Overeem ducking Fedor

Overreem has been saying for the past 4 months that he wants to compete in the K1 Grand Prix, I wouldnt change my plans either, if Fedor/M1 finally decides they want this fight, just a day before this announcement M1 put out a wish list that had nonthing to do with Overreem. K1 is a lock and a solid pay day, Fedor/M1 could change there minds in the near future after Overreem pulls out of K1 then he would be screwed.

F*ck all the hear say... I just want to see this fight! Truly the top of the HWD in the world!

So do you agree with me Golden Boy is not much better then M-1?

Overeem said he would cancel the fight in k1 back when Werdum won, it has been two months and now Fedor wants to fight Overeem while he's already training to fight in K1. Besides in Overeem's eyes, he shouldn't fight the loser of a fight, that's just plain ridiculous. We don't hear the UFC saying for example; the loser of Nelson vs Dos santos gets a shot at the title.

But ROgers got a fight against Overeem instead of Werdum???

Two wrongs don't make a right.

"Because when I fight Fedor, I'm sure it's going to be a title fight, and I already fought Brett (Rogers when) he came off a loss. I don't want to keep doing that. Werdum was a legitimate winner from the fight (with Emelianenko). He's the No. 2 of Strikeforce. So I believe I should fight Werdum. If he's still injured, then I'll fight Fedor because he's still a worthy opponent, and I've challenged him for a year."

Well, I think we are not getting the whole story from any of the parts, I am a huge Fedor fight but It seems to me hipocrate that they are asking an olimpyc drug test to Reem but yet they are willing to fight Barnett who is known for his roids use, and in the other hand it is easy to call out someone when they are not availble and Overeem was calling out Fedor when he was out for his hand, and then the winner of Werdum and Fedor would have face Reem, but Werdum is out of the picture right now but Fedor was not hurt at all in that fight so he could have that fight right away but took his management 2 months to do it and know Overeem just won´t do it because he is goign to the K-1 GP, I am like what tha F...? If I were Reem I would take the fight but would not cancel nothing until it is a close deal, and I would not take the olimpyc drug test just because I wouldn´t go a extra mile for my oponent, did I make any sense?

How is it Fedor's fault that HE is refusing a drug-test? If he declines a drug-test, he is also refusing a fight. He is ducking Fedor, not the other way around. Alistair is using a drug-test denial as an excuse to not fight him. What is the problem? Go take a drug-test. Problem solved.



Barnett was busted for drug-abuse last time he and Fedor were about to fight. He will be tested this time around as well. Alistair refuses because either, 1. he's cheating and he knows it, or 2. he doesn't want to fight. Either way he's ducking him. That's the truth.

Fedor management is asking for a different kind of drug test, Alistair said that he would do the regular test but why would he do something different just because Fedor management wants him to?

The regular test is a piss-test. It does no good. He declines a test, he declines the rules, he declines the fight. What's the problem? If he wants to fight, he'll take the fight. What is he three years old? Not taking a drug-test over principles? Because that must be it. In a sport where drug-use flourishes, he declines to take one because he doesn't want to exceed what others are doing? He's guilty as hell. That's why he's declining.



Do you think Powell would agree to running against a juiced up Gay? No.

interesting isn't it? People will go well know if I was Powell I wouldn't run against Gay either. Amazing Dana has made alot of people drink the Fedor hate Kool-Aid.

The juice seems like such a sensitive issue. To me its obvious Overeem has used it. I would bet a years salary on it. It's really hard to be a heavyweight and be so cut up like that. Most people who get that big and aren't taking roids or some performance enhancing drug look like Frank Mir or the current Brock Lesnar. The people that have worked out all their life can feel me on that. And if you ever been cool with people that juiced before, you would know that I might be right. Now having said all that, obviously I have no hard evidence that Overeem is a juicer but as a grown adult with things that I have experienced, I would bet the house that he has.

You are not getting it I am Fedor fan I wants this fight to happen, but it is no Overeem fault that they ask for this fight after he was already involved in the K-1 tournament, and why would he do a olimpyc drug test when tehy are the ones calling him out first of all, second why would you go further than regulations just to please M-1 global management, I would said F... that, if the regular test does not do it for you it is your own damn problem, I am playing by the rules so screw you...there is something going on and you just do not want to see it, ask anyone I have been on Fedor´s side forever but this is too much...

Look. You make it sound so grand by calling it an olympic drug-test. It's simply a blood-test, and sadly that's what is required. It is exactly what got Josh Barnett banned when they were fighting in 2008.



Alistair says he'll fight if he doesn't have to take a blood-test, and so it's not really the K-1 tournament, either. He's juiced up and everybody knows.



Whether Fedor calls up Alistair, or Alistair calls up Fedor. Doesn't matter. They're both doing tests. Alistair would have to blood-test himself if it was he who challenged Fedor. There really is no problem here. None. Only one guy refusing to do a blood-test, and that's that. Fight won't happen because of that. There are no excuses for that.

I agree about not getting the story from either. That is why I think Golden Boy is a little better then M-1, but not by much.

Overreem has been calling Fedor out for months, we've EVEN seen it on TV, therefore it's more like the other way around or AT LEAST Fedor's management people have been ducking him. Is it true that Josh Barnett has never been caught for doing ROIDS before? right (sarcasm) Maybe that's why Fedor's people wanted him to fight Barnett so badly.

You got that all wrong. Fedor never ducked Alistair. I would sum it up to you, but I'm tired of explaining the order of chronology to it all. You saying it only means you haven't paid attention when you should have.

To be honest we are all in the dark it seems about who's ducking who. How do we know in reality whos ducking. I have a feeling Fedor is a more humble and honest fighter but I can't say it for sure. It seemed Fedor was ducking for a while and now it seems overeem is either not interested anymore because he wanted the fedor defeat at his hands rather than werdum or he also is ducking. I just wish the managers and promoters would stay out of the fight picking talk and let the fighters speak for themselves so at least we can compare horses mouths to horses mouths.

So why does Overeem not want to cancel K-1 Tourney? But will cancel it for Werdum who is injured?? hmmmm???? I think both promotions suck let the fighters decide.

He would have canceled K-1 a couple months ago if Werdum could have fought, I believe. But at this point he is already deep into K-1 preparation (that isn't just physical prep, it is mental, technical, etc.). At this point I don't think he would cancel K-1 participation for Werdum nor Fedor.

About Roids. Overeem is on them. Why would you decline a drug test? If you are good. It shouldn't matter.

Because he doesn't intend on taking the fight!!

Why would you please your opponent in something like that, man he is goign to get tested just not the way M-1 wants it, it is kind of the same deal betwen Pac-man vs Mayweather...

Also why do you think he was in Japan for 2yrs and not in Strikeforce. Not hard to get them out of your system before a fight.

He was in Japan for 2 years because Strikeforce had no one for him to fight!

But Rogers got a fight against Overeem instead of Werdum?

And people still complain about the UFC and Dana White business methods... Fighters deciding who and when they are fighting is just ridiculous, with this kind of management SF isnt going nowhere...

Oh, and I can see all the Fedor fans excited with this news, it seems a vindication for when he was accused of ducking the fight. The truth is that both dont care shit about Strikrfoce or the belt, they have theire own agenda, making it difficult to schedule fights. Both M-1 and Golden want to milk theire "cows", they dont see the big picture nor are they interested in promoting the sport, they just view things in a business perspective, making the most money they can...

All of this is sad... Overeem is a real fighter, thats the problem. If half of the people who weighed in on this subject were informed, there wouldn't be so much nonsense. Overeem has been saying for a loooong time he intended to fight in the K-1 Grand Prix. He reaffirmed this last month on the MMA Hour and has been saying it since. This was just a last minute ploy by M-1 and yes even Fedor, the man who is in charge, to save face. Now they can say that Fedor is not ducking Overeem. Alistair takes K-1 very seriously and is already training for the event. I applaud him for not playing their games... The same games that are destroying Strikeforce's credibility. "When the Emperor calls you answer." That is hilarious to me... Any unbiased person has to acknowledge that the Reem's stock is higher at moment!! M-1/Fedor are struggling to remain relevant.

Oh and I would like to add something.... Its not that I feel the Fedor is irrelevant, its just thats how the business is. As it continues to grow, the newer fans do not know as much about him. So the truth is he is struggling to remain relevant. Sad but true.

i understand where overeems coming from. But, he can do K-1 anytime he wants in the future,why pass up the biggest fight of his life,not to mention the boat load of cash he would make. Plus the fans are dying for it.

I understand that perspective fully. I would like to see it as much as the next guy. With that said, I understand his decision as a fighter.

Overeem without Steroids would suck. Can he beat Brock with steroids absolutely. Why would anyone refuse a drug test? Only if you are on steroids, simply put.

I know because I have worked an NCAA tournament in Nashville. Random basketball players have to take the drug test. It is funny when you see them bitchin all the way down the hallway. Wonder why? Could it be they have been chiefing.

BTW, University of Cinicinnati basketball team was the worst.

I am really pissed at M1- Global. More and more russian fans are getting pissed at M1 management. M1 tried to get a better deal, but it seems that it is not working. Vadim Finkilstein wanted the rematch with Werdum claiming that the fans wanted to see it, but all the pools were telling him otherwise. So, they should have made the statement to fight Overeem a month earlier.

Right now, neither Overeem nor Werdum wants to fight Fedor. Overeem knows that Fedor is coming out of the loss and he is just hungry. Overeem wants to stay away for now until 2011 and by that time Werdum comes back and it would be a rematch. In another year, Fedor would be older and slower, so Overeem would have a better chance to beat him.

Werdum knows that Fedor is not going to give him another chance, so the longer he is out the better, since he claimed that after the Fedor's fight, he received contracts from many firms. It will be all gone after the rematch, so he enjoys it while it lasts. In M1 situation, Overeem is the only option right now for Fedor to stay relevant and push for another good contract.

I would say you may be right but why would he decide so late to fight Overeem. He could at least take one less marketable fight before a shot in my opinion. For all we know this could be a strategy to strangle M-1 and get rid of some competition by giving Fedor no real options other than to bow to SF or UFC. They could really screw over M-1 if you think about it.

God knows what Finkilstein was thinking. He should have said that right after he learned that Werdum is out. In his recent interview, he did not even mentioned Overeem. The problem is that Fedor really trusts his management because he is a big part of this M1 management, Fedor is not just a fighter, he is owns part of M1.

I agree. I can't stand M-1 either, but I love Fedor. I wish he could get away with them, but I know M-1 would kill Fedor for leaving. (Literally).



I just read an Article about Bigfoot Silva blasing Fedor and Alistar Overeem. See I am not the only one blasting both. He didn't take sides either. He was pissed because they are declining fights. He thinks it is disrepectful to the fans that both are selecting their fights.

I read the article too about Bigfoot getting pissed at Fedor and Overeem. With all do respect to Antonio Silva, he does not have enough credit and history to have this privilege to select his opponent. He will fight whoever.

I don't think anyone knows what is REALLY going on here. The stories are obviously embellished on both sides a little bit. That's how it always is. It's life guys. People are just going to support one over the other based on who they like or dislike. Easy. Truth is, no one really knows! No one!

I don't think anyone knows what is REALLY going on here. The stories are obviously embellished on both sides a little bit. That's how it always is. It's life guys. People are just going to support one over the other based on who they like or dislike. Easy. Truth is, no one really knows! No one!

Simple solution to all this:



Fedor vs Silva is scheduled before the end of the year. Overeem participates in K-1. Werdum heals. By the time all the aforementioned things are finished, we have winner of Silva vs Fedor fighting the winner of Werdum vs Overeem.

That makes sense in terms of how a functional promotion would handle the situation : )

But we all know how SF does things lol

The Ufc gave Randy Couture 5+ title shots coming off a loss. Brock went straight from the WWE with his huge fan-base to get an insta-title shot. That's not a SF-specific trait, my friend. The UFC is way worse.

For the record, Brock didn't get an immediate title shot, it was his 3rd fight in the UFC. But, I understand your point.

The UFC isn't way worse but they don't always do things right.

i just take it like this Fedor is a big name and widely considered the best of all time a legend , and also famous for his f......d up managment and hard to get a fight against so if Oveereem or any other fighter get a chance to fight Fedor they should take it cause they may never get that chance again cause of the messed up management

I just read where Overeem is going to fight Alexsander Emelianenko. What the Hell?