Scott Coker wants Fedor vs Overeem, winner to fight Werdum

THIS MAKES NO SENSE!!!! so cokers gonna give another guy a title shot AFTER A LOSS and then the winner fights werdum, as if werdum is the champ?!....why doesnt werdum just fight overeem and fedor can have the winner (ie the next title shot) like any other sensible organisation would do?....scott coker upsets me sometimes haha

yeah he really is making that HW title look pointless

one problem though.. everyone wants to see overeem vs fedor.. so what if werdum beats overeem?? then hed have to fight werdum again.. as much as it doesnt make 'sense'.. it does.. we've seen werdum vs fedor already, and he has 1 fight left on his contract.. so why not make it a big one, so if fedor wins, he will most likely continue to defend the title.. i mean, in the end , a belt is just that, a belt.. i truly rather see fedor vs overeem than werdum, just as i did initially when they announced it wasnt overeem i was pissed..

Exactly! Who cares about Werdum vs Overeem fight or Fedor vs Werdum II. It should be a good fight. Fedor has a lot of motivation. If we demolishes Overeem, Werdum would be even more interesting.

Brock got the title shot before Frank Mir with a 2-1 record...

Who cares! I want to see the fight!

What title!?!?! It's a JOKE! How many legitimate HW's are there in Strikeforce?



Fedor. Allistar, Werdum??? Lashley, Rogers???



That is a very WEAK division.

Antonio Silva, Andrei Arlovski... "Weak" is the wrong word for it - it's just not as strong as the UFC HW.



Personally I don't care about the belt in any org. All I want is good fights with good fighters. And it's not as if the UFC isn't doing it...

There are just not enough fights to make this an interesting division. Everybody waits and waits... They do not have the money that the UFC has and M-1 has been an extreme dissapointment co-promoting! Showtime SUCKS!

I'm sick of everyone and their brother throwing arlovski and silva in there. Arlovski hasn't been good since the ufc with that glass chin of his. To say he's good when it takes a very little tap to send that guy to the canvas is ajoke, and silva didn't fight anyone good in elite, and outside of fedor "the great" there's really nobody in strikeforce to fight. Oh, and overeem.....So i would say in a nutshell they have two "good" fighters and one is famous for having a winning streak over nobodies and people that couldn't hack it in the ufc anymore. That's a very weak division

It's not much different from where the UFC was a few years ago. Only 3 years ago Randy fought Sylvia for the title and won...



Cain Velasquez was fighting in Bodog, Brock was doing whatever the ****, Carwin fought in Ring of Fire, Nog hadn't fought his first UFC fight, Mir was fresh off a humiliating KO by Vera and JDS was fighting MDL... See where I'm going with this? SF has come a long, long way in a very short time and they're far better than the '07 UFC HW.

The UFC had just bought out all the pride starts. The UFC was the only thing keeping MMA alive. Strikeforce is not keeping MMA alive. It's not even drawing more fans. Fedor didn't get HUGE until he fought people like arlovski who came from the UFC with their own following and fans. If anything the UFC is responsible a decent amount of credit for the "success" of strikeforce

Coker is an idiot , i cant believe he has made Strikeforce get where it is

right now! i mean the guy looks like a child molester and makes the most weird desicions on fights , specially on title fights

I gotta be honest i'm disappointed with this article Daniel Cassidy. I would advise people to listen to the full interview on sherdog. you failed to mention that there no where near making a final decision and that comment you've quoted is 1 of many scenarios he mentioned. Scott Cocker quote from the interview ''M1 want a Werdum rematch as soon as possible''. I enjoyed the interview because they grilled him for like half an hour and he answered all questions. Cocker also said that negotiations would be interesting because Strikeforce have the power now. Like i said i'd advise people to listen to the interview.

i took the direct quote, he said what i had quoted. its not like afterwards he added "of course im joking". its in context and exactly what he said

fair enough but you know full well that quote was 1 of many ideas he mentioned and you quoted the worst idea he brought up.. I brought it up because i heard the interview then saw your article and was surprised you chose this quote alone because after listening to ****er it seems to me they ain't got a clue what their gonna do. and looking at the comments on here your article has seemed to bring out the Strikeforce haters.

i like Strikeforce, i want them to do well, i honestly do, but i think Scott Coker is making the belts look pointless.

as for my article, this is news. its how it works,



with all due respect

I now what you mean. Fedor's only having 1 fight left is what is causing the problems imo, if he had more fights left i'm sure Werdum would be fighting Overeem and Fedor would be fighting big foot Silva.

lol strikeforce doesnt no how to do business, how can a guy who just lost get a title shot and the winner of that fights Werdum, its so stupid, only reason they are doing this is becauseFedor only has one fight left in his contract and if he becomes champ he will most likely resign with Strikeforce but still the match up is stupid

I fixed your post:



lol UFC doesnt know how to do business, how can a guy who just lost get a title shot and the winner of that fights Mir, its so stupid, only reason they are doing this is because Brock came from WWE and has lots of $$ to bring in if he becomes champ but still the match up is stupid

lol

I agree that Lesnar got a shot too early but he didnt lose and get a shot he actually beat Heath after losing to Mir to get a title shot against Couture and then the reason the winner of that fought Mir is because Mir was the interm-heavyweight champ so they needed to unify the titles

Very good point.

Yes, because beating Heath Herring as your only win in the UFC definately means you need a title shot. Seriously?



So if Toney loses to Couture, then he beats Heath Herring (or whoever the last stop is on the way out the door), he gets a title shot? Same situation.

Mir had his title shot and lost to Brock, beat Congo and got an interim title shot with Shane. Why? I think, Cain or Dos Santos should have fought Shane. Whatever SF does, the UFC does it 100 times more.

I already said I agree with u that Lesnar got a shot too soon but all i'm saying is that he didn't get a shot after a loss like Rogers n maybe Fedor

it might be cause of all the rumors bout fedors retirement. i guess fedor vs overeem would bring more many than fedor vs werdum, but i think thats debatable conisidering werdum wants to do it in russia, idk makes you wonder if fedor will really retire

Hmmm.... I do like Fedor vs Overeem better than a rematch with Werdum, that fight would be more explosive in my opinion.

Bad bad business decision by Coker, but At least Overeem will get his chance to smash Fedor's face.

Hahahaha thats just sad ... hahahaha

**** strikeforce hope thy go down soon ... sinds this is just bullshit ..

How the **** can you give somebody that has just lost a ****ing tittle shot .. second time he is doing this cant stand this !

WTF KIND OF BS IS THIS....Strikefarce

wtf.

Worst organisation ever -disgrace to MMA! - UFC!!!!!!!

hahhaha. thats all i got to say

Hmmmm..... I would say they are on borrowed time at this point.

StrikeForce does pretty much EVERYTHING backwards. Poor Verdum..

Ya know, I keep reading these comments about people complaining about title shots, but at the same time, these people are also saying that the Strikeforce title is null. So this brought me to wonder...who cares about who fights for the title? Why do people pretend to care? Why don't we just appreciate this promotion for what it is: an opportunity to see some interesting match-ups outside of the UFC. I think we should just focus on seeing the most intriguing matchups, and at this point, they have a few possibilities. Overeem vs. Fedor is what everyone wanted 2 weeks ago. I still want to see that. A rematch is also interesting between Fedor and Werdum. The fight that would make sense if this were the UFC would be Werdum vs. Overeem and Fedor vs. Silva, but considering this 'may' be the last time Fedor fights (who knows) then they should put him in the best matchup they can.

Yea I would like to see that fight as well, AFTER Werdum gets his title shot... Instead, they would rather market everything around Fedor. They figure Fedor vs Overeem is a more marketable fight and since it may be Fedor's last, they want to milk it for what its worth.

I just want to see Overeem vs Fedor. It might be the last Fedor's fight. Neither Werdum nor Overeem is interested in fighting each other, they both want Fedor. Another card could be interesting is Silva vs Rogers, or Arlovski vs Rogers, Werdum vs Rogers.

I agree with above.....strickforce is basically saying they know there nothing more then a gimmick...so why should we care?



If this was done in the ufc then it would be awkward....but strickforce has always been so random anyways.

Lesnar 2-1 for the title ahead of Mir and everyone else in the division?

Yep, its stupid regardless of what organization does it. Its supposed to be a sport, not just for entertainment purposes. Not only are they making the title look like nothing more than a glorified belt buckle, but they are taking away the competitive edge all together. It basically says that each of their matches mean nothing more than a win or loss and will not directly take them anywhere in the promotion. I mean yea, its nice to see fights, but anyone he cannot see whats wrong here needs to do a little critical thinking.

couldnt agree more

Isn't "nothing more than a win or a loss" what MMA is about though? If it was all championship a lot of interesting fights and fighters would be pretty much irrelevant - like Randy vs. Coleman or Tito vs. Chuck or Wanderlei vs. Sexyama or Anderson vs. Forrest, to name a few.



Belts are a huge plus in terms of instant hype for the casual fan, but it's not the end all of all things MMA.

"Yep, its stupid regardless of what organization does it. Its supposed to be a sport, not just for entertainment purposes"

Then why does Dana charge PPV for non-title events? THAT'S the biggest scam ever and has nothing to do with the sport, only greedy beeches pockets.

Why would anyone hate on a org or a potentially really good and interesting fight?? Brainwashed much Dana nuthuggers?

C'mon bro...even I want to see Fedor vs. Overeem, but it is just wrong! Werdum beat Fedor and earned his shot at being the champ.

Truthfully, if Fedor fights Werdum again and wins this time, he would retire off into the sunset.



If he loses to Overeem, he will most likely retire, but if he wins, he will be more likely to stick around to fight Werdum again before he retires.



I would personally like to see him against Overeem then Werdum and retire as the best that ever was in the sport.



Make Dana QQ some more - Ultimate Farce Club

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The only way any of this would make sense is if Coker had made Fedor V Rogers a title fight and stripped Overeem of his title for not defending it. Now he is making match ups as if this had been done even though it wasn't. Please Scott, make Overeem V Werdum or Werdum V Fedor II. Do not do Overeem V Fedor.

Guys this is the reality... i mean who gives a damn about strikeforce? They have only 3 top fighters in their HW division. I think the fans wanna see any of this matchups happen. So why don't you just chill... I personaly don't give a f* which fights happens. I know its going to be good, and thats about it.

Overeerm and Werdum should both leave Strikeforce. It's a joke... They're winning their fights, they deserve to move up in competition. Overweem deserved the shot at Fedor, not Werdum. Werdum deserves this shot for the belt, not Fedor. That's twice now that the #1 contender got passed over so that the losing fighter could advance. People who defend this stuff, and the co-promotion that is a major cause of this stuff, are fools.



So glad the UFC is more professional. Imagine if Shane KO'd Mir, and they gave Mir the title shot?

wow what a dumb shit ! werdum vs overeem for the belt is the only

obvious choice !

Who cares,they didn't care much about title anyway,let Fedor vs Overeem

and if Fedor loses again hes should get retire,if hes win and rematch Fedor vs Werdum to see who really deserves it a title shot for HW belt.imo

We all want to see intriguing matchups for sure, but I mean I think they should also be legitimate. This is a sport and these are professional athletes. Personally, I'm a fan of MMA because I like watching these guys (and girls) compete to see who's the BEST in the world. That's why I think titles are important (the idea of them, at least). Yeah we all know the whole Lesnar bit - getting a title shot after a whopping one fight win streak. But that doesn't even compare to the sham that Strikeforce will become if they give Fedor a title shot after a loss. People say, "who cares? belts are just belts and don't mean anything anyway". But that argument has faulty logic, as the reason why that argument can even be made in the first place is BECAUSE OF SHIT LIKE THIS! The belts mean nothing if it takes nothing to get a shot at it. What if the Vikings went to the superbowl last year after losing to the Saints for the NFC championship? Who the hell would stand for that shit? NO ONE! Essentially every sport has a prize at the end of the road - the World Cup, Stanley Cup, World Series, Grand Prix, Superbowl, etc. so of course it makes sense to have titles in MMA. But promotions need to use some logic in matchups because this whole thing makes me sick.

good for them! keep the interest up boys

Like others have said, this makes NO sense at all. ..and what's with Coker's comment that the winner of fedor vs Overeem GETS to fight Werdum? Shouldn't it be those who are not champion GET to fight the champoion aka Overeem?



Bizarre logic but i'm sure there are more behind the scenes reasons to why Coker and Showtime are going this route.





...on a side note, i'm not to sure Fedor or should I say Feinkelstein will allow that fight to happen anyway. I'm sure if Fedor does decide to fight again, they would have wanted it with a much less worrisome Werdum.

So by Coker doing this he would basically be letting media and fans to believe that Werdums WAMMA championship is more relative than the organizations own SF HW belt? Not sure if that would would be good for buisiness, sure doesnt give the impression that they even hold their own belts with any high regard if they made that move?. So how are fans to believe in the credibility of the belts in SF? Coker knows he only has fedor one more fight so he has to do what going to make him the most money while he has fedor, Overeem will probably grow tired of the lack of competition and leave SF if this keeps up

THIS IS RETARDED!!! Werdum is the one that should get the title shot >:O

Fedor vs Batista for his last contracted fight.

jk hehe that would further make Strikeforce matchmaking look like a joke.

I think this is a great idea by Coker. From a business standpoint let's look at it. If Fedor wins he gets his Fedor v. Werdum II fight. If Overeem wins then you get Overeem v. Werdum. If Overeem beats Fedor then Fedor doesn't deserve the shot to fight Werdum. Look I get on here and everyone says he doesn't fight the best. Well Overeem is the champ and if the fight goes on then he is fighting one of the best in Strikeforce, I mean Overeem is the champ right? So I think this would be a great option for SF.



If fighting Werdum next is the best option then so be it. Let's face even Dana knows Brock is the UFC. Even though Fedor lost he is still SF.