Fedor Emelianenko: Alistair Overeem keeps finding excuses not to fight me

Yeah... Don't you hate that when fighters refuse to fight the best competition out there? You tell him Fedor, from your high-horse.



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You are a person who feels anger and/or jealousy for someone who has succeeded in something they have worked hard for.

A being who speaks badly,and/or takes negative actions in attempt to create problems for a successful person.





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Hello pot this is the kettle.

im not a mma hater that spams shit against fighter that is proven, you can bet on that... kettle

Funny stuff up there.

good thing im the pot, get a sense of humor, oh yeah i spread hate on lowkick ask everyone how much i hate

Yea man, you're just such a hateful spammer guy lol

the pot was ston3pony, and i put the "kettle" thing around your neck after your first comment.

dont you get it? lol

The Strikeforce HW division is about the same as UFC in terms of talent. If Dana tells you 100 times that Lesnar is the best in the world, sadly, lots of ignorant people start believing it. Carwin and Lesnar are all strength, no technique. No way could they be called top "fighters". Might as well throw a bear in the octagon, it would be the best "fighter" on earth.

Here is some stats I gathered...The two best fighters at Strikeforce are Fedor and Overeem. The two best at UFC are Lesnar and Carwin. This is IMO and just used to state an example.

The combined record of Brock Lesnar opponents is 74-37-0. He has fought 4 fighters currently or previously in the UFC, and fought a total of 10 rounds with these fighters.

The combined record of Shane Carwin's opponents is 79-62-0. He has fought a total of 5 fighters currently or previously in the UFC and fought a total of 6 rounds with these fighters.

The combined record of Allister Overeem opponents is 587-318-20. He has fought a total of 8 fighters currently or previously in the UFC and fought a total of 19 rounds against these fighters.

The combined record of Fedor's opponents is 439-239-4. He has fought a total of 11 fighters currently or previously in the UFC and fought a total of 24 rounds with these fighters.

So I would say that the competition is not as stiff as one would think in the UFC. Zombie.

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Go grab and dangle Dana White's balls you ignorant nuthugging hater!

That is some good research. I think all four of those fighters are pretty good. No one can dispute the abilities of any of them.

dkm, here's a fact for you (not that you'll consider it), no fighter in boxing or MMA or combat sports history has ever faced the level of competition that Lesnar has faced from his first fight on.



Fedor isn't even in the same universe. How many bums did he warm up on before he fought anybody good? 20?



Not even remotely in the same ball park.

No 2 best in UFC are Carwin and Cain/Dos Santos

Yea because that has everything to do with a fighters talent or abilities. Wish someone would have thought of that sooner... There would be no need for any of these arguments!! In fact, based on that logic, I present to you not only the greatest heavyweight, but the best pound for pound fighter on the face of the planet (and maybe beyond)!!!



http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Travis-Fulton-80

At least I took the time to research my argument before I just dropped off a random thought. I know who Travis Fulton is without going to Sherdog...but is he a Barnett, Fedor, Overeem, Silva? These guys are not bums. They are world class fighters. But I don't think that a guy who started training three years ago and has six fights should be considered better than someone like Barnett or Overeem.

I am not saying that the UFC fighters are crappy, I think that their heavyweight division is not as solid as their other divisions. In fact I don't think their is a fighter out there right now that can break into the light-heavies and make an impact, maybe one or two in middleweight and welter weight and possibly one in light-weight.

But the heavyweight division has always been weak and it always will, that has always been the nature of that division.

It's my opinion.

No worries man, it was just for fun... Of course you are entitled to your opinion. I myself am a fan of Overeem and I believe he would do very well in the UFC. However, I can only agree with you to a certain extent. Its hard for me to agree that Strikeforce's HW division as a whole is stronger than the UFC's as a whole. There are some top talents in both promotions. The depth of the UFC's is what puts it ahead of SF's imo. Take a guy like Brett Rogers who has fought for their title... I personally feel as tho even a lower level UFC HW like Cheick Kongo would take him out... Thats just one example tho. I guess my point is, outside of Overeem, Fedor, and maybe Josh Barnett, who do they really have? If you are just comparing those three guys to maybe Lesnar, Carwin, and Cain, then maybe there is an argument, but as far as division vs division, I gotta go with the UFC.

I do agree that the UFC is deeper too, bigger roster. What people kinda forget is that all these fighters have to come from somewhere. So we should support all the organizations. The more there are the higher the competition value the better the fighters will beome.

I really wish the organizations would open up though and cross promote more so that we can see the best fights possible instead of who can "ink" people first. Someday.

One other thing we know is that we don't need to have special eyes to see that brock is not tip of the talent pool only the size pool in the UFC so your ballpark is a bit sparse as well stating the competition faced. The only real test he had at his size was Carwin which although lost the fight was could very well have been one of the most one sided first round stoppages in the UFC. The only reason Brock was thrown in the deepend strait away was because of Danas desire for money and Fedor did not have the luxury of being able to get a title shot within his first 2 fights and that was not his decision to wait till he climbed the ladder. Your acting like Brock was the only guy that would want that opportunity and that Fedor would never have done so. Brock also in my opinion only started to face the best of the UFC since Carwin as there was bareley a heavy class when he started. He must prove himself many times yet in order to get the same respect that Fedor has worked much harder for.

I might add that I do believe now that the UFC has the best heavy division but I am not so sure they have the top 2 guys. The UFC almost certainly has everything from 205 down to 155 in terms of quality and the WEC would have everything below that except womens mma. WEC may have a better 155 champ right now too but it's 155 pool isn't as good as the UFC's.

"One other thing we know is that we don't need to have special eyes to see that brock is not tip of the talent pool only the size pool in the UFC so your ballpark is a bit sparse"



No buddy, you just had trouble understanding it. What I stated is fact. Average level of competition, nobody else comes close. Fedor isn't on the list.

Agreed, no organization can touch the UFC at LW, WW,MW...and especially at light heavyweight.

Here's another stat you got 163 weaks in one post...so I think we all know where your opinion lies in the lowkick community rankings. So why would I consider it??

Damn!!!! FUNNY!

You shouldn't dkm, do what the tards who can only click weak do. It's better to say nothing, then make a dumb statement.



Let me know when you can do better than click weak like an infant okay?



When it comes to total average level of competition, nobody comes close, not Fedor or Anderson or Georges or BJ. You can't address that. So, just click weak instead of commenting with a lame dodge.

Actually I never click weak, don't have to...I think you see what everyone thinks of the validity of your points are. You just hate anyone to have a point that differs from yours...I take the time to research a point and you say that you are hyperventilating...and all this other crap. Then you resort to name calling, then calling everyone unintellegent, and then everyone is against you. I won't post against you because I am seeing that this is just how you find some sort of fulfillment...have a good day, this bores me.

Bunch of nothing again dkm? Exactly what I expected.

funny video actually I saw about just that. Brock vs. Bear. Its a joke but funny in all the descriptions of what would happen.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC_HLtrxOAU

you made me laugh. brock is a bear

I think that the Strikeforce heavyweight division is better than the UFC.

I think you smoke crack.

I think you smoke Lesnar pole.

Must be true if a tard on the internet can make the empty claim huh. That's what you rely on. Stupid comment > dodge > stupid comment > dodge.



Anything to avoid making an attempt an argument.



SF hw division is better, hilarious.

You did the same thing when you told him he smoked crack instead of stating in quantitative terms why you believe that Strikeforce does not have the better HW division.

"The Strikeforce HW division is about the same as UFC in terms of talent"



Sorry, can't type... Hyperventilating from laughter.

If you think that Lesnar and Carwin have no technique then you must not watch much MMA. Mariusz Pudzianowski is an example of all strength and no technique, Bob Sapp is. Regardless of how strong Lesnar and Carwin are, wrestling takes a great deal of skill.

sorry dude not to start an argument but i really think you should stop writing stupid comments because you are NOT funny... at all. I kinda feel embarrased for you whenever i read one of your posts. Regards

So i had to give you a "funny" on that, but at the same time, cmon do you rele think SF has the same HW division as the UFC. Although I funnied your comment I had to sharp the UFC HW > SF HW comment. SF has a few good names but UFC HW is deep and still expanding

thats not what i meant at all. i only made that comment in relation to the epic"Sorry, can't type... Hyperventilating from laughter".yeah i think UFC has a better heavyweight division by far

i hope fedor has a great life after fighting

Me too OMR... By all accounts he's a humble and nice guy.

I dont like the sound of that. retirement sounds very close. He cant retire without firstly re-matching with werdum then coming to the ufc even if its only for 2-3 fights.He needs to come and prove to himself he could beat the tops guy, prove it to dana and prove it to all the fans who are mainly ufc fans as opposed to mma in general and believe that the ufc has all the best guys. who wouldnt want to see him there fighting brock-cain-santos.

for those who clicked weak on me. please give a reason?

Some people think Fedor has nothing to prove.

And you're not really an MMA fan if you have no problem with fighters calling themselves the greatest and not backing it up. Especially when they accuse other fighters of doing it at the same time.



I'm sure I used to be a bigger Fedor fan than you are now. Must have turned a lot of people on to the sport by showing them his videos.



If you have integrity though, you hold fighters to equal standards. Fedor accusing ANYBODY of ducking competition, is hypocritical. That's just reality.



And, it would be the same if Alistair talked down about someone in the same way. How long did he refuse to defend the Strikeforce belt?

Just one thing, I have never heard Fedor call himself the greatest fighters, I heard Couture, I heard Bas, I heard GSP, I heard BJ Penn, I heard even Tito, I heard a lot of fighters say that Fedor was the greatest but not once he said that about himself. Even Joe Rogan called him the Baddest MOFO on earth.

Dana White is holding a whole Heavyweight division from fighting competition. I knew this when he stepped in to stop the Couture/Fedor fight.

Things tend to be chalked up to "Fedor's bad management" when it's convenient... He knows how he's promoted.

Of those names you mentioned every one of them called Fedor the greatest except for Tito.

Or, he simply is stating an informed opinion based on facts he gathered using grey matter and logic, something you obviously lack in great quantities.

Calm yourself there Freud.

And the world is still asleep.



Honestly, it wouldn't be that good a fight. Overeem is WAAYYY overhyped just because people want to make it look like a big deal when Fedor beats him. Before he fought rogers he was just another steroid junkie who fought nobody's, now apparently he can take down the UFC by himself.



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Why did Alistair destroy Rogers and Fedor struggled? You don't make sense.

overeem has fought many top names in their prime at lhw but he wasnt mage successful. since his transition to HW he has been successful. he would probably get KO'd by Fedor due to bad chin, but he would also have a chance of beating Fedor as he is one of the best strikers at HW anywhere in the world.

Roids has only faced at most 2 legitimate people at HW

That has nothing to do with the outcome of possible Fedor vs Overeem.



following that logic,fighters that share common opponents shouldn't even fight each other,you could just compare their performance against that opponent.



with that said,i don't think overeem is overrated.i think he is the fighter that developed the most since his Pride days.And i really don't know how can anyone say he fought nobody's..

As for steroid use..well i think talking about that is just a waste of time.in professional sports in general.its not going to stop,even when its that obvious.they obviously found a way to get away with it,and they only get caught when they become careless.when their career is over,they will admit steroid use like marion jones did..or ken shamrock in mma.. im not saying i agree with it,but seriously,you will never be as big and ripped as brock or alistair,no matter how hard do you train,if you dont take supplements.and as far as im concerned,they are all illegal.how can they be illegal one year,and somehow,they become legal the next.its all bullshit.

i just hope that,in the end,skill will win over the power..

just because Fedor wasn't able to beat Rogers as easily as Alistair did doesn't make Alistair better.That MMA math never adds up right.Example Keith Jardine was able to beat Chuck Liddell convincingly,then Chuck went on to beat Wanderlei Silva,then Wanderlei raped choked Jardine :)

I make tons of sense you're just too dumb to understand. Have you decided what side you're on yet? I'm on the side that REMEMBERS and UNDERSTANDS what people were saying HERE ON THIS SITE about overeem before he fought rogers.



So what pony, did you just see my post and jump on it without even understanding what was written?

Great post ryuTTFU!



I completely agree with you both on your points about Alistar's development since Pride and the whole debate about steroid use.



Nobody seems to be completely innocent in high level competitive professional sports. I don't think it's fair to just point to a few fighters when the next day another Chael Sonnen type story happens to fighters people didn't expect where on stuff.



Cheers!

i remember the commentary when gil melandez fought aoki.before i say anything,im going to declare that im huge aoki fan,and im completely biased.in that fight aoki had nothing on melandez.even when he managed to pull guard on the middle of the octagon,gil would simply carry him,and press him against the fence,and aoki couldn't work his rubber guard.it was very dominant performance,and i dont have any problem with that.although i think that it would be completely different story in the ring.

the thing i have the problem with,is commentator having an argument about difference between "american athlete" and all others.like that his strength developed from nothing but hard training.and he was probably suggesting that it has something to do with some special,never seen,training regime that can only be found in america...

you can clearly distinguish guys that are (reeeeaaally)using supplements,like sherk,gil etc,from those who probably just train their asses off like kenny,aoki..



This post has nothing to do with overeem and fedor :)

Actually it has a lot to do with it. Until they fight, common opponents are the strongest evidence.

its not evidence.evidence is something that cannot be disputed.if it was evidence,we would know the winner,and that fight would have no competitive value.

Actually, it is evidence. You're thinking of the word "proof", they have different meanings.

well sure,whatever,english is not my first language so you probably know better.it doesn't make your argument right. MMA math is one of the most ridiculous things in this sport.right next to p4p lists

It's not MMA math. It's not a comparison of stats or records. They both fought Rogers, one had a much harder time than the other. That's all. It is evidence, by definition. Whatever else someone wants to tack on to it, or whatever they want to make out of it, is irrelevant conjecture.

what you said,my friend,is MMA math by definition

Okay, then it's preschool math that shouldn't be tough for anybody. You like to pretend that I'm playing 6 Degrees Of Kevin Bacon. There's no convoluted logic or even anything that amounts to opinion. Alistair dominated Rogers, Fedor struggled and nearly lost to Rogers. It's just a fact. People pretend it doesn't mean anything, because they like to believe the legend that has been built up with Fedor.



Their common opponent is the one tangible piece of evidence. You arguing that it doesn't matter, because of whatever reason you want to offer, is all empty speculation.



Common opponents are always being cited when commentators are trying to predict a fight. Pretending it means nothing is irrational.

you can never know who is going to win,until they fight.it's simple as that.



it can mean that alistair has better form at the moment.it can mean that fedor had a bad night.it can mean rogers was scared of overeem.it could mean that rogers didn't bounce back after his loss to fedor.it can mean that overeem is better fighter,but it can also mean that rogers is simply better matchup for him,than he is to fedor. it can equally mean any of that,and probably much more.



so,who are you to decide which one is it?

You realize ryu that you haven't contradicted anything that I said? Nothing you've said disagrees with anything I said. Of course anyone can win.

you are saying that common opponent is the best indicator of how will the fight possibly go.Im saying that there are so many factors that could have been considered when their fights against rogers took place,that u cant possibly tell what does it mean exactly.no one can,based only on that.the only thing that the rogers fights can tell,is how each one of them gets around when put in front of a big guy that has fighting qualities of bret rogers.fedor struggled that night,overeem destroyed him.so,if they,sometime in the future,fight a JDS for example,you can say that overeem would have a better chance,based on his fight with an solid puncher with good reach.and that wouldn't mean shit,probably.

if overeem beats fedor,it sure as hell is not going to be because he dominated rogers,and fedor just KO'd him.

So based on your evidence, both Rogers and Fedor fought Arlovski, Rogers dominated Arlovski, Fedor struggled and nearly lost to Arlovski



What is your "evidence" telling you then?



Transitivity does not apply to MMA, it is just a way to oversimplify things.

Yeah, it does apply to MMA. You're confusing evidence, with prediction or fact. And, I don't know what fight you were watching where Fedor struggled. He blasted Arlovski with the first punch.

Rogers won in 22 seconds, without being hit once, and Fedor did in 3:14, and he definitely had a harder time than Rogers did, or am I wrong?



No man, you are just trying to hold on to your arguments on simplification.



Fedor himself said that his toughest fights were with Crocop, Nogueira and Arlovski, in an interview with Bas Rutten, look it up on youtube.

They both smashed Arlovski effortlessly, according to any objective perspective. There is little be learned from two short fights with only a couple strikes thrown. Fedor waited longer to land his, that's the only difference. But you're right, Fedor did have a more difficult time. Just like he had a more difficult time against Rogers. You're just supporting my argument.

No, I am not supporting it. Your argument is actually implying that Overeem will beat Fedor just because Fedor had a harder time with Rogers than Overeem did.



But then again, I respect people that can agree or disagree with our thoughts/opinions, but they remain respectful in the discussions.

"Your argument is actually implying that Overeem will beat Fedor"



I didn't say that. But yes it is evidence that the odds are in Alistair's favor. Rogers blasting Arlovski so much more decisively and quickly than Fedor did, is more evidence.

It's all about matchups. Thats it.

Then I guess match-makers should pretend that a fighter's record is irrelevant. And, I guess that means that the crybabies were just kidding when they said Lesnar got a shot too soon. Because, all that's just MMA math. etc.

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Come on man we all know we all know wins count and that's why winners move up and get better fights. But... its all going to depend on the matchup as to who wins. And yes I do believe Brock got a title shot to quick especially since one of his fights was a loss. Frankie worked his way up and beat BJ. Why couldn't Brock climb the ladder? If Frankie fought BJ after his first couple of fights, he might have won so why didn't he get the fast track? Brock got the shot because of business. No I'm not saying he shouldn't have taken advantage of his chance or he doesn't deserve to be champ. What's done is done and he is the champ but he didn't deservethe shot at that particular time.

Well thank you m1 for screwing up fedors career

We shouldnt be thankful

Hence my sarcasm...

Fedor quickly becoming another old legend.

He won't be "old" until he fights in the UFC. They all coincidentally become suddenly old.

yea, but 1/2 the Pride fighters were used up when it ended. I'm amazed Big Nog is still in there getting his head ripped off.

To this day, I still wish Hendo would have won the belt when he came over from Pride, things would have been very different today.

IMHO, they appear to have been used up, because they drop off performance wise when they step up in competition. People make that excuse for Fedor (not saying that you are), that he's old and out of his prime. He's the same age as Lesnar, and he's younger than Shane.



Then the obsessed ones suggest that Fedor has taken more damage to his body over the years. Which isn't true either, Lesnar was destroying his body more severely ever single night when he was in retard-wrestling, than Fedor has endured over his entire career. It's part of the reason all those WWF guys juice, because they're always hurt doing that stupid crap, and roids turbo-charge the healing process.

What cracks me up is Fedor's build. You look at Lesnar and say, yea I can see that easily...then you look at Fedor and his old fights 10 years ago and say, holy crap, look at that dumpy guy killing people lmao.

Oh, I completely agree. They're both freaks. The most impressive thing about Fedor, to me, is that he's one of the most dominant HW's ever, and he's not a HW. He's pudgy and soft. It makes what he's done more impressive, and it's the one reason he should be considered on the P4P ranking.

Both I consider freaks of nature just on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Fedor is saving face Overeem called him out Fedor didnt respond Overeem wanted to fight so he's fighting in k1 now Fedor saying that Overeem don't want to fight... poor excuse

Overeem chalenged fedor before the fight against Werdum, he knew that fedor is busy

HAHAHA what was fedor busy with??? who was he fighting???

werdum

He keeps finding excuses? I am pretty sure its been the K-1 Final from the time Fedor finally stepped up...



@Ston3pony... Overeem did not "refuse" to defend the SF title. They had no potential HW challengers at the time.

That's only true JS if Alistair was the only HW in SF. They're all potential challengers. There might not have been any worthy challengers, but that's different. The number one contender is still the number one contender. But I do get your point.



It says a lot about SF doesn't it? It says a lot about the organization that Fedor decided to join, and the level of competition that he was seeking.

I can agree with that.

Fedor does as he is told. M1 have their own aspirations and use Fedor to drive it. Although i used to think it was just M1 that was the problem, after this Overeem is ducking me bull he;s coming out with proves to me Fedor is not the man people think he is. The evidence is there for all to see yet people still buy this crap from him tut tut tut.

Doesn't make sense. There is no M-1 without Fedor. He doesn't need them to exist, they need him to exist. He has all the leverage. Without M-1, Fedor would still have his career, without Fedor, what's M-1?

your right but remember the whole Mafia thing with M1 is probably true. The reason why i say this simple. If you were a fighter and your management were hindering your ability to fight the best because they wanted to profit through co promotion or co branding what would you do. this is essentially what M1 are doing to Fedor they hinder his ability to compete and the highest level consistently.

I don`t get how Overeem is finding "excuses" to not fight Fedor. He always said he wanted to. But Overeem has always fought in diferent organisations at the same time and now there is the K1Final. Of cause thats more important than a fight against Fedor. He wanted to challange him after fedors fight against werdum. But things turned out different than everybody expected. I like Fedor, but that`s stupid.

Fedor should have stepped up a long time ago.

I think his plans and Finklefart's plans backfired on them in the long run.

Agreed. They thought they could skate in StrikeForce and coast to an undefeated record and then Fedor could go on to politics.



They f'd up bad when they turned down that epic UFC contract. They know it, which is why right after Fedor lost, he made a statement about how he would be willing to go to the UFC, for the same contract he was offered previously.



Which, is another one of his "I want to fight the best, but here's why I won't" stories. He demands what he knows cannot be offered, that way he can pretend like he was interested at all. He knew perfectly well that he would never get that contract offer, ever again, from any organization. So, that was his demand, what he knew would be rejected.

Hang on. When Fedor was in Pride it was THE premier tournament, esp for heavyweight. Then he went to Affliction, which had a much better roster of heavyweights, much better than UFC. The only Q-mark against him is signing for strikeforce instead of UFC recently, and only a fool would question Fedor's courage when you look at his resume. I guess some of you on here on started watching MMA after Brock Lesnar joined, which proves that many UFC fans are actually WWE fans.

Yeah, washed up Tim Silvia, washed up Arlovski... Scary... I'll be impressed when the excuses have run out and he's fighting the best competition.

TUT TUT. Use your brain here dude. M1 ask the UFC for co promotion knowing it won't happen. Fedor looses to Werdum and his management publicly state they only want Werdum. At this time Overeem tell Strikeforce get me a fight or i'm fighting in K1. Overeem then decides he doing K1. M1 publicly state they want a fight in Japan then Fedor will have his contracted fight with Strikeforce. the next day Fedor call out Overeem knowing he's fighting in K1.and now has the cheek to say Overeem is ducking him. and 1 last thing are Strikeforce seriously supposed to let the HW champ fight someone who has 1 fight left on their contract LOL if you can't see the pattern with M1 and Fedor your either stupid or a D*** Rider

I hear what you are saying it is a cycle in your opinion. I can see the balancing act you are talking about. On another note M1 may be hoping Fedor can take the belt in this matchup and then leave as champ they only have 1 fight left in contract as well now. It would discredit the strikeforce heavy division to have the real champ elsewhere and boost M1. Maybe Fedor waiting until someone else beats Overeem and will then pick his timing to be fighting a guy he matches well with and claim he was after the belt all along no matter who had it. I am just thinking out loud now. I have to say, I am concerned with the way things have gone lately with the M1 crowd and their timing, it's fishy.

Buddy, why don't you sit out a few plays. You really don't have anything of value to contribute.

Silvia and Arlovski may not be top 10 right now but they are still dangerous if you do not take them seriously. I wouldn't assume that the UFC's heavyweights run through them. Arlovski made a mistake and had a bad fight against Rogers, who I bet catches and KO's his fair share of fighters in the UFC (from rookies to vets) more than he gets beaten.



As for best competition. I'm not sure which organization would win the most fights if there was a head to head competition between the heavy weights of UFC vs the heavy weights of Strikeforce right now. There are some really good match-ups top to bottom. Fedor has some serious fights ahead of him in either organization.

Right from the announcement I thought Arlovski would be a very bad matchup for Fedor to take, He is a much more technical striker who has KO power and good subs. But he got caught.

When someone mentions the competition in Pride at that time, no argues that point. Why is that? Because they can't argue against it. People will find any reason in the world to discredit Fedor but it is hard to argue the fact that Pride had better heavyweights at the time.

What's hard to argue jnegro is the fact that were even able to make the cut. And of those, practically all have been mediocre gate-keepers. There are a few exceptions, out of an entire league that was supposed to have the superior fighters?



It doesn't add up.

"is the fact that were even able to make the cut"



The fact that only a few, were able to make the cut.

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I will agree that it has been hit or miss with a lot of fighters from Pride. YES a lot of them were on steroids. Some have done well though and many from Pride have held the belt.

It just doesn't seem like those two will ever fight each other IMO.

Overeem is the champ. Fedor just lost. Of coarse Overeem doesn't want to fight him. He should want to fight Werdum.



If Strikeforce wants any legitimacy, they can't have their HW champ defend against a guy coming off a loss twice in a row.

who cares!!!! not me!!!!!!!!!

I think we need to start looking at things with Fedor and M-1 differently. People keep defending Fedor by saying things like 'Fedor is just doing what he is told to do,' or 'it is in Fedor's best interest to stay in Strikeforce for M-1's sake.' If we compare Fedor to other people that just 'follow orders,' then what we have sometimes is a man that lacks integrity. We have the military personnel that bomb an area to kill a wanted target only to kill hundreds of civilians. We have the people that will do plenty of horrible and stupid things when they act like they are forced to by an 'authority.'



I'm sick of it. I refuse to believe that Fedor has no control over himself. He is a legend of the sport, and a great fighter, but he needs to grow a pair.

when was the last time you stepped into a ring against a 400lb opponent?



hmmm, thought not. maybe you should concentrate growing some ****ing pubes and stop focusing on Fedor growing a pair. I bet you never boxed, or had a proper fight. you sit at ya keyboard spouting dribble even Kos and Sonnen wouldnt use trying to feel important. But this is MMA. Every single fighter has balls in case you hadnt noticed.

Oh boy...okay first of all I do train MMA and I have been following MMA for a pretty long time - just to clear that part up. As I said, I think Fedor is a great fighter, I have him at #3 p4p and #1 HW as we speak. Just because I don't fight 400 pounders doesn't mean that I can't criticize a fighter, regardless of how amazing a fighter is. That being said, I think that if he is going to talk about people making excuses, he should look in the mirror and think about how many times he has blamed his management for decisions that were supposedly made without his input. If he really worried about these things, he would do what HE thinks is best. Stop blaming management, stop blaming Overeem, or the UFC, or Dana White, or whatever. Step up to the plate and take control of things - we all know he could if he wanted to. Nothing less can be expected from the greatest fighter ever.

I have never heard him blame his management. I think thats what the fans do.

PS: Are you completely ignorant of how Dana White has publicly ridiculed fedor, or how he cost him his Tapout sponsorship rumoured to be nearly £1million? yet you expect him to forget all that and go chasing fighters that wouldn't go chasing him when he was #1 and sign his rights away to the same guy who does that to him? I am prety sure he is doing what he thinks is best. he dont care about you, he dont care about me, so I dunno why you spout off what you think he should do, as no one really gives a ****

Um, every fighter doesn't have balls. Thiago Tavares told Melvin Guillard's camp that they cancelled the fight with him twice because they feel its a bad matchup and Thiago is scared to fight him, which is why i have 0 respect for Thiago. There are cowards in every profession, its how they go about hiding it from the general public which is key.



Want another example? Rewind to TUF 5 with Jens and BJ and look at gabe rudiger...nuff said.

I don't think that Fedor is a coward - I just think he needs to start taking responsibility for himself instead of blaming everything on other people.

who has fedor blamed exactly? and for what has he blamed them?



fedor is accused repeatedly by pubescent ignorant fans of this that and t'other. he says he is the greatest, he blames his management, he ducks fights.



get over it. he is the greatest living heavyweight and one of MMA's finest. there may be some legit competition in UFC for him now, so what, they chose not to go where he is, so stop baming fedor blaming his management blaming dana White. Blame yourself for being such a gullible ignoramus

@ "azz" - "kika"



You're crying again? Its pretty easy to spot the guys who troll forums and argue all day long about Fedor and whatever else they hold near and dear to their hearts. When they say things like "pubescent" or if they pull the "WWE" card it makes it even that much more obvious. Just stop embarrassing yourself, Moots has intellectually dwarfed you with every single post since you began trying to bash him for having an opinion.

fedor should grow balls, fedor should stop blaming his management. Wow I am intellectually dwarfed here. I throw in the pubescent sarcasm since the replies are to childish views. anyone with a deeper analysis of what goes on knows this. I also support my opinions with fact.

I don't see what is embarrassing about correcting misguided juveniles. It actually undoes damage from hype and lies that the gullible masses so readily devour. How I am intellectually dwarfed you cannot say, as you, like Moot, spout opinions without any capability to support factual evidence. I was not bashing Moot for having an opinion, I was bashing the opinion itself regardless of who has it. there is a big difference.If you engage your brain before posting it would be obvious. I get weaked alot because I post stuff that sometimes cannot be argued against with much success. I'm not always right, there are more knowlegable folk than me, but judging by many opinions I have a better knowledge than the majority.

The facts of which you speak are readily available in your previous posts. Facts that are upheld as you continue to persist.

Yes, but where's the facts in yours? If you could understand basic english you would see that was a point i raised.

Sadly you continue to embarrass yourself. The only point raised on my behalf was your ignorance. As I said, the supporting facts of which you speak are readily available in your own posts.

Fedor is a very humble person and I like him a great deal. I suspect when we look back we will see that he is just past the apogee of his career and I am sad about that.

how come whenever you read an article about Fedor there is about a 1,000 comments below it??? my theory Fedor = White teenagers with glasses following his every move

Yup. dana blocked Couture from fighting Fedor. Guess Fedor must grow some balls and stop blaming his management lol.



Not being sarky towards you 66, you are old school MMA fan and I agree with most of your posts, but jeezs there's some numb nutz around.

who wants to fight FEDOR?