Scott Coker wants Fedor vs Werdum II on Pay-per-View
Posted on June 27, 2010, 12:28 PM by Anton GurevichStrikeforce CEO Scott Coker discussed the possibility of the rematch between Fedor Emelianenko and Fabricio Werdum, declaring that the bout "should be a ppv". Coker refused to rule out the Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion Alistair Overeem from the picture, declaring that the fight between Werdum/Fedor and the Dutchman should still happen. Here is what Scott Coker had to say about what's next in Strikeforce:
"I think more people are going to want to see the rematch. That's how I feel. Fedor Emelianenko is going to come back, and I wouldn't want to be the one to fight him in a rematch. You're going to see him come out with a vengeance.
That should be a pay-per-view fight," Coker said. "[Werdum vs. Emelianenko II] is a fight fans are going to want to see. He dethroned the king."
To me, Fabricio and Fedor is going to be a mega-fight that we should promote," Coker said. "I also think that Fabricio vs. Alistair, the rematch against our champion, is something Alistair is going to want and would be another big fight. I think that he fight between Fedor and Alistair should still happen, as well.
A lot of it is going to depend on what M-1 wants to do. They will have some say."
As for M-1 Global, Vadim Finkelstein seemed a little bit less interested in a rematch against Vai Cavalo: "We'll see. The future will show. Fabricio Werdum, this is the first fighter who managed to defeat Fedor. That's why I certainly would thing it would be a great thing to have a rematch to be able to prove that Fedor is still the best."
By defeating The Last Emperor, Fabricio Werdum cut the terrifying 28-fight winning streak of his opponent. In light of Fedor's loss, many people are considering the UFC 116 match-up between Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin as the decider on who is currently the best 265'er in the World. UFC 116 will take place next Saturday, on July 3rd in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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"I think that he fight between Fedor and Alistair should still happen, as well.
" - only after Werdum vs Overeem, please Mr. Coker.
This shows how unprofessional Strikeforce is, and why they will never be as relevant as UFC. Werdum earned his chance but they still favor Fedor.
mega fight??? lol ya right!
Who wants to see Fedor fight Werdum again? Bwaa hahahah... and pay $50 to see him tap again. Strikeforce is now fading away.
That wont make or break an organization. Randy has had plenty of quick title shots. Or for example a few months ago when Dan beat Bisping and Nate beat Maia.... Who did Dana say deserved a shot.... wait for it..... Vitor! And hasn't Fitch worked his way back up yet? Anyways point is yes I agree SF does some screwball stuff but don't bring up the UFC like it doesn't do weird stuff.
Exactly...the fight didnt go how they wanted it to go so theyre making it happen again like theyre giving Fedor a do over. They gave Fedor a fight they all thought he would win and and say "the winner gets Overeem" when really they were banking on Fedor winning and making Fedor vs Overeem. Its obvious they favor Fedor and wanted him to win and theyre taking it from Werdum, he beat Fedor and deserves the title shot but they want to let Fedor fight Werdum again so he wins and then he can fight overeem...kinda has the Kimbo and EliteXC stink on it. The guy you put all your stock into loses so your company goes to shit...Strikeforce is so irrelevant and such a joke it disgusts me, I cant stand Coker. Werdum earned a big victory, let him celebrate and dont take it away from him
Werdum asked for the rematch
No he didn't he welcomed it but said he wants Overeem.And they should let Werdum and Overeem fight make Fedor fight someone Bigfoot?And then give Fedor a rematch or fight Overeem whoever wins.Its really unprofessional to give him a rematch that quick hes not Strikeforces champ.Greedy Coker makes it look rigged,"the rematch should be PPV".
True he did ask for a rematch, but if Werdum is better than Fedor, he should be able to win again right? lmao I think its funny at this point as to all the contravercy regarding Fedor
Losing only proves what a legend he is. Good quote.
they don't favor fedor..... ever champion deserve a rematch....... and the ufc is starting to lern about that EDGAR vs. PENN 2..... and that should always be the case.... a champion doesn't have to work his way back to his belt
Yeah Coker must be trying to get some quick money in his pocket or something, Fedor should fight Bigfoot (and he has already express intentions in fighting him) and have Werdum fighting for the tittle and then have the winners fighting each other, if he does not do it like that he is favoring Fedor.
BJ Edgar II? ring a bell?
What do you mean "Every champion deserves a rematch"... THAT WAS NOT A CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT! lol
he's a champ in every real MMA fun........ it ended before it started that's why everyone wants to see a rematch
again another idiot post.
If everyone wanted to see a rematch then people wouldnt be complaining about how bad SF is on here. lol and im going to assume that you are a hardcore Fedor **** lover since i saw your profile. Lol just let werdum have his chance at Overeem, and when the time is right they will have there rematch. But you cant let that happen can you since your up in his nuts.
He's a champ to every MMA nutthugg'n fan.
werdum is gunna get K.O by overeem and the fight with fedor won't happen..... thats why i wanna see fedor and werdum fight again
lol again, another idiot post.
are you still not giving Werdum a chance? did Werdum not prove himself when he defeated Fedor in a minute? Are you that gay for Fedor?
LMAO, you're a idiot. Penn vs Edgar was controversial, well at least to most, that is why they are having a rematch. Fedor vs Fabricio wont make sense because there is nothing controversial about it; Fedor lost, plain and simple.
@odeh91 Their was no belt on the line which i don't like Fedor can't claim to be the champ if he dosen't defend his belt everytime he fights, other wise claim he was the former or last reigning wamma champion. Also this match was susposed to determine who (Fedor) would fight Allistar. The fact that it didn't go down the way managment planned it out and them trying to correct it is a joke.
Ummmm Fedor isn't Champion... so why is there need for a rematch?
the ( your mom is idiot bitch........) is for shoninja not you a222g
your mom is idiot bitch........
ya ****heads let me tell you one thing about u,,,,, you don't have pride for your self and you probably never work hard for anything in your life ... so your telling me that after all the hard work the fighters put in to become a champion.. they cant even have a rematch...... I'm not talking about fedor i kno he's not the strikefrorce champion........ this is for all the fighters they deserve a rematch... and just like fedor said the UFC has no respect for there fighter...... penn vs edger controversial???? go fuk yourself
lol again, another dumb post. Yeah controversial to most, and i never said i thought it was controversial. And having pride for myself, what? lol what does that have to do with anything. Are you getting butt hurt because of my statement that fedor shouldnt get a title shot? And to answer your question, yes a champion needs to work back to the top like everyone else. If a champ gets an immediate rematch then thats no fair to the other hard workinbg fighters that deserve it.
oh and to prove my point that you're a idiot, it is your mom is a idiot bitch not your mom is idiot bitch. Lol , i dont even know how you cannot correct yourself with a double post of the same statement.
and ill correct myself while im at it, i messed up working in my previous post
or if you were making the statement out to be like this "your mom is, idiot bitch," you should have include the comma. Either way it proves you're an idiot.
your mom is the idiot.... and your the bitch
to prove to you that your the idiot.. your helping me with my English so i can swear at you,, lol
again another idiot post. I am only correcting you, not helping you. If i were helping you, you would understand how to swear correctly, but obviously you still dont. To prove my point, your post earlier: your mom is the idiot.... and your the bitch, is technically the same as when i said do you mean "your mom is, idiot bitch." So no point in that post.
Listen to this ShoNinja guy....
Wouldnt you love to smack him one. What a tough guy.
LOL, fo sho listen to me.
smack me one lol, and yes through the internet i can be tough as much as i want.
Why?? StrikeForce is not even big enough to have PPV events....
what the hell you complain about you can watch it here
Not the same thing.... The fighters in SF do not even care about the title. Its not the same thing as giving someone an early shot. At least the person who is receiving the early title shot actually wants the title in the UFC. Not to mention the UFC isnt giving someone an early shot because the true contender doesnt even want the fight or care about the title.
I never disputed "fast" title shots, but the situations your mentioning is not really comparable.
The "quick title shots" you mention are no different from Hendo getting a quick shot vs Shields, which you did not hear anyone complain about.
What SF is doing is like if the UFC gave Rampage a rematch against Rashad and the winner of the 2nd fight gets #1 contender. That's just rediculous.
The difference is the UFC have way more options available. If they let Fedor fight Werdum and he wins i see him retiring. Fedor has 1 fight left with Strikeforce if they were smart they would give Werdum a title shot sooner rather than later then let Fedor's last fight be against the winner and that could be on PPV. Their focus should be building up their heavyweight division and making most of the attention on them right now
True, but the difference with that scenario is that they both lost to Silva decisively while Vitor has never fought him so there's more hype to that than a rematch that would likely end the same way.
@SUC
You're right about it not being EXACTLY right. But still help me out with the Vitor thing. Not for arguements sake but just give me some insight on that. And the Fitch thing. How many more does he have to win? I think KenFlo is probably on his way to shot number 3. I believe he has earned his shots but why doesn't Fitch deserve one? And btw I'm not really a Fitch fan and I do like Vitor.
Oh and for the record I agree with everyone that werdum should fight overeem. Fedor needs to wait if he wants the rematch. Just throwing that out there for the people who want to call me a nuthugger haha.
Well, its not relevant to the original topic, but the problem with that in the UFC is the depth of talent. With so many talented guys waiting and deserving a shot, it makes it difficult to dictate who is next and who takes the back seat. With that being said, I think that other factors begin to be weighed and evaluated to help make such decisions. These factors, like them or not, are things such as public relations, popularity, supply and demand, investment in a particular fighter, grudge matches and other drama, etc etc. However, to put it all in one word, it comes down to MONEY.
Basically, these guys have so many talented fighters, many of whom are deserving of a title shot, its no longer only about what makes the most sense stylistically or even who deserves it the most. In the case of the example you presented with Vitor Belfort, obviously Maia was more deserving of the shot based on recent activity inside the octagon. Yet, originally they wanted to go with Belfort. They would have given it to Maia based on who deserved it, but stylistically Belfort posed a bigger threat to Silva then Maia did. So who gets it? Well, Belfort is a bigger name, which translates to more sales, which obviously brings us back to the root of it all, more money. So thats likely how the decision was made.
In the end, we know how that situation turned out anyway. Sonnen also was relevant in that equation, but was not cleared medically, so for the sake of time and length of my comment I left that aspect out.
@SUC
Actually I was talking about how Hendo just knocked out Bisping. I thought he deserved at least talk of a title shot. I know Dan did. Then around the same time Nate knocked out Maia. Remember that? Then both Nate and Dan thought they deserved the next shot at the title which if everything was fair, they were right to think. Out of nowhere Vitor is awarded a shot after one fight back which was a catchweight bout of 195. In the meantime Nate gets outwrestled by Sonnen and Dan leaves for SF. Now.... realistically either Dan or Nate should have got the shot. They earned it. They worked their way back. But.... why didn't they get their shot? You're telling me its money. You're right. I don't know how old you are SUC but I promise you the answer to 95% of anything is money. Even in the screwball world of SF the answer is money. Be for real with me. Who do you think people want to see? Werdum vs Overeem or Fedor vs my left sock? You've been on this site too long SUC. You know the fanatics. SF is going to try and work Fedor in there somehow unless they know it will hurt them. People like you and me know it will be messed up if Fedor fights Werdum again or Overeem but the fanatics well..... they want to see Fedor.
Well it sounds like we are on the same side of this issue anyhow. I feel like Werdum HAS to fight Overeem or they might as well just throw their title out the window because it will be meaningless. I dont see the big deal anyways.... Just because Fedor only has one fight left on his contract everyone should switch shit around for him? Oh well, he should sign a new contract then, even if its just one extra fight. Because the only way this should work is Werdum vs Overeem for the title, ,meanwhile Fedor vs whomever they feel is a contender, then the winner of each match will then fight. Werdum vs Overeem HAS to happen first tho, its the only way to crown a supreme, respected, legitamate HW for their promotion. That is what SF needs to make them the real deal. For once, people will have to double think whether the UFC champ is better than the SF champ.... And I dont mean the little wack jobs that already run around and pretend to know everything.
Werdum beat Fedor so the fight suddenly became relevant - no one is interested in Werdum vs. Overeem ahead of Fedor vs. Werdum 2 or Fedor vs Overeem. Not more complicated than that...
The UFC gave Brock a title fight when he was 1-1 in the UFC.
lol, Brock at least had one more fight than Bret Rodgers did to earn a shot at the title. Although Brock did get the title after beating Randy, he wasn't unified as the champ until he beat Frank Mir.
Really, because it seems to me that NUMEROUS people are interested in it and thats just looking around this one site....
Also, whats the obsession with Brock Lesnar?
Most of those people wont even bother to watch it imo.
No obsession, just a good example of how things work.
Hahaha ok bud, no one will watch the Overeem vs Werdum fight huh? I guess you're right, good thing you caught that or SF may have wasted a bunch of money on that title fight!!
Fedor will be back with a vengeance. I hope it's a rematch.
You hope its a rematch because he lost, Werdum deserves the title shot and Fedor is just another guy who has to earn it like everyone else. He's lucky he's not in the UFC or you'd have to get used to what happened lastnight
shut the fuk up dude you act like your the ufc's new presidents
LOL again, every comment you make is ridiculous. He's just saying if Fedor is in the ufc he'll have to work his way back to the top. Dont go around posting dumb post if you dont fully understand the comment.
Why would you want to see a rematch when the SF champion is out there with no opponent? Werdum should fight Overeem first!
he pretty much said our belts mean nothing and are completely irrelevant we just want to make money off exhibition fights
Amen.
Dude this is probably the best thing to happen to StrikeForce, more so than a fight with Alistair, the fans are now curious about who will win and is a true champ... Way to go for a rematch.........
a rematch is the best decision because fedor deseve a rematch he never lost before and sticeforce suppose to give him a chance to come back
naw!!! he shouldnt get a rematch for that reason. He did lose after impossing his will on his opponents for so long so he should not be tossed right back in the mix simply bc hes strikeforces poster boy. He should have to go down and fight other guys and work his way up or he can retire. a shitty ultimatum but i think its the best.
Wow...you're dumb
only put it on pay per view if you have a good card. Just Fedor vs Werdum 2 will not do it for me. Maybe put in Diaz and Mayhem or hendo in there too
I don't want to see a rematch, I dislike immediate rematches unless there is a controversial decision, but in this case it was a stoppage, I think Werdum should fight Overeem and Fedor should fight Bigfoot Silva or Rogers or Arlovski
ye thats what i said. if he gets an immediate rematch itll seem like theyr just tryin to give him a win before he eventually retires. But i mean who wouldnt want to see him fight other fighters and work his way back up????
He lost once before.
I agree with all comments regarding upcoming top fights but I understand strikeforce position : without fedor or with a undermined fedor the whole company is going down. They have to pump up their one and only asset.
if this guy do a werdum /fedor rematch, strikeforce is gonna tank, people want to see new blood, werdum won, he fights overeem, thats it!
I tend to agree. Werdum vs overeem, fedor vs big foot. Fedor wins he should fight the winner of werdum vs overeem. If fedor loses he probably should retire. He's next fight will demonstrate if he still has the heart to fight or not. Best scenerio werdum and fedor win, setting up a very good ppv as a rematch. That's two fights, fedor said he's got one more fight left with SF, so let's hope he will give his fans an extra fight.
scott coker should sign with the UFC
Alistair should fight Werdum and fedor should fight bigfoot silva. Thats the only way it makes sence. Even though i am a huge fedor fan. He is just a fighter like everybody else. Why should he get a rematch when Overreem is waiting?!
Exactly Overrem is an exciting heavy wieght and thier champ they should be investing in him right now and leave Fedor and M1 to it. Fedor loss should give Strikeforce more power in negotiation but after Cocker's comments i don't think that's the case. What a shame
Why are they asking Scott Coker anyway? Its like he said, "A lot of it is going to depend on what M-1 wants to do. They will have "some" say." Yea SOME say.....
SF is on a rapid decline. Who in God's name would want to shell out hard earned money to watch Fedor be submitted again?
...and so much for what Werdum wanted, a shot at Overeem.
The asshats at Strikeforce have taken a heavy weight division with some decent fighters and turned it into a ****ing circus. Werdum used his best skills to win fair and square. I think Fedor would probably win a rematch - he would just avoid Werdum's guard. But no. Werdum does not deserve to have to fight Fedor again after beating him in impressive fashion. He deserves the title shot. As for Fedor; I think he should have to beat someone else and then get the title shot, whether it be Overeem or Werdum.
Can't wait to see it, i hope it will be in near future, Fedor is still the better fighter despite the loss, i can't believe that some people actually consider Lesnar as nr.1 now...
"Was" you meen. It like sayiong the cowboys are the best football team because of their history. Case in point, your only as good as your last fight/season/game.
I tell you wath gona hapened next Werdum will lose from Overeem and Fedor will fight Overeem and if Fedor wins he will have his remach.Werdum was saying the remach will be in Rusia
I think Fedor is geting old look at Big Nog same age with Fedor and alwredy finished.Ewen the best Wrestler all time Rusian Aleksander Karelin never lost in his life with 25 gold medals 3 of them Olympic gold kame back to wrestle again 33 year old and lost
Weak excuse. Carwin is older, Lesnar is just a year younger. Fedor has taken practically no damage over his career. He looks old now because he's facing better competition. Same with Nog. Same with Mirco. etc.
Fedor should fight Werdum again or Overeem. SF would make more money. People like to see big come backs. Fedor is even hotter item now after his loss, so SF should take an advantage of the situation. Nobody wants to see Overeem vs Werdum.
Agreed. It makes no sense showing a fight no one really wants to see. The UFC does the same thing with their draws.
Well, that makes sense. I want to see Fedor come back from defeat.
In a long run Werdum vs Overeem makes more sense. But Werdum vs Fedor 2 will make a lot of money right now. That fight would really only benefit Fedor, if he loses he can retire if he wins he can retire avenging his loss.
People love to see heroes fall, but they also love them come back and saving the world. Look at Couture he's got some of the crazies victories over people he should not have beaten, and people love the guy. If Fedor comes back strong it will only benefit.
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TO ALL THE UFC NUTZ HUGGER....IN TIHS SPORT, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!
Do you see anyone one else have 28 win streak?
Win or Lose, NO ONE IN MMA came close to this streak. Yes, some are tough oppenent, and some are crappy oppenent, but, over all, if you can't do that, then shut the FCUK UP!
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There are many more impressive career records. Less wins, against vastly superior competition.
There are people who fight good competition all the time but don't beat them all. Which fighters are you referring to?
Is it just me or we see a pattern here...? First they get Hendo to beat Shields, I mean, according to everyone here on SF it was a done deal, no one spoke of the actual champion. Than they get a a striker/brawler to face Cung Lee also almost only promoting the Vietnamese fighter. Same result. Now were seeing the same with Fedor...
Dont get me wrong, I want Strikeforce to exist, as a MMA fan the more organizations, the more fights I can watch, but this kind of promotions are ridiculous! Did you hear the announcer and commentators on that fight!? The greatest fighter of all time, yada yada yada - very disrespectful for his opponent. The CEO of SF doesnt know **** about MMA and fighting, hes just promoting what he thinks will get more audiences...
As for a rematch: who would want to see that...? A grappler against a striker, whats the fun in that? It wasnt a good match-up in the first place! Put Fedor against a good Striker like Overeem, that fight should had happened in the first place and its a much more interesting fight!
Oh, and I dont think Fedor is the best and it never was (IMHO ofc), but he will never loose to Werdum again, Fedor his the better fighter and just maybe a silly mistake, probably because all of the hype and the fact he thought he was unbeatable. A rematch only means Fedor will win (again IMO). I personally would like him to comeback and fight a good striker, win (if he could ofc) and go up the ladder to fight the real top contenders. Altough I still defend he would be best "served" if he dropped down to 205, the Heavyweight division is getting to "big" for his size...
Lets see if he doesnt retire after his contract ends (he has 1 more fight with the Strikeforce) and decides to join the UFC or at least do some fights there...
If SF makes that rematch, then SF is in a gamble on whether it will be broken or not. If Fedor loses to Werdum one more time, then Fedor is basicly over, and their biggest money maker is done for. In a sensible way SF really should give fedor a match against big foot to hype it further ( milk Fedor ). On the other hand if Fedor wins then he is reborn again, which is great for SF.
Why Fedor/Werdum 2 on PPV? This is the kind of SF antics that do not make any sense, and further their reputation as a non-legit promotion.
i would like to see remate..
this is why strikeforce is an underdog...scott coker doesn't know what the fans really want...LOL