Fedor Emelianenko vs Fabricio Werdum trailer; Official fan farewell photos

Strikeforce and Showtime are really hyping this man up.."The greatest fighter of all time " How did they come to that conclusion?

Supposedly by actually following MMA...

@UnderdogGreatness



Do you live under a ROCK????

threw out the bait huh?

It always works too , go figure.

the picture of arlovski sleeping in the background is priceless

i want that as a poster, does anyone know where to get a link for that pict

Actually I do LOL..

FEDOR IS ALMOST THE BEST.

HE WILL BE THE BEST WHEN HE DESTROYS UFC TOP COMPETITORS.



......nuf said

why is my comment so weak.......???

Its the truth, Fedor should fight UFC top compeditors to prove he is actually the best

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Fedor vs Lesnar

Fedor vs Carwin

Fedor vs BigNog

Fedor vs Cain V.

Fedor vs BigCountry

Big Nog? Where you been bro? I agree with everyone that Fedor should (not needs to) fight all these UFC people but I promise you that you will look at all the fighters differently when they eventually all fight each other. Everyone wants Fedor to fight Brock, Shane, JDS, and Cain but they haven't even fought each other. Trust me I'm not Fedor's biggest fan but as you guys know I think it's just ridiculous how much hate he gets.

They should fight each other first before getting Fedor. Cain only beat Big Old Nog, whom Fedor beat twice in Nogs prime time. Carwin beat only Mir, Lesner beat Mir and old Couture. JDS beat only Werdum.

The winner of Lesner/Carwin can be mentioned to fight Fedor.

lol we were on the same wavelength there

maybe the ufc heavyweight champion could fight some of those too to prove he is actually the champ

Your logic is so backward. Here's why...



Fedor has been ranked #1 for years. So any UFC heavyweight who wants to prove THEY are the best must fight Fedor. The #1 dont need to beat anyone to prove they are the best cos they already proved it, it is up to others to change that.



Let me guess he's been ducking them, well before that pathetic arguement is posted i already done it for ya.

He may not be the best right now, but he also is not in his prime right now. Why do you guys get so worked up when people call him the best?

In his prime he is the best....PERIOD

he doesnt consider himself the best and he doesnt feel the need to prove anything, do you get it?

Sure would be nice to see him fighting the real competition. If he beats Werdum it means absolutely nothing.

hmmmm i tend to disagree. while werdum isnt such a big opponent as maybe Brock, Carwin etc etc, he is the second best Strikeforce have for Fedor, after Overeem. however i also agree that it is almost time for Fedor to "put up or shut up"

7 WEAKS in like 30 seconds. You have to wonder what the zombies actually are responding to. I don't think they even know. Unless they are suggesting that I'm wrong because Werdum is worthy competition, in which case they are either idiots, or they don't think much of Fedor.

I think it depends if you are in the "Special Group", I am not so I wouldn't know.

fedor will never fight Overeem because theres a chance he could lose...not bad mouthing fedor because i know if it was up to him he would take the fight but his management are c***s

I think if he beats Werdum, then you will see the Overeem fight.

I agree with ston3pony...beating Werdum means absolutely nothing. Werdum is not someone even in the same category as Fedor or the other top guys and it's sad the fact that that is the 2nd best that Strikeforce has to offer...2nd best only because Strikeforce has that weak of competition to where it means nothing to Fedor because he belongs in a higher and much stronger class one which Werdum couldn't handle. If he submits Werdum in a technical grappling match then it will raise eye brows and make it not so "blah"...but still seeing Fedor in these over hyped meaningless fights is getting old. Yeah people pay to see Fedor but they done pay to see him run over speed bumps, if you want your money's worth from Fedor then put him Dana's office with a pen

seem werdum already beat overeem and has some quality scalps on his resume. i think Fedor is fighting the best he can in strikeforce by fighting Werdum. He certainly dont have a glass jaw like Overeem.

Agreed. If he submitted Werdum, that would be impressive. But, it's about as impressive as if he had submitted Frank Mir.



If he can so easily beat Lesnar or Carwin and take the real HW belt, he should do it. It's not about money. Overeem is basically Strikeforce's JDS, the guy who smashed Werdum and chased him off to the easier organization.



A victory over Werdum doesn't raise his stock any. If it's not a decisive crushing of Werdum, then Fedor should be judged objectively for that. The fact is that Overeem handled Rogers much more effectively than Fedor did.



Unfortunately the obsessed Fedor-Zombies read these simple fair common sense statements as Fedor-Bashing. They're like religious fanatics.

I'm not so convinced he can even beat the top 4 guys in the UFC anymore to be honest...right now from what I've seen from Fedor he'll have to show me because I doubt it. I would put money on JDS, Carwin and Valasquez and be 100% confident in it and I think he knows the same which is why he says he'll retire or stay with Strikeforce...that's all it could mean

i never seen fedor run away for 2 rounds in a fight like silva has.

Fedor go to the UFC. Shields is doing it, OVereem is gonna do it, Arlovski wish he could do it again.....EVERYONES DOING IT!

We would all love to at one point in our lives

You keep talking about top competition who is the top competition in HW devision Fedor. If you wana fight the best fight Fedor don't hide in UFC like Randy and Mir did when ewery one was fighting in Pride.In SF you can fight were you want

Actually Mokoko makes sense here, the same could of been said about the HW in UFC when Pride was around.



Now all the Fedor haters want to see him in UFC to prove him wrong...



I will like to see him in the UFC but to fight prople like Mir, or Cain or WELL ROUNDED fighters and not overrated Lesnar, people that can stand up and fight or if it goes to ground be able to pull a submission, because whatever you guys say Lesnar is overrated and a onedimensional fighter.



He is a living legend, he has no more to prove, he has dominated every league he is being in, who else has done that. If you come up with one name I will shut up...



As for STONEPONY Werdum is a great fighter, I do not know if you know that he was cut from the UFC for losing to JDS which I do not see any shame on that, JDS is being destroying every guy he faces, He defeated Gonzaga twice, and Vera also, saying he is not top competition is just being ignorant of the sport.

The best competition is in the UFC, that's all. You're happy to see Fedor keep fighting nobody after nobody, once a year, I'm not. You only like to pretend that Werdum is worthy competition.

stfu and grow a brain u motard

Why do you call competition the best in the UFC? Why? Who Cain, Shane, Brock and JDS have fought to be the best? Lets see by ranking at the time of a fight: Shane - 12 fights (1 top 10 - Mir), Cain 8 fights ( Big Nog, Congo???), Brock - 4 fights(Couture and Mir), JDS (Werdum). Simple math, together they have 5 top 10 fights, the rest is nobodies.

Let see how many Fedor fought top 10 at the time of a fight:

Big Nog (ranked 1), Cro Cop (ranked 2), Coleman (top 10), Randleman (top 10), Silvia (top 10), Arlovski (top 10), Rogers (top 10) - 7 top 10 fighters.



Lightheavy weight is the best in the UFC, no question, they all fought each other many times and the best is Shogun for now!



P.S. I am not a Fedor Zombie, it is just I don't see any arguments other than "He has to fight top competition". Fedor's haters cannot define a top competition.

You are exactly right...everyone here knows it but they're too busy riding the Fedor bandwagon to admit it. People say these guys are worthy competition for Fedor but when Anderson cleans out a whole division in the UFC and makes it look easy it's "He's not getting good competition, he's bored and needs better competition" No idiots...Anderson just IS that good and makes it look easy along with moving up and KOing former champions...unlike Fedor

I am not saying this to be rude or anything, but I did not read that entire post. I am only saying that because I only intend to comment on the part I did read... Even when Pride was doing well, it was never comparable to SF and UFC..... For a fighter to leave an American based organization that was still doing better and destined for bigger things to move to an organization that was doing well at best and was based in Japan makes no sense.... Please in your attempt to support Fedor do not encourage Mokoko... Please its kinda ridiculous to say UFC fighters should move to SF to fight Fedor for obvious reasons... For one, SF is not even in the same galaxy as the UFC as far as talent, popularity, and sheer success (especially in dollar amounts)... For two, even if those fighters were to move to SF, Fedor would not fight them!! Look at Overeem!! That guy can BUY a fight and he is the promotion's champ!! Anyways, carry on the nonsense folks.....

Oh and I just read over my post... I did not mean Pride wasnt comparable to SF and UFC.... I meant, SF vs UFC is not the same as Pride vs UFC, meaning SF is no where near the organization Pride was....

Depending on the situation (for ex: Dan Henderson), some people will benefit more or will be more willing to go to SF or another mma org.

What? Pride was way biger than the UFC way biger, in the States it is starting to grow but in Japan had more followers than anywhere else in the entire world, I was not Encouraging Mokoko in the UFC fighters should join SF, what I was sayong is that at the time Pride was around and the biggest Organization of MMA UFC HW where not at the level at the copetition that Pride had, I have been following MMA for the last 10 years.



One thing you may need to remember is that to prove that UFC was at the level of Pride Dana took Chuck to Japan and we all know how that went, don´t we?

To say Pride was bigger than the UFC is a matter of opinion or debate, so I will stay clear of that particular point, but you still have the fact that it was bigger in JAPAN... So for many fighters moving to Japan when they have a great organization in the states was probably not an option. The entire Chuck got beat in Pride issue is tired bro... Any can win or lose on any day in MMA and Chuck represented the top of the LHW division....

OK a better way to look at it is how many pride fighters are having success TODAY in UFC compared to those pre 2006 UFC fighters still in UFC. I think you will find that pride fighters have lasted better and enjoyed more success in UFC than most pre 06 UFC fighters.



Just because UFC is more popular and commercially more successful does not mean it has evolved past pride in terms of talent. I personally think it has in some divisions, but not in HW but overall right now there are 2 UFC champions who fought in pride before they ever fought in UFC. Silva Rua Penn Rampage all pride fighters gobbled up by dana's monopoly. Since they are still more or less the standard it's hard to say UFC has evolved past it or is better. It is more popular in States, therein lies the bias.

No reasonable person needs to have it explained to them why it is that it would be moronic for the best fighters in the best organization in the world to leave to the minor leagues to chase someone.



UFC bought Pride, and Fedor went to the easy organization instead. That's the bottom line.

everyone always goes on about fedor going into the ufc? why? because he has to beat a freakshow to prove he is the #1 heavyweight of all time? this is what the sport has come to that all the majority of people care about is ratings and pay per view buys. fedor fought in pride and ruled pride. he beat cro cop, nog, ranldeman, coleman, to name a few, all in a time when these men were in there prime. the problem we face now is that mma is growing so fast that new fans are getting into the sport and only see the ufc! they dont know about pride, the history or the level of competition back then. they see brock as a poster boy and dana white making him out to be the most dominant fighter in mma! hes fought 5 times!!!!!! Fedor is and will always be the best heavyweight fighter of all time and to say anderson silva is #1 p4p is unrealistic as he hasnt really faced the level of competition that fedor has.

Well thats the way they should see it... Not the part about Brock and Dana etc, but new fans do not see Pride because Pride is dead my friend...

yes Pride is dead, but the fighters who fought in Pride are still dominating

btw Pride was far more competitive and exciting that ufc or sf

before you talk shit about mma, you must know the history

well said mate.

fully aware pride is dead my friend but the fighters who fought in pride are still dominating today and even though so many strong and brilliant fighters are coming through the game today, none look even close to achieving what the nogs, cro cops, fedors, wanderlei's, liddell's and jacksons had achieved. all fighters who established themselves in pride with an exception to liddell. New fans see monsters such as lesnar and think automatically he is the #1 heavyweight today and of all times. its messed up. Pride is sitll an essential part to mma because essentially its where everything became in terms of mainstream mma. It would be a shame if all the history and great fights were forgotten due to exagerated marketing by the ufc promoting freak shows such as lesnar. lesnar is a worthy competitor but in no way does he has the credentials to determine wether or not fedor is the p4p king.

uh.. please do not say lidell is from pride, he fought in 1 tournament to try and get the wanderlei fight to happen but it didn't. but good job crocopcullen you almost look like you know what your talkn about (:

OHh and 1 more thing, if fedor looses to anybody hes OBVIOUSLY not p4p king, dont be a retard.

Agree.

RANLDEMAN!?! COLEMAN!?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!>?! and what is wrong with the 17 crackheads who think this is sharp?! no matter how you put your spin on it, or how you say it in the MODERN DAY fedor is fighting BUMS. like wedum.. who got 1 punch kod by dos santos, guess where dos santos is.. hes in the freakshow called the UFC. and i completely agree dana whites a deuche and he turned a great sport into a slimy buissnesss but if you think fedor can retire as the best HW ever without fighting guys like Carwin, Valasquez, Mir and UNFORTUANTLY lesnar. these are the best heavyweights right now in the world and if fedor isnt even fighting top ten HW then hes fighting B level competetion and hes not proving anything for his later years. your a retarted

retarted fag**

About the best fighter all time watch the program called inside MMA they ascked all fighters and fans who is the greatest all timme gues who won

FEDOR XD!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's go with Fedor for a $1,000,000 Alex. Ding Ding....

Werdum another weak 2nd rate HW, Rodgers was bad enough now Fedor's going to fight Werdum ahahah..... not to bash werdum but to fight the " BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD P4P" LOL like Fedor, you shouldnt be getting knocked by but Dos Santos in his 1st fight in the ufc.... but thats just the kinda of fight Fedor like to take.... I think he will be unbeaten the rest of his career... he doesnt give a shit about being the best........ he'll always be fighting the shitty hyped old washed up fighters...... and( IM NOT TALKING ABOUT PRIDE 5 yrs AGO ( im talking NOW) if you disagree with this statement you are ignorant

The UFC is definetly not the Pride. Let's be real, Pride has brought the sport of MMA to where it is now. UFC and Strikeforce has taken the sport over the top. More so UFC. I am not a Dana lover as people know now, but he has made it the best Fighting Championships. It will be hard for a company like Strikeforce to out do the UFC right now. The reason is the competition in the LHW division and below is the most competitive. HW division was weak. Now it is better for sure.



As for Fedor, since this is what the post is about, if he was in the UFC's HW division it would be unreal, but that is hot air right now. I hope Fedor(M-1) and Dana get get it together and give what the fans want.



Good Luck Fedor.

This is going to be a great fight to watch no doubt.



Does anyone know if Showtime is going to have Fight Camp 360 Fedor/Werdum, just like the Fedor/Rogers fight?

The only problem is that Strikeforce gets all the fighters passes up by the UFC which means it gets the fighters that should be i n the UFC



Dan Henderson ex.

Agreed.

I think Fedor is too much hype. Sure he is a stud but the guy throws bombs to the point where he misses he'll faceplant!

As soon as he grow some balls and comes to the UFC everyone will find out that he isn't anything but a big name small skill

I think we have to wait until he gets beat. He is a great fighter that has only 1 lose via cut or doctor stoppage. When his contract is up with strikeforce and M-1 after these two fights then we will see if he goes to UFC, but again this is hot air. I am not going to hold my breath.

you know that Fedor is a shareholder of M-1...unless UFC really makes something where Fedor can fight freely in and out of the UFC, he ain't ever going to fight in the UFC. M-1 want to negotiate on equal terms, and UFC don't see it like that. To the UFC Fedor is just another 'fighter' and shouldn't be treated differently that all the fighters they currently have. But just due to the fact that Fedor has an ownership in M-1 makes him different in that respect, equal to UFC in negotiations, maybe not, but he is definitely not just fighter.

On paper Werdum is definitely a weak opponent for Fedor, no surprise there.... With that said I would not be shocked if Fedor got caught in a submission, after all it is mma. That is one of the things that keep people watching as he fights weak opponent after weak opponent, the possibility that a "can" could overcome Fedor. Its the underdog phenomenon... Everyone loves to see an underdog overcome the odds...

a weak opponent for Fedor? dont make me laugh....!

i wish i could have the half of the free time you have to write such of trash!!!

The diference between UFC and SF is if fight in SF you can go to UFC and fight tere aswell if you sighn contract with UFC you trapped in the shitt if loose your first fight posible you gett kicked out you have to be stupid to fight for UFC any were

Fedor by murder

Another Fedor thread, and another bunch of "insightful" comments. I see the same few fans making the only rational comments on every fedor thread, defending what is really just common sense when you think about it. Thanks to you few for trying to keep it real, you know who you are, and you have more patinece than I do.

Hey I found the end of the page woohoo!

just retire fedor i mean i love you but seriously... im literally sick to my stomach of these fake aaass MMA fans who think they're real fans just cause they ban wagon fedor. its absolutely ridiculous like half of the people who comment about him have seen 0% of his fights.

Remember when Dana used to bring fighters to Pride? Except they got their asses kicked and he stopped bringing them over. Especially when Fedor was there, Dana would NEVER have thrown his best guy to the wolves to fight Fedor. That would have only proved that Pride was better and he wouldn't risk that. It could have destroyed the credibility of the UFC completely.



In a few years when Fedor is too old to fight, some one will beat him and Dana will run his mouth saying, see he lost, I told you he sucks.

Everytime Dana runs his mouth Fedor has to back away from the UFC because Dana's breath stinks. HA HA!!

anybody tell werdum that it's impossible to sub a guy when your asleep ass up in the air?!