than Lesnar, not to mention hes got one hell of a ground game.
you are lashley's buddy or ur crazy
I like both ,, Lashley has not been tested like Lesnar .. both organizations have different caliber of fighters.. i give the edge to Lesnar
I appreciate that response. I definetly think Lesnar has been tested harder. I do however see the skill set of lashley being technically better.
Never beet overroids.
I have an even better question...is ocean front property on the moon really half off?
Not while Fedor, Overreem or maybe even Werdum or Bigfoot are still there.
Though he'll never be the champ as long as better competition exists, knowing SF's matchmaking, he'll get a shot.
Fedor, Ovareem, Werdum? This guy has never fought before in his mma career, how is "is he going to become the heavyweight champion a legitimate question." DUMBEST POLL EVER.
Lashley just lost to Griggs. By Strikeforce math that puts him in the running for a title shot.