Fan Opinion: Fedor vs Werdum In-depth preview
Posted on June 8, 2010, 10:32 AM by Rory KernaghanA lot of hype is surrounding the upcoming bout between Fedor and Werdum in Strikeforce on June 26th. Mainly because most people believe that Fedor should be fighting 'Top class' opponents. A comment I'm sure Werdum might take with offense. The truth is in the fight game fighters aren't always matched up with the opponents the fans most want to see them against, although inevitably most superfights eventually do happen somewhere down the line. For the mean time though here is my take on the Fedor vs Werdum bout.
We all know about Fedor, his record is 32-1-1NC. His only 'loss' coming due to a cut which he avenged later in his career. He has 9 knockouts and 16 submissions (twice as much as werdum) to his credit. With many top ranked names on Fedor's win list he has fought a long and exciting career through Pride, Rings, Affliction and most recently signing for Strikeforce after UFC negotiations collapsed. His most recent win was a stunning second round knockout over Brett Rogers after suffering a broken nose from the first punch.
His opponent , Werdum, holds a record of 13-4 with 4 knockouts and 7 submissions. Notable victories include TKO wins over Brandon Vera, Gabriel Gonzaga (twice), he also holds submission wins over Mike Kyle, Aleksander Emelianenko, Roman Zentsov and none other than Alistair Overeem. So people may want to think before shrugging off Fabricio as a no name fighter that was hand picked.
Records aside I think we may have a very good fight between the two men. I think Fedor may want to keep it standing but he is also no slouch on the ground with 16 submissions to his credit he is very able to hold his own. Werdum obviously has good stand up game but his bread and butter is the ground game, with great submissions that have seen him take out Fedor's younger brother and the current Strikeforce Heavyweight champ, Whom many have picked as the one to end Fedor's unbeaten streak. So where this fight will end up is anyones guess, but I think overall Fedor will prevail, most probably via TKO or submission like his last 10 fights.
The obvious match up for Fedor IF he wins this bout would be against Alistair Overeem, a match that many have been waiting years to see and which has the potential to be fight of the year, or better. Overeem has publicly said he will fight Fedor , even calling Fedor out after his 'Demolition' of Rogers. So lets hope that Fedor can best Werdum and we get to see the Demolition Man square off against The Last Emperor.
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Fedor by murder.
Werdum very much so has a chance at winning.... However, I cant help but wonder why it is the Fedor fans that keep pushing the idea that Werdum "could win." While I feel this is true, I start to get the feeling it is more about Fedor fans convincing others that this is a true test ,rather than Werdum being a legitimate opponent. Its obvious Fedor should be fighting Overeem or a handful of other guys that outrank Werdum. While I actually do feel Werdum can pull it off, "on paper" or as far as "rank" is concerned, this isnt really a fight that does anything to forward or cement Fedor's career. Just my opinion.
Thats a fair point dude, but Fedor himself isn't trying to cement his place as p4p best, he has never said that, IMO he is a fighter, the same as a guy with a 1-1 record, its in his heart and he has to fight regardless of who it is...He has never said 'I am the best on the planet'
Why should Fedor fight Overeem? .. Werdum beat Overeem.
What a stupid question.....
All these questions don't matter. He will never fight in the UFC. Draft dodger!
regardless when he lost or why .......HE IS CHAMP......as a fighter
thats what most want......................................................
No doubt and nevertheless, this will be a great fight!!
Anytime I see Werdum, I rmember his loss to Fedor above all, not to mention he couldnt make it against strikers from the UFC.
You can't remember something that has not happened yet. Also, Werdum beat Vera, lost a lackluster decision to Arlovski (toss up) and got KOd by JDS. That isn't really a bad run at UFC strikers. The truth is that if he took JDS down he would probably win. He got caught, whatever. Look at his record, he is a good fighter.
i don't even know why verdum is fighting him,fedor by vicious uppercut,ahahaah
another quality article man
But Fedor's nose being broken was just a rumor, not a fact.
this is not a quality article. i stopped reading as soon as i saw rogers broke fedors nose. it never happend. he reopened a cut that was given to fedor by his brother. any amount of actual research will show this.
but never the less people will continue to spread this broken nose misinformation
welcome to the site, I see u joined today thanks for ur input but what i heard is that his nose was broke, if u dont like what i write then when u see that i posted, DONT READ
Yeah I agree with you, there's no proof it was broken... I also stopped reading there, but just to see if anyone else picked up on that. Moving along...
I agree with waterjug. This isn't a good article. Badly punctuated in parts, inarticulate in others and contains misinformation. Still some interesting stuff in it though. I just think if you're writing an article you should get the facts straight. It's not that hard to do.
I like this site, it often has some really interesting stuff but it sometimes seems like its run by a bunch of kids.
Dan: "its no reflection on fedor wether or not his nose got broke, its not like he could have prevented it"
- Yeah, but that's not really the point Dan. If his nose didn't get broken you shouldn't be writing that it did in an article.
Then you have people like StickinUrChick and pound4pound saying "newbies" are "crying" and "trying to impress" and that "it's not a murder case". Nah, it's not a murder case guys but it doesn't mean the info in the article shouldn't be accurate. And just because someone's opinion differs from your own it doesn't mean they are "crying" or trying to impress!
Right, I think that's a sufficient number of people offended. Rant over.
This wasn't intended to piss anyone off by the way. Like I said before I like the site. Everything i'm saying is in the interest of the site, mma and mma journalism.
Man its about sharing pertinent information! "Badly punctuated in parts, inarticulate in others and contains misinformation" He doesnt get paid!! What the hell are you talking about? As far as "misinformation" take it up with the promotion he fights for! I have heard confirmation that it was broken..... No confirmation of any kind that it wasnt!! This right here is a prime example of why some of these Fedorites make me wanna vomit!! Fedor is a good fighter, but I bet he laughs at u people himself!!
That whole arguement is similar to a sprinkler going during a hurricane.
It really doesnt matter. Fedor won Brett lost.....next
...sweet...haha
rottenpunch ftw!
he's kind of a big deal around here, dont mess with him....
My understanding is that it was not broken. That said only Fedor, M-1 and his doctor really know. Either way, I thought it was a good post.
danC454 ftw!
haha this guys a moderator, id believe him if i were you!
btw nice article man, i actually didnt know werdum submitted overeem, was that at LHW or HW?
it was at openweight 2006 in pride
What is the big deal with the nose being broken or not, fighters get their noses broken all the time, the important thing is that Fedor Is fighting. Is not what we all want to see...
Yeah i know its not like im saying rogers kicked his ass, it was the info I had at the time of posting, and yeah its a fight, Sh*t happens lol
it implies that he did more damage than he actually did.
i also believe that if internet journalism ever wants any kind of credibility, people should check their facts before writing articles base on what they heard. we really dont need piles and piles of blatantly fabricated rumors blurring it all.
but ill let you guys have your posting party back and leave you alone.
my bad
Its not like that at all dude, you are more than welcome to read my posts and comment, but saying that you stopped reading after 1 small piece of info is ridiculous.... and besides Rogers did do damage he bloodied fedor up with jabs and G+P , its a fight that happens, i all for fedor fans but thinking he is invincible like u do is slightly naive amigo
its no reflection on fedor wether or not his nose got broke, its not like he could have prevented it!
now you are assuming im a fedor fan and fabricating that i think he is invincible. wow, very creative.
maybe try to see things objectively and stop reiterating the same ideas and projecting your ghosts onto people.
Why are u still carrying on?? If u dont like the article get the hell off the thread!! Why are u crying?
Fedor is the best in my opinion cause he always finds a way to win. He puts himself in danger cause he goes for the kill. Hes not going to dance around and avoid getting hit like machida or silva. His style is going to war and finish as soon as he can or getting hurt in the process and winning anyway. Nog is also a great comeback guy and i love that. These guys have heart and never give up. Fedor doesnt care to get hurt as long as he gets nearer to finish and go home and chill ;)
Fedor can't win for losing on this site. He gets a lot of love but there are still haters. The guy has a great record, he's humble, he's usually the smaller guy by height and weight, but people want to say he's dodging fights and fans are making excuses for him. Its ridiculous how much hate this guy recieves. I hope he wins every match for the rest of his life.
I hate when people that are new in this site start talking smack just to get notice... Funny thing is they talk Fedor, it does not matter if it´s for good or bad the subject is Fedor... I do not have anything against newbies in the site but it is getting old all the trash talk...
I think the reason they choose Fedor is because he has more fans than any other fighter, generating a bigger response. Plus if they Frank Trigg is bad there wouldn't be controversy as they'd be correct to a certain degree. Fedor as the best will always be the main target for haters.
Strikeforce commentators confirmed it had been broken when they were discussing the bout just before the Rogers vs Overeem fight. People are so damn weird "You have no proof" Its not a f*cking murder case man.... You should feel stupid as hell.
Me? why? I have not question if it was broken or not at all, what I was saying is that they are making a huge deal about his nose being broken or not, a fighter is use to it, so it did not matter if it was broken or not.
The other thing that I was saying is that new people in this site come and talk about Fedor just prove they know MMA and it is getting old in My opinnion, normally they do not have a clue what they are talking about, I am not saying this because of the article but someone was complaining to rottenpunch about his article did not had the facts checked and stuff like that, that is retarded...
No bro, it wasn't a reply. They fixed that mix up now... If it were a reply to you there would be a little transparent arrow from ur comment to mine.... I was saying in general to people on this thread crying.... And yes I agree with you about people lately being stupid like they're eager to impress someone.
Alright then, we are cool...
Good I was scared..... lol jk
Guys, the nose was not broken at all, fedor said it himself after the fight.
All rogers did was re-open a pre-existing cut that was given to Fedor by his brother Aleksander while he was preparing for the aborted Barnett fight at affliction trilogy.
If you look at pictures of fedor at the pre fight press conference or weigh-ins before the Rogers fight you can very clearly see the scar over the bridge of his nose which was not completely healed going into the fight.
Just because Gus Johnson and the strikeforce commentating crew went crazy saying it was a broken nose once they saw blood does not make it a broken nose.
The blood was the result of re-opening a pre-existing cut, not a broken nose, and those are the FACTS!
So rottenpunch put on a great article here and all that we are discussing is if Fedor had a broken nose or not?
Get over it people, he is human, I am fan of him not because he has not lose but because of his fighting style, I almost sure he will lose soon but I don´t care he still is goign to be the most dominant HW that has lived.
Yes it was a good logical analysis by rottenpunch on the Fedor Werdum fight, but that does not take away from the fact that the broken nose assertion is flat out untrue.
I just have to point it out because it has been reapeted over and over again by ignorant reporters and comentators how Fedor got his nose broken by Rogers as a way to try and diminish Fedor's performance when in fact his nose did not get broken at all.
Reportes and commentators have to be called on their bullshit when they make inaccurate assertions and comments without checking their facts first.
the point is not Fedor goddam nose broken or not
His recors 31-1 in HW devision is almost imposible just 1 NC
Best fighter P4P in the world and someone think Fedor overhyped and questionable ?
Hes great and a potential fighter really rare to see in nowaday.IMO
Werdum may not be top 5 but since he has beaten Overeem (albeit when he was smaller than today's version), Gonzaga and Aleksander Emelianenko he deserves more respect than many people are giving him. It can be argued that he Werdum has as much right to be ranked low top 10 as many of the fighters that have been there this past year. He needs more than a bad loss to JDS to lose the respect that he has gained over many years of fighting! Any top 10 fighter can have a bad loss.
As for the future... I think that Fedor will win what will be a hard fight with Werdum... then its all aboard the Alistar Overeem War Wagon!
Alistar Overeem is now a complete fighter in skill, size and experience and at the top of his prime while Fedor is starting to lose his. I believe that Overeem will be the one to beat Fedor and will become the top MMA heavy weight for the next 5 years at least. I'm confident that Overeem will be more than willing to take time away from K1 in the future to go and dominate the UFC once Fedor is behind him. Overeem is a fighting machine and I just don't see him as a man that will leave things to doubt. Further, there is no M1 nonsense with this top heavy weight.
Agree with everything you said apart from Overeem. He may have improved in recent years, but he still has a glass jaw. I'd be amazed if Fedor couldn't find it, even a diminished winding down fedor.
Thanks for CONTRIBUTING rottenpunch..... Some people havent learned how the site works yet bud.
MMamarco you are a dumbass you think overeem will dominate mma for 5 years have you ever seen an overeem fight besides the rodgers fight anytime overeem gets hurt a little in a fight or the momentum swings to the other guy for a split second overeem gives up or gets winded i think the only reason he dominated rodgers was because brett was real intimidated by his size and all the hype and rodgers had lost the fight before it ever started. overeem is overrated and we'll find out when fedor deystroys him or he goes to the ufc and gets beat by 1 of 10 guys they got that could beat him.
I think Werdum is still good opponent for Fedor. He has a good record, top fighters, dispite his loss to Dos Santos. He just did not take Dos Santos seriously because DS was a rockie. If they fight now, it could be a different story.