If overeem drug tests comes out clean after brett fight, then yeah. Overeem definitely going to man handle fedor
Haters gonna hate...
if the match would happen
Huggers gonna hug
Even tho Overeem really impressed me today, I would still have to go with Fedor, how can you go against a guy who dominated grapplers on the ground like Nog and Coleman and Ko'd knockout artists on their feet like Rogers and Arlovski
No fighter is invincible. Fedor already showed some holes in his game against both Arlovsky and the Grim. The overeem we watched last night has the potential to defeat Fedor...He's bigger, stronger, very self-confident, and technically very sound...I don't think Fedor will be as easily bullied as Brett, but the likelihood of him losing is very high...:)
Overeem getting past one drugtests doesnt prove anything. Anyone that knows ANYTHING about steroids and HGH knows that they are taken in cycles and it doesnt show up in piss or even blood tests if timed right.
In any case, overeem is a very good fighter, and if he can maintain this size, yeah, he should have a fair chance against fedor.
But i would like to see him on random drugtesting for about six months, or even stay in america for that long. But if he stays in amsterdam, we will never know.
But lets not forget, he used to be knocked out left and right, and now he weighs 40 pounds more, and seems like and unstoppable tank.
Overeem did a great job shuting bretts big mouth! "so Rogers, why you didn't let them fly again, scared??" tha't been said, it's not because Overeem took 1 round to finish rogers and Fedor 2 rounds that Overeem is better, the maths don't work like that in mma. Rogers finished arlovski in a flash but still got knocked out by Fedor who, some would say, had trouble with arlovski.
Fedor will get Overeem.
Fedor hasn't been dominating his opponents like GSP or Anderson Silva. This probably has to do w/ his smaller size...There's no doubt, however, that he finish fighters in a split second...Overeem vs Fedor is a dream match-up. I believe it will happen sometime in the near future, provided that Fedor beats Werdum (which is more than likely)...
Yea...coleman is/was sooo amazing..totally in the same league as nog. Rogers was probably overrated and hadn't really fought anyone, unless you count arlovski who there isn't really any hype about beating either... wow
After seeing what The Reem did to Rogers, a man who gave Fedor quite a bit of trouble, there is going to be a lot of questions about Fedors chances in this fight.
I give Reem a lot more credit and chance to beat Fedor then I did before but to bet against Fedor is crazy. I think it was quite obvious that Rogers hasn't done 10min of training from his back and was arrogant enough to think it couldn't happen to him. I think this humiliation will be good for Rogers, he needs to move to a new camp and start training much harder and be willing to accept that he needs to get well rounded. I would like to see Rogers take 2 years sabbatical and move to one of the top gyms.
But Fedor won't be a fish out of water if it hits the ground and he is a better striker then Rogers, after all Fedor is the world champion for a reason.
Actually, The Reem ended the fight in the stand-up...The GnP on the ground was just to seal the deal...That's what he said in his PF interview...
i would want overeem to win but to be honest i dont know who would win. i would normally go with fedor but overeem did way better against rogers
Overoid is gong to kick Fedors ass. Roids only stay in your system for four to six months. Overoid will pass the drug test.
If thats true he probably isn´t on roids, he seems just as big, atleast what i´ve seen from him.
Don't forget it took Fedor one puch to put Rogers down and Overeem landed 15-30 to finish the fight
its another thing when standing on your feet then when your on the ground.
energy from punches are more easily absorbed when your body is on the ground.
tell that to Machida
But it only took overeem less than 1 round and rogers did not afflict any damage on overeem
Fedor's fans please save that Overoid thing for another time...If Overeem fights Fedor the way he fought tonight, I give him a good chance against Fedor.
In this fight Bret did the crap talking.In Fedor fight Overeem is talking a alot and he wil be the one kissing the flor
I think its obvious. Rogers looked like nothing but a fan pulled from the stands in there with Overeem. And Mokoko it only took one punch from Fedor? Fedor only threw one punch that entire fight huh? Not to mention Overeem didnt even break a sweat, let alone BREAK A NOSE!!
Where did you read he broke his nose? He opened up an old cut that's been bleeding more times than your moma's had sex for cash.
his nose wasnt broken, it was an old cut from training with his brother
you can see that before the fight ( if you can find it in good quality) that he has a fresh scar
How lame was that? I heard it from Strikeforce.
it was scar tissue that reopened.
That one punch is showing who got the power.Rogers finished Arlovski in 26 seconds took him 6 or 7 punches to finish the fight and took Fedor one did the job.Took Overeem much moire than 6 punches think that way
Your entire logic sucks bro. It was GnP leading to a TKO.... I wont argue with you anymore tho its embarrassing.
What Mokoko means is that Fedor and Rogers both fought Arlovski, while Rogers caught Arlovski several times in 26 seconds, the whoping right hand of Fedor did the job. so he is saying that took more shots of Rogers to get to where Fedor left Arlovski with just one.
I said nothing about UFC ....And unsurprisingly u have no idea what your talking about as he was saying that Fedor finished ROGERS with one punch and Overeem had to hit him several times. Thats the conversation we were having from an earlier post. Then he switched focus to Arlovski. Which really made no sense, but thats Mokoko for ya. As far as you where did the UFC come into this? I guess you thought it would be a funny joke huh? Just childish as usual.
Yeah I know you were not saying anything about the UFC, I´m messing with you.
My bad....Seems like everyone is in attack mode after the Overeem fight. I guess its a sensitive topic.
I mean if the guy is not clean no roid test how you gona beat this guy.Dosent get tired dosent get hurt look at Barnett god nows how many fights he won with taking roids
Brett's got 50 pounds on Fedor come fight day (belly fat and all) and he's inexperienced fighting bullies his size. Clearly this was all mental and clearly Fedor wont act like he's shitting his pants.
Actualy this words are not from me from Bass Rutten.Ewen i new Overeem is fighting Fedor with roids i still put my money on Fedor just gona take him 2 rounds to KO him
People caling Rogers with 10 fights all KO inexperienst and Lesnar 4-1 World champion
Great question "who will win?" I seriously doubt we'll ever know the real answer because Fedors "management likey views Overeem as a semi/potential threat. Fedors next fight (after Werdum) will probably be against Kimbo based off of what I've seen from him and Finklefag the past 4 years. Then there's this guy down the street from me that claims he's pretty tough and wants to fight Fedor... that'll be his next opponent. Then there's this cab driver that wrestled in grade school .... etc etc etc YAY Fedor will retire undefeated with one billion keyboard warrior/ Pride nuthuggers claiming he's the greatest ever. Here's a short list of fighters that would humiliate Fedors rep right now. Cain, Brock, Dos Santos, Carwin. I'm no UFC hugger, that's just the facts. Flame away. Oh and probably add Overeem to that list, but again I doubt we'll ever know. Bring on the excuses from Fedor and his management over the next few months as to why he won't fight Overeem. It's always some reason. No different than Mayweather ducking Pacman... it's getting flat stupid.
Retarded much? Fedor's fought guys with actual records - who's Lesnar fought? Mir??
I have to agree with the doberman, fedors soul owners wont put him in a cage with Overeem especially after he destroyed Rogers
Gotta agree with this post entirely
Yea because if you refresh this thread every 20 seconds and reply to every single person who opposes your opinion then it might change the facts right? How about this.....Post your opinion on the matter and MOVE ON.
Fedor is fighting Werdum who alwredy submited Overeem.And you are so stupid talking like was Fedor is the one not defending his belt for 3 years.don't worry they will fight and the 4 of the UFC HW you talking none of them foght eatch other yet how you now weatch one of them is the top fighter lets see after 3 of them loose and one stunding the competition won't look that good tere
overeem just destroyed a man who gave fedor a pretty hard time. How can anyone still say with full confidence that fedor would do the same. Fedor nuthuggers never fail to amaze me.
Fedor and Overeem are completely different fighters.....diffierent styles, different approaches. Fedor may have taken longer to finish Rogers, but that does not make him a less skilled fighter. He simply has a different way to win. I can't see Overeem overwhelming Fedor on the ground like he did with Rogers. Fedor knows what to do in that situation. He has faced the ground and pound of many skilled fighters and was able to come out on top with a submission or a sweep. Overeem is powerful, but Fedor has dealt with such power before, and I believe he will be able to face it successfully again. There is always the chance that Fedor could get caught, but all signs point toward a Russian victory.
i dunno, overeem is like a fking rock.
if this fight happens, its not gonna be pretty.
I'd like to see Overeem against Lesnar
this is going to be a very skilled fight. it won't be like a k-1 match or a grappling match. it's going to be an all out war. when he was in pride, i always thought overeem was as good as anybody for five minutes.after that he would gas and expose his weaknesses like he did against shogun twice, chuck, and little nog. now with whatever he's taking, he looks like he can keep that pace longer and cause extreme damage. fedor will force the action in this fight and might take some of that damage. if he survives, i think he will outlast him and finally find his chin. i believe fedor is still the best and will find the right technique to beat overeem. a tough one to call though.
jamo and tigerstyle: two very good opinions, could not agree more
My general feelings about this fight hvae been stated in to opinions
Fedor ducks fights but even if this were to happen in magically SF land no one could say what could happen. Overeem come be ontop of fedor but fedor knows what to 2 do on his back on the other hand if Overeem overwhelms fedor he could very well TKO him. Standing gotta give it to Overeem iunno im really looking forward/hoping this is gonna happen would be the best SF fight of all time (lawl)
Overeem looked faster then he ever has imo, maybe it was just the motivation Rogers and the US fans gave him that made him come in a 110% but he looked devastating. Oveerem might enter my top 5 HW's now.
i think Werdum has a better chance of beating Fedor than Overeem.
Rogers came far closer to defeating Fedor than he did the roid-goon. He did far more damage to Fedor than he did to the roid-goon.
and you are a ****in retard
Damn, brilliant argument buddy. Impressive. The way you get angry when confronted with simple reality. You're like a really smart 4 year old.
Did I say something that wasn't true? Can you do better than getting and crying?
Rogers came far closer to defeating Fedor than he did the roid-goon. He did far more damage to Fedor than he did to the roid-goon. It's a fact.
Try watching the fights.
The question is not 'who will win?' but 'how fedor will win?'.
Maybe comments here are about TKO timing.
Reem should statistically win because he defeated Rogers in round 1 whereas it took 2 rounds for Fedor to do the same job.
Well, it was the same logic few month ago when people predicted Fedor loss only because he took more time than Rogers to finish Arlovski...
It didn't just take an extra round. Rogers was clearly more able to hang with Fedor. Rogers was landing, Fedor was bloody, he mounted Fedor and if one of those shots from mount had been a little more accurate, he would have been knocked out. There is nobody who can not be knocked out.
It was clearly a much easier fight for Alistair. I don't see how anyone can deny that.
fedor was mounted? did you watch same fight? rogers never mounted fedor he was in guard if that is wht u mean..?
i wish if Fedor fight with Werdum get canceled and Overeem fill the spot.
I want fedor to win but reem may be just to big if he keeps his cool he may be able to do what arlovski and rogers failed to do use their size to push fedor around and wear him down. you can never count a guy like fedor out but he is not the same fighter he once was one look at his last two fights will tell you that not to mention his physique. what im trying to to ay is sooner or later fedors age size and lack of committment will catch up to him and reem may be the one to do it
That will be when we finally get to see Fedor move over to fight the top competition. When it is widely recognized that he is out of his prime. That way there will always be that rationalization.
The fact is that nearly all stars in Japan have come over and looked mediocre. The vast majority, and the excuse is always that they're out of their prime. Which is nonsense. Nog is not old, Cro-cop is not old, Wanderlei is not old. Aoki will never be a contender, the Diaz brothers won't. But send them back to Japan and they will shine.
Your arguments are just BS, Did you see what the axe murderer did to ramapge in pride? still he got KOed by rampage in the UFC, Wandy is an old dog now, back in the day no one would stand a chance against him execept shogun. Crocop, even in pride, was flashy but was never a champion material, as for Nog, he always manage to get in the title contention spot and was champion in both pride and the ufc. The big champion stars in pride were HW Fedor, LHW Wanderlei and MW shogun. Fedor and shogun can still handle anyone in the UFC and Wandy is not the murderer he used to be and that's fact.
They aren't old in age, they are old in fights. A 25 year old will look old if he has been in 30+ fights against top competition like the PRIDE guys who fought almost every month, plus it seems like half of the fought in K-1 which is just as brutal and takes just as much a toll on the body. The reason that Anderson Silva and Fedor Emelianenko fight so well old is that in the majority of their fights they outclassed their opponents and taken minimal damage, just like pro boxers that don't fight anyone that can hurt them for their first 15-20 fights.
I'm telling you guys..... Overeem presents a legit challenge to Fedor so I doubt that fight will ever happen. Let the excuses begin from the Fedor crew as to why he cannot fight Overeem. It's always something... "contract dispute" etc etc
I just hope fedor fights someone so everyone will stop hating on him. Man hate hate hate. Maybe Overeem will beat fedor.... Then people will say he hasn't beat anyone. Fedor was ducking fights so the win against him doesn't mean anything. Meanwhile in the UFC, JDS beats Cain, Carwin beats JDS, Nelson beats Carwin, Brock beats Nelson...... and then Brock loses to Anderson Silva at a catchweight of 220. Then in a UFC and SF co-promotion, Anderson and Overeem fight and..... what!!!! Double knockout! Everyone sucks. Then we would all be happy.
The size difference is very big but I believe Fedor would win, he's a different animal.
Dude ! It doesn't matter what happen in the past or in their records !!! The ONLY way we'd know for sure is let them in the cage and fight to see who will be Victorious !!! That's the ONLY WAY !!!
they both need to join the UFC
We would win, the fans.
If Fedor wins Fedor fans will be intolerable!!
Overeem is great ,but Fedor will win with his strength and ability to reverse and pound is incredible, whenever he got hit became more dangerous to most opponent and finished the fight .
Fedor has got to be one of the most technical and conditioned fighters in MMA, and since main event fights go for 5 rounds if Fedor can get past the first round then hell form a plan that will either A) Knock out Overeem or B) Keep the fight going so that Fedor can wear Overeem out as he Did Mirko or Noguiera and then put down serious ground game on Overeem. Plus Fedor is a master fight tactician he analyses all of his opponents and hes is a Sambo champion which gives him advantages in analysing tactical fight space, a Bujinkon strong point, to ensure a coriographed0ballet like performance.
For whom is this fight more important? Strikeforce? Fedor and overeem? The MMA community? M1? Russia? Holland?
i love how idiots can compare a man with 11 losses in the same league as the greatest. sure he was impressive against rogers, but then rogers hardly looked sharp in that fight, he looked like he'd been on a doughnut diet since fedor.
sure if they do meet overeem has a chance of winning, same chance fedors 30+ over opponents had. damn he might even beat fedor everyone must lose some time. even if he did he will never be as good a fighter as fedor with 11 losses.
i read ufc lovers comparing someone with a 4-1 record ((1 loss to a punch bag 1 victory to a punch bag and 1 victory against a pensioner!!)) as better than fedor. i mean what planet are these people born on? i think there should be a cull of the insanely thick and then i wouldnt feel the need to waste my time pointing out how ludicrous their statements are.